To be blunt….
Yeah, I knew that the President couldn’t make a speech last night that didn’t include a reference to the war in Iraq. And the Washington Post couldn’t mention his speech without a reference to his peace prize.
“To be blunt, we went down that road in Iraq,” Obama said, referring to the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that was done without United Nations approval. “Regime change there took eight years, thousands of American and Iraqi lives, and nearly $1 trillion. That is not something we can afford to repeat in Libya.”
Obama has sought to link American values with his foreign policy priorities throughout his presidency, and the arguments he laid out in his address Monday echoed those he made on “just war” when he accepted the Nobel Peace Prize in December 2009.
To be blunt, Obama doesn’t have to deal with Global Exchange shipping human shields to Libya. I don’t see any Congressmen standing on the roof of Gaddafi’s palaces telling the American viewing public how Gaddafi is more trustworthy than Obama. There’s no one accusing Obama of rushing to war. No one is taking at face value reports of Libyan civilian deaths, or mis-aimed bombs. Code Pink is “standing with” the Libyan people like they never did with the Iraqi people. No one is calling the three-nation coalition “anemic”. No one is complaining about Joe Biden being on vacation in Aspen, while the troops fight the war. No one is complaining about the president’s golf while the troops are engaged in Libya.
The public opinion deck, for some reason, isn’t stacked against the military action.
Category: Antiwar crowd, Barack Obama/Joe Biden
You sound like you’re getting awfully worked up over there AirVag69. But the 1st is just around the corner, so you can take that nice chunk of change courtesy of the taxpayer and head on down to the liquor store. That always evens you out, doesn’t it?
@#201 Jacobite: DIAMONDBACK has made a nice counterpoint too, don’t you think?
1AirCav69 Says I never went to any NCO school…either. Stick that one up your ass.
The fact that you brag about not having any NCO Professional Development is an indictment on you but it explains an awful lot though.
Jacobite, you should ask your wife about Tag Teams, I hear she’s an expert.
13 Months?! I knew you were a fucking Shake and Bake. Good job, high speed, I’m sure you were real proficient.
>). What you’re dealing with here is a “shape-shifter”, if nothing else.
Yep shifts to fit the argument, doesn’t the slippery little cuss?
>Ordinarily I’d ignore them, but I needed some comic relief and twirling the loons on occasion is fun.
I don’t know about you Jackie, but they make me feel better about myself–lol 😉
@ 206- “But the 1st is just around the corner, so you can take that nice chunk of change courtesy of the taxpayer and head on down to the liquor store. “
Oh boy! This cat is so *fOOking* good! What? Are you talking from personal experiences, fool?
WE’VE ALREADY BEEN OVER THIS. PRODUCE YOUR WOMEN, NOW. THIS IS MY FINAL WARNING.
@211 melle: Yes. A demon that takes whatever shape it wants. Lent would be a good time to call in an exorcist, don’t you agree?
>Lent would be a good time to call in an exorcist, don’t you agree?
I don’t know.. he sounds like one of those pea soup spitting demons…;)
YOU CAN’T EXORCISE ME. I CREATED YOU. I CREATED EVERYTHING. MAKE AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE IN 6 DAYS AS I HAVE AND YOU TOO CAN HAVE A SHAPE-SHIFTING DONG AND UNPARALLELED STRENGTH.
Yep PN, I’m liking DB’s style, lmao!!
@209, Tempting as it is to have a battle of the wits with you sonny I do have standards, battling one as unarmed as yourself is beneath me. On the other hand, exposing and clarifying your shortcomings is not, I consider it a public service, and an attempt at educating you. If I derive some measure of pleasure out of watching you make a fool out of yourself in response, so much the better.
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That didn’t come out nearly the way I wanted it to, but I think you got the drift, melle! 🙂
@ 218- CW’s proper ID is “sonny boy” not sonny…*blat*
Oh, come on, Cat IV, isn’t it a pretty day there in Music City? Not bright and sunshiney? Did you not get enough of mommy’s love this morning?
Well Streetsweeper if he was truly a boy he might have an excuse for his behavior. I don’t feel inclined to extend him the courtesy of that consideration. If he wishes to use ‘big people’ language I’ll treat him as a ‘big people’, though an admittedly immature one.
“Yep PN, I’m liking DB’s style, lmao!!”
DIAMONDBACK DOES NOT LIKE YOURS. REPENT LOSERS THE TIME OF YOUR JUDGEMENT IS NIGH. YOU WILL NOT BE RAPTURED OUT. LOOK ON MY WORKS YOU CRETINS AND DESPAIR.
Bwahahahaaa
or should I say…
Muahahahahaaa
Haven’t you twirled enough loons for one day??
Sphincter in #204: Excellent!! Bring your documentation, assmunch. I will be here, but I need to know which toy you want with your happy meal, the boys or girls toy? How do you know what I look like? I picture you as some pencil necked, pimple faced little bitch, otherwise you wouldn’t talk so tough, like you did before. Yeah, I still have the screen shot of what you said and I’m sure you can understand that the statute of limitations hasn’t run out on that one, yet. When we get closer to August, we will work out the details of where, exactly we will meet. I know I told you where, before, but I’m not sure you can remember that far back. If you don’t show, the readers of this fine blog will know it within the hour, so if you have any honor whatsoever, you will be here and you will bring your documentation. Remember what that is? Yeah, not just your 214, but your orders for duty assignments, promotions, awards, etc. If you really are who you say you are, then you should have no problem producing those items.
wow.
Good lord this thread went sideways…..Richter’s back…oh joy!!!
Look Richter…I’ve never once commented on one of your posts no matter how much I wanted to. I don’t know much about the era you served, and nothing about what you did…if anything. I figgured the youngins’ around here could handle that.
Now you stick your nose in my fight. I quote:
“The fact that you brag about not having any NCO Professional Development is an indictment on you but it explains an awful lot though.”
First off…it doesn’t make any sense. I think you left a word off.
I was bragging. When you’ve achieved in life what I have…you can brag to assholes that can’t even dream my life.
Second off…My 1st Sgt in the Cav had a CIB with 2 stars. I’m not going to explain that…if you’re confused, look it up. Let me tell you he never went to a NCO Professional Development course. It was called OJT back then. 3 Combat tours as a Paratrooper gives you some “NCO DEVELOPMENT”. In my day you could get promoted on something called “MERIT”. My classroom was Tay Ninh Provence. Now to someone with your obvious qualifications, learning how to be a good NCO in combat, doesn’t mean shit unless you went to some little school somewhere. I understand that. You probably play war games on your X-Box. But don’t ever jump into one of my conversations until you’ve eaten the same dirt as me. I’ve never written a fucking word to you…do me the same favor …..once you understand what I’m talking about, I’ll entertain any conversation you want. As long as you tell me that a classroom at Jackson is the same as the field, we have nothing to talk about. Deal?
In the mean time…my money’s on the Old Trooper. Prove me wrong tuff guy. You made need to take a couple of classes before you meet him. End of Life Development.
Honor and Courage
Richter, don’t listen to this douche. MERIT based promotions during Vietnam? Don’t make me laugh, you had junior NCOs turning over every week once their tours were done, it wasn’t MERIT that filled all those slots, it was Mathematics. How long was your 1SG in at that time AirVag, 23 years? Wow he was a pussy, you were three ranks and a lozenge beloew him in JUST 13 MONTHS!
Jeezus Jonn:
Why did you leave the gate open. All the slimers in the downwind end of the gene pool have oozed in here.
I’m Out.
Frankly, That’s a pretty harsh thing to say about AirVag, you should apologize. After all if he had stayed in, at his rate they would have had to make about 71 new ranks for him by the time he made his twenty.
@230 1AirCav69 …
Rah!!!
Got to keep this thread going. If we use enough bandwidth Jonn haveta call this a Pr0n site and charge folks $$.
To recap, we’ve witnessed ad hominems (usually as the opening salvo from a commenter who subsequently undermines his/her credibility).
And name calling. Nothing new there.
Chest thumps. I do know that in Viet Nam the shake&bake NCO academy took privates with high enough scores and turned them into sergeants. That was at Ton San Nhut (sp?) so the private/sergeant would have 6-12 months of service on a 2 year hitch. 13 months, 2.5 years, that’s all pretty good. Having been neither a sergeant nor an NCO I know 13 months is an accomplishment, while 2.5 years is nothing to sneeze at if it can be proven.
Can’t forget the ALL CAPS. Very strong feeling there. One can almost hear the tweaker yelling. Easy on the caps lock. It’s a keyboard, not a bullhorn.
To be blunt, we did go down a road in 2003. We started down that road on September 11th, 2001. Right now, the road we’re going down is lead by a President who says one thing, and does the opposite. Not just this one time, not just for certain things – every time in every category (war, diplomacy, economy, society).
His track record in this foible is so set in concrete you can bet large sums of cash on the outcome and win every time. BTW, you’ll need those large sums soon enough to pay for staples like bread and water. I’d be pretty concerned if he comes out and says he categorically rules out nuclear war.
I’d be pretty concerned if he comes out and says he categorically rules out nuclear war.
He already has–go back to some of his commercials during the 2008 primaries.
AirCav in #230: That’s how Sphincter got into it with me. He came on a thread and starting running his cockholster without me saying a damn thing to him. He hadn’t even been in the conversation with anyone, before that, but came on that one thread and called me out by name. That’s the way the little bitch works. Starts a fight without knowing anything about who he’s talking to. Now, just as Houser did, you have CW trying to back him up. Perhaps they want some “alone time”?
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