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Police: Shooter ‘defended his dad’ in fatal Lumberton shooting Wednesday night
A 51-year-old Kirbyville man killed in the shooting outside the Papa John’s Pizza has now been named by police.
Author: Lupita Villarreal, Scott Eslinger
LUMBERTON, Texas — Lumberton Police are continuing to investigate a fatal Wednesday night shooting they say may have been a case of self-defense.Waylon Mark Palmore, 51, of Kirbyville, was killed in the shooting, Lumberton Police Chief Danny Sullins told 12News on Thursday.
The fatal shooting happened just before 8 p.m. outside the Papa John’s Pizza in the 200 block of Main St.
Palmore walked out of Papa John’s and got into an altercation with another customer that was about to enter the pizza shop according to Sullins.
Papa John’s employees told police that Palmore seemed agitated and may have been intoxicated when he picked up his order before the shooting Sullins said.
Police are awaiting blood test results that may take up to six weeks to find out.
Sullins said Palmore got very mad about something and walked out of the pizza shop before the shooting just outside the front door.
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That restricted video, the guy FAFO. I can’t wait for the inevitable Donut Operator breakdown video.
I’m a gun guy and carry quite often. I don’t get the criminal mentality that so often ends in loud noises, sudden incapacitation, and too often, permadeath. In other words, I carry to protect myself and family. I don’t want to use deadly, or even less-lethal, force, but am willing and able to. Arguing or attempting to fight someone is not a winning strategy. Armed robbery, followed by trying to outrun police, is something I’ll stick to doing in GTA V.
The mag dumping from the second that Grappler was deployed was impressive. Reduce or eliminate the threat. The officers need to go home to their families, and the suspect, well, again, he FAFO’d. You can see right at the 2:17 mark that the suspect was not going to be feeling too well after the shooting. His now-fatherless baby’s momma had some good selection of cover, though.
The very best fight is the one you can avoid if possible.
But we will protected ourselves, our loved ones, and the innocent when forced to do so.
Yeah, the FAFO perp really had no concept of overwhelming force, did he?
Well, he has eternity in Hell to contemplate his life choices.
Gotsta lub a double DRT FIRST (ht2 Tox) thing of a morning. ‘specially when its a result of some dumb asses that did the whole FAFO thing. A glass is raised to those that took out the trash.
If politicians didn’t have low morals, they’d have no morals at all.
Nice hawgleg you gots there, Mister. A very good example of why a certain caliber is preferred. “The gun that won the West.” Heh heh…according to Hollyweird its also the gun that won the Wagon Train fights across the plains prior to 1873, many battles during the WBTS, and even some of the gunfights for Texas Independence. Be nice if one of them would time travel forward and find itself at home with the Gun Bunny. There may and/or may not be a Uberti Outlaw Model in stainless steel version of .45 LC somewhere around here. CC does require the wearing of a duster.
Paladin’s was a custom built model for the TeeVee show. Matt Dillon’s was an original, 1891 IIRC.
Looking at a movie called ‘Arizona Bushwhackers” on Grit as I write this. Says it’s set in 1862 and every gun I have seen dates to 1873 or 1892. They all seem to hold at least 20 rounds, too.
Watching at it, meownself, David. Best part is Yvonne DeCarlo shore be looking HAWT! I watch a good bit on Grit.
20 rounds and the shooters are the ones that taught Empire Stormtroopers how to shoot.
Back in the 1940’s through the 1960’s, Hollywierd cared less about historical accuracy of the firearms used in their Westerns. There were several companies that rented firearms to the movie industry. Their inventory of wester/cowboy guns was limited to Model 1873 Colt SAA’s and the few clones available, plus 1892 Winchester rifles and carbines. When Western Costume Company sold off many of its firearms in the early 1990’s, they sold off pallets of Springfield trapdoor carbines and Winchester Model 1892 carbines. I was fortunate to find an actual trapdoor carbine in one of the pallets instead of a cut down rifle. But it looks like it has been abused in every episode of “F Troop.”
Indeed, all the westerns and “horse operas” of the 1950’s and 1960’s which are mostly timed in the 1870’s and 1880’s have actors armed with anachronistic Model 1892 saddle ring carbines. There are a few exceptions where one sees an 1873 Winchester, but they are rare.
Firearms historical inaccuracies still abound. In an episode of “1923” I saw Colt SAA clones with brass grip frames. No Colt production SAA was ever made with brass pistol grip frames. They were only found on the percussion revolvers. But most of the cheaper SAA clones have brass grip frames. It makes the guns about $75 cheaper than those with steel frames. But I can understand why the producers don’t want to rent or buy guns worth up to $3K to be thrown down off a horse into the dirt. So, the cheapest Italian clones rule the screens.
I’ve got a first-gen Ruger Vaquero, inherited from my FiL. Also have a .45 Colt 1894 carbine I got back from him after offering it as collateral for my now-quarter century old daughter’s third birthday part just before shipping for OSUT training at Benning. I bought it a couple of years earlier but losing my job on 9/10/2001 meant I had to do what I had to do to go to Chuck E. Cheese Hell. Besides that, I’ve got the original 1894-production Model 1892 in .38 WCF and a Rossi Rio Bravo (.22 LR) I bought after a coworker accidentally sent the wrong box out of the door (with my help as the third checker, having overlooked the labels with the serial numbers). After a couple of weeks of being told I needed to contact the customer, I just started a form for the other SKU and brought home the box with the gun. Most burn them or toss the cardboard out anyway, and there were no compliance issues, so I went with it.
Besides those, I’ve got my 1899-production Winchester 1897 Riot pump gun and a Stoeger Coach Gun. We just got one of those (12-gauge) in a few days ago, and we had both the .410 and 20-gauge ones come in earlier this year. Both of those look handy, but I think I’m in the market for a first-gen SAA to complement my other 1800’s cowboy guns. I think I have the modern stuff figured out between the Vaquero, ’94, and Coach Gun.
Damned shame a Georgia crackhead needed my .30-30 1894 and my (not-so-cowboy) S&W Model 19 almost 11 years ago, though. Also, it’s a shame that I can’t figure out how to get the restitution ordered by that court.
You are correct about Marshal Dillon’s Colt SAA. It had to have been manufactured before 1896 because that was the first year the SAA was made with the crosswise retaining screw for the cylinder base pin and the “bullseye” ejector rod was changed. Dillon’s pistol clearly has the earlier Black Powder Frame of the pistols made from 1873 to 1896. One can see the bullseye ejector rod head in the scenes where he pulls that pistola.