VP Harris says you can be religious and support abortion. Faith leaders say “uh, no”
VP Kamala Harris says Americans of faith do not need to ‘abandon their faith’ to support abortion.
“That’s such an important point to raise,” she said. “It is her choice and it should be her choice to make, if she chooses a consultation with a loved one, with a healthcare provider, with her faith leader.”
“I say this,” continued Harris, “one does not have to abandon their faith or their beliefs to agree that the government should not be making that decision for her. It’s literally that basic.”
This follows in the footsteps of Catholic politicians like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, who also support abortion. Seems her bishop doesn’t agree:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a self-professed Catholic, said in August that it is “sinful” to oppose abortion, claiming that restrictions are an “assault on women of color and women [in] lower income families.” In May, San Francisco archbishop Salvatore Cordileone barred Pelosi from receiving Communion in the Archdiocese of San Francisco over her stance on abortion, saying she was no longer eligible “unless and until she publicly repudiates her support for abortion ‘rights’ and confess and receive absolution for her cooperation in this evil in the sacrament of Penance.”
Coupla folks from major religious groups had a few words for Kamal:
Dr. Bart Barber, pastor of First Baptist Church of Farmersville in East Texas and president of the Southern Baptist Convention, told Fox News Digital that it’s “sometimes difficult to know what politicians like Harris actually want Christians to do with their faith when it comes to politics.
“If we fail to apply the teachings of our faith to questions like immigration or Herschel Walker’s behavior or Donald Trump’s behavior in the way that she thinks we should, we wind up being scolded and encouraged to let our faith shape our moral and political decisions more aggressively,” Barber said.
“But when it comes to questions like abortion, she is willing to offer instruction about how we should divorce our faith from our moral and political decisions. I choose to let the teachings of Jesus instruct me about how to apply my faith. I show respect for our Vice-President by praying for her and by loving her as my neighbor, and I show respect for the fellow human beings waiting for their chance to be born by opposing their slaughter in the abortionist’s chamber.”
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Bishop Robert Barron, bishop of the Diocese of Winona-Rochester in Minnesota, and founder of Word on Fire: Catholic Ministries, told Fox News Digital that abortion is an “objective evil” and a “willful destruction of human life” that should not be determined by a “consultative process.”
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“Perhaps the Vice President was talking about a different faith than the one ‘that was once for all delivered to the saints,’ as Jude wrote,” Brent Leatherwood, President for the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, told Fox News Digital.
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Rev. Lawrence R. Rast Jr., president of Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and a former Lutheran pastor, told Fox News Digital that the vice president’s comments “trivialize the importance of one’s faith for making difficult decisions.”
“She does this by deflecting the issue to the question of whether the government can limit choices for individuals,” Rast said. “Within the context of faith, however, this is not a question of government directive, but rather a question of biblical teaching and its implication for personal life choices. The Scriptures clearly teach that life is sacred from conception until natural death. And thus one cannot reconcile the Christian faith with the willful killing of children.” Fox
Well, after seeing how she entered politics, it is not surprising that she seems to have learned her theology from Willie Brown, too (I’m not altogether sure that “Oh God! Oh God!” counts.) Meanwhile, in her home state Prop 1 is on the ballot, saying:
“The state shall not deny or interfere with an individual’s reproductive freedom in their most intimate decisions, which includes their fundamental right to choose to have an abortion and their fundamental right to choose or refuse contraceptives.”
Note there is no language on , endangerment, viability, late terms, etc. up to the moment of birth. These were deliberately excluded, according to one of its authors:
When the California legislature debated the proposal, lawmakers asked whether it would allow abortion past viability, when an unborn child can survive outside the womb. A promised answer never came.
Dr. Pratima Gupta, a San Diego obstetrician-gynecologist involved in drafting the law, told the Northern California radio station KQED that drafters deliberately excluded the word “viability.” He said every pregnancy is “individual” and a “continuum.”
Surely no one would ever misuse abortions….remember back when Roe v. Wade came in, and they promised abortions would be rare? Me too.
Category: 2022 Elections, Democrats, Religion
Is 79 years too late? Asking for a friend…
It is interesting that Nancy invokes race here to keep the abortion mills running at full tilt. 40% of the women in the US who get an abortion are black.
Welp hillary simply adores the woman who founded planned parenthood. I assume she also appreciates that the reason she founded it was to eliminate the black race in the US.
No question at all on that one
“Reverends “ Warnock, Jackson and Sharpton agree with her. Makes me wonder who they serve, because it isn’t The man up above.
Every time that dumb c*nt opens her mouth something ridiculous flies out. She’s on the VP because she’s the ONLY Dem WORSE than the Pedo-in-Chief. No, Joe & Nancy are NOT devout Catholics. That’s pandering 100%. All religion sanctify human life, family values, and bringing children into the world.
The first texts that were downloaded onto a tablet from The Cloud spoke of this. Do believe it was # 3.
Odd, again, how so many people that are in favor of murdering innocent babies were not aborted themselves. Is it too late to abort them?
I’d bet good money that she uses a Venn Diaphragm, but I wouldn’t want to be the one to verify!
I assume she has “culturally appropriated” a position of theologian by those statements. On the other hand the real Theologian made the position very very clear. Even more so than the founders did with the 2nd amendment. It is #6 on the list.
Now folks have taken the last word in a couple ways but I was told by scholars that the translation from the original was close but not quite right. Instead of “kill” the word used refers more to “murder”, on other words wrongfully kill.
Here is the original as translated to English and in the format I learned them more than 55 years ago.
If Willie’s blow-up doll ever had to get an abortion it would have to be a tonsillectomy.
She was notorious for “swallowing the evidence” to protect Willy at the cost of sore knees. 😵
This shit can’t get any better even without the popcorn.
Satanism is a faith, I suppose.
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There is more than one faith, and most faiths support access to abortion.
Including most Protestant denominations.
I’m going to donate to the DeSantis campaign in your name once again.
Most faiths supported slavery at some point.
This isn’t a popularity contest. The concept of abortion comes down to the willful extinguishing of a human life without due process of law, without access to counsel, and without any chance for the victim to have a say in the matter. It comes up against the Natural Rights to Life, and Liberty based only on the argument that it is somehow the “right” of a woman to terminate a life because she does, and that’s why, so there.
So, for a faith system to simply say; “we support a woman’s ‘right’ to choose” means nothing, because they are supporting a non-existant right. And just because “most faiths support access” to abortion is equally meaningless two wrongs STILL don’t make a right.
Here ends the sermon.
–Rev. Mark A Lauer (Skivvy Stacker)
FBI files opened up on said Clergy as soon as they made their statements, anyone wanna bet?