Midweek Open Thread
Portrait of Christopher Columbus with a spyglass. (Gettyimages/askmehow)
Columbus Day, observed, was this past Monday, October 10. The federal holiday is the second Monday of October. This year, I gunned for the actual day he landed, October 12, 1492. So, Happy Columbus Day… Based on the actual landing date (smile).
There are certain members of our society who have demonized Christopher Columbus. They are not armed with the facts, but with misinformation. There were certain realities that existed around the time that we would disapprove of. However, that does not mean that we should judge them based on our standards. There was a lot of good that occurred as a result of European exploration and conquest. For example, cannibalistic religious and cultural practices were put to an end in areas that the Spaniards controlled. Here is one video that puts the Christopher Columbus exploration story into proper perspective.
Category: Open thread
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Congrats, Wireman
A BIG CONGRATS, Wireman611!!
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Got to work today and there it was. Celebrate the true meaning of the holiday.
Randy Marsh was Pro Colobus Day!
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Columbus
On station.
Europeans brought technology such as the wheel to the “New World”.
Surely that was an unforgivably heinous act.
And the wheel + casino’s
I bet they wheely did I bet.
“There were certain realities that existed around the time that we would disapprove of”
Imagine what they would think of some of the shit going on today.
I love how none of these idiots that demonize Columbus want to talk about the many tribes that chose to ally themselves with Hernán Cortés against the Aztecs because those tribes were fed up with their cruelty. And there were many tribes in the US that did not like each other either.
And I hate the argument that Columbus discovered nothing because people were already living there. You can easily turn that around and say the same thing if the tribes were able to travel to Europe. Because to Europe, it was a new discovery. And a very important one.
Would the Native Americans have discovered anything despite Western Europe also being settled and most of the countries there were already technologically ahead of the native tribes in that they had guns since 1411, were able to print books on a large scale by 1436, and build ships that could survive a transoceanic journey?
Happy Columbus Day to all.
The Indians [known to the “woke” as “Native Americans” or some such rot] agree.
Like how the left/libtard proggies lump all the native folk into a “there all the same” indigenous category? Racist much, liberals?
As pointed out Monday, gotta admire a dude that can convince a married woman to give you enough money to take a 3 boat cruise. And if he hadn’t of done it, someone would’ve.
I’m sure that Princess Lieawatha Warren hates Chris most of all. Just imagine, if you will, had Chris not set out on his cruise she would have surely been Queen by now.
The radio (WFTL) mentioned the other day that in one city where they tore down Columbuse’s statue, they had a Columbus day parade.
Mayorkas is a lying little bitch. We already knew this, but nice to see it confirmed.
Mayorkas alerted that no Haitian migrants were ‘whipped’hours before WH press conference
Mayorkas would go on to describe the incident as ‘horrifying’
By Bill Melugin , Adam Shaw | Fox News
Mayorkas alerted that no Haitian migrants were ‘whipped’ hours before WH press conference | Fox News
The guy is just another D-rat cuck incapable of riding a horse. The photo clearly shows to any horseman that the rider is incapable of whipping anything. His left hand I holding the left split rein, and his right is holding the invader’s shirt. So, unless the rider has a third arm….
Or, imagine a society where weak-spirited cowards criticize men, also on occasion women, braver and more accomplished then they.
Christopher Columbus jumped his ass into a Great Unknown, gambling it all, for the betterment of himself and the society he loved.
We would be so blessed to dare the same.
> Christopher Columbus jumped his ass into a Great Unknown, gambling it all, for the betterment of himself and the society he loved.
Like that even matters. The most important fact about Columbus is that he failed to provide Diversity, Equity & Inclusion training to his crews…who cares about anything else…?
That’s “racist” and “privilege” of some kind now, comrade!
“Fort Hood To Be Renamed For Richard Cavazos, A Four-Star Hispanic General”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fort-hood-renamed-richard-cavazos-four-star-hispanic-general-rcna51302
“The new name will honor Gen. Richard Cavazos, who is noted for his leadership during the Korean War, when he earned the Silver Star and Distinguished Service Cross for leading the Puerto Rican regiment “The Borinqueneers.” He also served in Vietnam.”
“Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin ordered the renaming Thursday.”
Maybe this will finally stop the rapes, murders, drugs and thefts.
Starting Operation Breath Holding, time meow.
(fuck Raytheon Lloyd)
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So….When the Space Force deploys to Space, will they be on the USS Joseph Robinette Biden Jr?
Asking For A Friend…
“These renaming recommendations for Army installations named in commemoration of the Confederacy are included in Part I of our Final Report to Congress.”
https://www.thenamingcommission.gov/names
* Fort Moore
Fort Benning, Georgia renamed in commemoration of Lt. Gen. Hal Moore and Julia Moore
* Fort Liberty
Fort Bragg, North Carolina to be renamed in commemoration of the American value of Liberty
*Fort Eisenhower
Fort Gordon, Georgia to be renamed in commemoration ofGeneral of the Army Dwight D. Eisenhower
* Fort Walker
Fort A.P. Hill, Virginia to be renamed in commemoration of Dr. Mary Edwards Walker
* Fort Cavazos
Fort Hood, Texas to be renamed in commemoration of Gen. Richard E. Cavazos
* Fort Gregg-Adams
Fort Lee, Virginia to be renamed in commemoration of Lt. Gen. Arthur J. Gregg and Lt. Col. Charity Adams
* Fort Barfoot
Fort Pickett, Virginia to be renamed in commemoration of Tech. Sgt. Van T. Barfoot
* Fort Johnson
Fort Polk, Louisiana to be renamed in commemoration of Sgt. William Henry Johnson
* Fort Novosel
Fort Rucker, Alabama to be renamed in commemoration of CW4 Michael J. Novosel Sr.
You Be The Judge.
And this (an opinion):
“Now Is The Time To Rename The Carrier John C. Stennis”
https://www.navytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2022/10/11/now-is-the-time-to-rename-the-carrier-john-c-stennis/
Democratic lawmakers Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., are pushing for the U.S. to temporarily halt all arms sales to Saudi Arabia
“The long and short is the Saudis need to come to their senses,” Blumenthal said. “They have committed a humongous blunder very much against their own economic and security interests as well as ours. The only apparent purpose of this cut in oil supplies is to help the Russians and harm Americans. It was unprovoked and unforced as an error.”
Seems to me like the DID come to their senses.
Our Beloved AW1Ed has some explaining to do….😉😎
(Waiting for wiity feedback from our favorite Reb, KoB…gabn/gabaf/hbtd/rtr)
BEAT NAVY!!
“USS Rushmore Has A Roach Problem”
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2022/10/11/uss-rushmore-has-a-roach-problem/
A whole new meaning to the term “bug juice”. I always thought that the pests aboard floating Artillery Platforms were 2 legged, not six legged. Who knew?
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Waiting for our Navy Punster Jeff with his feedback on your reply…
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We need to give our beloved Ed a break and start picking on Mason..😉😎
“…and start picking on Mason.” Nah, not near as much fun. ‘sides, I don’t know of any Chair Farce cheesy movies that I’ve never seen that I could use to poke at him with. And beating Chair Farce in a gridiron competition is, well…basically…no competition.
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How about “Airplane”?
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Whatever, Private Benjamin.
Go Navy!
A True Story.
We found his Birth certificates and Navy Records.
He also became a Father at the age of 15.
“How A 12-Year-Old Tricked The Navy Into Letting Him Fight In WWII”
https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/2022/10/05/how-a-12-year-old-tricked-the-navy-into-letting-him-fight-in-wwii/
Rest In Peace, Calvin Graham.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10667014/calvin-leon-graham
Ninja:
I hate to bring doubt into this story, but Calvin Graham is wearing Combat Aircrew Wings in that “findagrave” photo.
Aircrew (Air Crew)/Combat Aircrew Wing Insignia
APPENDIX 20 Evolution of Naval Wings (Breast Insignia) (navy.mil)
“During World War II a new aviation breast insignia was designed in response to numerous recommendations from the Fleet to recognize the job done by enlisted aircrew personnel flying in combat.”
Why is Graham wearing those Combat Aircrew Wings in that photo?
USS SOUTH DAKOTA (BB-57) was a battleship, not an aircraft carrier, and the story linked above states that he served as a gunner aboard that battleship. Nowhere is it stated that he ever served as a Naval Aircrewman.
Does any of your research indicate that Graham ever served as a Naval Aircrewman in combat? If not, then he shouldn’t be wearing those Combat Aircrew Wings.
Sorry, but I’m getting a whiff of potential WW2 POSer bullshit here.
Another Unsung Hero.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/72213738/charles-jackson-french
“On September 5, 1942, United States Navy Petty Officer First Class Charles Jackson French, of Omaha Nebraska, swam through the night for 6 – 8 hours pulling a raft of 15 wounded sailors with a rope around his stomach through shark infested waters after the USS Gregory was hit by Japanese naval fire near Guadalcanal. French successfully brought the men to safety on the shores of the Solomon Islands. French was the first black swimmer to earn the Navy Medal for his heroism in 1943.”
Once Charles Jackson French was identified, he became a national hero. A depiction of French’s heroic actions was included in the WWII Commemorative Card Set produced by Gum Inc., based in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. In addition to the War Gum trading card, his story was told in syndicated comic strips, on calendars and he made public appearances across the country to promote the sale of War Bonds”.
Speaking of Indians (Yep, Graybeard is right), a hilarious one from Dave Chappell about Indians.
https://youtu.be/0XLUrW_4ZMs
Indian Chief Scene From “Blazing Saddles”
😉😎
https://youtu.be/MAYt6dpCgOI
This is 3 Hours long. It looks interesting.
“The Real History Of The Americas Before Columbus | 1491: Complete Series | Timeline”
https://youtu.be/42uVYNTXTTI
Watch the movies “The Robe” and “Apocalypto” if you want a depiction of what indigenous people provided in D,I,E. But their version spelled a word instead of an acronym.
Sadly, we think some or the majorities of these have a brain hiccup, i.e. mental issues…
“Stolen Valor Village Idiots Of 2022 (Marine Reacts)
https://youtu.be/UXipsvCvJe8
So, by Stolen Valor standards,
does J.R. Majewski qualify as a “vest”?
Beard, check.
Fat gut, check.
Vest (red, not black leather) check.
All he needs yet,
is a dickus minimus big tires jacked up diesel pickup truck,
and a large V-Twin (Harley or Injun) motorcycle.
He is imitating JD Vance and Glen Youngkin…
It is obvious he was ashamed to have been stationed in Qatar for 179 days, which was R&R. Am sure there are others here that went there beside us.
I still say the Embellishers have very low self esteem and are always covering something, i.e. they got kicked out, barred from reenlistment, Article 15s, demotions..
Some wanted Daddy’s attention, approval.
Look at Hunter Biden…Whoops, we forgot his Daddy who definitedly has a huge brain hiccup..
We have more respect for Beetle Bailey Cookie running for office…SOMEONE has to feed the troops.
Logistics Wins The War. Ask the Brits via the American Revolution….😉😎
A fat queef.
These dumb Proggy bastards seem to forget, or never knew, that the human race was a very different kettle of fish in 1492 and for over 200 years thereafter. Columbus did not invent the conquest, mistreatment, and exploitation of indigenous peoples. Nor did he have much of a hand in it. He died a poor and broken man.
THIS IS Hilarious!!!!!
Whatever happened to Smollet?
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https://youtu.be/tEpZzvSzYfI
Great find. I loved it😂😍. But they missed a funny fact. When the Nigerians went to buy MAGA hats, the couldn’t find any so they just bought red ball caps. Also, their noose was clothesline instead of rope, and Juicey never dropped his Subway sannie.
Thank You, rgr769 for the info…👍👍👍👍We thought it was funny, funny, funny and so true! It never gets old…never does the Dave Chappelle one. Still kept believe Smollett is free. Ticks us off!
https://youtu.be/wZXoErL2124
He has got to be the most blatant proven liar and perjurer in recent history. I mean he paid his Nigerian crisis actors with a personal check.
“Rob Schneider: “I’ve Had It With The Democratic Party”…
https://youtu.be/kDInzVErk1I
ninja,
Presto expando.
youtube links expand here,
youtu(dot)be links do not.
Hope this helps.
Thank You, MarineDad61!!!😊
I wonder what tribal affiliation The False Commander “Phony” Phil Monkress (CEO of All-Points Logistics) claimed on Indigenous People’s Day? He has claimed a few, that’s for sure.
Not that Phildo et al. took it off, anyway. He views it as another day to get the jump on his competitors through procuring taxpayer-funded goverment, set-aside minority grants based upon his highly questionable and potentially felonious Native American, Navy SEAL and Law Enforcement claims.
We hope oneday Ex-PH2 will return.
We also miss exchanging thoughts with LC.
And Commissar. Yes, we saw the small exchange the other day. Sometimes, he comes up with funny stuff. We may not agree with everything he says, but that is OK. We enjoy sharing ideas.
We respect everyone here despite their personal beliefs in any type of Faith or no Faith. That is OK with us. We will always cling to our Outlaw, a Jewish Carpenter who was a Radical during his time. He was One Cool Dude.
We Love Our Country. We Love Our Faith. We Love Those Who Have A Heartbeat, But No Voice. We Will Always Defend And Support Our Constitution.
We The People.
Please Vote In November.
Amen! Testify!
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Ray Charles “America The Beautiful” (Official 50th Anniversary Video):
https://youtu.be/9ZYH8v42a2w
We Still Love Our Country.
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Amen, Sister.
12 October:
1892: The Pledge Of Allegiance is first recited by students in many US public schools.
1901: President Theodore Roosevelt officially renames the “Executive Mansion” to the White House.
1945: World War II: Desmond Doss is the first conscientious objector to receive the U.S. Medal of Honor.
This one for 26Limabeans:
1960: Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev pounds his shoe on a desk at the United Nations to protest a Philippine assertion.
2000: The USS Cole, a US Navy destroyer, is badly damaged by two al-Qaeda suicide bombers, killing 17 crew members and wounding at least 39.
1919: Doris Miller Born. He died in 1943. Remember him?
1870: Our Bobby E. Lee passed away. Rest In Peace, Warrior. His son, George Washington Custis Lee sold Arlington Cemetary to the US Government for $150,000 (equal to $3,701,364 in 2022). You don’t like Confederates and call them Traitors, but you still want to buried at Arlington? 😎😉
“Strike the tent.”
I remember when this came out in 1990…Gee Whiz…🙄🤔
“Researcher Disputes Lee’s Last Words”
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1990/05/31/Researcher-disputes-Lees-last-words/6583644126400/
I will say it again. Arlington belonged to the Lee family. His Home. Things happen in War. He and others fought against their West Point Classmates. The War Between The States dealt with other issues. My Paternal North Carolina Family were too poor to have slaves, but they defended their land by joining and fighting. One was wounded at Gettysbug on 1 July 1863 and taken POW by the Union Army. I am proud of my Heritage. THE SOUTH. I resent Wokeness destroying History. Next thing you know, Woke will come after our Faiths. Oh, Wait…That is already happening. You don’t like the Confederates? Get buried somewhere else so that Southern Soil does not taint your Soul. Get Over It.The South HAS Already Risen Again.
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The reason Arlington is a cemetery is because Congress wanted to make sure that the Lee family could never recover ownership of their ancestral estate after the war. That is the primary reason that Union dead were being interred there during and immediately after the war.
“The government acquired Arlington at a tax sale in 1864 for $26,800, equal to $464,324 today. Mrs. Lee had not appeared in person but rather had sent an agent, attempting to pay the $92.07 in property taxes (equal to $1,595 today) assessed on the estate in a timely manner.The government turned away her agent, refusing to accept the tendered payment. In 1874, Custis Lee, heir under his grandfather’s will passing the estate in trust to his mother, sued the United States, claiming ownership of Arlington. On December 9, 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5–4 in Lee’s favor in United States v. Lee, deciding that Arlington had been confiscated without due process.After that decision, Congress returned the estate to him, and on March 3, 1883, Custis Lee sold it back to the government for $150,000 (equal to $3,701,364 in 2022) at a signing ceremony with Secretary of War Robert Todd Lincoln.The land then became a military reservation.”
This is what we were taught in College and Military History. The Supreme Court had to get involved. Curtis Lee, General Robert E. Lee’s Son, won when he sued the US. We felt he did the right thing by selling it back to the Government with the signing ceremony being conducted with Abraham Lincoln’s Son, Robert Todd, 18 years after the War Between The States were over, during Chester Arthur’s term as President.
Somewhere in boxes, I still have papers I wrote about Arlington’s history. Has always been fasinating subject to me based on “controversies”, land ownership, law decisions, etc etc.
United States v. Lee, 106 U.S. 196 (1882)
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/106/196/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Lee_(1882)
“The U.S. government faced the daunting prospect of having to disinter 17,000 bodies and transfer Arlington back to the Lee family.”
ninja, another piece of Real Estate from The War, that was decided by a Supreme Court Case, is here:
https://georgiahistory.com/ghmi_marker_updated/confederate-states-central-laboratory/
Wow. Did not know this! Thank You!
What you provided is a Keeper.
My NC background is Moore County, NC. Relatives came from Scotland to PA then traveled to NC. Relatives served in the Anerican Revolution and the War Between The States. Cannot help my family came from the South even though the ninja family were born at Fort Monmouth and Fort Devins…😉😎 Fort Bragg is near Moore County…Hooh-Aaah…Most CONUS duty was spent at Army Bases in the South…🤭
https://www.moorecountync.gov/community/history
Another article about Lee vs US 1882. Curtis did the right thing. Besides, what a mess. He has enough respect for our deceased Soldiers.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/arlington-national-cemetery-history/
Thank You again! We just get tired of hearing that my family were Traitors…🙄
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So sad that true history, good and bad, is not taught anymore. My folks were yeoman farmers and mechanics and we, too, have answered the call since F&I War. A Compatriot of mine grew up near the Lab Site. I helped him to get that marker placed. It was put there because it is within a few yards of the site, and in a highly visible, secure location. The City of Macon went thru the site a few years back and tore down the main building one dark rainy night. And, yep, the Historical Preservation Folks, wink, nod, looked the other way. “A danger to the Public.” Solid brick with 4-8 foot walls, it wasn’t going to fall in. Same City Fathers spent $60 M on the Tubman Museum, Tax Payer $. No vote on that either.
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My family as well fought for their states with the Confederacy.
They, too, were mostly poor folks before and moreso after the War of Northern Aggression (that ought to tick a seagull off).
When someone calls such folks traitors, I know they are abjectly ignorant and probably intend to stay that way – therefore I can ignore their verbal diarrhea.
In the family treasure chests I have a couple of letters home from the field. If memory serves, my ancestor who wrote those letters died in a battle shortly after.
“Oct. 12, 2000, Terror Attack On USS Cole Kills 17 American Sailors, Wounds Dozens”
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/this-day-history-oct-12-2000-terror-attack-uss-cole-kills-17-sailors-wounds-dozens
Kenneth E. Clodfelter, 21, Mechanicsville, Virginia; Richard Costelow, 35, Morrisville, Pennsylvania.; Lakeina M. Francis, 19, Woodleaf, North Carolina; Timothy L. Gauna, 21, Rice, Texas; Cherone L. Gunn, 22, Rex, Georgia; James R. McDaniels, 19, Norfolk, Virginia; Marc I. Nieto, 24, Fond du Lac, Wisconsin; Ronald S. Owens, 24, Vero Beach, Florida; Lakiba N. Palmer, 22, San Diego, California; Joshua L. Parlett, 19, Churchville, Maryland; Patrick H. Roy, 19, Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York; Kevin S. Rux, 30, Portland, North Dakota.; Ronchester M. Santiago, 22, Kingsville, Texas; Timothy L. Saunders, 32, Ringgold, Virgina; Gary G. Swenchonis Jr., 26, Rockport, Texas; Andrew Triplett, 31, Macon, Mississippi.; and Craig B. Wibberley, 19, Williamsport, Maryland.
Military Phony / Stolen Valor question.
IF a fat jerkwad is caught on video at a D.C political event,
shaking hands with a politician,
and telling the politician
“I’m a Medal of Honor nominee”…
Is this enough to roll him through the flour?
After all,
aren’t almost all rejected Medal of Honor nominees
given some other high value medal,
like a Silver Star?
Or a Cross?
BONUS – An online sleuth bud ran the video screenshot
though online facial detection,
and it comes up as THIS guy… at THIS website.
Medal of Honor nominee, my ass.
https://www.fuckbook.com/en/p/Budwell