ShutDown DC Advising Federal Employees on Aiding Their Movement

| November 2, 2020

Oh please. Like none of you walk around naked and smoking crack in front of underage girls. Everyone does it. Total nothing burger. (TheDonald.win)

Here is a Zoom chat meeting involving ShutDown DC giving advice to federal employees. One idea is that these employees could subtly use their position to provide tail winds for the movement. A second theme is that these employees slow down government response if the movement gets out of hand.

Some comments from the side:

…civil servants. You are being asked to report on the loyalty of your colleagues and to demonstrate your own loyalty by signing an oath of loyalty to President Trump and to certify that you will not participate in anti-Trump activities, even outside of work. 3. Political appointees are hastily cementing their legacy by pushing through bad policy, de-funding projects they don’t like, and funding their special interests. You suspect some of this activity is corrupt or in violation of federal regulations.

…Heads up there are almost certainly infiltrators on this call. Take whatever measures you need to.

…If he wins, I think we all need to double down to combat the amount of unethical and blatantly illegal activities federal employees will be asked to conduct in a second term.

…Proper scenario planning requires planning for the possibility the current administration could continue.

…In my opinion, there’s not really a legitimate version of his victory, given the extreme voter suppression that’s already taken place and Supreme Court justices claiming all votes shouldn’t be counted.

…If a transition team comes in next week, is there a way to work with them that would slow roll the damage that this administration will do in the last few months?

…Are the organizers of this event in touch with any of the internationals? Are they having this conversation?

Unelected bureaucrats working against a duly elected President and against his appointees is a reason why President Trump came up with an order designed to help him fight against this.

Category: "Teh Stoopid", Politics

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Cameron

Why do I have a feeling that this is probably going to backfire in someway?

2banana

RICO. Treason. Fire them all.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Flush the toilet… flush the turds out for good.

SFC D

I see many federal job openings in the near future.

BruteLarson

I really hope you’re right.

11B-Mailclerk

Nah. Eliminate the positions. Otherwise the weeds grow back.

Penguinman000

I had a 12 position for about 4 years. When I quit I advised my boss to eliminate the position as I only did actual work every 2 years for about one month. The rest of the time I had to find ways to keep myself busy. Perfect transition point. No one loses a job and the command saves a shit ton of money.

I had everything laid out with graphs/charts etc.. My boss (a GS 14) agreed the position should be either eliminated or shifted to part time.

They ended up hiring some one for the exact same billet. He couldn’t get higher to agree.

Harry D

These are EXACTLY the pieces of shit that should be permanently exorcised from government.

5th/77th FA

The Civil Service part of the swamp is as deep and fetid as the political side. Been like that for decades. When you can’t tell the sheep from the goats…it makes them all goats! Remember the disgruntled failed civil servant applicant that shot a POTUS? Didn’t take long to execute him. “…to encourage the others…”

Roh-Dog

The beneficiaries of state power and largesse actively fighting against a man attempting to limit their power and compensation?
No, seriously, I’m shocked. Shocked beyond belief.
It’s time to halve the entrenched ticks that provide no value, then if the other half don’t get the message, move to decimation.

11B-Mailclerk

Decimation as in firing one tenth of the remaining swamp

Or

true Roman decimation, where the assembled Legion (division) counts off one through ten, the Legate (CG) picks one digit, and the un-chosen other nine beat the chosen tenth to death with clubs

That is “decimation”.

Because that true version would likely work, but I rather expect SCOTUS would find that a bit much, Constitutionally.

Pity.

Roh-Dog

The more civil definition. No need for violence, just make them get real jobs, natural selection and starvation will take care of the rest.

11B-Mailclerk

It would have been an epic Pay-per-view.

Slow Joe

I think a Roman legion would be closer to a Brigade than a Division.

Around 5k dudes divided in 6 cohorts of around 800, similar to Battalions.

11B-Mailclerk

Lots less tail, much more teeth.

They had various camp followers and merchants that followed along, providing significant support, but not attached. They also would have 50% additional auxiliary combatants from allied/affiliated territories. (Slingers, archers, light infantry, etc.) 6000-8000 Legion plus combatant auxiliaries is equivalent to a US division.

The by-design lack of replacements left them significantly understrength by the end of a 16 year (later 20) cohort enlistment/draft. This resulted in the occasional fusion of two much-thinned Legions into one “Gemini” unit.

If you haven’t found yet Stephen Dando-Collins works on the Legions of Rome, they are fascinating.

The Legions were the cultural heart and soul of Rome, and the principle cultural mechanism of Romanization of the western world. Rome drafted a Legion outside Rome proper, enforced Roman virtues and sensibilities for 16 (later 20) years, then discharged the survivors in some other territory with often considerable accumulated savings and generous land grants, with a reserve service obligation and the most valuable thing, Roman Citizenship.

The Legions were the Rome that culturally conquered, not the city folk.

Penguinman000

Lol at them thinking any GS/fed employee who is receptive to that garbage is actually competent enough to do anything of substance. My brief stint at a GS (4 years) taught me a few things.

Incompetence and douchebaggery is rampant in the fed system.

When people never get fired a select few act like it.

The politically vocal types I ran into fell into the incompetent category more often than not.

And good luck getting a GS employee to do anything in their job description.

MI Ranger

You last part has a lot to do with how they write their job descriptions.
I find it hard to believe that every GS-11 has a Masters degree, and every GS-12 and above has a PhD or Doctorate equivalent…unless they all majored in government compliance (underwater basket weaving would take skill and some will power, which most don’t possess).

Sarge

I’m in an 11 position with an associates…moving to a 12 position next year.

Went from 5 to 11 to 12 in under six years.

PDs are important…while I stick to my PD, there are a few things I will do which ultimately make the mission go smoother, but they seldom pop up.

Retired 96B

As a current govie that falls into the I support POTUS camp I can tell you I am outnumbered at the office. The conservatives were I work are under constant threat from the snitches who will run to HR at a seconds notice if they hear something they don’t like. They are also the ones that are among the least productive in the office and who have abused the COVID work from home order. Most haven’t seen the office since February. Most have gov jobs because they are lazy. I fear how it will go under dementia joe if he wins.

Anonymous

If if it were up to these bastards, we’d have been speaking German or Russian for job security.

Sparks

Do what Reagan did with the Air traffic Controllers Union. Abandon their union contracts and then clean house.

For every GS I ever met or worked with who actually did their jobs, there were 6 or 7 that did nothing and I do mean NOTHING!

This is government workers conspiring, on government time, and with government resources, to hamstring if not help overthrow the government. Correct me if I’m wrong but I think there are laws against these acts.

OWB

Sounds right from here. Fire them.

The percentages sound about right, too. It hasn’t always been that bad. Have always had some form of relative or good friends playing the GS game. It was interesting to hear them talk about how to get things done in spite of the dead wood around them, and how to do your job without drawing too much attention from the dead wood. Unions have made it much worse.

One of my own tricks during a stint in a position similar to a GS job was to take paperwork out of the office. The hangers-on assumed I was taking long breaks. Instead I was working from a park bench or a friend’s conference room getting all sorts of reports and stuff done. I was always grateful to be able to do that.

Twist

I’ve been pretty lucky in my GS job. Everyone knows their job and does it well, even the one asshole we all can’t stand and are counting the days until his retirement. It does help that we are a range control and have nothing but veterans working here.

SFC D

Very similar situation here, except our shop is all WG/WL/WS. 99% veterans, mostly retired SNCO’s plus a retired CW3. Everybody knows their jobs, does them well, and we don’t take shit excessively seriously because hey, this is our retirement job. We’re probably all seriously overqualified but we’ve all had our fill of of being in charge. Our higher ups, however…

Anonymous

Fire the bastards.

crucible

All the GS’s I work with (12, 13, 14+) are good to go-competent, dedicated hard workers in the IT arena. Of course, many of us are former military.

I’ve worked with others who are not so much certainly, and a few turds too, but I ran into that in the private sector as well.

The leftist groups advising sedition can pound sand.

Ret_25X

The lying from our union has been vintage 1970s BS.

no one has required a “loyalty” statement from anyone–well, that isn’t true–the UNION has basically demanded that we vote for for Kamalaladingdong and her enabler or we just are not “good” members.

They have demanded that we join and support certain far left groups and are suing the taxpayers over the last shutdown claiming that even though the employees were paid for their work during that period, they should get a 100% “interest” payment in addition.

The folks I call the “bloo birdz” (you know…green hair, piercings, smell bad, look like a game show version of an 80’s punk rocker) are all demanding free leave to protest and trying to slow down work…like the work could slow down even more…smh.

The problem with leftists is that 99.999% of them make the rest look bad.