Does anyone know what the hell Teti is talking about?
UPDATE: Dude took the facebook post down. Probably a good move, since we clearly never said any of the things he was accusing us of saying.
One blog in particular called This Ain’t Hell has a …really colorful write up on me. They were even kind enough to post it on my FB page here. THANK YOU!!!! You are making my job very easy. Folks………I highly recommend you read it if you need a few good laughs and truly see jealousy at its finest. Especially the parts where they say I have committed FELONY acts, such as arson and theft, amongst a plethora of other humorous deeds.
I’ve been looking for where we said that, and I find nothing.* Certainly not in a post, and I didn’t see any comments that said it either. But I know Teti has a host of lawyers, so we must have said it somewhere because I am sure Joe wouldn’t just make untrue allegations for shits and giggles. Right?
[* It appears he’s referring to this comment. A comment which explicitely states “Here’s some info regarding Joe Teti from a forum called wilderness-survival.net” and then quotes it. Apparently quoting from somewhere else is tantamount to stating it? That’s a pretty odd policy to take. After all, he cites to us, which I guess makes him complicit in his own defamation. Or, as Joe calls it repeatedly “deformation”.]
Just a reminder of some of the horrid shit Jonn said about Teti:
- Most of that is true. He was indeed in the USMC’s Force Recon.
- He was also in Special Forces – National Guard Special Forces- for five years, ending on May 1st, 2000.
- I don’t disparage his service because he certainly accomplished more in his nine years than I did in my two decades, well, school-wise, anyway.
- There are rumors about him flying around the internet and I won’t engage in hearsay.
- I found him to be an affable fellow, even though he called me ‘sir’ more times than I was comfortable with. And he called me a “smart guy” several times – if only he knew.
Wait, what? What part was so colorful? Where he used your records to show you were telling the truth?
Again, his beef seems to be with commenters arguing whether service as a contractor makes him a “combat veteran.” About 1/2 believe it does, and 1/2 believe it doesn’t. And no one is crapping on contractors, least of all me, especially since I wear a Blackwater hat all the time.
Dude seems to need meds or something.
Everyone keeps saying we should have done it face to face. Which of us should have done that? We make no money on the blog, certainly not enough to fly anywhere when email and phones work. You’d have thought the numerous emails and phone calls would have been sufficient, especially since Jonn’s post just gives the dude a tonguebath, but apparently those of you who want to write bad things should write them in his presence or something.
Now, it goes without saying, YOU ARE NOT HELPING if you threaten him, call his house or anything else. Don’t pass on rumors of arson or anything else. I haven’t seen anyone do it, but in case you were thinking of it, do not. This whole fued is pretty much played out as far as we are concerned.
And to whoever the shitdick was calling his phone/internet provider claiming to be Jonn and alter his service, it didn’t work. If you think he’s an asshole now, you should deprive him of Megyn Kelly for a day or two and things will get real fricken interesting.
Category: Politics
@tunaflab – To answer your question: yes, they have. They don’t have to broadcast it to the entire universe. Some of these people have done and seen things that would freeze your blood.
So if you want to pick a fight with someone, go look in the mirror.
Mr. Teti: If you are reading this, please answer this question:
Why did you in 2008 tell a person on Classmates.com “When 9-11 happened, ENLISTED IN THE ARMY AND SERVED 5 YEARS IN THE SPECIAL FORCES. 3 TOURS IN IRAQ. 4 TOURS IN AFGHANISTAN”??
Were you ashamed in 2008 to let that person know you were a Contractor?
Are you ashamed now to let the public know you were a Contractor?
Be proud of what you did before 9-11 as well as what you did after 9-11.
If you want so much to have the title COMBAT VETERAN, then perhaps, with your Military Schooling, the US Army will let you Re-Enlist so that you can serve in Afghanistan as a SF Soldier.
Fair?
He has now deleted all of my comments off of his Facebook page. I guess he didn’t like me telling his fans that we didn’t say he committed arson or theft. He also didn’t like that I pointed out that nothing said would have violated Facebook’s terms of service so that reporting it would not get his post deleted like he said and that he had to have deleted it himself.
Idiots still whining because we are picking on their hero?
Why??
(Except that almost no one here was actually picking on him!)
Twist he deleted all the comments that weren’t basically kissing his ass. Oddly enough he left the combat internet stalking crazy guy’s stuff up.
I have a copy of that F/B post that he claims was removed. I pay close attention to written threats directed at me.
@99. “What have you accomplished that qualifies you to judge brave men? Fuck you. Unbelievable.”
I’m going to try this nicely and hope that it takes. There are combat Veterans here. There are wounded warriors here. There are parents of the Fallen who stop by here. There are Veterans and non-Veterans who have lost friends and loved ones in war here. Maybe these folks aren’t worthy of your respect or your admiration. If that’s true, and I hope it’s not, you really did stop at the wrong station when you stopped here.
Of course. I know and love many of these people you mentioned. The Gold Star Moms. My former coworkers. Family, friends. You name it. When I said that, I wasn’t singling out Teti, but anyone who has achieved alot in the military. I was singling out the judgmentalism and harsh words from people who don’t know him, never served with him, just don’t know all the details. Some of the frauds on this site are easy to ID. Because they never served or were low-level people who claim all kinds of grandiose claims. Easy enough to tell a 22 year old is not a MOH General. LOL But some people are worthy of great respect regardless of their flaws or mistakes they make after their military careers. We all do stuff and say stuff we might regret later-but that doesn’t detract from heroic things we might have done in the past-character is built on mistakes as well as successes. ?
@109. My point, which you seem to acknowledge and then discard, is that some of the very people you are denigrating here are the people whose accomplishments and sacrifices you claim to admire. The Teti issue is not a lapse of judgment or an error that was subsequently corrected by him. It is an ongoing issue inasmuch as–as far as I know–he persists in calling himself a “combat veteran.” Some here think little of it; others regard it as playing with words to create a false impression. You are welcome to speak your mind and come out on the issue where you will. Others are likewise free to state their sentiments on the matter.
Well, hell, 2/17th; check his website. He says he was part of an ISA type unit, of which I know of several. He could be telling the truth. He might be lying. If the latter, then shame on him. LOL But if he -was- ISA, or was TDY to CI or State, or any number of Federal agencies, then who knows?
char·ac·ter [kar-ik-ter] Show IPA
noun
1.
the aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing.
2.
one such feature or trait; characteristic.
3.
moral or ethical quality: a man of fine, honorable character.
4.
qualities of honesty, courage, or the like; integrity: It takes character to face up to a bully.
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reputation: a stain on one’s character.
Yes, mistakes and how we handle them build on our “character”. The integrity to admit a misspoken word and the honor to not down play the character of others to build upon our own. Our legacy of honor, integrity and courage is what we leave behind. What legacy is he leaving behind? And what one are you leaving for defending him while disparaging those that did and still do what he claims?
Valkyrie he claims to have been associated with some sort of ISA-type group. Who knows? He might be tellin the truth. There’s shit that goes on in N. Virginia that neither I nor you nor anybody else knows about or would care to know about.
What pisses me off is that Jonn defended him then within minutes he threatened him. Hell in a way I stood up for his “Veteran” status, because I had seen a lot of guys who were American terps who did everything we did just were contractors. A lot of the guys who did recovery missions were contractors. At this point I just think the guy is an asshole.
TSO went and defended the site on his Facebook and Teti wouldn’t even acknowledge that he knew who he was.
At best in my book the guy is a prima Donna asshole right now.
Again, who knows, but this may explain alot:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-12036.htm
That is where you and I differ. I do care to know. Not what or when but who. I think for to long we civilians have turned a blind eye to the real heroes of this country. Not the movie stars and reality stars or the over paid ball players. The men and women who sign a piece of paper saying “Yes, when called upon I will give my life for your freedom for the ideas this country was founded on.” So for someone to claim to be one of these great men or women to spit on the very graves and faces of the ones who give up their family time their lives their very sanity. Or to claim to have done more then their fellow soldiers to be the one who deserves and demands our respect. I personally take great insult, although I know I have no right to. I’m not anyone in the great scheme of things, I’ve done nothing to further the cause. But one thing I can do is also demand that the respect goes to the deserving and not the ones who don’t.
Of course. I understand. But, if you please, :
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12171.html
Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. 🙂
And these links you keep posting relate to the topic at hand (that would be the original one, up at the top of the page) how exactly?
This is the problem with trying to have an intelligent discussion with a fanatic. You are pulling quotes and links outta your ass that have zero to do with our topic. I can do that too!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiaLOzP1lCA
Okay, Naps–let’s split some hairs here. As you may or may not know, I am a submariner; specifically, I spent better than 5 1/2 years on two fast-attack boats (one 688, one 637) with a radcon tour in a deployed area (Guam) wedged in between.
Now, as you also may or may not be aware, we bubbleheads, particularly those in the SSN community, have gone out from time to time and done some, shall we say, “interesting” shit. I cannot think offhand of any SSN which has completed a deployment (Med run, Westpac, etc) which hasn’t received or been eligible for a Navy Expeditionary Medal, or some other sort of Expeditionary Medal, meaning proximity to the bad guys, etc.
At the same time, I have never, and will never consider myself a “combat vet” despite the fact I’ve been closer to the bad guys than a lot of folks ever have or will be. The major difference being is that I’ve never traded fire with them, although if we had, it was because someone somewhere had royally fucked up. Point the first.
Next, we have in the submarine community a group known as “Special Project” boats, namely boats like the USS Halibut, USS Richard B. Russell, and USS Parche, the last of which while she was in commission was awarded NINE–count ’em, NINE–Presidential Unit Citations. No other ship or unit ever won more than one. That should tell you something. Now, I’ve been on Spec Ops on both my boats, but also, again, I’d NEVER claim to have been “Special” projects, forces, or anything else. Point the second.
Semantics and wordplay might be nice, but there’s a very fine line between resume enhancement and just blowing smoke up someone’s ass. As I stated several threads ago, at one point I really didn’t give a shit. But that was before Mr. Teti came in and started acting all butthurt and threatening people. Once he did that, it was junior rodeo on, kids.
Tunafart: Try to keep the links you post relevant, please. That one wasn’t. For details, see
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=35547#comment-838318
In the context of that EO, the term “employee” means exactly that – a Federal employee, military or civilian. Contractors work for and support but are not part of the IC. They’re private individuals working for a private company that has a contract with a Federal entity. That’s all.
Is Sippy back and no one told me? Seriously, I had these flashbacks….
Teti aside, Let’s say it’s not him in particular, but anyone who began to work for DOD in capacities like Seaspray or ISA. You can’t always track them or their pay. Are we agreed? Fine.
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/02/pentagons-black-budget-tops-56-billion/
So it written. So it is done.
Hondo, I was right. SIPPY IS BACK!!!!!
(Runs screaming from the room, throwing things.)
ExPH2. Valkyrie. Others. Do some research. Begin to understand how the federal government works. Understand pay. Do you know what “Appropriations” are? Do you know what House subcommittees do? How various elements of govt. like Central Intelligence, NSA, and DOD are funded and organized? Learn.
Unfortunately I suspect that I have been discussing US foreign policy and military affairs with older individuals who may or may not have had strokes recently. In that case, change Depends and drive on, there, people.
I’ve testified before the house defense appropriations and house vets affairs committees on both approps bills and authorizations bills and am willing to bet I know more about the process than you.
Nonetheless none of that has jack shit to do with this. As you would know if you had a single atom of honesty.
Actually senate approps too now that I think if it. Back when Stevens was chair of a subcommittee.
Oh do ya now? 🙂 Okay, then would YOU mind explaining to these ancient fucks that a person can work for more than one part of DOD at the same time? And that many things one does in the military are not divulged to Congress? Let alone broadcast into their living rooms? They’re locked on to this Teti bullshit and they don’t know that one can be an Army E7 and work temporarily for DEVGRU.
Not even a little germane again. Speculation doesn’t change anything. But you keep going bro. Best of luck to you.
Tunafrackingasshole, you really are denser than a Staley ball on a hot summer day.
House/Senate committees have nothing to do, whatsoever, with the subject of this column, which is as follows: Does anyone know what the hell Teti is talking about?
Either stick to the subject or piss off!
Tunafarte, feel free to come to Afghanistan and explain in person. Otherwise feel free to leave the site and look for more tinfoil for your hats.
I can’t wait for him to claim soon that Teti manned a Black Helicopter or was involved in Area 51 secret super squirrel stuff…
I just need to go submit to a urinalysis so I can keep my job as a space shuttle door gunner out here in the Bowl.
Yeah yeah. Anyways, leave the poor guy alone. It would be different if he were a cook, supply guy, admin, or some such MOS. But the fact that he was SF makes it plausible-just plausible- mind you, that he COULD be telling the truth. So, my point. Can you handle it?
I doesn’t fucking matter what he did he is being a bitch about someone writing a positive piece about him. What an asshole.
@126, 136.
I do moron.
You talk to much. Really elucidates you ignorance; possibly bias.
How well do you know Teti?
Fair question.
So Napoleon, I’m guessing this is you? Now resorting to bashing TAH on the SV Facebook page? You should know that both of these sites actively work together on many cases.
You do moron?
Support veterans. Don’t fuck with them over piddly shit.
I don’t know him personally. But I really resent that many of the people posting on this site never served in the military. Or were some kind of obscure rear echelon types…And admit it! But still feel qualified to impugn combat troops…????….
Oh, ya caught me. I reported this site for hate speech, yes.
And yet ironically you have no problem with the HS students over there claiming we are pussies and cowards when Jonn and I have CIBs. So you outrage would seem to be limited to only those who don’t take your position.
High School students? By hate speech I refer to the airsoft enthusiast’s stolen valor article. I wasn’t arguing with you, TSO. Or Jonn. I refer you to ph2, Valkyrie, and a few others.
@135.
Wrong, turd.
Light Infantry, oddball. (CIB, among others, included)
Rear echelon?
Think not.
Get a life? Also, don’t know Teti that well??
How well do you know him? And if you look, I never called him out.
Your shitbaggery is making it worse for him, and you.
You quickly are approaching clown status.
I don’t know what high school students you’re talkin about in connection with your CIBs…???…I’ve been dending this Teti guy all day-I don’t know why…The whole thing just seems like a bunch of bored oldsters settin around spitting on people they don’t understand.
And exactly where, fishpot, do you get the information that many of the people posting on this site have never served in the military?
Have you talked to them personally? No.
Have you spent any time with them personally? No.
Have you any source other than your opinion that your statement is factual? No.
And just who, specifically, can you verify as having no military service but posting on this site? No one.
So, basically, you’re just running off at the mouth as do all attention-seeking twinks just like you, and if you can’t divert the content of this and other columns to your liking, you get your nickers in a wad.
I see the Facebook image is no longer available. What’s the matter? Worried that our super-secret secret squirrel face recognition software will track you down and leave acorns in your mailbox?
You are a seriously boring, unoriginal piece of work.
NT, did you even make it to the fourth grade before you dropped out of school and started drawing welfare?
Get this into that dormant organ you have for a brain, tunashit: Teti has NEVER served as a member of the military, any branch of it, in a combat arena.
His records say so.
He’s lying about it to make money from it.
When people lie on their resumes, they usually don’t get the job or they get fired from it, and that’s what has him in a panic mode: he’s been found out.
And you are an asshole.
facebook image? Stolen valor deleted it. Here it is.
A kid who wears camo and insignia in his airsoft group. Not stolen valor. But people attacked anyway. No thinking. Just hatred and rabid vitriol…???…
Sporkmaster: Pretending to be a Officer IS Stolen Valor, look at the Captain Bars on his right shoulder.
OWB stated that all manner of people who “are connected with the military in some way” post in these forums. So I assumed that most of you are bitter old fuckers who have no love for life anymore; sitting around drinking cheap whiskey and contemplating suicide…Am I right?
Sporkmaster: Lets see.
1.No, 33
2.Rarely drink and when I do, it is not third rate crap.
3.Not even close.
Is there anything else you would like to be wrong about today?
No.
@146.
Is that you?
Fucking awesomesauce!
I bet it is!
Needed the stress relief.
What a clown!
GT, the guy is a pedo and a pervert.
Look at the tatt. And why does he have his hands on that kid’s crotch, for God’s sake?
Creeping me out.
PEDOS OUT!!!!!
I’m going to gag.