Weekend Open Thread

| October 30, 2020

Urban Matter – Halloween Head

October is almost over and Halloween is tomorrow. Has the novel coronavirus scared off the Halloween trick or treat plans for your area? Enjoy your weekend.

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  1. ChipNASA says:


    • ChipNASA says:

      Holy Shit, will you look at that!?!?!?!
      It’s just like old times.

      • Claw says:

        old times = 13 Mar 20./smile

        • ChipNASA says:

          It has been a long time Sir Keeper of the Book.
          Seeing as how as certain KoB has been a WoT Whore, (in the kindest of references) can you see when it was the first and only time I completed the 4 WoT firsts, I don’t believe I made the 5 “ACE” level though, if memory serves, 5th/77th FA is the first and only one to make it that far.

          • Claw says:

            Your awesome foursome occurred on 23 Mar, 30 Mar, 06 Apr and 13 Apr 18.

            • 5th/77th FA says:

              Welp, you leave the damn Crown laying around long enough and eventually even a blind dog will find that bone. Took y’all long enough. Sat here carrying on an inherwebz conversation with my Precious Darlin’ Dumplin Daughter, just waiting on someone to pick it up. With all of the whining/bitching/bellyaching going on about the no FIRST earning ‘weeds or ‘weedettes stepping up to compete, I figured the only way to open the competition up was to lay low until a fire mission was required to defend the ONLY ACE OF FIRST that is listed in the Coveted Book of FIRST for the TAH Friday Weekend Open Thread. And, again, there is ONLY ONE ACE 5 in a row FIRST…AND that happens to be The KING OF BATTLE/THE KING OF FIRST old 3D Gun Bunny hisself, 5th/77th FA.

              ‘scuse me while I apply some liniment to my chest.

              While we are looking at past records, we may want to look at just how many ACE of FIRST are out there. And we have yet to see anyone who has opened up the refreshments for the Troops like the Gun Bunny…just saying.

              Oh and btw Chippy, Congrats on your FIRSTNESS. Lord over and Proper Good Sir…you effing effer! Smooches 😛

              • ChipNASA says:

                I’m clinching my sphincter for a kiss right back at you 5th/77th FA my brothers. (Acting just like brothers do…)
                Now then, lording over all the WoT I hereby declare you should watch this without beverage at hand and with a change of drawers due to imminent danger of peeing and spitting thereof…

                “And for there shall be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.”

                (And by the rest of us deplorables watching,
                And there was much rejoicing (yaaaaaaaay).”

    • Graybeard says:

      Rats of the Cong to you, ChipNASA!

  2. ChipNASA says:

    Is this fucking thing on?!?!?!
    I need a COMMS guy here…

    • SFC D says:

      COMMS guy here. Your network is fine, however there seems to be a problem between the chair and keyboard out there in the ethernet…

    • Txnorsky says:

      Read you 5 x 5…

      By the way, congrats on the WOT first!

      • ChipNASA says:

        Thank you kind Sir and of course too, SFC D, I was going to call you out by name, but I know there are a couple of you pole and roll of wire slinging guys out there and didn’t know who’d make if here FIRST, LOL

  3. ChipNASA says:

    Oh and…


  4. SFC D says:


  5. SFC D says:

    Lost one,this is Lost three, are you Lost too, over…

  6. Sea Dragon says:


  7. Eggs says:

    Present and accounted for.

  8. Roh-Dog says:

    There’s a strange yellow orangeish ball in the sky over here in CT, outside to investigate.
    Snow in October today, yesterday was a cold wet one in the turkey blind, skunked again. Broke down round noon, got French toast, eggs, sausage, home fries, and a pot of go-juice in the tank, then went to the pheasant field.
    Bagged a small cock right in the melon! Lead that guy like a champ, no pellets south of the neck, modified and 7 1/2 at about 6 yards. He was enjoyed last night with bacon, herb butter, mashed home-grown taters, stove top, home grown zuccs.
    I killem, she cleans an’ cooks em!
    Getting everything ready for the fallout over next week’s Leftie meltdown part II: the final unraveling.
    Just in case the worst case, I want to thank the cast and crew of TAH, especially Jonn. We’ve certainly had some fun, some laughs, even got a little work done when necessary. I’m proud to have been on the team (dead weight comes in handy, sometimes!).
    If I don’t ever get to say it face-to: it’s been a pleasure.
    Now, for the love of Zeus: GO VOTE!

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      I shot my first Turkey last week, scared the SHIT out of everyone in the frozen meat section of the store!

    • RGR 4-78 says:

      I like to shoot wild turkey, they have 1 that is blended with honey that is wonderful.

    • Graybeard says:

      I’ve not been able to get out in the field for Squirrel, and gun season for deer opens soon.

      Those “other duties as assigned” get in the way.

      Lord willing…

      • Roh-Dog says:

        My apartment backs up to a forest of thick in black walnut, it’s squirrel city.
        I don’t care much for tree rat myself, plus I’m too close to people for even a .22. I’m saving them for the apocalypse anyway.
        Besides, after the gf hand raised 5 of those guys she’d stew me if I harmed a one of ‘em!
        With ammo being the way it is, I’ll stick to the, er, ‘best bang for the buck’.
        Good luck in the field, GB!

        • Claw says:

          “too close to people for even a .22”

          No Sweat, LOLBUY®™ Hunting Wrist Rocket. $38.49 on Amazon./s

          • Roh-Dog says:

            CCI Quiets and a 20 inch bolt gun, they rainbow like a mother but that’s why they come in 500 round bricks!
            (Well, they used to before the China Virus Madness)

          • Graybeard says:

            Or a high-powered air gun. Those puppies can be sub-MOA lethal.

            Roger on the squirrels the women of our lives watch out the kitchen window. But I get to step over the property line into the National Forest and any tree-rat there is fair game.

            Unfortunately, finding the deer in said National Forest has eluded me for decades. Gotta get out scouting – intended to do that today but dealing with gub-ment paperwork for my brother took up my day.

          • AW1Ed says:

            Holy shit. These have come a looong way from the Wrist Rockets of my misspent youth.

  9. LC says:

    Happy weekend, all.

    And remember: The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

    • Sapper3307 says:

      “The will end in 2010”.

    • Sapper3307 says:

      “Green renewable energy can fix the electrical college”.
      AOC first women to walk on the Sun.

    • Dennis - not chevy says:

      Yeah, just what we need. No more electoral college and NYC, LA, Chicago, Houston, and Philadelphia will be telling us what to do. Not that they don’t think they do now.

      • LC says:

        I was just having a little fun – it was just a quote, minus the attribution. That’s right here:


        • Poetrooper says:

          Guess what? He’s right, you know.

          In a pure Democracy the rule is by majority of the total populace. The USA is a democratic republic with an electoral system astutely designed to prevent a tyranny of the majority.

          And you know that–you’re just trying to stir things up, again…

          • LC says:

            Do you think that’s how he intended it? As a critique on ‘pure Democracy’?

            Because while that tweet was from years ago, here’s one from last month, talking about ‘our Democracy’:


            And yes, of course I was trying to stir things up. It’s an open thread, and I readily admitted having a bit of fun with it above.

          • rgr769 says:

            Actually it is a representative republic which was intended to be a confederation of states. It was never intended to be a democracy ruled nation like the European nations. Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant of U.S. history, which is likely over 70 percent of the populace. Even during the civil war everyone considered their respective states in which they resided their “country.”

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      If it wasn’t for the Electoral College there would be NO need for any Candidate to campaign anywhere else than the major cities and those of us here in “Flyover Country” would be subject to the will of minions like you!

      • LC says:

        Per above, just a little good natured trolling. You guys do it to Lars all the time; I wanted in on the game. That’s a direct quote from Donald Trump.

        • Poetrooper says:

          “I wanted in on the game.”

          Well then, why don’t you ever point it out to Lars when he’s in glaring error as he so often is? Or do you get some vicarious thrill from watching him repeatedly make a fool of himself?

          A bit of political masochism at work there?

          • LC says:

            I rarely engage with Lars. It’s happened once or twice. Even on the things we agree upon, his style of ‘discussion’ does more harm than good, in my opinion.

            I’ve always maintained that the ‘two Americas’ need to be able to talk reasonably with each other. I don’t always succeed, but I do try to approach my disagreements with even the most deplorable of deplorables here with the understanding that they, too, want what’s best for the country. He takes a different approach, to put it mildly.

            • Poetrooper says:

              “He takes a different approach, to put it mildly.”

              To put it mildly, indeed…

              As to the Electoral College, I would wager that prior to the 2016 Election fewer than five in one-hundred citizens could tell you what it is and why we have it.

              In 2012, Donald Trump, a non-politician, may not have been among them.

              Think he has a handle on it now?

              I anticipate a good bit of post election commentary from you regardless of the outcome. If Trump wins you’ll be defending all the Democrat challenges and if Trump loses, you’ll be attacking the validity of his.

              Do I have that about right, Mr. Gadfly?

              • LC says:

                As to the Electoral College, I would wager that prior to the 2016 Election fewer than five in one-hundred citizens could tell you what it is and why we have it.

                You can’t be serious. A little episode known as Bush v Gore comes to mind some years ago, as that was the first time in over a hundred years that the person who won the popular vote didn’t win the EC. Ever since then, lots of people know what the EC is. I’d have expected a self-proclaimed genius businessman to be among them, but perhaps not.

                Think he has a handle on it now?

                Not really? I think he favors whatever works for him, no real principle beside that.

                I anticipate a good bit of post election commentary from you regardless of the outcome. If Trump wins you’ll be defending all the Democrat challenges and if Trump loses, you’ll be attacking the validity of his.

                I go where the math goes. If it looks like a clear victory for Biden, great. I’ll be fucking ecstatic, and doubly so if the Democrats take the Senate too. If it looks like a clear victory for Trump, I’ll be miserable, and weep for this country, but be fine with it.

                If there look to be considerable shenanigans on either side, I’ll be pissed about that, regardless of which side they point to, and hope they’re sorted out fairly. See, I believe in the democratic process far more than I prefer either candidate. Maybe that’s the difference between you and I?

                • Poetrooper says:

                  Oh, I’m quite serious–memories of poorly-understood political events are quite limited in the mass electorate.

                  Your snide dismissiveness towards Trump only serves to point out the extent of your TDS.

                  You say, “If it looks like a clear victory for Biden, great. I’ll be fucking ecstatic, and doubly so if the Democrats take the Senate too.”

                  That totally belies all your previous claims here that you are a moderate. You’re just as left as Lars, just not as honest about it.

                  “Maybe that’s the difference between you and I?”

                  There are no differences between you and I, LC, but trust me, there are plenty between you and me.

                  Oh, and you’re damned well right you’ll live with it…

                  • LC says:

                    I can’t speak to the circles you run in, but far more than 5% of the people I know understand how the EC works.

                    And my ‘snide dismissiveness’ of Trump doesn’t speak to ‘TDS’ -I love that you people had to make up an imaginary syndrome to explain people disliking their guy- but rather that I genuinely think he’s terrible for the country.

                    And no, I’m pretty moderate, though I’d probably -when being accurate- suggest I’m more of an independent than a moderate, under the grounds that a moderate likely holds middle-of-the-road positions, whereas an independent holds positions in both sides of the political aisle.

                    My embrace of Biden in this election is because he’s a far better candidate in my view. If I were a lefty, I’d embrace any Democrat, yet had someone put Romney against Clinton, I’d have hoped to fucking god that Romney kicked her ass. See? It’s not about R vs. D, it’s about who the better candidate is. And, shockingly, one can have strong opinions on that.

                    I’ve voted for local Republicans in this race, I just feel Trump is a national embarrassment. If it were Trump vs., say, David Duke, I’d enthusiastically vote for Trump.

                    • Poetrooper says:

                      “…far better candidate…”

                      You have to be joking. That corrupt, senile, old fart who’s been hiding in his basement is a better qualified man to be president than the man who has successfully served for the past four years in spite of all the roadblocks erected in his path by Democrats?

                      That’s truly laughable–and yes, your Trump Derangement Syndrome is now, at last, on the eve of election, on full view to everyone here at TAH.

                      As is your credibility…

                    • Poetrooper says:

                      “I can’t speak to the circles you run in, but far more than 5% of the people I know understand how the EC works.”

                      Well, LC, I run in THIS circle that Jonn Lilyea created long before you stuck your smug liberal nose into it.

                      And I was not referring to those in my surrounds but the population as a whole.

                      But you just can’t resist putting your liberal, elitist snobbery on full display, can you?

                      I think you’re in panic mode right now–like most libs who support your turkey candidate.

                      Even worse than you put up last time…

                    • LC says:


                      I love that you think this is smug, elitist, snobbery liberalism when all it is in reality is someone disagreeing with you. Pretty terrifying, I know.

                      I also find it amusing that you call me elitist, then suggest that the hallowed halls of TAH are wise and knowing about the Electoral College, but the rubes in the general public .. well, maybe only 5% of them are clued in. That’s elitist.

                      And, like usual, you’re wrong, too. Here’s an article from 2008 that showed Americans have a dismal understanding of civics, but ‘only’ 43% didn’t know the EC elects the President. I’ll let you do the math on that, but it’s pretty clear more than 5% of the public understands what the EC is.

                      As for Biden being worse than Clinton, that made me laugh. Good joke!

                    • Poetrooper says:

                      Took you all day to get your head together, LC?

              • MarineDad61 says:

                The 2000 election was a case study in Electoral College.
                But that’s now lost in history to hanging chads,
                and popular vote leader Gore losing to Bush.
                Although history will blame Bush and Florida,
                the blame is on AL GORE,
                who couldn’t win his home state of TENNESSEE.
                Win Tennessee, win the White House.

                • Poetrooper says:

                  It was, indeed, MD61, but you’re spot-on that the EC was lost in the media focus on hanging chads, which is what I meant with LC.

                  You do a man on the street interview asking about the EC today and you might get 5% who actually understand what it is, how it works, and, most importantly, why it exists.

                  Commenters on forums like this are usually more politically involved and have a bit more awareness of how our electoral system works–but the average citizen?

                  Say what you will about Al Gore–he may have lost the presidency, but the hypocritical son of a bitch sure as hell won the climate change lottery.

        • OldManchu says:


          You are tired of playing second fiddle to Lars.

          Got it.

          Carry on loser.

      • David says:

        May be hard on a democracy; thank God we have a republic!

        • LC says:

          Probably best to explain that to POTUS. He keeps calling it a democracy.

          • SFC D says:

            I’m thinking most of America doesn’t understand it either.

          • Poetrooper says:

            Lots of terms are misapplied or don’t have the same meanings they used to:







            Free Speech




            I could keep going but you get the idea.

            And just which side of the political spectrum do you suppose is responsible for most of those changes?

            • 11B-Mailclerk says:

              Words mean what I want them to mean. No more, no less.

              – Humpty Donkey

              • Poetrooper says:

                Is Humpty acquainted with that Democrat war hero, Donkey Hotey, who first successfully brought attention to sources of renewable energy?

              • rgr769 says:

                Actually, I understood the quote was, “when I say a word it means what I say it means, nothing more and nothing less.” This is the Prime Directive for Progressives’ “Newspeak Dictionary” and their handbook on propaganda. I recall someone telling me once that one can win any argument if he gets to define all the words used in the discussion.

    • SFC D says:

      It’s supposed to be a disaster for democracy. Pure democracy soon becomes mob rule. Hence the term “Democrat”.

    • Mason says:

      It’s true. It’s not democratic. It’s good for the republic though. Since we have a republican form of government, I’ll go with keep it.

    • Fyrfighter says:

      For a direct democracy, ie: mob rule, yep, it sure is, and that is it’s intended function (And why we live in a Representative Republic, NOT a democracy). It was put in place to make sure that more populous states would not overrun the rest of the country.

      For those that like to screech about Hitlery “winning the popular vote” (and naively believing there was no voter fraud) by 1.4 million votes or some such also ignore the fact that she won California by over 3 million (how many of those were cast by illegals or dead people).. so in other words, if you leave Cali out of the equation, she lost the popular vote BIGLEY….
      If the electoral college is done away with, the person that wins NY, Cali, and 2-3 other states can win the Presidency.. Otherwise known as “Tyranny of the majority” Which is why I’m sure that you and I are on different sides of the unconstitutional Prop 113 on Colorado’s ballot this year LC..( and I’d assume the same with Amendment 76.

      • LC says:

        Per above, Fyr, that quote is not by me, but by Donald J. Trump. He said the electoral college is a disaster for democracy – I was just having some light fun, since I knew it would ‘trigger’ people here on the open thread.

        As for the voter fraud issue, if there was a lot, you’d think the commission on that would’ve turned something up. If you’re suggesting that there were tons -possibly millions?- of fraudulent voters, where’s the evidence?

        And leaving California out is just silly – it’s almost 40M people, nearly 1/8th the population of the USA. And in 2016, it cast 14.2M of the 136.7M votes, or 10.4% of them. That’s like saying, “Well, sure, if we leave out West Virginia, Wyoming, Oklahoma, North Dakota, Kentucky, Alabama, South Dakota, Tennessee, Arkansas, Idaho, Nebraska and Louisiana (totally 14.4M votes, so similar to California), then Hillary would’ve won by an additional 4.1M votes (the differential in those states).” But what logic is there for leaving out ~14M voters, whether in one state or several? None that I can see. California is a part of the US, correct?

        As for 113, yes, I tend to side with it, though probably not for the reasons you suspect. At this point, the country is so divided and I fully expect to see Democrats try to add ‘blue’ states to the union. Which they’ll be able to do if they control the Senate. If they add (for the sake of discussion; I understand the issues with DC) Puerto Rico, Guam and DC, giving a likely +4-6 (D) Senators, let alone more in the House, and additional Electoral Votes, is that fine with you? What if California gets split on gerrymandered lines such that it’s two blue states? And other (blue) states do the same? What if we suddenly have 100 Democratic senators, and the Republicans can’t retake power in the foreseeable future because states are gerrymandered like districts are sometimes?

        It’s a path that was inconceivable back when we had some semblance of reasonable differences in our political parties. But those days seem pretty far gone, and it’s play-to-win at this point. I don’t like the idea of ‘stacking the deck’ with states to control Congress, so the better-but-far-from-ideal case of a popular vote, which doesn’t change with the number of states, seems better to me, yes.

        As an aside, I think that with Texas going more purple, and likely becoming blue in the coming decade, even Republicans will start to question the EC. They like it now because it gives them an advantage, but once Texas flips, it’s game over for the current strategy.

        • Fyrfighter says:


          My point for the comment about California was not that it should actually be excluded, but to point out that due to it’s massive numbers, candidates in a pure popular vote would likely focus on it and other large states, and totally ignore the smaller ones, like the ones you mention, which would result in a government by / for the big cities, not the rest of us.
          As to splitting California into two states, while that would increase the number of D senators, wouldn’t the EC votes remain the same, as they’re based on population?
          I agree that Texas has been going purple, with the chance of turning blue. Sadly, this is what happens when a state suffers a massive invasion from California. They flee the shitty conditions there, and then vote for exactly the same laws / conditions they ran away from. Living in Colorado, we’ve seen this first hand. Colorado was solid red 30 years ago, and Boulder was a laughing stock. Now that so many have come here and managed to “Californicate” Colorado (used to see a lot of bumper stickers against that), the state is blue.
          On that topic, it could be argued that it’s just a coincidental result of the ridiculous policies in Cali, NY, and other leftist strongholds, though I tend to go with the belief that at least among those running those states (or the ones behind the scenes), creating situations that cause their supporters to flee to previously red states is intentional, as they know that those “refugees” will infect their new state with the same ideology, and eventually turn them blue as well.

          • Fyrfighter says:

            Ooh, as for the quote being attributed to DJT, my apologies, I did read that further down in the thread, but I commented after seeing your initial post, I hadn’t scrolled through the rest of the thread at that point.

          • LC says:

            I actually think it’s the other way around, Fyr – in a pure popular vote, every place matters. Sure, densely packed cities give candidates more reach than small towns, but right now, how much time do they spend in ‘swing states’ (due to the EC) vs., say, Montana? Arkansas? Or on the other side, NYC? Los Angeles?

            Since the winner-take-all states are often done deals, and the popular vote doesn’t matter, there’s little value in Republicans campaigning in Connecticut, for example. In a popular vote, there would be, because every single one of those votes would matter.

            That’s not to say it’s perfect; people will always go where they can get their message across most effectively. But right now, it’s all about PA, FL and a few others – not all fifty.

            As for the DJT quote, that was the point – it was just some light trolling. When I said it, people here were obviously strongly opposed. When Trump said it, they dismiss it. The idea should stand on its merits, pro and con, regardless of the messenger, I think.

    • NHSparky says:

      Which is why we don’t live in a democracy.

      By design.

  10. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Twenty-sump’n and Honorary First once again.


  11. Claw says:

    Of no particular interest to anyone except maybe a Supply Weenie:

    Is the United States getting ready to move into the unassigned number block of NSN’s?

    2355-01-999-9999 Oshkosh MRAP ATV

    So maybe seeing a stock number for the M41A Pulse Rifle will happen in our lifetimes./smile

    • RGR 4-78 says:



      Come on supply Daddy, give up some good stuff for the line dogs.

      • Claw says:

        I’ve been trying to order those M41A’s using a part number on a DD Form 1348-1 for the longest now, but it’s hard to get the Galactic Supply Administration to react. Been getting the same message over and over:

        Request Rejected. Please wait 90 days before attempting reorder.

        But, maybe eventually once an NSN is assigned I can get some./smile

  12. Commissioner Wretched says:

    Congratulations to ChipNASA for getting the coveted, honored, always-earned, never-given FIRST in the WOT! About bloody time! I know the King of Battle will be gracious in handing over the crown and scepter. At least, I think he will be.

    Anyway, here we go, another Friday, another WOT, another trivia column – and a rather special one for me. Enjoy!

    Was a classic novel rewritten from memory after the author burned the manuscript – because his wife didn’t like it?
    By Commissioner Wretched

    This is special time again!

    Yes, Halloween is this week, and all that, but … it’s another kind of special time too!

    This week I mark the fourth anniversary of the first “Did You Know…?” column! That’s right, I’ve been churning out this silly nonsense for four solid years now.

    And you’re still here, still with me, still (hopefully) enjoying these little dollops of trivia.

    Now, as we embark on year five, I want to once again say thank you to everyone who reads this nonsense. You are the reason I get up in the morning and spend hours in the research. It’s for you that I put fingers to keyboard and create the column. You’re why I do this.

    Well, that, and it’s a regular paycheck.

    Thank you so much for spending the last four years with me here, and let’s go for at least four more!
    Beginning right now, with this week’s trivia!

    Did you know …

    … a fish can suffocate in water? Like humans, fish need oxygen, which they get from the water in which they live. If the water does not have sufficient oxygen, they suffocate, just as we do. (I knew they “suffocated” when we take them out of the water, but wasn’t sure about this.)

    … about 23% of all the failures of photocopiers around the world are caused by people trying to photocopy their backsides? (Yeah, when you break the copier glass, it doesn’t work any more.)

    … a cat was once listed as the co-author of a physics paper? F.D.C. Willard (1968-1982), a Siamese cat known to his family as “Chester,” was credited as co-author of a paper by Dr. Jack Hetherington (born 1935), a retired professor from Michigan State University. Hetherington had written a paper for Physical Review Letters in 1975, but the journal would not publish it as written because Hetherington used the terms “we” and “our” in his work. The journal did not want to credit Hetherington as its sole author, even though he had written the article (and conducted the research) alone. As a gag, Hetherington added the name of his cat (Felis Domesticus Chester Willard) as a co-author, and the paper was published. Chester was credited as sole author on another paper by Hetherington a couple of years later. (My cat Sassy is also a creative spirit. I’ve seen things shredded in my house in ways I never thought possible.)

    … in the 1964 television series, “The Addams Family,” the inside walls of the house were bright pink? You never saw that, of course, because the program was filmed and aired in black and white. Pastel colors like green and pink show up as light, dingy shades of gray on black and white film. (That’s creepy and kooky, mysterious and spooky, and altogether ooky!)

    … an author had to rewrite a classic novel from memory because his wife didn’t like it? Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-1894) penned his book “The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” in 1886. He wrote the whole thing in just three days, and then let his wife read it. His wife, magazine writer Fanny Vandegrift Stevenson (1840-1914), thought the book was just “all right.” Incensed by her verdict on the work, Stevenson threw the manuscript into the fireplace and burned it. Minutes later – after he’d calmed down – he realized what he’d done, but it was too late to save the manuscript. Undeterred, Stevenson rewrote the entire book from memory – again, in just three days. (That’s why we’ve all heard of Stevenson, but not of his wife.)

    … Roman coins have been excavated in Iceland? The coins bear the head of the emperor Diocletian (244 AD-341 AD). What makes the find unusual is that the Romans did not know of the existence of Iceland, so it’s unclear how the coins got there. (Well, we know it wasn’t because of the tourist bureau, right?)

    … married men change their underwear twice as often as single men do? (I guess being nagged has its advantages, then.)

    … only one state’s name can be typed using just one row of a traditional typewriter keyboard? It’s Alaska. The state only has four different letters, all of them on the middle row of the keyboard. (I read once where people actually get paid to figure these things out. That’s the job I need.)

    … all Amish men with beards are married? In the Amish religion, a man is required to shave his beard until he marries. But Amish men don’t wear mustaches, a prohibition that goes back to colonial times. The reason is that British officers were required to have a mustache until 1916, and the Amish had had very bad interactions with British officers, being bullied by them during colonial times. Though the British no longer require officers to wear mustaches, the Amish haven’t forgotten, and thus they do not allow men to wear mustaches along with the beards. Additional trivia note: the beard of an Amish man is the only way to tell he’s “off the market,” as men in that religion do not wear wedding rings.

    … the word “dexterity” has a bias? Sure, it means you can do things with both hands. But it’s biased toward right-handed people. “Dexter” means “right.” Thus, the word “dexterity” means, essentially, being “right-handed” on both sides. (Right? Right!)

    … it is illegal to change clothes inside a car in Delaware? (It’s hilarious to do it outside the car, though!)

    Now … you know!

    • Dennis - not chevy says:

      To build on the Amish beard entry, mustaches aren’t the only thing not allowed. Since shiny buttons were worn on military uniforms, they are not allowed by Amish. I suppose the buttons are showy and immodest. That is not to say they shun folks in the military; I was once stationed about an hour from an Amish village. I enjoyed visiting with them.

      • Fyrfighter says:

        Another point about the Amish (had to do a paper on this last year), they are known as “Pennsylvania Dutch:, which is a mispronunciation of Deutsch, or German. Their prohibition on Mustaches also comes from the German military tradition, as well as interactions with the British.

    • David says:

      And appropriately, left is ‘sinister’.

    • Graybeard says:

      OK, I may just be a literature nerd, but I have heard of Robert Lewis Stevenson’s wife, Fanny Osbourne. She collected and published his prayers written for family worship when they were in Samoa – under the title “Prayers written at Vailima”.
      Her introduction to the collection gives an insight into their life in Samoa, and her husband’s faith and last days.

      ISBN 0-570-05220-3 is an illuminated copy of these prayers done in a beautiful calligraphic style.

    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Another outstanding job CW, our Thanks for this one and the 4 years preceding. You are the Man! You keep bringing them, we’ll keep enjoying them. Another connection we have is my orange tabby feline named Sassy. Kinda goes along with mine and Ex’s felines named Smokey.

      The old school Icelandiers may have gotten the Roman coins doing trade and commerce with them at the Hadrian’s Wall. I read up on that awhile back in a NatGeo article, the wall that is. Seems as if the Roman Soldiers had a regular accompanied tour thing going on there. When the Romans pulled out, they left some dependapotomuses (dependapotomi?). And some troops whose 25 year tours were up. Maybe them coins were used to rent some rather interesting firerey red headed Icelandic Female Companionship?

      “…be gracious in the handing over…” Or spin it in like a flying saucer frisbee and chunk it like a spear. 😀 Lubs my Brother ChipNASA. You other deplorables have him to thank for my determination to beat out all others for the Coveted Crown. His blocking my original 3 Petes for FIRST just whetted the burning desire to get the 3, then quad 50s 4 and the NEVER achieved ACE 5 in a Row FIRST! I will lay low, in the back of the Basket of Deplorables Bus, only snatching the lanyard for a Fire Mission to defend the ONLY ACE of FIRST ever EARNED (Never Awarded/Given)

      I have a slight advantage over other readers here, not on the FIRST competition, but on my knowledge of the Chipster. Not to brag on the boy or anything, but I had seen a write up from others on the fine work he does to support our rocket scientists in a National Type Publication. They sang his praises, literally, to the Heavens. Shhh, don’t tell anybody, I had promised to keep that a secret. He, like many others on this forum, are due accolades for the different types of work they do/have done that they would disavow with an “Aw Shucks” and a kick of the dirt.

      I’m not a hero, but I blog around with a bunch of them. A number of them cook, too!

  13. 26Limabeans says:

    Congrats to ChipNASA.
    I was first once.
    Now I’m just another deplorable dickweed.

    “It is better to have been First and lost it than not to have been First at all”

  14. thebesig says:

    Don’t forget to change the clocks this weekend. Daylight Saving Time ends November 1, 2020.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      Congress screwed up -clocks-

      Is there nothing they can’t doo-doo?

    • SFC D says:

      Arizona categorically rejects this “savings” plan. We have all the daylight we need, thankyouverymuch!

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Getting an extra hour of 2020 is like getting a bonus track on a Yoko Ono CD!

    • NHSparky says:

      “Only the government would believe that if you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket.”

  15. Hack Stone says:

    Sorry for being late to formation. Hack Stone had to set the odometer on a 1980’s vintage Jaguar belonging to the Vice President of the proud but humble woman owned business that sells software to the federal government back 100 miles.

  16. Thanks to Ed and Mason, I am now able to wear the 3rd class PO Crow on my USS Okinawa cap. Had to order a second one beside the one I have been wearing on my USS Haynsworth DD 700 cap from inactive Reserve. Thanks again guys.

  17. Forgot to mention on above comment that panic buying has started and people stocking up on firearms and ammo. WFTL 850AM radio Florida mentioned that walmart was taking it’s ammo off the shelves which I believe consists of rifle, small cal. hand gun and shotgun ammo. They took the Sturmgeware type 44 ammo off the shelves awhile ago. Got the panic buying on my home page but I don’t know which one of the 3 political parties the writer favors.

    • Sapper3307 says:

      Good thing my food saver had multiple uses over the years.

    • Roh-Dog says:

      Tp, hand sanitizer, food, ammo, guns, etc…
      If you’re not buying low and sitting on at least 6 months worth, well, you ain’t right.*
      And ammo?! Sheeahh, 1000 round cases of Federal 5.56 used ta go for $300 with a $20 rebate, limit of $200 back. But if you call my buddy’s wife at customer service she can get that waved.

      *I mean there are circumstances (small apt, moving a lot, planned failure in the case of TEOTWAWKI so you’re not in physical form during the rapture, whatevs..) and 6 month minimum! 12 if you don’t want to have to ‘silence the neighbors’. Gotta get to the first harvest of crops, ya know.

  18. Graybeard says:

    FIRST in the hearts and minds of my grandkids, still.

    Plumb forgot about this being Friday.

    Had a memorial service for my oldest cousin yesterday. He told his wife Saturday night he wanted to get up early to go to church, and passed away in his sleep. He wound up in a better worship service than we’ve yet experienced.

    This leaves me the oldest surviving member of my father’s side, and only my German-born aunt on my mother’s side. Kinda sobers one up a bit.

    But I still get hugs from the grands, Trump will, Lord willing and the voting fraud doesn’t get too bad, be CiC for another 4. Regardless, we need to keep our great Country in our prayers.

  19. Thunderstixx says:

    Normally on a Friday night I would be coming up with some snide remark regarding another posting here or bitching about larsie-boi. But, not tonight.
    I was informed today that my best Girlfriend/Fiancee’ almost a wife passed away last night in Las Vegas where she had moved with her Husband and Bass Player extraordinaire Rob Strange several years ago.
    She was diagnosed with Stage 3 Cancer 2 weeks ago and passed quietly last night.
    Pammy Pooh was one of the most beautiful women on Planet Earth and I simply cannot tell you how many times I had to intervene when somebody tried to pick her up while I was busy playing Rock and Roll Drums at some dive bar somewhere in the Midwest.
    She was also the Stepmother and best friend of Daughter #2. She taught her how to put on her makeup, how to dress, how to not let guys take advantage of her physically, how to defend herself with words and how to act in a host of situations.
    We only get so many people that we really love and care for in our lives, it is important that we do our best to not take advantage of them and to always remember the good things they did while you spend part of this thing we call life on Planet Earth.
    I’m very sad about losing her, but my daughter is taking it very hard and I feel bad for her pain, on top of everything else she has to deal with right now, this doesn’t help in the least…..
    Please remember Pammy Pooh in your thoughts and prayers if you would my friends.
    And, please remember to tell those that surround you that you love them, no matter what…..
    Man this is a great big hole in my heart….
    Pammy Pooh, I love you and I miss you, every day…..

    • Graybeard says:

      Prayers for you and your daughter, Thunderstixx.

      Grief is the price we pay for loving well. But it still sucks.

    • Combat Historian says:

      I am very sorry for your loss…

    • ChipNASA says:

      I’m sorry. that sucks but the wheel turns.
      The only saving grace in thought is that they’re no longer fighting the sickness, the illness.
      They are back with the Universe.

    • Fyrfighter says:

      Condolences and prayers to you and yours TS

    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Prayers up for all Brother Thunderstixx. To, yours, Pammy’s, and for the Graybeard Family. And, maybe to head off the sorrow of others in our little group of deplorables, my Baby Girl in the loss of her step dad from years back. Rick was a good guy that treated her right and dealt with her Mother for a few years, back yonder. Parkinson’s was part of his journey across the River. That gives us the “it comes in threes” count for TAH for the week. Maybe the Reaper will be satisfied for a bit.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Prayers out for you and yours, Thunderstixx.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Condolences, Thunderstixx. Sorry for your, and your daughter’s, loss.

    • 26Limabeans says:

      It is always difficult to lose a loved one.
      Thank you for sharing your grief.

    • OWB says:

      Add my thoughts and prayers with the others, stixx.

      How oddly appropriate to read this on All Hallows Eve – that time of year when many of us celebrate all those we loved who have passed on to the dimension. It may be too soon for you to “celebrate” your loss this year but do not ever forget that the pain comes from having loved well.

      It may sound trite, but a time will come when you will remember fondly instead of hurting. It takes a while so be patient.

    • Mason says:

      Sorry to hear that stixx. Condolences and prayers coming your way.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      My condolences on your loss.

    • Poetrooper says:

      Stixx, sorry for your loss. As that old truism goes: Love never dies, regardless of life’s circumstances.

      May she rest in peace…

      May you find peace…

      Bless you both…

  20. MarineDad61 says:

    83rd. LOL
    Poor Daniel Greenwell, the Phony Navy SEAL
    with the church website tribute page (now deleted).
    He’s riding the top of the Military Phonies website for 5 weeks now.
    Which brings me to the year’s luckiest Stolen Valor POS,
    Phony balogna Kenosha protester
    who only rode the top of the list for 6 DAYS.
    I’ll guess there’s plenty out there she rode longer than 6 days.
    In bar jargon, rode hard.
    She’s apparently hiding under a fairly large rock now,
    but winter is coming to Wisconsin,
    so she’ll soon be back out at the street corner burn barrels,
    warming up her meathooks,
    singe-ing off her eyebrows,
    and testing out brand new “material”
    on other local barrel warmers who don’t read the news.
    By spring 2021, she’ll be right back to
    wheeling, dealing, spieling, and kneeling.

    A classic reminder for the ages…
    Google is your friend, UNLESS…
    .. you got your ass busted for Stolen Valor.


    • MarineDad61 says:

      THIS is what happens
      when Google is no longer your friend.
      Down the list on Page 1 of Google results, from 2008:
      But under questioning of defense lawyer Charles Blumenfield,
      Carol Badoni repeated her statement.
      “He was going to wrap her up with a damn chain,
      throw her in the damn lake with the damn cinder blocks,” she said.
      “He was tired of his wife cheating on him,
      doing drugs, staying out all night.”

      The questioning also covered her history as an exotic dancer
      and her many suicide attempts, including one last month.

      While the defense called the evidence against Brossard “flimsy,”
      the judge said it was enough to proceed.
      (end paste)


  21. The Other Whitey says:


    My niece’s F4F is on hold, pending custom decals, so I started on her little sister’s F3H-2 Demon.

    One of my other nieces has requested a De Havilland Mosquito to go with her Spitfire (she has a thing for British aircraft). Since she has recently demonstrated a talent for drawing Japanese-animation-style characters (not my thing, but what the hell), I recommended that she design her own nose and/or tail art for it. She seems rather excited to do that.

    • KoB says:

      Looking good TOW. We appreciate you sharing these with us. You’re building your very own CAF? (California Air Force) Maybe you should contact ol’ Guv Gav and get some R&D/Economic Stimulus Money like he threw out to the high speed rail or tunnel boondoggles? You could buy a buncha glue and custom decals with that. Good to see the girls are not only capable, but also willing to contribute their skillz sets too.

      Keep us posted!

  22. Cameron says:

    Looks like George Wallace Jr. was not the innocent man they claim he was. Not surprising. Angering, but not surprising. A lot of assault and domestic abuse charges (one charge was for punching his own mom in the face, another was for pointing a gun at someone’s head, and one charge was for aggravated assault, he pulled a knife on someone, possibly the baby mama, plus a few charges for assaulting a police officer), one robbery charge, one charge of making terrorist threats, and one vandalism charge. Yeah, a real pillar of the community.

    • Cameron says:

      Walter Wallace Jr not George Wallace jr.

    • Hack Stone says:

      He was also an “aspiring rapper. When whoever it is that makes up the list of most dangerous occupations, “aspiring rapper” should overtake lumberjack and the guy who had to the clean the bathroom after Daniel berth used it as the most dangerous job.

    • Fyrfighter says:

      Good Choice Cameron, The Office Tatum is awesome!

      • Cameron says:

        I love him Fyrfighter. Right up there with Dr. Steve Turley, Steven Crowder, Anthony Brian Logan, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, Prager University, Candace Owens, The Liberal Hivemind, and the Hodge Twins.

  23. 11B-Mailclerk says:





  24. Devtun says:

    Legendary Scottish born actor Sean Connery has passed away at 90. Best known for his role as James Bond. His other notable roles were in films such as ‘Hunt for Red October’, ‘Indiana Jones’, ‘The Rock’, ‘Highlander’, and numerous others. He also briefly served in the British Royal Navy.


    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Rest Easy Sir Sean…He has now crossed…”A Bridge Too Far”

      Another reason why so many Generation Alphabets hate us Boomers…We had the best Movie Stars AND Movies…to go along with the best cars and music.