New Rules for Trans Troops

| March 31, 2021

Its taken only a couple of months for the new POTUS to end the Trump administration’s military transgender ban, and for the Pentagon to enact new rules for their service. Transgender troops who meet military standards may now serve openly in their self-identified gender. How this will improve readiness and lethality has been left unsaid.

David sends.

Reversing Trump, Pentagon to release new transgender policy

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon on Wednesday will sweep away Trump-era policies that largely banned transgender people from serving in the military, issuing new rules that offer them wider access to medical care and assistance with gender transition, defence officials told The Associated Press.

The new department regulations allow transgender people who meet military standards to enlist and serve openly in their self-identified gender, and they will be able to get medically necessary transition-related care authorized by law, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal decisions not yet made public.

The changes come after a two-month Pentagon review aimed at developing guidelines for the new policy, which was announced by President Joe Biden just days after he took office in January.

Biden’s executive order overturned the Trump policy and immediately prohibited any service member from being forced out of the military on the basis of gender identity. Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin then gave the Pentagon two months to finalize the more detailed regulations that the military services will follow.

The new rules also prohibit discrimination based on gender identity. Their expected release Wednesday coincides with International Transgender Day of Visibility.

The reasons this is A Very Bad Idea have been discussed at length, yet here we are. While wishing to serve our country is admirable, there are physical and mental conditions that disqualify one’s participation. People suffering from gender dysphoria need professional help, not enabled to the detriment of others. Read the article here: Fox 5 DC
Thanks, David.

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  1. OWB says:

    No surprise here. Anything which reduces military readiness, distracts from training war fighters, or diverts funds away from military effectiveness is the goal of those currently in charge.

  2. Claw says:

    Hey, Fox 5 DC, you are a NO-GO at this station. Too early.

    April Fool’s Day isn’t until tomorrow./s

  3. Berliner says:

    Saw recently in the Stars and Stripes the Army will soon follow the Air Force in allowing females in all uniforms, not just PT, to display pony tails and braided pony tails. Waiting for the other 57 genders to scream “DISCRIMINATION!!!”

    • SFC D says:

      It’s already done. I haven’t seen ponytails in uniform yet (outside of PT) but I’m seeing a lot of earrings.

  4. Dustoff says:

    Somewhere, they’ res a PLA/KPA Brigade Commander laughing his ass off, thinking “They’re making this too easy”.

  5. MarineDad61 says:

    Ok, I’ll say it.

    Many are TOO POOR to PAY for their actions and decisions.
    This is a green light to sign up, complete basic training, get MOS trained,
    and then show up at the 1st duty station in need (want) of
    FREE elective medical care.

    Trouble is, it’s not free.
    And the cost of this care outweighs the whole calculation of salary and benefits paid for services rendered… to our nation.

    There, I said it.

    • MarineDad61 says:

      Does anyone remember (before my time)
      when BAQ was paid on a chart by # of dependents?
      And, when BAQ changed from the # chart to a double column chart of
      “with dependents” or without?

      I clearly remember serving alongside (under) the last vestiges of mid and senior enlisted types, who married a dependa, pumped out 6 or more units, and spent their last years trying to get to 20 years bitching about getting screwed.
      The octo moms, budget limited, bitched even louder.

      For some odd reason, today’s news and topic
      made me think of these bennie seekers of the 70s and 80s.
      More, I think of the “bang for the buck”,
      what they put in, and what they got out.
      Many were unimpressive, and lucky to just have a job.
      Which, I can guess, continued to be a problem in their post retirement civilian lives, even with the retirement half check in the pocket.
      Ugh.

      • Claw says:

        The BAQ pay differences of One, Two, or Three or more Number of Dependents was deleted effective 1 Jan 72.

        • rgr769 says:

          Sir Claw of Claw Manor, as the most knowledgeable supply daddy here, do you know the FSN for breast implants? Cuz the services are going to be purchasing significant numbers of them. And pretty soon, they will have to be stocked with an FSN, if they don’t have one already. All the He-to-She’s will undoubtedly want boob-o-plasties to go with their lopadickoffamies.

      • ninja says:

        MarineDad61:

        As long as I can remember, a Soldier was either paid BAQ “With Dependents” or “Without Dependents”.

        Have personally never seen numbers associated “With Dependents”.

        When did this happen?

        • MarineDad61 says:

          ninja,
          It was gone long before 1984,
          when I was hearing the complaints
          from section E-6 and E-7 types.
          Claw above says 1972, which is likely correct.
          I had thought it was late 70s.

    • Poetrooper says:

      I read somewhere that the reason so many male trannies become drag queen/prostitutes is to earn enough to pay for their transitioning surgery, so you’re spot-on with your assessment, MarineDad.

      So let the taxpayer pick up that tab and by all means let’s salt the ranks with hardened prostitutes.

      What could possibly go wrong?

  6. Sparks says:

    This is just SO wrong, again.

  7. SFC D says:

    I can count the number of reasons this is a good idea on zero fingers. Although I do have one particular finger to display to the president (lowercase “p” is absolutely intentional) and his puppetmasters. Nothing good can come of this. And the first person that compares it to allowing blacks and openly gay Soldiers needs to be pilloried and publicly beaten. It is nowhere near the same thing.

    • MarineDad61 says:

      SFC D,
      The same liberals who cry apples and oranges (especially anything orange)
      seem to eat, drink, and cry from the Fruit Of The Loom.

    • rgr769 says:

      He is not really a president. He is a meat puppet marionet. Proggy 0bamabots are writing his scripts for the TOTUS. Valerie Jarret is likely calling shots and Jill and the minders are pulling the strings.

    • JoMack says:

      Lower case “p” is correct, but the following “r” should be capitalized. As in “pResident” to note the correct status of the individual.

  8. ninja says:

    Released by the White House today (31 March 2021):

    “A Proclamation on Transgender Day Of Visibility, 2021”

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/03/31/a-proclamation-on-transgender-day-of-visibility-2021/

    That means the White House should not have any problems with this “Making America Great Again” video featuring Ricky Rebel……right?

    *grin*

    • Sparks says:

      So then, we have a Proclamation Day for a minuscule sliver of the population who either don’t know, can’t figure out, or decide whether they are men or women.

      That’s just great! How about a day for men who think they are women and one for women who think they are men.

      The absurdity is running rampant now and portends to get only worse.

      • Hack Stone says:

        What about a day for senior executives of federal contracting companies who think they are Navy SEALs?

  9. ninja says:

    So what happens in real world war situations (field showers if set up) or in garrison training situations (such as basic training in hard buildings) where there are community showers for the same gender to share…

    Will there be a “Crying Game” episode?

    https://www.ign.com/videos/2011/07/15/the-crying-game-that-scene

    Will a Soldier be given hormone treatment while in a combat situation or will they be responsible for bringing and self medicating on their own (similar to Soldiers taking Blood Pressure medication on a daily basis).

    What happens if that medication is gone while in a combat situation? What if the medication gets misplaced? Will a field pharmacy carry that type of medication to issue to Soldiers?

    There is definitely a lot of medical maintenance that is needed to ensure a male Soldier stays a female Soldier or a female Soldier stays a male Soldier.

    And who will pay for that? 3…2…1…

    Still wondering if Biden’s Assistant Secretary of Health has his/her original package that God gave him/her at birth….

    • ninja says:

      “According to the Pentagon, the department spent about $8 million on transgender care from 2016 to 2019. The military’s annual health care budget tops $50 billion. All four service chiefs told Congress in 2018 that they had seen no discipline, morale or unit readiness problems with transgender troops serving openly in the military. But they also acknowledged that some commanders were spending a lot of time with transgender people who were working through medical requirements and other transition issues.”

    • Sparks says:

      Field showers, yea that’s going to be the turd in the punch bowl.

      A bunch of gals is in the showers in varying states of undress when in walks the 6 foot 2 tranny with his swinging dick in full…swing. Do the gals get to say they are not comfortable with this person who self-identifies as a woman showing his crank to them? Or will they be chastised for being tranny-phobic, insensitive to a fellow girl soldier, and on their way to an Article 15?

      The same goes for the men when a tranny comes in showing her stuff because she’s a man after all.

      Just ludicrous.

      • rgr769 says:

        Well, the prison system has already had this experiment. There are several instances where male to female trannies demanded they be put in women’s prisons. The authorities complied and put the fake chicks with dicks in the girls’ joints. One case resulted in a female inmate pregnancy, another in a rape of a female prisoner. So, what could go wrong?

      • timactual says:

        Whatever happened to all the concern about “hostile work environment” and “sexual harassment”? Can’t tell an off color joke but you can walk around with your genitalia hanging out.

      • Green Thumb says:

        Double standard for women.

        They will not get in trouble.

    • Anonymous says:

      Those expecting the coed shower scene from Starship Troopers will be sorely disappointed.

      • rgr769 says:

        Yeah, these hairy boobless dykes are not going to look like swimsuit models, even if they still have vajayjays. Then think about the Franken-penises our guys will be exposed to witness in the showers, after these freaks have fully trannied-out post surgery.

  10. 5JC says:

    If you to MEPS and need back surgery they don’t let you join.. Not sure why they are allowed to join with this preexisting medical condition.

    We are talking about a tiny fraction of the US population. Instead of OMFG it is end of the world I am curious about actual numbers and impacts.

    • SFC D says:

      MEPS kicked me back in 1987 for a hernia I didn’t know I had. I had to get it repaired, on my dime, in order to enlist. I had no idea I was a victim of unfair discrimination. I want reparations! Gimme my free shit!

  11. AW1 Rod says:

    And the hysterical laughter by our enemies continues.

  12. ninja says:

    A bit off topic, but a bit indirectly related…(Will stand in the corner under the supervision of AW1Ed for hijacking this thread…)

    Are US Army Soldiers not getting paid enough that it came down to this? (Check out their Mugshots).

    What am I missing?

    “Two JBLM Soldiers Arrested For Robbing, Kidnapping A Pizza Delivery Driver At Gunpoint”

    https://www.stripes.com/news/us/two-jblm-soldiers-arrested-for-robbing-kidnapping-a-pizza-delivery-driver-at-gunpoint-1.667870

    “Two Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldiers were arrested Sunday in Olympia, Wash., after using handguns and a knife to rob a pizza delivery driver and force him into the backseat of a vehicle, according to local police.”

    “Pfcs. Daniel Cano-Real, 19, and John Medina, 20, are charged with first-degree robbery and kidnapping and were listed Tuesday as inmates at Thurston County Jail with bond set at $150,000.”

    “Officers with the Olympia Police Department pulled over a vehicle at about 12:45 a.m. Sunday for driving the wrong way on a one-way street in downtown Olympia and found the two soldiers and a 19-year-old man inside, said Lt. Paul Lower, a police spokesman. One soldier was driving with a Domino’s pizza box sitting in the passenger seat. The other soldier was in the backseat with a man wearing a Domino’s T-shirt.”

    “Further investigation revealed the two soldiers, both armed with a handgun, accosted the driver after he made a pizza delivery at a residence and stole his money. They then forced him into the backseat of their vehicle while one of the soldiers drove the delivery driver’s car into a ditch.”

    • David says:

      There have always been and always will be dumbass idiots in every branch. The trick is to weed them out.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      Check the on-base Hinesville Bank robbery at Ft Stewart, 1987 (or 88)

      An acquaintance was a responding MP. I was nearby.

      Stocking masks and BDUs with name tapes.

      One shot at the MPs, and the MPs shot lots back. One fool got lobotomized by 38, the other got 20 years.

  13. ChipNASA says:

    I don’t know where to put this so I’ll put this here…(the video, steal it and use it elsewhere as you desire…)

    As has been said….”NO, You can’t have a pony transgenders in the military, NOT YOURS…
    BAD. IDEA.

    • ninja says:

      Am gonna say it.

      Makes one wonder what type of parents raised these spoiled, selfish brats…and what type of parents they will end up being…

      🤔

    • Commie-Tsar says:

      WHY DON’T YOU HAVE MY VIDEO UP THERE!!!!! I get the vapors when I don’t get it my way!!!

      • ChipNASA says:

        I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR VIDEO IS!!!!??!!!!
        Please share and I’m certain we can obligey’.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Next time, Chip, add an “Extreme Annoying Idiots” warning tag.

      Gawd.

  14. Sparks says:

    AW1Ed correctly stated, “How this will improve readiness and lethality has been left unsaid”.

    I believe it is left unsaid because the White House and the Democrats do not want a true fighting force anymore. They believe every threat and every enemy can be negotiated with or bought off Iran style. So there is no need for a fighting force anymore.

    The problem with their mindset to me is that they disregard ALL history prior to Inauguration Day. It’s a new, sparkling, shining world to them.

    In truth, there will be more conflicts and potentially, considering our adversaries, a full-blown war. Remember, the Dems never met a war they didn’t like. The issue is, they do it Clinton style like Somalia and other places or Obama style with Benghazi. They start and either pull out far too soon or send them in and abandon them.

    Adding this new transgender crap to the mix will only diminish our fighting force and NEVER enhance it. We will be a militarily weaker nation because of this.

    And our enemies are watching closely.

  15. ninja says:

    So…

    How does a Soldier get scored on a PT test?

    If the Soldier is still physically a Male, but now self relates as a Female, does it means that Soldier scores as a Female (which means they will do less in a category?)

    Am not familiar with the current US Army PT test…what I do remember is that we had to do pushups/situps in so many mintes and run 2 miles..our score was based on our gender and age and the standards for women were lower because in reality, men can physically do better in pushups and running (I think women did better in the situps).

    Is this not similiar to transgender high school students who perform better in track, i.e. they are still physically male competing with females, but are allowed to join a female track team?

    And if these Soldiers do have a successful Military career and retire…does this mean for the rest of their lives the US Taxpayer will continue to pay for maintaining them.i.e. hormone therapy?

    Asking For A Friend.

    • Prior Service says:

      The new ACFT has six events: deadlift, power throw (of a 10lb ball), hand-release push-ups, a sprint-drag-carry, knee tucks (similar to pull-ups), and a two mile run. It has no age or gender scoring. However, because the vast majority of females have been failing the knee tucks, it now has an alternate event, the plank.

  16. Ex-PH2 says:

    So this means that the psychotic twits who make these decisions refuse to recognize that XX genes and XY genes are different from teach other?

    Denial of reality is a clear sign of insanity.

    I guess I have to have a cast iron skillet with me when I go into the bathroom from now on, right?

    • rgr769 says:

      Either that or get “strapped” as your Shotcago south-siders would say. Then when confronted and assaulted by a fake chick with a dick (dude with fake tits) you can shoot him/sher/it in the wang wang with your bang bang.

  17. NHSparky says:

    Meh…qualified to enlist.

    MEPS docs will take care of that.

    “Says here you’ve had thoughts of suicide.”

    “Yes, well….”

    “Have a nice day, go find your recruiter, don’t come back. NEXT!”

  18. KoB says:

    If you want an addadicktomy or a lopadickoffamy, fine, do it…it’s your junk. But don’t make me pay for it…or the multitudes of drugs you have to take later on. I don’t even want to pay the Military nervous doctors that are going to have to treat you for your mental disorders either.

    Oh, and btw, I don’t want to have to pay for you murdering you unwanted babies either. Or the ones you spit out an a regular basis. I’m already paying for your food, housing, utilities, birth control and on and on and on….

  19. Smitty says:

    The same Army Times that reported this also had an article that SOCOM thinks they have too many white males, so they want more women and people of color. Maybe this tranny thing is the solution to that shortage?? But I doubt they’ll get many volunteers.

    • Poetrooper says:

      Well aren’t sex-change surgeries considered special operations? 😜

    • Green Thumb says:

      A lot of folks will die if the qualification of “merit” is moved to the back of the line.

      It will not last long.

  20. Mason says:

    Here’s the SecDef’s memo on the topic of “International Transgender Visibility Day.” Don’t hurt yourself rolling your eyes.

    Right click and open image in new tab if you want a closer look.

    • ChipNASA says:

      I’m glad I’m out.
      This is some real bullshit.
      Seriously.
      From the The Hemisphere of Insults®™ and from my own insults and other commentary, “my eyes rolled so hard I saw my own brain stem…”

      • Green Thumb says:

        Word.

        Me too.

        I don’t really have an issue with the Transgender thing, could care less. I have an open mind.

        But this is silly. Particularly in the military.

        Paying for a medical procedure and you cannot “kick in”.

        Bullshit.

    • E4 Mafia '83-'87 says:

      Why is this a day? Don’t you always hear people from these groups say, “I just want to be treated like everybody else”? I know to defend this nation we need to cast a wide net to find the best & brightest individuals, but why are we setting up for failure? I mean, imagine a group that is 4 times more likely to attempt suicide, may be undeployable for up to 2 years, and will out when the next Republican President takes command in 2024. Sound like a recipe for combat effectiveness?

  21. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    Remember when “Lola” was just a goofy song on the radio?

  22. Hack Stone says:

    So, in the unlikely event that a transgender troop finally finishes all of their medical and psychological treatment to transition and can now deploy worldwide, to include combat zones, will President Biden demand that our adversaries treat American captives by the gender their identity by? Moot question, because they will never be in a deplorable deployable status. Don’t worry, that Staff Sergeant who just completed his third combat tour in four years will pick up the slack. His kids won’t miss him, since they never met him.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Heh. Freudian slip fixed, Hack. Although “deplorable” is an accurate description of their status.

  23. Stacy0311 says:

    So .3% of your troops are now going to be 90% of your problem (.3% based on “surveys”)

    In related news, the E4 Mafia will now claim to be female in order to take advantage of gender normed percentiles on ACFT 3.0

    Going to go on a rant now.

    It’s not just this policy/program.
    It’s the whole diversity, extremism, SJW focus of the New Model Army.
    It’s not enough to support these policies/programs (even if you’re just mouthing the slogans and signing the sign in rosters at the PowerPoint briefings).
    Nope. You are now expected to be the most enthusiastic cheerleader for this manifest stupidity. And God help you if you’re the first one to stop clapping, let alone point out what a raging shitshow dumpster fire the whole thing is.

    It’s seriously starting to look like I’m not going to make it to LTC and 40 years.

    And this rate, I’ll be lucky to avoid a court martial and a few years at the Leavenworth Gravel Company

  24. Bob Delta says:

    So no more only male/female berthing and heads?

    Name edited to protect PII.
    AW1