Kokesh, World Nut Daily, and other lunatics

| February 26, 2010

A while ago I started a post on this, but got the shit beat out of me on the birther thing so never finished it, but I will start again, because now we have a Kokesh tie-in. It started with this utterly absurd World Nut Daily article:

Responding to an executive order by President Obama, a new push is under way for states to adopt laws limiting the use of their National Guard units unless there is an invasion, insurrection or other limited circumstance.

As WND reported, Obama’s order establishes a new “Council of Governors” designated to advise on the “synchronization and integration of state and federal military activities in the United States.”

The recent order, posted on the White House website, was accompanied by the explanation that the group is to work “to protect our nation against all types of hazards.” It comes just weeks after the president issued a similarly obscure order vastly expanding INTERPOL’s privileges in the U.S.

Then it goes completely off the flat Earth:

However, there was no definition of the group’s authority. Can the council recommend “military activities” and can the governors, who already are in command of their own state guard units, mandate activities outside of their areas of jurisdiction? The White House did not respond to WND questions on the issue.

Holy shit! The Muslim Commander in Chief from Kenya is installing a puppet shadow government to take over the National Guard! Read a book people! Help us Ron Paul, you are our only hope!!!11!!!

Let me take a stab in the dark here WND. Yes, they can recommend that. They can also recommend starting James Branum at Center instead of Yao Ming. They can recommend whatever the hell they want, doesn’t become legally binding. Can they “Mandate” anything, no. Pretty simple, how about reading the effing Executive Order instead of just making shit up?

They didn’t respond to your questions, because they are idiotic. Oh, and it isn’t Obama doing this you fucktards, they are only doing what Congress told them to do, in the FY 2008 National Defense Authorization Act, section 1822.

It isn’t an “obscure order” it is something demanded by law. How can you demand following the law, and then when he does it you accuse him of using “obscure orders” to effectuate his totalitarian takeover of our country.

I really hate these idiotic conspiracy theories and the people pushing them. Jermoe Corsi in particular is out of his mind. How many horror stories have I had to respond to about the North American Union and other such nonsense. “Did you know that the Mexicans are seizing control of St Louis and a huge highway blah blah blah toss my salad….” Enough already, it is stupid.

Anyway, who is the group created to fight against this incursion? Well, a group called the 10th Amendment Center. For the record, I am as big a supporter in the 10th Amendment as anyone. Frankly, my response to questions regarding Abortion, Gay marriage and other issues is “Let the states decide.” So I don’t take a back seat on State’s Rights to anyone, but pushing this kind of crap just gets folks worked up, and they don’t understand the subject enough not to act like imbeciles. WND should know better.

And who is working with the Tenth Amendment Center? Who is attending their function today? Our own Piss Bottle Collector Extra-Ordinaire: Adam Kokesh.

UPDATE: You want some hyperbole? I challenge you to top this one:

Breaking News – Obama Signs Martial Law Executive Order

It looks as though President Obama today has taken his first step towards martial law in America. I just pulled this piece off the wires which indicates the issuance of his new executive order. This order sets up the framework for the use of federal troops and the combination of state and federal agencies under the Defense Department. This is startling news for many reasons. Why now? Why now?

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Go easy on WND. You have no idea how hard it is to type while waving your arms over your head….

“Why now? Why now?”

And he cried like Nancy Kerrigan.

ponsdorf

I dunno, WND has pretty lengthy history of doing this sort of thing.

Their take on the SPP/NAU thing would be a case on point.

I must admit I liked Corsi the time or two we’ve met, but I’ll also admit I’ve stopped reading him as a source.

WND, Wikipedia, et al, must be read through a filter of sorts, I think.

I’ve prepared a lengthier reply at my place.

UpNorth

You guys really need to post alerts, especially for those of us who read this at mealtimes. BNG, the Nancy Kerrigan reference was great, as was the Flat Earth reference, TSO.
I’d stay longer but I think I just saw a black helicopter landing a squad of mutant ninja tax collectors out back. “Why now?”

OldTrooper

TSO, I take offense to this. Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after me!!!

Try to be a little more sensitive next time.

Susan

Totally off subject – and probably in poor taste, but when has that stopped me – do you wonder if after the Kerrigan family tragedy Tonya Harding yelled “whose white trash now” at the tv screen?

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justplainjason

I hate conspiracy theorists like this. They assume that soldiers are just going to carry out martial law without question. The first loyalty is to the constitution.

Former ET2

Yeah yeah here you go being all logical an shit. Next you’ll tell me my tinfoil does nothing against the mind control rays.

Former ET2

I’ll bet you don’t believe tinfoil will stop the mind contral rays either

Former ET2

Hell better double up the foil they made me post twice!!!

OldTrooper

ET2: It depends on which brand of tinfoil we are talking about. Some shield better than others. It does work best if you have a charge wick to bleed all the rays off, kind of like a farady cage.

I’m just sayin.

don

Yeah, WND sucks, although I’m tempted to give them a pass just for going after Obama on a daily basis. I know it’s wrong, but it works. The Dems let their nut fringe go crazy and demonize Bush and Cheney and you know what? It worked. Hell, the Dems had their nut fringe (Michael Moore, Code Pink, etc) up on stage with them, and Obama had a left wing nut as his “spiritual advisor”.

So I agree WND is a classic paranoid right-wing nutter site, I just can’t work up the same outrage after watching the Left go nuts for 8 years.

A practical argument is that the Left can get away with it and the Right, because the MSM will give the Left’s nuts a pass and crucify the Right for their nutters. Perhaps, but the left’s ability to control the media narrative is lower than it’s been for decades.

ponsdorf

It’s not really hyperbole when it’s The Truth – is it?

You’d probably call it hyperbole when I tell you that aliens abducted me last night… and all they wanted was to ask me about TSO. No probes nor nothin’, just tell us about this TSO guy. They are watching you. Seems you’ve reached some level on Wow that they use as a benchmark.

What they have planned for you is disgusting.

They returned me to my bed untouched, but you won’t be so lucky.

I’m glad I’ve never played WoW, and I’m glad I’m not you!

Former ET2

Of course the aliens are watching him ponsdorf. They can’t figure out how he got a hot babe to marry him either.

ponsdorf

Former ET2 said:Of course the aliens are watching him ponsdorf. They can’t figure out how he got a hot babe to marry him either.

Ah yes… I have a newly retrieved memory that supports your notion.

Something about beauty and the nerd. It seems nerds are a threat to them. TSO is such an anomaly they need to study him.

In detail… ominous music echoes.

Scrapiron

Not out of the question since some local reserve/guard troops stated they had been to riot training and were to use the training against the Tea Party riots (since when has one been violent) in D.C. this spring. Look for O’Dumbo’s jackboots to start a riot and blame the Tea Party people. I say the last shot out of your guns before they take them should be through a politicians head. If all gun owners participate that should result in a total new group of criminals, that is politicians.

Cedo Alteram

Great site guys, long time reader, first post. As regards to Worldnetdaily, I stopped visiting them on a semi regular basis sometime in the 90s. If I’m not mistaken Isn’t Farah one of the Primary Ringmasters pushing this whole birther baloney? Isn’t he the one Bret Bart(right thats his name right?) had a confrontation with, over Birtherism?

As regard to Corsi, I think TSO your being unfair. I’m not an expert on the man, and can’t comment on everything he might or might not have said, but he did coauthor the swiftboat for truth book with O’neil. That counts for something. The idea of a North America Union is NOT a myth, modeled after the EU. Vincente Fox admitted this himself on Larry King, a common currency would be the start.

Kokesh is still an ass.

Yes Bush was the one at the end of his second term who authorised a brigade for Homeland security duty. Completely agree with you, people are over reacting. Could go on, but I think I’ve stepped on your cape to much already. Must sleep…

Regards, Cedo

Cedo Alteram

“Its one thing to suggest that the countries are trying to form an economic zone of tariffs etc.”- They have its called Nafta. They’re thinking far beyond that. Again the idea of one currency for the US/Mexico/Canada has been floating around for a decade or so. Fox admitted this.

This stupidy has been bipartisan between Democrats and Republicans in offics.

On the left the Transnational progressives(like Madeline Albright and the socialists in power in Europe), who have supplanted the older radicals(though they still exist). They generally believe in folding or “Transforming” the tradional nation states into larger transnational institutions or bodies(Eu, UN, ICCC, etc) alla Star Trek. Its an incredibly naive vision of the future and how the world works. Our very liberty is threated by such a scheme if it is ever successfully implemented. If the price of world peace is sacrificing the US, I would not be willing to pay it.

Idiots on the right(Ex Wall street journal, Cato institute, McCain, & Bush) tend to do this because they believe that goods and labor(foreign legal/illegal aliens) should move unhindered. The problem is markets don’t transform foreigners alone into Americans or good citizens. Only time, small managable numbers, and bathing them in our culture can do that.

Cedo

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