Media Matters won’t admit that terrorists are Muslims
In a weak attempt to pile on Bill O’Reilly along with Whoopie Goldberg and Joy Behar, who walked off the set of The View yesterday, Media Matters puts up a video from this morning’s Fox and Friends in which Brian Kilmead says “not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims”.
Of course the gutless Media Matters posts the video without comment and leaves it to their fans;
by rikntx (3 hours and 2 minutes ago)
Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim???
by shelby73 (3 hours and 2 minutes ago)
I didn’t know Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim!
by Grimdogg (2 hours and 41 minutes ago)
So abortion clinic bombers, Timothy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Andrew Kehoe, the McNamara Brothers, Ted Kacynski, Terry Nichols, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, James W. VonBrunn, Andrew Stack III, and Seung-Hui Cho were all really Muslims in disguise. Faux News’ hypocrisy knows no bounds.
This is so tiring – the Left has such a intellectually vacant knee-jerk reaction to anyone who happens to mention that some Muslims are terrorists that they drag out all manner of criminals who would have been just that ten years ago so they can make themselves feel better about defending Muslims from any hint that we’re fighting some Muslims because of what some other Muslims did.
We all know what Kilmeade was saying – all of the organized terrorist organizations with whom we’re at war are Muslim. With the exception of McVeigh and Terry Nichols, all of the criminals on “Grimdogg’s” list were acting alone without an organization…but al Qaeda is an organization with the stated purpose of terrorizing Americans to change our political system.
I won’t admit that we’re at war with all of Islam, but if the Left can’t admit that the terrorists who we’re fighting are Muslims, they can’t qualify to join in this discussion.
Category: Liberals suck, Terror War
Jonn, I have to agree with the left here. Yes, the organizeed are primarily muslim, but you don’t have to be organized to be a threat. If he had said 99% were, that’s a different story. We don’t appreciate the broad brush strokes they use to lump us with Racists, Bigots, the few nutty tea party members etc, we shouldn’t do the same to other classifiable groups.
VTWoody — I don’t think you’re agreeing with the Left. Keep in mind that the Left believes that no Muslims are terrorists. Recall the Left’s movement to make sure no one says “Islamic terrorist” or “Islamic terrorism”. The Left truly believes that the people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam aren’t real Muslims, but are “hijacking a religion”.
Also, recall how the Left deals with terrorism.
If a lunatic kills his wife in a domestic dispute, and it’s later found that he listened to Rush Limbaugh, voted Republican and owned a Bible, the Left considers the murderer to be a right-wing Christian driven to kill his wife by Limbaugh, Boooosh and in the name of Christianity. And then they warn of the possibility of all listeners of Limbaugh to be threats like this and all supporters of Boooosh to be threats like this and all Christians to be radicals just waiting to kill their spouses like this.
But, if a person claiming to be a Muslim, reciting Islamic scripture blows hundreds of people to kingdom come and is later found to have met with a radical Imam in a local mosque for months prior to the attack, the Left claims that they can’t for the life of them figure out a motive for the attack. And, they make sure to say that no Muslims are a threat, that terrorism isn’t being considered and also, despite the fact that they insist no Muslims are involved, they are increasing safety for Mosques, because of the major threat of anti-Muslim backlash by all the radicals who are stupid enough to think this was a Muslim terrorist attack.
Remember, the Left didn’t blame Islam or Muslims for the terrorist attacks of 9/11 — or the USS Cole, or the embassy bombings in the 1990s or the first attack on the WTC, etc — they blamed America, specifically ‘neo-cons’, Christians and Republicans.
I’d have to see the complete video from The View to comment on that event. I saw only a small edited part and it was after everyone started yelling.
Well, WE may not be at war with Islam, but Islam is mosrt certainly at war with us.
Islam has been at war with everything NOT Islam for 14 centuries, give or take.
The cases of the vapors and self-righteous snits that leftists get into over the issue are becoming tiresome and boorish. If Islam had it’s way EVERYONE would be living under sharia law and all our freedoms, our books, our churches, our music, everything we hold dear, would be gone.
Regarding the list posted by Grimdogg, I don’t recall a single one of them committing the evil acts they did in the name of their wanting to establish a world-wide papal state or other ‘christian’ kingdom.
“The cases of the vapors and self-righteous snits” is priceless, Tim. And, those on the left are totally ignorant of history, and seem hell-bent on repeating it. I guess they never heard of the Islamic imperialism.
I dunno. Not all muslims are terrorists. Some of them are dead.
There are the very far fringes on the left and the right who will resort to violence to further their political agenda, and by that definition, there are many non-muslim terrorists.
What the left claims is that except for the very far fringes, muslims by and large are not terrorists. I’d have to agree, based on my own sampling (in Iraq) the Majority were “Easter and Christmas” muslims. They did their ass to the west five times a day, kept Halal (which is really Kosher) and went to mosque on friday occasionally. They used religion as a way to further empower themselves in the tribal culture, but other than that were not very religious.
Now, the ones who do attack us in the name of Allah, some are true believers, others use religion as a means to an end–see Iran, Ahmadinnerjacket; PLO, Arafat; and Iraq, Saddam Hussein, for further examples. But we are not limited in our scope to muslims as all being terrorists, per se, or muslims being the ONLY terrorists. Not all muslims are terrorists, not all terrorists are muslim, but the chances of someone being muslim and a terrorist are greater than any other combination.
“Well, WE may not be at war with Islam, but Islam is most certainly at war with us.
Islam has been at war with everything NOT Islam for 14 centuries, give or take.”
THIS.
“And, those on the left are totally ignorant of history, and seem hell-bent on repeating it. I guess they never heard of the Islamic imperialism.”
They also don’t seem to realize that the Christian Crusades were wars of defense against said Islamic imperialism.
It’s also interesting that the time in world history called “The Dark Ages” coincides with the fall of Rome and the hundreds of years of said Islamic imperialism and ended with the start of the Crusades. With the Left trying to usher in the fall of America and capitulating to all the wishes of Islam, I don’t think it’s Sharron Angle that’s going to “send us back to the Dark Ages” (as Joe claims), but rather Muslims that will do so, courtesy of the assistance of the Left.
“There are the very far fringes on the left and the right who will resort to violence to further their political agenda…”
Serious question. I’ve heard people say there exist “far fringes on the right who will resort to violence”, but I know of now “far right fringe” terrorist groups. Other than maybe anti-government militias, I don’t think I can even count on one hand the number of “far right fringe” terrorist groups.
Even the KKK was an arm of the Democrat Party back then. And just to bring up a “Christian” group as “right-wing” isn’t always the case. There are plenty of “Christians” who support the AGW lie and the terrorism committed in the name of “saving the planet”. There are also plenty of “Christians” who support illegal immigration (which is a left-wing issue).
Ironically, one could argue that Islam is “radical right wing” (since they take arguably conservative views and take them to radical extremes), yet it’s the Left who supports Islam, not the right. Ironic that the Left supports “radical right wing” Islam (where women are brutally oppressed and homosexuals are murdered), but believes moderate Christianity (no oppression of women and the homosexuals are welcomed, but simply denied the right to redefine marriage to suit their lifestyle) to be a radical threat to humanity.
Really, any religion can create saints…..or terrorists, and most have. It’s not about Islam vs Christianity, it’s about rationality and empiricism vs irrationality and fantasy. But try telling that to someone….
I watched an interesting podcast this afternoon. It was something put out by the Reason.tv folks, and it talked about this Washington Post cartoon that was recently cancelled because it said “Where’s Muhammed?” and yet featured his image nowhere on the page.
The point a commentator made is that the liberal newspapers can’t have it both ways. They can’t call anyone who acknowledges muslim terrorism an “islamophobe” while refusing to run a cartoon because they’re afraid of nutjob muslims “stabbing them in a Starbucks.”
That is some of the best commentary I’ve seen so far. The left wants to label anyone who explicitly acknowledges muslim terrorism as a xenophobe, all while they tacitly acknowledge muslim terrorism by bowing to their threats of violence.
Kilmead is a moron. I learned a long time ago that qualifications like many, most, and all are ill advised. He should know better as someone who talks for a living. That said, there is a lot of hypocrisy people aren’t willing to own up to when it comes to relations with the “religion of peace.”
The left wants to label anyone who explicitly acknowledges muslim terrorism as a xenophobe, all while they tacitly acknowledge muslim terrorism by bowing to their threats of violence.
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Not only that, but it also puts the lie to the moral equivalence claim that “all religions have their extremists”. You don’t see the MF-ing media or Hollywood — or anyone — censor themselves for any other religion out of fear of violence (or their BS claim they don’t want to offend them). The Left will gleefully insult, ridicule, mock and smear every religion on the planet. And if any member of those religions claims to be offended and complains, they are told to STFU and get over it.
But, the Left does nothing of the sort when it comes to Islam.
So it is obvious that they know no other religion has any extremists they need to fear. It’s only Islam about which they have to worry.
Casey, re: post #3:
Also, keep in mind that “muslim” and “Islam” is not a race, anymore than Catholic or Protestant is a race.
Mike in MI (#2):
I cannot start to comprehend how any religious group (e.g. ALL CHRISTians)could possibly consider another religions sacred writings (e.g. The KORAN) to be held in any way, shape or form to be considered, even in part, to be held invalid by it’s own
professed ‘believers’. How could a person consider something ‘true’ and ‘not true’ at the same time in a religious context?
The way I look at it- you either believe it or you don’t.
Further, how is it that this apparently group of idiots called ‘Lefts’ have such incredible solidarity, unity and cohesion that they all share the same opinion!!? I’m not that old, and out of touch am I!? I’m only 56!! It is also apparent from your comment that the Left has become what we used to call Right and I have to surmise that the Right has become the Left!! What HAPPENED??
If you respond to this post – please, be gentle: If what I just said is true…I personally don’t think I could muster the courage to ever vote again.
I wish more people would call out leftists when they try to use McVeigh as an example of Christian terrorist. He was an Atheist for fucks sake. I don’t say that to try and tie Atheists to terrorism or anything, but I hear so many talking head leftists throw his name around in an inaccurate way when they want to equivocate. It’s just as stupid as when they try to say that Hitler was a Christian.
“Also, recall how the Left deals with terrorism. . . . “
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In case anyone thought I was not being serious with my explanation of how the Left denies any link between Islam and terrorism, here is Exhibit A: Clueless NY Times on Ft. Hood Killer: “The Gunman & His Motive Remain an Enigma”