Renowned Epidemiologist Alyssa Milano Opines.
Expert Evaluates Protection Benefit Potential
Activist and actress Alyssa Milano says people who disagree with mask mandates are the same who think they need an AR-15 for “protection.” Normally this assessment would be surprising, as there are no conceivable common protection characteristics shared by cloth masks and firearms in general, or AR-15s in particular. Ms. Milano also has never darkened the door of any institution of higher learning, where such knowledge is concealed in objects known as “books.”
None of that matters. According to Wiki, she’s an “actress, producer, author, and political activist” so crass biology and engineering expertise be dammed. Our own Poetrooper sends. Sort of.
ALYSSA MILANO TRIES COMPARING MASKS TO AR-15S AND IT’S ALL SORTS OF STUPID
BRODIGAN
2020 is the year Alyssa Milano lost her mind. Flipped her gourd. The lights are on but there’s no one home watching the Charmed reboot. Whether you’re happy or sad about this depends upon if you grew up with Samantha Micelli. Or whatever her character’s name was in Embrace of the Vampire. For the former actress turned slacktivist, being locked down in her house was too much. Some of us coped by making banana bread and TikTok videos. She ranted on Twitter and called the cops over a squirrel.
Today’s brain nugget combines the best of both worlds: New-school talking points with old-school anti-gun zealotry.
Read the rest of the article here: Louder With Crowder
Actually Poe sent us this link: Breitbart. I like Breitbart and it’s articles are frequent fliers here at TAH. That article is entirely too serious though, and some Wallyhood twit’s opinion on anything beyond entertaining me is many things except serious.
Thanks, Poe.
Category: "Teh Stoopid"
She had nice tits in her First lesbian scene but not
much else going on there since then.
As I have been told, tits does not a woman make.
The desire and ability to raise, clean, cook great food, then desire and ability to shoot, maintain rifles, pistols.
Everything else is noise.
(IMHO)
*sigh*
Da fook am I going to do with you, Beans? Can’t take you anywhere.
Her youth has run out and she’s in dire need of attention. Yes, she has a husband and children but that’s not enough.
The obvious question here is…Would IDC SARC still hit it?
I’d harpoon her with the vengeance of Cap’n Ahab.
You’re a poet.
Dude…
“From hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee. …”
There’s a term for this.
Porno, Porno, Porno Patrol
Any ol port in a storm
Any old hole
From Galaxina
IDC SARC, let me be the first.
“Thar she blows!” (grin)
This is what she would tell IDC SARC:
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Aw shit:
Glad I didn’t have anything in my mouth.
I’ll take “Words never spoken by Alyssa Milano” for 1000 Pat.
Alyssa Milano is living proof that not all airheads are blond.
Gag.
Isn’t she one of those that demand that we “follow the science?” Well, yeah, that is exactly what we should do. When will they start doing that? Huh, huh??
She’s also the idiot that wore a crocheted mask…
I’d wear a crocheted or knitted mask just to piss off Karen & Karl. Within the letter of the demands (not law, not regulation)(cover nose and face), yet as useless as a screen door on a submarine.
She’s not thinking with the larger brain.
SOP for her peers.
Alyssa who?
Funny how she stopped “believing all women” the moment Rapey Joe’s accuser spoke up.
You are more likely to die of a Covid than from any threat you can stop with the AR-15 you have at home.
The mask will significantly reduce the chance of being infected with a Covid 19.
Her math checks out.
I have the empiric data and information from my “Asian contacts” to prove it you all of you!
You mean your ChiCom handler, Ms. Fang’s replacement?
Well I have already had the wuflu, and survived, without a mask…….so there is that
Sorry to ruin your fantasy, Lars, but she’s not gonna give you a pity-fuck. Given an overall survival rate well in excess of 99%, plus my decent overall health and physical condition, I’m not especially afraid of the bug unleashed by your Sinosocialist heroes.
You remain an idiot. Thanks for playing.
You’re more likely to die in a communist takeover of part of a major metropolitan area than you are The Worst Cold Ever.
I’ll keep my freedom tools, you can have that barren husk of a washed up actress.
Your side’s days of hiding behind the mask are numbered. Plan accordingly. Tick tock.
Time
Is
Running
Out.
You really missed the point of this, didn’t you. At least you’re consistent. Still a fraud.
Wearing a mask provides only a modest degree of protection for the one wearing it. One article I’ve seen in a medical journal indicates 15-20% reduction in infection rates for similar illnesses was observed among those wearing N95 masks. I’ve linked the article in comments made several months ago.
The protection wearing a mask provides is largely for others nearby. It dramatically reduces (80% or so, if I recall the article correctly) the number of small aerial droplets produced that can drift in the air and infect others when the mask wearer coughs or sneezes.
I do rather like that others around me wear their masks. Have always been pretty careful when around strangers just because it made sense to avoid whatever germs they might have with them.
And was VERY glad recently that a fellow in a waiting room was reasonably well covered when he coughed up a hairball. I was grateful to be about as far from him as the room allowed. He had the good grace to apologize to the room, as he adjusted his O2 tank. He also carefully disposed of his tissues and did not touch anything when he was called into the inner sanctums.
Some times you just have to get out and about. I fully realize that there is much more involved than a mask to protect myself from this, or any other, disease. Still, I will take the added little bit of protection that the mask affords me and others. A couple of percent difference? Maybe, but it takes minimal effort that I can add to the other small efforts I am making to keep myself healthy.
“…was reasonably well covered when he coughed up a hairball.”
You at the vet?
Not this time. Occasionally, we do visit another type of doc.
The difference between an R0 of 1.1 and an R0 of 0.9 is tens of millions of people infected and hundreds of thousands of deaths.
In fact an R0 of 0.9 means the virus dies out in months.
While an R0 of 1.1 is exponential growth.
Masks work, masks saves lives…
If Trump had his cult has just promoted mask use he would have won the election.
True, but that’s not the point you were arguing.
In your reply above, you’re telling people to wear masks to protect themselves. If that wasn’t your intent, the statement you made is quite poorly worded.
You are actually correct, however – but for a different reason. As I noted, wearing a mask provides only a small amount of additional protection for the wearer.
However, many if not most viral diseases spread by aerosol droplet have a prodrome phase. During the prodrome phase, people are typically only mildly symptomatic to asymptomatic – but they are often quite contagious. (If I recall correctly, Lincoln is suspected to have been in the prodrome phase for smallpox when he gave the Gettysburg Address.)
Wearing a mask when not known to be sick would in turn cover the prodrome phase. That would reduce (but not eliminate) the spread of disease originating from people who were asymptomatic but infectious. It would do so by dramatically reducing the number of infectious aerosol droplets they shed to the air around them.
Bottom line: wearing a mask is probably a good idea. But doing it primarily protects others if you happen to be infected but not yet clinically symptomatic. It only provides a small degree of protection to you.
Ro is the number of people that will contract a contagious disease from someone with said disease.
It is not a direct measure of how soon a disease will die out or long a disease will last.
Ro of 0.9=contagious person is going to transmit the disease to 0.9 people.
Ro of 1.1=contagious person is going to transmit the disease to 1.1 people.
COVID estimates place it’s Ro at 5.7.
https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number#covid-19-r-0
For comparison Small Pox had an Ro between 3.5-6 with a mortality rate of around 30%.
COVID has an Ro of around 5.7 with a mortality rate of about 1.5% worldwide.
If you’re going to use hard science terms please use them correctly.
Party of “science” indeed.
Minor quibble: for a contagious disease, R0 is defined the basic reproduction number at time zero when a new disease is introduced into an immunologically-naïve population. After time zero, it technically no longer exists.
After time zero the applicable term is the effective reproduction number, Re. Re is not a constant, but is a function of time and is also affected by other environmental and social factors; it thus varies from one population to the next (as does R0, for that matter). For a given population, Re is initially R0 (at time zero) and stays near that value for a while, but then begins to decline.
Re naturally drops as herd immunity develops. It drops as as part of the population develops immunity, either naturally or via vaccination. Eventually enough of the population develops immunity for Re to drop below 1 and the outbreak dies out – although absent universal immunity, there is always the possibility for recurrence sparked by isolated cases that may persist and spread among those not immune.
The Wikipedia article entitled “basic reproduction number” is actually a good one, and although it contains math is rather easy to follow.
Pointing to Ro as the sole indicator for the length of disease outbreak or its severity is lazy thinking at best.
I pointed out small pox to clarify this example. While they have similar Ro, the mortality rate is shockingly different.
Or we could look at measles with an Ro of around 12. Double that of small pox and COVID-19. Yet it’s mortality rate is much closer to COVID than small pox.
Ro is not an indicator of the overall severity or length of an outbreak. It’s a very specific measure of a very specific thing. Applying this unit of measure to something else is deceptive at best.
This is an example of him cherry picking information with a clear intent to deceive.
My point in bringing up the R0/Re distinction was to point out that even supposed “experts” often oversimplify. I rather doubt our “amigo” here knew the difference, and it’s possible he might yet not grasp it.
Regarding smallpox and measles, I agree in part. But remember: measles had a much higher mortality rate when first introduced into the New World because like smallpox it was previously unknown in the Western Hemisphere. Due to that fact, like smallpox it hit the Native American population in the Americas very hard – much harder than it did Eurasian and African populations who’d seen it before. I believe the same was true in Polynesia as well when it first arrived in some of the isolated island societies there.
Smallpox – or Ebola/Marburg, which have an even higher fatality rate than smallpox – and any new/emerging highly communicable contagious diseases that are found to have a similar fatality rate are the ones that worry the hell out of me. Something like the Wuhan coronavirus is unfortunate, but for society it’s survivable.
An epidemic of a highly contagious disease having a 1-2% mortality isn’t a society killer. But one with 30% to 50% mortality? That could well be a very different story.
I’m not disagreeing with you.
My point is der dumbass throwing out a complex metric like Ro (which can vary quite a bit depending on which model is used) to predict the outcome of a pandemic is completely inappropriate and clearly an attempt to use word salad in an attempt to silence dissent.
As an aside, what’s your opinion on biopreperat?
Also, if you haven’t read it I would really recommend “A Higher Form of Killing” by Harris and Paxman.
Short answer: if Alibek’s book on the subject was even remotely close to accurate, we may have a helluva lot more to worry about than terrorists getting their hands on diverted/stolen enriched uranium or plutonium. And IMO the nuclear possibility is far less of a worry.
One nuke can take out a city – assuming you have the ability to build it even given the materials and plans (not exactly an easy task). A small canister – say, 100 grams or so – of the proper weaponized agent, properly dispersed, could start an epidemic that can take down at a minimum multiple cities – or an entire nation.
There is a reason it is called “Poor man’s nuke”.
But hard to dodge your own bio-weapon. Also, the USA policy of response with real nukes is just sitting there.
So yes, this fiasco just gave everyone needed data. And the crazies are taking notes.
“If Trump had his cult has just promoted mask use he would have won the election.”
Does that include Saint Fauci, who for months told people not to wear masks?
In addition, all the numbers being cited only address the transmission of a disease like Covid. None of them address the dangers of long-term 24/7 wearing of masks.
Stop.
Just stop.
You’re showing yet again you know fuck-all about covid, epidemiology, or pretty much anything else.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-scientist.com/features/why-r0-is-problematic-for-predicting-covid-19-spread-67690/amp
Her math only checks out in her preferred frame of reference. You willing to bet your mask against an armed pissed opponent 25 yards away? Or would you rather have a firearm? Which would you want whilst drowning? It all depends on the situation you are in at any particular point in time. Her comparison is as faulty as your logic.
Moronic anecdotical hypotheticals are moronic.
^ coming from the guy that wished Boomers would catch COVID and die from it
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=96866#comment-3279483
https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=96866#comment-3279504
Not me, I already had the flu. Chance of dying from it now is essentially 0. Chance of me needing an AR15 to defend myself again is much, much higher, probably around 50% in the next three years.
Let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story.
You do not have a 50% chance of needing an AR15 to defend yourself in the next three years, you paranoid nutcase.
You may be correct, it is likely higher than that. Based upon the last 6 years as a LEO I have used it four times in that time period so it is probably higher.
So far as being a paranoid nutcase, well I’d be the last to know if that were true so you may be on to something there. But I imagine like most things that you write on a length your ignorance is simply showing.
I’d guess that’s gonna leave a mark . . . . (smile)
I suspect that there are several here who might comment on deploying Mr Stoner’s handiwork to defend home from hooligan.
They work.
You do not know that. You cannot know that. You don’t understand the present, let alone foresee the future. Fraud.
So since I already had COVID, ‘rona, Hong Kong Flu, General Tso’s Sicken and survived (albeit with some serious lung scaring) I guess I should get an AR15?
I mean, the numbers are there
Yeah.
Might as well.
So tell me, dipshit, when 80 percent of infections are traced back to HOME contact, where masks are rarely if ever worn, how is that going to slow the spread?
Seems to me my HS (and college) Calculus teachers showed (and proved) that the area under a curve of two functions remains the same. Simply put, the TOTAL number of infections is going to be the same regardless of the speed of the spread.
The only thing that masks, isolation, etc., serve to do is keep from overwhelming medical facilities with critical cases. And last I checked, we’re on day 287 of, “15 days to slow the spread.” All we’re doing now is torturing the healthy with loss of employment, isolation, and mental cruelty on a societal scale.
You go, boy!
Does her carbon foot print “check out” with her lifestyle?
You dumbass mask-hole. STFU!
Also, she still looks great.
Ugly as a busted blister on the inside. And incredibly stupid, naive, and gullible. Your dream girl.
Well at least she is good for something.
She is one of the hottest celebrities of my generation.
I would agree with you on that.
WAS..fixed it for you.
I could name a dozen celebs of her age I’d rather clap cheeks with before I’d ever consider her.
But hey, you do you.
Was. Just like so many occupations you dabbled in. And, just like you, she’s a fraud and has-been struggling for relevance.
And compared to Fang Fang?
There’s more to it than aesthetics. She can follow her own politics, that’s her right. However, she is a hypocrite and liar and that makes her ugly. Additionally (as stated in the article) she hasn’t the education to spout her opinion to the ignorant people that think rich and famous equal intelligence. I don’t think that you have to have a college degree to be intelligent, but I also don’t believe that being rich and famous makes you intelligent.Too many of our citizens will accept the word from that later rather than the former. That is sad.
I have never been one to conflate intelligence and education. Earning a degree has done nothing to change this.
Correctamundo, AW. A significant percentage of my law school class who passed the Bar exam couldn’t successfully prosecute a dog bite case (strict liability against the dog owner) in Small Claims Court.
Agreed. That’s what I was attempting to say. Formal education doesn’t make someone smart. But playing pretend for a living doesn’t either.
Alyssa talks to hear her brains rattle…
To an 80-year-old…
That is sexist! And how do you know her pronoun is “she”?
Last time I cared what she’s said I didn’t.
Go back to The Old World if you’ve aversions to freedom and liberty, dumbass.
She does love her armed security… guns for me but not thee!
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/05/hollywood_actress_attends_antigun_protest_with_armed_bodyguards.html
Moron.
Call Blimey love a duck, If Military “STYLE” rifles only belong on the battlefield, then how come the Brown Besse’s and Kentucky long rifles were ok in the hands of citizens away back when.?????????
She’s not your average, libnorant Wallyhood celebretard. No, no! This vacuous, empty-headed life support system for a vagina has achieved Idiot Superstar status. She even makes Micheal Moore-on look like a member of Mensa.
“Empty-headed life support system for a vagina”
Wow. That is Epic. Bravo sir, bravo.
I was raised to be too much of a lady to ever repeat that one … except quietly with girlfriends. While consuming wine. Because doing so will make them spew. Yes, it’s a contest we have with one another.
Thank you for giving me the winning phrase.
Don’t forget the “Vacuous” lead in to the phrase. It sets the tone and tempo!
Agreed, but I’d probably lose points for redundancy.
This is serious stuff! It’s a real contest, with points and prizes.
“Vacuous, empty-headed life support system for a vagina”. I’m stealing this.
AKA…twunt
THAT insult needs to be added to the HoI.
And maybe change the name from HoI (Hemisphere of Insults) to GoI (Globe of Insults).