Trump’s Taxes

| July 10, 2020 | 36 Comments

SCOTUS on Thursday ruled that Manhattan’s chief prosecutor can obtain troves of President Trump’s business records and tax returns, which Dems are touting as a momentous defeat for the president in his efforts to shield his personal financial information from state investigators.

This is quite true. But…
While the court actually found yes, his tax records may indeed be subpoenaed by a prosecuting attorney like anyone else’s, they also declined to rule if Congress can access those records, and kicked that case back to the lower courts. Score 7-2 in both.

Skippy sends.

Supreme Court punts, denies Trump immunity but blocks House Dems from tax docs

The court has thrown both cases back to lower courts
By: Tyler Olson, Ronn BlitzerThe Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that President Trump is not immune to a subpoena from Democratic Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. over his financial and tax records and declined in a separate case to issue a definitive ruling on whether congressional committees can have access to Trump’s financial records, throwing both issues back to lower courts.

The rulings are on brand for the court under the leadership of Chief Justice John Roberts, avoiding a fraught political issue in the middle of an election year, and ruling narrowly on major disputes, especially those involving conflicts between the other branches.

Vance had subpoenaed Trump’s records as part of a criminal investigation into potential wrongdoing by the president and his organization. Multiple House committees had subpoenaed Trump’s records ostensibly as part of an effort at oversight and to inform potential legislation. Both rulings were 7-2.

“President is neither absolutely immune from state criminal subpoenas seeking his private papers nor entitled to a heightened standard of need,” Roberts wrote in the court’s majority opinion in the New York case. The court limited its ruling and the arguments before it to whether Trump has “absolute immunity” and state prosecutors are required to show a “heightened need” in order to obtain documents as part of investigations into a president.

The immunity issue likely won’t have much, if any, affect on the upcoming election, but my cause Trump ass-pain farther down the road. Denying Dems immediate access to those records has to burn now, though.
*grin*
Thanks, Skippy.

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", "Your Tax Dollars At Work", 2020 Election, Trump!

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  1. Slow Joe says:

    So, are they getting Trump’s tax records before the elections or not?

  2. Skippy says:

    I think if they ever see the light of day we are going to find out he paid
    A lot in taxes. But like everything else the Dems do they will go on to something else
    To cry about

  3. Steve 1371 says:

    Still waiting to see JEF’s college records and birth certificate.
    I would like to see some fruit from Dunham’s investigation.

      • Slow Joe says:

        Why is Obama the ONLY President whose college records are classified?

        Do you think because he scored high?

        • LC says:

          … You’re kidding, right? This is one of those jokes that’s hard to get over the internet? Because I’m pretty sure that a) they’re not ‘classified’, they’re merely private.. and b) so are the current President’s. Which makes that whole ‘ONLY’ thing seem rather silly.

          Personally, while I do like recent tax records of candidates, I’m not too worried about college transcripts of people in their 60’s. I’m pretty sure that what someone did in school 40+ years ago isn’t terribly relevant.

          • Mason says:

            Especially when they were caught plagiarizing. Amiright?

            Not like someone who’d cheat in law school would go on to plagiarize again and again.

            • LC says:

              Nope. It’s not a political thing to me, but maybe it’s personal. I’m a college dropout. My college records don’t speak to my current education and knowledge any more so than my failures at Tee-ball many decades ago speak to my physical fitness now.

              If someone is a serial plagiarizer, surely they’re going to have done so more recently than half a century ago, too.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      No one has a legal right to anyone’s transcripts, period. You can’t get mine, unless I ask the records office to send them to you, and you would have to have a damned good reason to demand them before I’d make that request.

      The federal Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act prohibits educational institutions from disclosing education records without students’ consent.

      Get over yourself, will you, Steve? You’re being ridiculous. If Obama sloughed his way through Harvard, who gives a crap? He passed the bar in Illinois, and it doesn’t matter what his test results were for that, either. All he had to do was pass the bar exam.

      You’re just going to have to deal with that like a grown-up, Tootsie.

      Furthermore, if you knew anything about law at all, anyone born to an American parent or parents is an American citizen no matter where s/he was born. That is a federal law, so deal with it, will you? For reference, search for Simas Kudirka. His mother was born in Brooklyn but migrated to Lithuania where he was born, and since SHE was an American citizen BY BIRTH, Kudirka was an American citizen, also.

      • Thunderstixx says:

        If they have nekkid pics of you I want to see ’em !!!!

        (Goes assholes and elbows to lock himself in the latrine !!!)
        (In Hays County TX !!!)

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Not in a million years, Stixx. Not even when I was in the baby coach thingy.

          Sorry about that. Closest I come to that is a Ren Faire court dress with a doublet, a forepart, bum roll, farthingale and four petticoats included. Fortunately, it was about 55F that particular July day. 🙂

      • OWB says:

        Not entirely true, Ex. The details have changed many times, but the broad brush stokes remained: children born to US citizens abroad were always eligible automatically to be US citizens. (And sometimes also the country in which they were born. Lots of variations on that one depending upon when and where, but that is another issue.)

        There have always been forms to file to actually be recognized as a citizen, It is much easier when both parents are US citizens. When one of the parents is not a US citizen there are additional forms which must be filed for US citizenship to be claimed for the child. Those are the forms which apparently were never submitted to the US government by the US citizen mother when her bouncing baby boy was born wherever he was born. Or whatever happened and led to the confusion.

        The argument has never been if he was legitimately eligible to serve as prez wherever he was born. The question was if the mother submitted the proper paperwork.

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Well, there’s also the fact that a birth certificate was made public (copy up above) that says he was born in Hawaii. So the real question is: where was he actually born?

          With Kudirka, the fact that his mother was born in Brooklyn and later emigrated to Lithuania caused a real problem (see my 1PM post when it comes up) because of lack of paperwork in the US.

          • OWB says:

            Didn’t look at this one, but did at the time it first came up years ago. Since I can’t remember all the specific details, it really wouldn’t do much good.

            That copy of “his birth certificate” was an easily discernable alteration of his sister’s birth certificate. “Why?” became the question some of us were asking. The fact that his own was not presented proved nothing really beyond it confusing the issue further.

            His original birth certificate may have been lost. It might not have been processed correctly. Who knows.

      • Steve 1371 says:

        PH2, I said nothing about college. His citizenship is still questionable. There pressing matter is Durham presenting the goods on the clowns who tried to unselect a president.

  4. Ex-PH2 says:

    Well, if dTrump had any kind of booboos in his tax records, the IRSers/Revenuers have already called him on it. It’s called ‘AN AUDIT’, where you have to ‘splain yourself to the Gubmints.

    There’s that rumor that dTrump paid two women after he had an affair with either of them some 30 years (maybe more) ago, and the proper response is “YAWWWNNN!’ 30 years ago? Who gives a crap?

    This is all pfishing, you know. If dTrump sneezed at a press conference, the cranks who style themselves news people will say dTrump is spreading the CV-19 virus, even if it’s long gone. It’s grasping at straws by a bunch of spoiled brats who didn’t get to have their way because shrillary didn’t win.
    WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!

    • Thunderstixx says:

      His tax records are under audit with the IRS as we write this and that is why he won’t release them.
      The klowne news network moron accosted was having his ass handed back to him in the daily presser led by the one and only Kaleigh McEneney !!!!
      Glorious thing to watch !!!
      It kills me to watch her work on those morons. The only one that continually asks intelligent questions is the beautiful reporter from OANN.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      But he’s not SHRILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      They lost!!!

      I need cheesecake.

      When my sister bought her house, she must have taken some deductions that were semi-questionable, because she was audited and it spooked her. When she fussed about it, my response was if her deductions were legit, she had nothing to worry about. Just smile and nod, Sis.

  5. And around and around the obama shadow govt slow moving coup demoRAT merry go round goes, so it’s either impeachment or now his tax records they are trying to grab from the brass ring slot.

  6. 26Limabeans says:

    Has Lois Lerner wieghed in on this?

  7. Slow Joe says:

    After the elections it doesn’t matter.

    The Democrats want his tax returns now so they can claim all kinds of stupid shit, since Trump’s taxes are not gonna look as simple as a politician’s.

  8. Green Thumb says:

    I get his taxes after he was elected, but before is not even remotely relevant to his current position.

  9. bill says:

    Who gives a shit about berryhusseins’s birth cert or academic records? He’s a shit whose actions resulted in the deaths of two fine Border Partrol officers- Brian Terry and Nick Ivie- Both out of Naco Station in Cochise County, Arizona. Two good Men serving their country. Dead ’cause of that muzzie son of a pair of somethings. There seem to be other events that were covered-up as well

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