Polls say voters want gun control, actual voters say differently
OK, she’s a repeat. I like brunettes. I get to pick the pic, so there.
This is not a shock that polls are inaccurate. It IS news, though, when one of the most historically anti-gun publications around: The NY Times, The Grey Lady, “All the news that fits, we print” admits that while all the ‘reputable polls’ say high percentages of voters want universal registration, want universal background checks, hate ‘assault weapons’, blah blah blah, that in the only polls that really count – elections – anti-gunners are doing ‘way worse than expected. You can tell Joe Citizen he doesn’t need or want a gun and he may nod his head and agree – until he hears a noise in the night and suddenly “dammit honey, I am buying a GUN and you can just shut up!”
For instance, based on survey data, 86-percent of Nevadans supposedly supported the criminalization of private transfers. However, when Nevadans went to the polls in 2016 to vote on the policy, the measure barely passed with 50.45-percent of the vote.
A similar story played out in Maine. According to the New York Times item, 83-percent of Mainers were expected to support a background check ballot measure in 2016. On election day Maine residents voted the policy down, with 52-percent opposing the measure. Even in deep blue states like Washington and California, private transfer ballot measures have underperformed expectations by about 20-30 percent.
The usual theories for America’s conservative gun politics do not explain the poor showings. The supporters of the initiatives outspent the all-powerful gun lobby. All manner of voters, not just single-issue voters or politicians, got an equal say. The Senate was not to blame; indeed, the results suggested that a national referendum on background checks would have lost.
Part of their problem seems to be that the more voters learn about the specific proposed laws, the less they like the way those laws are written:
David Farmer, who led the Maine effort for universal background checks in 2016, said that supporters of gun rights can be particularly persuasive once a concrete proposal is unveiled. In Maine, polling support for the measure declined between introduction and the final vote, before failing, 52-48.
“Damn right, tax the rich. Wait a minutes, whaddya mean, the law says I’M rich? Wait a minute now…”
The two above quotes from the Times are behind a paywall. You can also see good write-ups on them at NRA-ILA and Buckeye Firearms. Nate Cohn seems to have a nasty honest streak which may jeopardize his future with the Times, he wrote a similar piece exposing the soft general support for gun control back in 2012, too.
Category: 2022 Elections, Guns
“OK, she’s a repeat. I like brunettes. I get to pick the pic, so there.”
Do you hear me pushing you around??
My observations over many years have taught me that when a woman’s hair is that jet black it means one of two things: 1) she’s Japanese or Korean or 2) it’s dyed. (Not that there’s anything wrong with either of those two things.)
How polls work at the New York Times:
*SOMA = “Straight Out of My Ass”
Once saw an interesting statement: most of the folks who run the media are white, rich, liberal Ivy Leaguers, whose friends are pretty much the same. So when all their friends and colleagues have the same world view, they tend to think that is a normal centrist view, and think that anything to the right of that is reactionary and extremist right wing.
At the NYT’s pre Christmas cocktail party in Dec 1972, many were heard to opine that they could not understand how Richard Nixon got reelected, nobody THEY knew voted for him.
Thats a quote from New Yorker magazine film critic Pauline Kael: ‘I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don’t know. They’re outside my ken. But sometimes when I’m in a theater I can feel them.’
Souds legitimate
I’d like to get repetitious with that Black Haired Beauty my ownself. I like brunettes too…and redheads (my favorite)…and females that were born female.
It is not control of the gunz they want, it is control of We, The People that is their goal. Stock up on food, water, ammo, and trade goods. You’re gonna need it.
Odd that I’ve had a published land line phone #, registered voter, USPS address but I’ve never been contacted by a single pollster.
Yes, guns and ammo may become more valuable than gold
If not, it may become an inheritance to pass to your children/g’children.
Canned goods, don’t forget them.
Yup, just bought what I call my SHTF gun. An AR-556. And 1,000 rounds of 5.56. I’ll be ready.
I miss my guns.
That shark shooting trip ouside of Galveston really turned South when that rogue wave flipped all of us upside down…
I rarely talked about them online as the walls have ears and they belong to a lot of those super agents the IRS is training to find all you MAGA fascists’ and put you in reeducation camps where you will learn to eat bugs, to speak only when the proctor designates your time and ran by Bill and Melinda Gates….
I miss them so bad !!!
Polls… only a mite biased toward Democrats:
Uh huh !!!
Dig that crazy Chick: Who wears Short Shorts, we wear short shorts, their not shorts……..
My take on gun control is strict enforcement of existing law, swift prosecution of those that violate gun law, and no plea bargain in gun charges. Make it hurt.
This is my answer, every time I’m asked. I’m asked surprisingly often. I think that means I spend too much time around soft-headed people.
Maybe you should spend more time around softed hearted people, OAM. You know…like the ones whose hearts you caused to melt. 😘
Agree. Seattle recently had a 17 yo observed by undercover cops dealing meth and fentanyl to multiple individuals downtown. They busted him and found on him a Glock and a dealer quantity possession amount of meth, heroin and fentanyl. Juvy Judge released him to his mother. 2 weeks go by and he’s again observed in the same location dealing the same drugs. Busted and found this time to be in possession of a Ruger. In court mother shrugs her shoulders at the same Judge so this time he gets an ankle bracelet for monitoring.
Bottom line is he’s not looking at any consequences in Seattle.
My idea of “gun control” is using both hands and hitting the target.
I don’t recall any pollster asking me about anything let alone guns. Don’t know anyone who has either.
“OK, she’s a repeat. I like brunettes. I get to pick the pic, so there.”
Well, well. That didn’t take long.
*grin*
Inside every editor is a petty dictator longing to get out.
heh. Wait ’till you get “awarded” Admin.
Since when have liberal media outlets polled anywhere other than NYC, LA or San Foo-foo?
Don’t forget Washington D[egenerate]C[lusterfuck].
There is also Boston.and its suburbs. That’s where Hahvahd is…
“In every disaster in American history, there always seems to be a man from Harvard in the middle of it.” – Dr. Thomas Sowell
HARVARD SCHOOL CHEER
H – A – R, H – A – R, with a V
V – A – R, V – A – R, with a D
Hahvahd men are really tough,
they know how to knit and stuff.
Knit one, pearl two,
Hahvahd – YOO HOO!
Oh, to dig a little and see what is going on in Flyover Country, the pollsters will sometimes go to any college/university where Wokeism prevails.
CINC Household walked through as I was looking at the girl I mean the gun…….
Hmmmm, oops!
I’ve never been polled in regards to guns, nor have any of my gun friends. Hell I even asked my guns and they’ve never been polled either.
So who be the ones they polled….? All I hear is crickets!
If you make up the facts, they will come!
Every time a new gun control law is proposed, it’s an admission that previous control laws don’t work.
But I’m sure that THIS time it will /s
The election in Nevada 2016 regarding Question 1: Universal Background Checks was interesting in many ways besides what the article mentions. There was a law that was passed during the previous election that gave the DMV the authority to automatically register anyone that used DMV services to vote. Within days of the final election results of 2016 roughly 10,000 illegal immigrants were listed to vote while being ineligible and there is no voter ID requirement. Question 1 passed by a margin of less than 1000 votes. Hillary and numerous Democrats won the state with less than 10,000 votes. Furthermore, Question 1 was unenforceable as written and had to go back to the Legislature and pass both Houses with new language before it could be signed into law. That would’ve taken 6 more years. Newly elected Democratic Governor Sisolak disregarded the legal requirements and signed off on it in the middle of the night without discussion. He did the same with the state’s red flag law in 2018.
Gropey Joe just said that if the D-rats hold the house and get two more senators in the mid-terms, he plans to sponsor legislation to ban all semi-automatic weapons. That ought to be interesting to implement, since possibly half the firearms in the nation are semi-auto. But then their secret wish is to confiscate all firearms from all citizens. Of course, the criminals will keep their guns, cuz when they are inclined to commit murder, robbery, and rape, a gun charge means little to them. You have pavement predators as young as 13 carrying semi-auto pistols in every major city.