Saturday is for Army

| October 21, 2023

Gonna stay Army-related today.

Remember the husband-and-wife team of O-6s at Ft. Hood Cavazos who got into legal trouble? Both were relieved of command, in a “the family that gets busted together stays together” sort of move. COL. John Meredith was Commander, 1st Armored Brigade Combat Team, and his wife, COL Ann Meredith was Commander, 899th Military Police Brigade. He he was investigated for allegedly forcibly kissing/groping the spouse of a subordinate officer, she was relieved for interfering into his investigation. Announced this week:

Instead, Meredith is facing a general officer memorandum of reprimand, or GOMOR after it was discovered that the encounter was consensual.

Last month, that commander, Lt. Gen. Sean Bernabe, dropped the abusive sexual contact charge against Meredith. On Oct. 13, the last criminal charge, conduct unbecoming an officer, was also dropped.

The newly discovered evidence was text messages between the accuser and the husband who worked under Meredith, according to Sherilyn Bunn, Meredith’s attorney. Those messages showed investigators that the physical encounter between Meredith and the accuser was consensual. However, the two had a falling out when the accuser’s husband received a lackluster officer evaluation report, or OER.

“Generally, the text messages between the accuser and her husband were about the husband’s OER; how he could ‘blow things up’ if he didn’t like it; and the decision to ‘go nuclear’ once the husband received his OER and decided Col. Meredith’s rater comments would negatively impact his rating and his likelihood of getting promoted ‘below the zone,'” Bunn told Military.com.

She received a GOMOR and was facing accusations she interfered in her husband’s investigation. It is unclear whether she’ll see any ramifications on her record in light of the criminal charges against her husband being dropped.  Military.com

Either way, he was dipping his pen in a subordinate’s inkwell – I can see the GOMOR for that alone. Wife? If she interfered in an ongoing investigation, seems to me they should have a matching set.  If not, and she was relieved as a preventative measure, I foresee some more calls the their attorney and a lawsuit.

Now for news that will not shock ANYONE who ever served in a unit with a motorpool and had to have a ‘maintenance day’ every week.

After a months-long study that began in May, the Army will drastically slash maintenance requirements for approximately 1 million of its wheeled vehicles and rifles by eliminating most time-based service intervals that require soldiers to perform tasks like oil changes based on the calendar rather than how much they use their equipment.

Service leaders, including Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George, heralded the change and said that reducing calendar-based maintenance can save around 632 man-years of effort — or around 230,000 soldier work days — annually.

The joys of physically unscrewing and checking the air filter on a truck that hadn’t been driven since the last time you unscrewed and checked the air filter. Wasting a good chunk of a day, every week, to verify what you had checked out already the week before. I think I saw more screws stripped due to being constantly screwed in and out unnecessarily in a year in a wheeled unit than I did in all the years I spent as a civilian mechanic by at least a 10:1 ratio.  Many times you had a choice: pencil-whip the maintenance or redo it uselessly again and again and again…

None of the officials, some of whom have been in service for nearly 40 years, were certain why the time-based service intervals existed in the first place.

“The [time-based] standards have been in place for decades…and where industry evolved [and] took into account changes in filter technology, we didn’t keep pace,” explained Rick Marsh, the chief maintenance policy official in the Army headquarters’ logistics directorate. “We were doing the same old thing — not sure why.” Army Times

Bet any of us could tell him why.  H/T to Jeff LPH for this one.

 

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Fm2176

They shouldn’t have fired her, she’s a “First”!: https://m.facebook.com/photo.php/?photo_id=10162875219943682

5JC

…poof

KoB

with a ht 2 5Guy…poof is right. Drat! I wuz curious as to what Ms Accuser Thang looked like me ownself. You know, to see if supposedly copping a feel and a kiss was worth throwing your career away. One would think that an 06 knew which head he was supposed to think with. God…”Man, I’ve got good news and bad news.” Man… “What’s the good news?” God…”I’m giving you a brain and a penis.” Man…”Great! What’s the bad news?” God…”I’m only giving you enough blood to use one at a time.” Did the accused hubby put her up to all of this to get a better OER? Did the accuser do it on her own to possibly help further hubby’s career and then got mad cause it didn’t help? Curious as to what COL Ann looked like too. Maybe they all liked to have a “swinging” good time?

“We were doing the same old thing — not sure why.”  No reason but because that’s the way we’ve always done it. Gives the motor pool troops something to do to keep them looking busy.

Old tanker

The time based maintenance got expensive. My Reserve unit had to change the oil on the old M60’s for no reason other than time. Later they went to the oil analysis route that saved time, oil and money. Those old beasts used a LOT of oil.

Odie

Fresh oil change every 3rd use?

Wilson

I wish they had changed the oil in the salad dressing more frequently.

CCO

We were part of the Army oil analysis program in the ‘90s. Oil might be black as tar, but oil analysis said it was ok.

Does that mean the big green machine stop doing oil analysis between Clinton and the current incumbent?

A Proud Infidel®™

While I was on Benning back in the early 90’s there was a scandal in the AOAP there where someone was pencil whipping the tests instead of actually doing them. said Civilian got canned as well as other action and a couple of months later we were doing oil changes on a number of our vehicles!

Milo Mindbender

In an diesel engine once you start it with fresh oil it will be black, that is the nature of the beast. I also drew samples for AOAP, back in the 90’s, and it was to reduce the amount of hazmat produced as well as the oil wasted. Used oil is hazmat, and needs special disposal. We use oil analysis in the civilian sector now, my company lilis a sample on each 90 service to check for engine wear issues, and these tractors are on a 40K mileage schedule.

SFC D

No no no, used oil goes into the cracks in the motor pool asphalt. Prevents weeds. Pollution, you say? Asphalt is essentially oil and rocks, right?

Eric (The former OC Tanker)

AS an old tanker (M60A1/A3, M1/A1 heavy common) way back in the early ’80’s the oil change interval went from every Q service to as required by a AOAP (Army Oil Analysis Program). This alone had saved a metric crap ton of POL usage. Not to say that Q, S and A services were not done, the Q service required that all oil/fuel filters be changed, Packs pulled and hull steam/pressure washed.

SFC D

I never trusted the AOAP tests. In my pre-Army life, I was a ski area maintenance guy, did a lot of work on Thiokol/DeLorean snowcats. We subscribed to an oil analysis program. Maintenance chief had me send in two samples from the same engine just to see what would happen. We got completely different results.

jeff LPH 3 63-66

When you changed the M60’s oil, did you sleep underneath an oil truck the night before so that you could wake up oily in the morning.

Skivvy Stacker

Ah, fuck all that. I say you wait until the “Check Engine” light comes on, then ignore it like everyone else.

AW1Ed

Saturday is for who?

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Eggs

Air Force?

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SFC D

Could’ve been worse. Wait till Space Command has an academy.

MustangCPT

The Space Force cadets attend the Air Force Academy.

SFC D

For now. Eventually, they’re gonna want their own space cadet academy.

USMC Steve

HaHa, Space Cadets.

A Proud Infidel®™

The US Air Force was born from the US Army Air Force and now the US Space Force has formed from the USAF, thus making it the US Army’s Grandkid!

MustangCPT

So, what you’re saying is that Navy lost to Army’s kid?

BWAHAHAHAHA

MustangCPT

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

A Proud Infidel®™

*POW!*, right in the kisser!

11B-Mailclerk

That didn’t age well…..

AW1Ed

It went about as well as I expected it to.
*grin*

Wireman611

No more playing with other people’s privates for those Colonels.

5JC

So the cuck got a mediocre OER and then went full Beta eh? Surprise, surprise.

Col Mrs. Col should still face charges though. It doesn’t change what she did.

Ah, please keep including Base Names So I don’t have to guess where the hell it is that people are acting stupid this time.

Motorstables Monday, I miss it not.

SFC D

Thou shalt not bang the hired help, nor shalt though diddle the hired help’s spouse.

A Proud Infidel®™

I remember Command Maintenance on Mondays, inspect your vehicle even if it didn’t leave the Motor pool in the last few weeks, how many others kept all of the deficiencies listed on a note pad in their pocket for the next week’s inspections?

5JC

A little more reading..

She will not face criminal charges or a court-martial and was disciplined through administrative action, Donovan said.

https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2023-03-23/fort-hood-colonels-fired-investigations-9584677.html

Green Thumb

Fucking clown show.

ChipNASA

I know why we do stupid, pointless shit in the military, like inventory, inventory and maintaining maintenance because reasons.

If the fact that the higher-ups couldn’t even identify a single reason why this was being done for the last 40 years, then there’s your sign h/t to Bill Engvall..

Anonymous

Sh*t can break just sitting there, I know, but doing services that assume usage when none happens is dumb.

11B-Mailclerk

Shit gets stolen.

Put jeep in gear. Whhhhrrrrrrrrr! And go nowhere. WTF? Put in 4wd. Jeep moves. WTF? Put back in 2wd. Whrrrr! 4wd. Moves.

Check under jeep. Drive shaft is missing.

SFC D

Circle-X. It’s operable.

Herbert J Messkit

I read once of a post that had a support cycle tasking of guarding a stadium for years. Someone finally challenged the reason for guarding an empty stadium. After extensive historical research they finally determined that during construction there was a problem of theft of building materials, and never canceled it after the stadium was completed. Another case of we’ve always done it that way.

A Proud Infidel®™

Could also have been some mediocre CO thinking “HEY, that will keep my Troops busy so they don’t get into trouble and it might raise morale!”. I remember having to do 24 hour Guard Shifts at Ranges on Benning because someone had once stolen the copper strips out of the Vehicle Gunnery Ranges.

Wilson

Tuesdays in the 3rd ACR at Bliss … “Saddles and Sabres” … filled out a lot of 2404’s (I think that was the PMCS form)

Prior Service

The CSA is talking about reducing semi- and annual services. This is a good thing in that we do a lot of those without driving that much. It’s a bad thing in that we are issuing our equipment seldom enough that cutting into services is acceptable. If we are training enough, it requires more services.

timactual

“reducing calendar-based maintenance can save around 632 man-years of effort — or around 230,000 soldier work days”

And just what, pray tell, do those bean counters propose to do with all those “soldier work days”? I don’t know what other units do, but in the Infantry if you are not fighting a war and in a combat zone you have lots of time to kill. You can’t train all day every day. I spent quite a few “soldier work days” trying to look busy, many of them “maintenance days” sitting in the motor pool with an oily rag in my hand trying to stay awake. There is a reason for definition #2 below.

“soldiered; soldiering ˈsōl-jə-riŋ 
ˈsōlj-riŋ

intransitive verb
1
a : to serve as a soldier
b : to behave in a soldierly manner
c : to push doggedly forward
—usually used with onsoldiered on to the end
2
: to make a pretense of working while really loafing “

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soldier

Anonymous

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SFC D

See also, “Shamming”.

Wilson

Malingering

Graybeard

Dad, in his WWII letters home, used “goldbricking” a lot.

11B-Mailclerk

PT for the fat?

Squad tactics?

Marksmanship on simulators?

First aid / combat lifesaver?

PT for the fat?

MarineDad61

Saturday is for Army.
But not this Saturday. Not yesterday.
LSU – 62
Army – 0

The Army-Navy game on December 9 should be fun… for fans of Navy.

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A Proud Infidel®™

Navy kinda got their tails whipped by Air Force!!! 😁😁

Grunt

Soooo.

Male full bird touches a subordinate’s wife.

Subordinate’s wife is okay with it.

Subordinate is okay with it (it = his rater touching his wife) until he gets a shit OER, then has wife file a complaint.

Full bird’s wife is apparently okay with it, as instead of making the news for beating full bird’s ass, she makes the new for running interference for the investigation.

Do I have all that right?

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MustangCPT

Yeah, sounds like the “key party” episode from That 70’s Show!

USMC Steve

The reason for those time based requirements is easy. To keep the troops busy in garrison.