Daniel Penny: Good Samaritan, or overdone chokehold?

| November 3, 2024

Daniel Penny’s manslaughter trial got underway with both the prosecution and defense making statements. Prosecutors argued that Penny “went too far” and that he handled Jordan Neely as a threat than as a person. The defense argued that Penny only applied enough force that was needed to address a “seething, psychotic” man. The man had posed a threat to a woman with a small child. Neely’s condition at the time was such that law enforcement didn’t want to risk their officers giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

From AP News:

Penny’s critics see him as a white vigilante killer of a Black man who was behaving erratically and making dire statements but wasn’t armed and hadn’t assaulted or even touched anyone in the subway car. Supporters credit the 25-year-old Penny with taking action to protect frightened riders — action that he has said was meant to defuse, not kill.

Prosecutor Dafna Yoran told the anonymous jury that the trial isn’t “a referendum on our society’s failure to deal with mental illness and homelessness on the subway” or on police response. Nor is the case about whether Penny had a right to intervene or about his decision to try a chokehold, she said.

Rather, she said, “He used far too much force for far too long. He went way too far.”

She said he showed “indifference” toward Neely and “didn’t recognize his humanity.”

Not so, said defense lawyer Thomas Kenniff. He told jurors that Penny applied only as much force as needed to contain a “seething, psychotic” man who had lunged toward a woman with a small child and declared, “I will kill.”

“In that moment, Danny could look away and pray, or he could summon the courage to put the safety of his neighbors above that of himself, to protect those who could not protect themselves,” and he did the latter, Kenniff said.

“It doesn’t make him a hero. But it doesn’t make him a killer.”

Jurors, who were quizzed earlier about their subway experiences, later saw police body camera video of officers performing some lifesaving techniques on Neely after Penny calmly explained he had “put him out,” describing Neely as a “crackhead” who was “going crazy.”

The case has been absorbed into the United States’ fractious politics, with Republican officials speaking up for Penny and Democratic ones attending Neely’s funeral. Both supporters and critics of Penny have held demonstrations; Penny arrived at the courthouse Friday to critical chants from a small group of protesters.

Additional Reading: 

Peltz, J. (2024, November 1). Prosecutor says veteran’s subway chokehold went ‘too far.’ Dense says his ‘courage’ helped others. AP News. Link.

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KoB

Give Mr. Perry a medal and put him in charge of subway security.

Not the FIRST time that demonrats have worshiped a deservedly dead POS. Nut job got his just reward.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Give him a Sanitation Worker salary for taking out trash

FuzeVT

I don’t personally care if they can prove he choked that insane jerk-ball out. When the police aren’t allowed to do their job, then don’t get mad at citizens when they do it for themselves. What do you want the message to be?
Stop a violent lunatic on the subway that is threatening people and either:
A) you give they hero a medal for his trouble and get more heroes or
B) you punish that hero and you get more lunatics being violent.

Your decision will be made tomorrow, folks.

Lurker Curt

How long until the mostly peaceful protests start?

26Limabeans

Depends on Tuesdays election results.
Timing is everything and there is no such thing as coincidence.

SgtM

So Zoo York went and executed a squirrel and raccoon raised by humans. But are prosecuting a guy for accidentally killing a rabid crackhead threatening to kill people trapped on a subway car with him. Demoncrats being demoncrats.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Demonrats

5JC

They did bite people. I think the animals did too. Be that as it is I don’t see how he can be convicted of murder so this is a bunch of circus.

He might go down for whatever NY code has for negligent homicide but that would really depend on a lot of things.

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USMC Steve

It only takes one person on the jury that is not a knucklehead. But given the location, I am not sure there are any.

MarineDad61
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RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Flush

rgr769

According to what I read, the cops both found the nutjob with a pulse. The cops refused to do CPR on him because the were afraid he would throw up and infect them with something. Then it was fifteen more minutes before EMT’s arrived. So now we know why the DA won’t release the autopsy report and tox screen report. The guy died in the custody of the cops and EMT’s.

RGR 4-78

Prosecuting a barrel-chested freedom fighter because he protected the innocent.

My, my New York city, how far you have fallen.

Green Thumb

Superman weeps.

26Limabeans

Batman tosses his lunch.

Green Thumb

No money for cops so I see no social engagement teams around, either.

So that it up to us to step in.

Now that is going away as we will be charged, not the bad guy.

Great job, rotten apple.

JustALurkinAround

“Prosecutors argued that Penny “went too far” and that he handled Jordan Neely as a threat than as a person.”

This sentence reveals everything about the liberal / communist / watermelon mind-set.

Wireman611

When someone who is clearly showing violent attitudes makes a threat to kill somebody else, I’m going to believe them and act accordingly.

Buckeye Jim

Just like the morons who think some crazy person attacking with a weapon should be shot in the arm instead of center of mass. You know, just like they do on TV

Jimbojszz

Groin Shot, the double duty shot. Stops procreation of future bad guys and performs a sex change that liberals prefer.

2banana

Ain’t worth it. Let the thugs have fun. Especially with feminists on subways.

Hack Stone

How many times has the “poor victim of white racism” been arrested for assaulting passengers in the New York City transit system. He had a long and distinguished career of assault and battery with a catch and release policy of the New York Prosecutor’s office.

Hack Stone

A New York City police spokesperson told Newsweek that Neely’s record has 42 prior arrests, dating between 2013 and 2021. They include four for alleged assault, while others involved accusations of transit fraud and criminal trespass. At the time of his death, Neely had one active warrant for an alleged assault in connection with a 2021 incident.

But this time he would not have assaulted anyone. //S//

https://www.newsweek.com/jordan-neely-arrest-record-outrage-grows-subway-death-1798248#:~:text=A%20New%20York%20City%20police%20spokesperson%20told%20Newsweek,involved%20accusations%20of%20transit%20fraud%20and%20criminal%20trespass.

Army-Air Force Guy

Bet they won’t let that come up in Penny’s trial unfortunately.

Odie

Nor that he still had a pulse when the cops got there.

Animal

Unfortunately it’s not a defense to prosecution that the “victim” is a shitbird that society is better off without. Maybe when I rule the world I’ll make it so.

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STSC(SW/SS)

You voted for this NYC.

Reep what you have sown bitches.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

If Mr. Penny was the right color, he would have been released by the racist judge like cut him loose bruce the judge up in the bronx.

Hack Stone

At least in California, they are finally getting tough on violent home invaders. So from this point forward, will every violent home invader in California get life plus 30 years?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/paul-pelosi-hammer-attacker-gets-life-sentence-state-charges-serving-30-years-federal-trial

jeff LPH 3 63-66

If the home owner isn’t a demoRat politician, the home invader will most likely walk.

Skivvy Stacker

If I were standing in front of Ms Yoran with a gun screaming “I’m gonna kill you, bitch”, I think she’d probably see me as a threat rather than as a human being.

Prior Service (Ret)

“Sorry, ladies. You’re on your own. Good luck. I’ll just be sitting over here making sure the results of your self imposed nightmare stop before they hit me. Hopefully a liberal will man up and protect you.”

Tallywhagger

Excellent service, my kind’a guy, he did what needed doing and he did it well.

OTOH, you can always argue that it wasn’t his ground he was standing.

The heathen was still breathing when the PoPo arrived. They did not offer mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, with good reason, even a tiny amount fentanyl can kill you. They did offer narcan, reasonably presuming that drugs were involved.

I’d be pleased to ride with Daniel Penny in my car.

Anonymous

Left/libtard bureaucrats want to make an example out of Penny so people are afraid to defend theselves:
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Veritas Omnia Vincit

It would appear that NYC would prefer people to watch a lunatic criminal jerkoff harm someone rather than intercede on behalf of women and children.

I do not believe that’s quite the flex they think it is if I’m being honest.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

So an LEO uses the famous “I feared for my life” and shoots someone and that’s well within the department training practices and protocols and thus no charges…on a subway when you’re unarmed and some psycho with 42 priors for a variety of violent incidents advances and says he’s gonna kill someone so he can go back to prison you’re not able to use the same rules…interesting.

Keep telling us we’re all equal under the law though…that’s humorous…