Dude, he served in MI
I used to listed to Steve Czaben everyday, and he had this funny thing where he grew up “on the mean streets of McLean Virginia” where some people were so broke they had carports and above ground swimming pools. It always cracked me up, because McLean is about 2 lifetimes outside my price range, and that’s if I save money for once.
Anyway, this shit about Breanna Manning is absolutely killing me:
A military psychologist who treated Bradley Manning said there was no support available for him to cope with his gender identity disorder and that Manning suffered greatly in a “hyper-masculine environment” that was hostile towards gay soldiers.
Um, dude. You served in MI. You smuggled out the info on a Lady GaGa CD, and it didn’t draw anyone’s attention.
Seriously, name a less hyper-masculine group than MI. I have nothing against MI, but the only people less hyper-masculine are the guys at DLI. You could be sitting naked in a tub with Andy Dick, Antoine Dodson and Elton John while listening to Cher and stand a better than average shot of being more hyper-masculine than a random 35 series dude.
Category: Politics
After I left the conversation the subject turned to pizza; Makes me hungry right now for a Chicago deep-dish with extra-everything…
#50: I grew up in Hawaii, and I LOATH “hawaiian pizza”, damn pineapple has no place on a pizza, none whatsoever…
Blackfive, cleanup in Aisle 3…
Calling Blackfive, MI is having some issues here… 🙂
TSO, you should KNOW better lololol
Combat Historian: same here. Not really too fond of ham, salami, or chopped/sliced tomatoes on a pizza, but those are at least edible. But pineapple? Um, no. That’s “Dundee test” material.
As for anchovies: that’s fishing bait. I don’t eat bait. (smile)
Just throw bacon on it, shoot the little punk and let’s continue with our lives
One thing I could never figure out about Manning. Why the hell didn’t he just enlist in the USAF? Now there is a service branch currently losing the small crumbs of masculinity that it once had in the STS and TACP communities. Manning could have stayed in the Chair Force for 20 years and no one would have batted an eye (well, they might have done that, just not in a bad way, IYKWIMAITTYD.) Take it from me, I spent two decades flying helos for the Air Force, it’s a nice place for people who don’t really want to be in the military, especially the dirty, smelly parts of it.
The USAF – Where PT is a four-letter word….
Hypermasculine, eh? Wasn’t there a SEAL who left service and then had his gender “reassigned”? Well, I guess that a moot point since SEALs are known for their mental strength. Manning not so much, I guess.
Do you know what the worst thing about being in MI is? You have to tell your Court Martial you are Gay.
@56 This guy was a Drill Sargent for the USAF.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/ukbuckeye/Bob-Ross-Is-Chuck-Norris1.jpg
@56. The USAF has spent many years cultivating a reputation and image of being loosey-goosey, I’ll give you that. But gay? I don’t see it–not when there’s another branch that walks funny and wears white suits and white shoes.
Spent enough time at Chanute AFB to appreciate a place called the Flying Tomato. They had a stuffed pizza that was fantabulous. It was DEEP and heavy.
@60
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4183/storminnormanri0.png
Funny how tons of those Phonies would want to be from said mailigned service.
What is worse, being that White Shoe wearing service or have their Football team beat the monkey snot out of your for almost a DECADE.
Let’s see: Manning hit a girl who outranked him (right?) and she beat the crap out of him. He curled up in a ball and cried.
I get it now.
He’s a slacker who decided to get even with his Big Boss the Army ’cause the Army and everyone in it was mean to him, and hit him back when he hit someone. So he thought he’d get even by stealing stuff and get some stuff into his legend at the same time. But it backfired on him. Having never been punished for any of the stupid things he ever did, he’s desperate for a do-over right now, so he’s ‘sorry’.
I’m sure he is sorry.
None of his ‘gheyboy’ and bar-licking antics in jail worked, either. He just doesn’t have what it takes to pretend that he’s crazy.
And Klinger looked better in any dress he ever wore.
@62. The General didn’t walk funny and the pic doesn’t show his shoes–oxford, black. As for the football matter, yes, I’ll have to concede that one. But there’s always next year. Gay is forever.
@64 Show me an Infantryman that does not walk funny and I will show one that has never humped their ruck. I will concede the the General did have Black Shoes but this clothing item would give pause to anyone.
18-10. Items normally worn with the Army white uniform
a. Accessories.
(3) Cape (officers only) (para 27-6c).
A CAPE, just becuase Batman wore one does not mean it is cool.
TSO – “Seriously, name a less hyper-masculine group than MI”
I’ll take you up on that challenge! As a former 46R and 46Q, I will say with high confidence that public affairs is MUCH less “hyper-masculine” than MI!
Bingo, Ex-PH2. He’s simply a weak-willed slacker with no sense of duty or responsibility to or for anyone but himself. His sexual orientation/issues are irrelevant to his crimes.
Yeah, he’s sorry all right. He’s sorry he got caught. I don’t really think he gives a damn about the damage he caused.
I agree, Hondo.
If you’re going to do bad stuff, make sure you’re out the way when the fit hits the shan. This one didn’t think it would happen.
@55, do you know how you make bacon more manly? add more bacon!
@hondo and combat historian, you have to know a gay guy invented ‘hawian pizza’ because no straight guy ever said “you know what would go great on this? Pine apple!”
Gender is not the only thing about which he is confused. Perhaps the most glaring would be wanting to “show” big Army what happens when he is “mistreated,” but wanting to do it quietly, without being caught. Impossible to do both.
Smitty: not necessarily. Some people love sugar-cured and/or honey or pineapple glazed ham. I detest it (smoked or salt-cured, different story), and that’s probably why I find Hawaiian so-called pizza detestable. But others like it.
Still, IMO: it sucks. The Royal Wazoo.
@69
do you know how you make bacon more manly? add more bacon!
I would re-write this as “do you know how you make bacon more manly? add shots of bourbon!”
Do NOT fruit the pizza!!!
If you your bacon to be more manly, do not buy a pack of sliced bacon.
But a smoked pork belly, and cut it yourself. That’s where bacon comes from.
That should be ‘BUY a smoked pork belly.’
Gack! Not enough caffeine yet for my fingers to see the keyboard properly.
the only pizza worth the time of day is Casey’s General Store Supreme pizza. end of story. FIN.
As for breanna, I’m sure his favorite topping on pizza was sausage, lots of sausage.
I’m inferring he likes D***
Well, the only MoH awardeee I ever met was John Cavaiani at DLI. (He could sue some help about now, too, please Google his web site.) Pretty sure he had no identity issues. OTH, yes, there were some ‘way off-kilter personalities there.
Pizza consists of dough, sauce, greasy cheese, and lots of dead animal. Vegetarian and fish nonsense is NOT pizza, any more than a Smart car is a fucking car.
I got hammered with Cavaiani back in December of last year in Vegas. Great dude.
John Cavaiani at DLI
Well, if he needs hits, fine, but what’s his website link?
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2013/07/moh-awardee-sgm-jon-cavaiani-needs-help.html
Blackfive explains the situation
OK now I was both ASA and DLI….I had opportunity to get assigned to some pretty fast high end units in my time. I saw my fair share of pussies in all specialties and branches.
Let us face it Breanna was a shitbird from getgo….
Just because he was MI is no reason to say MI is less manly than any other specialty. Hell I know of ASA and MI types as well as Air Force techies who are proven warriors. for example this tech weenie who rose to the occasion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Etchberger
I know Recon Marines who were pussies…. You never know the fabric of a warrior until chips are down and the time comes to bring fire.
the military like all organizations is a reflection of our society. We had leadership asleep at the wheel so far as these POS that have damaged our republic.
” A house leaks from the roof”……..
I am a Proud Graduate of DLI and am Proud of my Service as an Intel Dweeb…..in the ASA
For those who say MI is un-masculine.. I ask, have you ever met a 96 Romeo?
FrostyCWO: we were at DLI together. CM 96-97.
Big John, IntelDweebs UNITE!
@ Big John- Trust me, I’m not saying they are worse, or anything of the sort. In fact, I have a few friends on here and elsewhere that are DLI folks. (Nicki, Sniper et al.) All I am saying is that those MOSs aren’t exactly “Hyper-Masculine” in the bad sense. I don’t see anyone beating a dude up for being effeminate in those units, but they probably would in various combat arms units.
Well, I spent over half of my career in MI (96B, I think the current MOS is 35B?) and while I think there are less “hyper masculine” MOSs (think: medical) I get TSO’s point.
Although I’ll say in my day it was not uncommon for a combat arms officer to be assigned to an MI unit and then to try and “macho” the unit up with lots of road marches, PT, silly hooah songs, etc.
MI folks generally speaking tend to be at one end of the bell curve or another. When I was in Germany, our track (M577) for the division G2 DTAC was nicknamed “Chester the Molester.” And we actually painted that on the side (somehow I don’t think that would go over in today’s kinder, gentler Army.)
But getting back to “Hyper Masculine” MOS’s, can we all agree there’s none more masculine than an Airborne, Ranger, SF officer? Because if so, maybe you could read up about my former Battalion commander, Col. David Schroer (ret) who commanded 3/3 SFG from 1993 to 1996 or so.
And who now goes by the name “Diane.” 😉
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1840754,00.html
@86, that is awesome.
FTR, I’ve NEVER seen a linguist or an MI dude in general getting beaten up by anyone in infantry unit or otherwise for being slightly effeminate. The general attitude I’ve seen is, “We’re deployed together. We work together. Don’t touch my ass, and we’re good.”
BTW – my last comment was supposed to be that PAO folks are generally even less hyper-masculine than MI weenies. I need more damn coffee.
I always hate hearing people knock MI like they are a bunch of pussies.
I was NCOIC of an S2 section in Afghanistan. 4 of my 5 guys went out on patrol or on 3 – 5 day missions and ended up earning Combat Action Badges because they took contact just about every time they were out. Yes they EARNED THEM. They weren’t on a FOB or COP that took indirect and got them that way. They were in the fight right next to the 11 Bravos. And you know what… the Infantry guys appreciated it and took their intel seriously because those MI guys have been fighting along side them. As an Intel guy you need to understand what the Infantry guys are seeing and what goes on out there to truly give a good assessment of the enemy situation.
Most MI guys in Ranger Regiment end up going through Ranger School. 160th SOAR MI have to attend the Special Ops Course. SF teams have an Intelligence Sergeant that goes through the All Source Intelligence course and after earning the MOS 18F is technically an MI guy. Delta/SMU and Great Skills recruit MI people to support their operations. CIA guys are glorified government Intelligence Analysts.
So you might want to re-think the MI world before you bash the 35 series guys.
@86. I’m not sure what any of that means but he sure makes for an oogly woman. Next time I THINK I made a major error, I’ll recall this recent story:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/guy_again_eKq3Jw6LjgsjpBdmZklrtM
@36
BWoodman,
I was with 4th Squadron (Air) at Feucht, 88-91. I was at Camp Gates the night the Wall came down…. That’s a great story for a different time!
I have met some solid MI guys and some not-so-solid (and less than intelligent) MI guys.
As with most MOS/Branches, you get the good and the bad.
Everyone needs to chill just a bit I think. This post was a joke.
Besides, are some people actually arguing that being “hyper masculine” is a good thing? Really?
I watched infantry guys argue about what a poop would look like if you lived on corn, blue berries and peanuts for a week. That’s just idiotic. But if you MI guys want to be offended and say you are every bit as idiotic as my 11B brothers, please, by all means knock yourselves out.
TSO, I, for one am only ribbing. I get where you are coming from.
@93.
“I watched infantry guys argue about what a poop would look like if you lived on corn, blue berries and peanuts for a week.”
Never though about this one.
You have given me something to mull over this afternoon.
I think we all Agree no matter what the MOS, Manning is a fetid,wretched queefing Pussy of the first order.
“Seriously, name a less hyper-masculine group than MI.”
I started as an active duty Infantryman and ended as a guard UAV guy. In between I spent most of my time* holding 96R. And as one of “knuckle dragging thugs”** of the MI community to say! that…well… most of the evidence does support that statement.
*I’ve deployed as both Brigade level analyst and part of a CI team. Because the 1st Sgt. said so thats why!
**I had a E5 interrogator call me that once when I was young SPC4. Apparently I intimidated her by stating that as Sgt She should know how to field strip and reassemble an M-16. I spent 20 minutes watching her try insert the bolt backwards before I stepped in to help.
I’m Aviation. We wash our hands of stuff like this. We have grease on our hands, brass all over the bird, and even the medics are badass swinging on a wire to get someone while getting shot at.
But isn’t there still a Laundry MOS? 92S?
I bet that is up there…
For those of you out of the service, what can get any more hyper masculine in the field but Bacon Jerky! That’s right, it’s like beef jerky only with bacon! And yeah, that little turd just didn’t have what it takes to hack it, so this is his way of ‘punishing’ the Army that should have never let him get past AIT
Aw dude: you’re gonna hurt my feelings you keep on disrespecting my MI corps.
Seriously, if I wasn’t firmly secure in my masculinity having been a 12E/12B (Atomic Demolition & Munitions Specialist/Combat Engineer) as my Regular Army MOS before becoming a 97B (CI special agent) in the reserves (the USAR recruiter was _very_ excited to see a walk-in who already had a TS clearance)….
… well, I wouldn’t disagree that the MI career fields tolerate a bit more latitude in their boffins (i.e., _geeks_, but useful ones) when it comes to being, shall-we-say, a bit more “metro” than the average infantry or combat engineer soldier.
Quibble: I think it wasn’t actually a Lady Gaga _CD_, it was a “thumb drive” that Manning’s NCOICs were idiotic enough to let him bring into and out-of a “secure” facility (even if it was a field SCIF); to say nothing of actually letting him plug it into any of their hardware.