Camp Lejeune – One Marine Dead, Another in Custody
Last night there was a shooting on the Camp Lejeune base that resulted in one Marine being killed and another taken into custody in an apparent homicide.
One Marine dead, another in custody after ‘incident’ at Camp Lejeune Wednesday night
The base’s public affairs office said the “incident” happened Wednesday evening and the suspect, who is also a Marine, was taken into custody around 10:15 p.m.
Posted 19 OCT 2023 | By WRAL StaffOne marine is dead and a suspect is in custody Wednesday night at Camp Lejeune.
According to the base’s public affairs office, the “incident” occurred inside one of the barracks Wednesday evening. A specific time was not given.
Another marine was taken into custody around 10:15 for their suspected involvement in the death.
The base’s public affairs office said more details will be provided “as they become available.”
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Marine killed in homicide at Camp Lejeune; second Marine held for suspected involvement
Marine killed at Camp Lejeune; another Marine in custody
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Young’uns– hormones and alcohol are a potent mix.
Weapons in the barracks, alcohol, and junior Marines are deadly
Never a good thing. I had a few indirect experiences with barracks/housing shootings. In early 2003, I sold a .357 to a fellow Soldier with the understanding it was being kept off-post. I was in my off-post apartment when I got the call that everybody had to report in. A friend of mine had been shot, and I just got a feeling. Sure enough, my friend, the guy I’d sold the gun to, and a bunch of others were drinking in the barracks, and they decided to check out that cool-looking .357. Friend gets shot in the chest; fortunately a Medic was there and his training kicked in, so while the friend lost a lung and was medically discharged months later, he lived. Different Army back then, the guy I sold the gun to got demoted but seems to have gone on to a full career and eventually made at least E-7.
Having recently reported to TOG, I was in the Regimental Orientation Program when I heard about an off-post shooting. TOG Soldier drinking in his apartment, roommate knocks on the door telling him to turn down his music and gets shot through the door. He didn’t live.
As pro-2A as I am, and as much as I believe that Service Members should be permitted to carry in and out of uniform on post, I think that guns and barracks are a bad mix. A lot of different backgrounds mixed with Alpha-types who often party as hard as they train and who are prepared to go die for their country is not an environment where guns should be in the mix. The Rakkasan barracks in 2002 started having company CQs at each entrance after a couple of companies’ Soldiers let their rivalry get physical.
Accident or intentional, one Marine’s life is ended, while another will have to live with the consequences.
Yep, remember a similar circumstances in the Ranger barracks. A bunch of us privates, hanging out, drinking, watching movies…someone brings out a new gun (no it wasn’t properly stored in the Arms Room). Everyone doing the proper thing, when they get it (unloading it, checking it, clearing it). Someone goes the bathroom, comes back, picks it up (doesn’t clear it) starts pointing it everyone…everyone is dodging him and yelling at him it is loaded. He points it at someones forehead. Kid bravely says I dare you…everyone says “It is loaded…don’t”! He pulls the trigger.
Luckily, the kid turned his head, and the trigger had a good amount of creep. Gun went off…bullet ricocheted off the concrete corner and into the ceiling. Everyone said “shit”, grabbed the gun, cleared it, put it away, and then we opened the door to see if the CQ heard it…they didn’t.
Fuuuuuuuuuuk!
These anecdotes are small potatoes. Back in the 509th in Germany, we had some troopers that threw frag hand grenades into a dumpster from the second-floor windows of the barracks. They had pilfered the grenades from our division ammo dump at Budenheim when they were there on guard duty. The Lee Barracks in Mainz wasn’t known as “the Animal Farm” for nothing.
They’re not the ones who threw their CO into a wall locker and threw it off a building ? (in the 70s, I think—per my sergeant.)
Story I heard was they pushed it down the stairwell. Not sure which version I prefer
I was once a suspect when a case of frags became missing from our local ammo dump in Sandhofen, Germany. An interesting few days.
Gotta watch out for those magic bullets that suddenly appear in “unloaded” weapons. I have seen those magic bullets infect weapons from rifles to 106 mm RR. The 106 was particularly messy.
No longer my clowns, no longer my circus. Thank God.
“Nie moj cyrk, nie moje malpy”
Stealing this phrase. I like it better than not my toys not my sandbox.
Not my _____, not my _____:
monkeys, zoo
trough, pigs
library, drag queens?
illegally-funded level 4 biolab, genetically-modified cold virus with a 99.8% survival rate that was used to suspend human rights globally and a faithful election in the US of A*?
*all standard provisos apply. Past performance does not guaranty results or outcomes, use information at your own risk. If it tastes good it’s probably bad for you.
I’ll take the mix and match option, with drag queens first, and that wordy one second .
Not my drag queen, not my genetically-modified cold sore.
Lol
Sad news. Lives lost & ruined, and families devastated. I don’t want to make light of a tragic occurrence, but it was probably over a girl or money or both.
Very likely… I used to warn my Soldiers against letting any female determine their fate. Walk in on a cheating spouse; just walk back out. Have a friend try to steal your girl; toss the friend and/or girl aside. It’s not worth my freedom and certainly not my life. There will be other women if the need arises.
Same with money. You gotta earn it to spend it. You might have a hustle, legal or otherwise. You might bust your ass 60 hours a week, spend
1540+ hours a week teleworking, or serve in the military and feel underpaid and underappreciated, but that slightly used 2016 Dodge Charger at 28.75% APR isn’t going to pay for itself. It’s hard to make money when you’re dead, and it’s hard to plan a stable financial future in prison.I’ve disconnected from both family and friends for each of these reasons. My wife and I are somehow still tolerating each other after over 27 years, and each month I get a little stimulus to go along with my 40-hour/week paycheck. She’s been wanting a pool. If we get a pool guy next year and he’s suddenly working 40 hours/week here, well damn, nice knowing ya, take half the retirement and I’ll help out where I can otherwise. If I do something stupid and end up in jail for a few months, that disability is going away, I’m not working, and I’m going to be smelling man ass while staring at walls and contemplating my decisions. That half a retirement check will make me the Canteen King, but that’s not a title I want.
There will be other women if the need arises.
This is indeed the right approach, I discovered when my ex tossed me out of my home on the lake that fucking several of her “friends” was an amazing outlet for frustration over the events of that time…
The best part was a couple of those “friends” had been the ones advocating for my ex to end her relationship with me….
I have since had the good fortune to meet my current wife, and we are coming up on 22 years of married life.
Life does indeed go on and if you’re smart living well seems the best revenge of all.
“Life does indeed go on and if you’re smart living well seems the best revenge of all.”
Sure thing, use the Eminem “Guilty Conscience” philosophy if you want: “Shoot ’em both, Grady, where’s your gun at?” Guess what, they won. They’ve nothing to worry about, and you’re going to prison for a long time. Alternatively, you take your own life. She lives, she gets everything while pulling a victim card as a “grieving widow”. You have nothing to worry about, but damn, you worked your whole life for a burial plot. M/S (anyone can figure that out, don’t want to get too dark this early)? Everyone loses and wins, but family, friends, and even the lives of First Responders will be forever haunted.
Living well is a great “revenge” against everyone who’s made poor decisions and/or done you wrong in life. If only others would think long-term as opposed to seeking immediate gratification…
“Living well is a great “revenge” against everyone who’s made poor decisions and/or done you wrong in life.” Testify! The Gun Bunny has several exes that are still kicking themselves in the ass over what they had and threw away. And oddly enough, each one was doing what they (falsely) accused me of doing. Cheating. Their loss. My daughter and grand children will reap the benefits of paid for real estate, prime movers, and material possessions that I’ve acquired over the years. Having just recently updating my Will to ensure there are no claims made by any of the exes against my estate, Ms Thang my Lawer insisting I do an inventory list with a value placed, I now know how much it will do for the kids.
Damn shame we lost two (2) more Marines, no matter what the cause was. It’s getting to the point where we only have “…a few good men.”
“Living well is a great revenge”
Ask the former MRS D about that. When we split, I left her the paid-off house, her paid-off car, no bills other than the monthly utilities. I took my Jeeps, tools, and personal items. Wasn’t gonna fight over anything. After the divorce was final, she had the balls to complain about how hard it was on her, without my paycheck, retirement, and TRICARE.
Did I mention she’s a GS-12 step 10? Sympathy level zero.
When my ex and I split she was making more than me. Not so much anymore. I now have toys I only dreamed of when I wore a ring for 25 years.
When you are a 6\6\6 you will be drowning in tang as a single man my age. When you start turning them down it becomes obvious that life really goes on, often for the better.
She told me she was gonna take half my retirement. Her lawyer said “don’t even try it, that opens the door to him taking half of yours, and if he has half of his and half of yours, he gets a pay raise. Take what he’s offering”.
You are so right. 1st wife decided to leave me and the boys (ages 3 and 5) for a lower enlisted. Soon there after married my current wife. 24 years in March. She lives in a double wide and we have a very nice home in Northern Florida.
Don’t get a pool. In a few years, you will hate it, even with a pool service. The pool service dude is usually at your house for about five to ten minutes, tops. So, if he is there for more than ten minutes, he is servicing your wife in addition to the pool. A pool is nothing more than a hole in the ground into which one pours money. Mine costs me about $2K per year, not counting the $50 plus it adds to my electric bill monthly to run the pump. The grandkids are the only ones who get in it. Oh, and my wife is the only one who wanted a pool, which cost about $37K to install.
Boat is also a bottomless hole for money.
But at least you can scuttle a boat.
I’ve been trying to convey this to the wife. My neighbor and good friend had an above ground pool installed in 2009. Within two years he was replacing the liner, and by year 3 he finally figured out how to control the algae. Last year, after another liner was installed a few years back, the algae took hold again and his pump was acting up. His wife had been nagging him about wanting an in-ground pool, and something told me he was getting one. Sure enough, $110k+ and a couple of months later (counting concrete, fence, pool, outdoor bathroom, pergola, and so on), he’s got his pool. They had some nice-looking parties over there for the first few weeks–crawfish boils, barbecues, and so on–but it’s been pretty quiet for the past couple of months. He even admitted as he was having the work done that he knew it would be a temporary distraction and money pit, but owning his own electrical business he has the disposable income.
Dinero or nalgas
Must be something in the water there!
In Vermont news, we just had a National Guard soldier shot dead in his house’s mudroom. Part of the Mountain Warfare unit, sniper and airborne. VSPD is keeping it quiet, 3rd shooting in a week, darn (drug runners) flatlanders.
Family of slain Vt. National Guardsman searches for answers (wcax.com)
Damned shame, and I feel for the family, especially the wife and kids. Local and regional news is often interpreted differently by those “in the know”, and the rising crime/drug issues are going to be given less attention by those of us who aren’t.
The subject of the thread probably has a lot of Marines who know/knew the involved parties and are saying “yep, X was talking to Y’s girl, and they were about to go to blows”, or thereabouts. I won’t further speculate on that.
The VTARNG Soldier might have known or not known his assailant(s). I’m sure that those of you in that area have your own speculations and inside knowledge.
I post this because, as a Criminal Justice major, would-be/might-be cop, and former Unarmed Security Officer in the Commonwealth of Virginia (🥸), crime and criminals interest me. Also, I make no secret of the fact that I learned far more about the criminal and drug scene in Central Virginia than I ever wanted to know, just by conversing with my brother for a few months.
In the old days they would have met either informally or formally in the ring. Slugged it out, shook hands and been best buddies afterwards. As the song says, still friends…no idea what happened with that girl!
When I was in Navy boot camp back in 1963, we had a clothes drying room where washed dungarees, shirts skivies were hung up on wire clothelines with the heat turned up to dry the clothes and when two recruits had a beef and didn’t see eye to eye, they went to the drying room to duke it out and when they came out, they were friends. Had a couple of those drying room matches.
Ahh. I remember that drying room.
Was it the water they drank? Call the lawyers, there may be a case.
Multiple lives ruined, and for what…?
How many safety briefs have contained the phrase ‘keep it in your pants’?
I hope that our Marines take this to heart, find the strength to police themselves gooder and recover quickly from the loss(es), as a death doesn’t just have one victim…
Shit.
I’m surprised it took this long.