GQ’s “Least Influential people” list
According to TVNewser, GQ magazine has released their list of the twenty-five least influential people alive;
Also on the list: Tia and Tamera Mowry (#4). (Tamera married Fox News correspondent Adam Housley over the summer); also Tina Brown (#17), John Boehner (#24) and Pres. Obama (#25). Topping the list former GOP candidate Tim Pawlenty.
You know what that means, right? That means I’m more influential than the President…so are you. Seems to me that the President being on the list should lead the story, though, not Ed Schultz. And I wonder where Joe Biden falls on the list – he should be the number one, the retard.
I wonder how the White House is going to spin this story.
Thanks to ROS for the link.
Category: Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Media
Upnorth, I’ll be the first to claim that those that charge Bush with “planning” 911 are goofy. I also think that the “fast and furious” charge of Obama arming drug cartels is stupid.
While Solyndra was a bad loan, it certainly is nothing compared to the 8 billion dollar “loss” from military contractors that Fox barely reported. WSJ ranked Solyndra as one of the next big venture stocks, officials from both the Obama and Bush administration saw Solyndra as a good company to invest in, the deal was accompanied by private investors to minimize the risk.
In retrospect was the Solyndra deal a mistake? Yes, one made by the conservative Walton family as well. Was it a fuck up of Bush proportions? No.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about sporkmaster, but satisfaction of military health care is amongst the highest, right next to medicare:
http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=2836
@UpNorth: and if Obama held a presser tomorrow and stated that 2+2=4 you’d insist that it MUST equal 5. And four is a communist number.
See? I can play the game of absurdo comparisons too! It is math, the increase in debt is mostly from the decrease in revenue and the increase in spending ALL caused by the shitty George W Bush great recession. It’s math.
Plus for YEARS reagan blamed everything but bad weather on Carter and for virtually all of Clinton’s Presidency Conservatives gave Reagan Credit for the boom. So NOW all of a sudden it’s absolutely verboten that we look in the rear view mirror. NOW when it’s Clearly a conservatives fault, finger pointing is just so gauche.
@42 he kept the war “off the books” by not counting it as part of the budget but instead counting it as “emergency funding”. The CRA had very little to do with the housing crises. Very few subprime loans were given out under it. Read the financial crises inquiry report. The whole talking point that a 1992 bill caused a 2007 disaster is just Conservatives convenient way of blaming the crises on Teh Black.
That the way that military does medical care is different compared to regular clinics.
For example. How many people get told by their clinics that all walk ins should come in between 06:30-7:30. That the waiting list for appointments will get longer and harder to get. That because the care is free that people will come in for things that they would not have if they had to pay for it.
Also if we go to the new system, will it go the having anyone that wants to call in sick have to go to sick call and report back to work the similar way that the military works. That it goes to the quarter system were the doctor has to recommend and the boss has to approve to have time off.
Its would you be willing to deal with this red tape to receive cheaper healthcare?
Oh well… trolls are akin to Zombies. You can talk to them, try to reason with them, but in the end all they want is your brains. [shrug]
Insipid, you must not know too many military doctors. Let me tell you this. I went through the WTB system. I have no words to describe the private Hell that was. If there is a Hell on Earth I think it looks like a WTB. Also Reagan was pretty correct in just about everything he did. His handling of the ATC strike was actually what forced the Soviets to take America seriously again (which they did not during detente), also his ballsy move to have the lines tapped by USS Halibut and others essentially meant that he had the upper hand. Lastly anyone that denies that there was an absolutely staggering boom during the 80’s needs to get their head checked. now look at Carter. He: 1) Allowed Iran to fall to wackos then got a lot of good men killed on a hair brained scheme to rescue the hostages, and failed to garner really any respect from the international treaty. The Carter Trijos treaty was his SOLE foreign policy victory, which passed by, are you ready ONE VOTE and is actually a shitty treaty. Also had he failed to get it passed, the Panamanians would have set fire to the canal and attempted to drain the locks/lake, which would have taken years of rainfall to replace, and also required US intervention in a Jungle WORSE than Vietnam, less than 4 years After Vietnam. . . in short we would have been screwed. 2) blamed the economic recession on “malaise” and failed to grasp that he caused a large portion of it by not ensuring oil production domestically. While this is something that far too many presidents have done, Carter takes a huge slice of the blame cake because it became apparent that there was such a need during his presidency. Furthermore, he failed to inspire confidence, and his manner of speech tended to come off as blaming the citizen. 3) was given to pointless gestures. 1980 Olympics. You don’t boycott, you make sure you beat the ever-loving shit out of them at every sport. If you have the threaten… Read more »
Should read “if his policies are so bad Why . . . did Barry extend them?”
Crediting the firing of union members with the fall of the Soviet Union 11 years later is such a stupid hypothesis that I just need to state it to discredit you. I think Iran allowed Iran to fall to wackos. And it happened largely because of our interference in a democratically elected government that caused much of our problems with Iran in the first place. It is the Conservative idea that we can interfere wherever we want whenever we want that leads to much of the problems. Not every military plan goes as expected. But Carter’s miscalculation caused the death of 9 Americans and 1 Iranian. Bush’s caused the deaths of over 4 thousand Americans and up to a million Iraquis. So the olympics must go on no matter what? suppose the olympics were scheduled to be held in Germany in 1940 instead of 36, do you think you’d be all for Roosevelt going there while his allies are at war and shaking Hitler’s hand in the spirit of comradarie? The Soviet Union invaded a country committing an act of war and aggression and your “solution” is to pretend it doesn’t happen and go there and “kick there ass”. This would 1. Send the message that we don’t care and 2. give the Soviet union an economic boost int he process. Dumb idea. As far as the “accounting trick”. It WOULD be a trick if Clinton were the first to use it or the last. The fact is that the books have ALWAYS been kept that way. Bush counted the SS surplus as income as did carter, ford, nixon, kennedy and reagan. Whether it should be done this way is debatable, but to call it a “trick” for Clinton is just a way of trying to take away his deserved credit. Are you saying recreation programs don’t lead to less crime? Because there’s several law enforcement organizations that would beg to differ. As far as “Barry’s” gloating, you’re following the Limbaughessque tradition of making up character traits that aren’t there. His flaws of Obama just “happen” to coincide with the… Read more »
By the way, Gitmo’s not being closed was the fault of Congress who would not fund the extradition, not President Obama.
Sorry… I stopped reading inspud (spelling intentional) when he proclaimed Medicare “popular”. It
Certainly isn’t with the medical community.
Welcome to ThisAintHell, Insipid. Where book learnin’ is frowned upon.
Tell me, RCN, do you ever read Kipling? How about Hemingway? Maybe you should sometime. You might understand what it means to be a Veteran, and really deep down a Man.
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
If you can understand this then you will understand us.
“It is the
ConservativeProgressive’s idea that we can interfere wherever we want whenever we want that leads to much of the problems.” Fixed if for you, I thought you were addressing Libya, sub-Saharan and East Africa.“By the way, Gitmo’s not being closed was the fault of Congress who would not fund the extradition, not President Obama.”. If he wanted it closed, all he has to do is issue the Executive Order, he’s certainly fond of it for other things, like immigration via “prosecutorial discretion”, the Establishment of the Rural Council, EO#13575, Establishing a Coordinated Government-wide Initiative to Promote Diversity and Inclusion in the Federal Workforce, EO#13583.
“Are you saying recreation programs don’t lead to less crime? Because there’s several law enforcement organizations that would beg to differ.”. Why is the Federal government involved, at all, in “recreation programs”?
“911 was and is entirely Bush’s fault. Clinton had a plan to take out Osama and he handed it to Bush “. Seriously? What was that plan, saying “no thanks” when Osama was offered to him, more than once?
Hey, Doc, I felt we should update Rudyard’s Poem for today’s Conservative:
If you can call those who have been handed it all
“Salt of the earth” because they speak with a drawl;
cast those who came from naught with an “elitist” pall,
Make allowance for crimes of rich, but none for poor.
Pretend that Michelle is fat and Barack is “angry”,
Let corporations fuck you like a whore,
or think the rich are victims and the poor are stingy,
Hate money for poor, but love unpaid for war;
If you can shout—for the Saudi’s to fuck you faster;
If you can think—global warming a scheme,
Love your Pres. Hands clenched, kissing his Saudi Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fsA5w1LqJc
And treat a Dem Pres. Bowing as just the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6fL7Y4BZA
If you can weep over Hilton’s estate tax
Defend keeping subsidies for oil,
And insist social programs should all get the axe,
Tongue-bath the rich, and heap scorn on those who toil;
If you can excuse all Wall-Street’s Transgressions
And scream about too much regulation,
And blame loans to poor blacks for this recession,
Weep for the wealthy’s unfair taxation:
If you can think Newt’s a man of virtue
And Obama to have a black “attitude”,
And think all five bitches towards Cain are untrue!
Apologize for Bush but give Obama no latitude.
If you can claim great love for America,
But hate half of all Americans,
Let the rich play you like a harmonica,
STILL think Obama Muslim-African:
Think guns to be a harmless distraction
And thinking of Reagan makes you want to cum,
And those who smoke weed should be put in traction,
And—which is more—you’re Conservative, Son!!
Upnorth: He DID sign an executive order closing Gitmo:
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-22/politics/guantanamo.order_1_detention-guantanamo-bay-torture?_s=PM:POLITICS
Republicans AND Democrats refused to fund the closing. It was 96 to 4 filibuster proof refusal.
Oh, and ONCE AGAIN the CBO states that we should be thankful for the Stimulus:
By CBO’s numbers, the $800 billion stimulus added up to 0.9 million jobs in 2009, 3.3 million jobs in 2010 and 2.6 million jobs in 2011.
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/195181-cbo-says-obama-stimulus-still-helps-economy
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=3026
And here’s some handy charts for those of you who don’t like all this Readin’.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3252
Well bubblehead,if it’s not popular with the Medical community it’s because they don’t know any better.
In 1960 the median pay for physicians was just over 10k.
In 1966, the first year of Medicare it rose to 15k.
Two years later it rose to 24k, the largest increase of Doctor’s pay in history.
40 years later the median salary for Primary Care physicians was 186k and specialists it is 340k. This is 100k more than there salaries would have increased if it were just adjusted for inflation. There’s been a similar increase in nurses salaries as well.
So thanks to Medicare, our doctors are- by far- the wealthiest doctors on the planer.
Anonymous, you are a turd. Rush Limbaugh has more influence than all of the moon bat clowns on the left could falsely make up for themselves. Too Bad So Sad the GOP is coming back to your neighborhood.
If it is “coming back” it’s too bad and so sad for the country.
@68 – “Rush Limbaugh has more influence than all of the moon bat clowns on the left could falsely make up for themselves.”
Is that really a complimentary statement on the ability of the right to engage in critical thinking?
I was about to say something similar CI. But to be honest I never understood the (mostly Conservative) contention that successful= good or right. Bill O’Reilly does that a lot. Broke Back Mountain is a bad movie because on one will see it (this is before it went on to gross over 100 million), he has many times more viewers than Rachel Maddow therefore his opinion on the issues carries more weight. His book sells more than some liberals therefore the liberal ought to be discounted (he did this with Anne Coulter).Rush Limbaugh has many times more listeners than all progressive listeners put together.
While all that is certainly true (except the Brokeback Mountain) I fundamentally deny the notion that because someone is rich or successful that they are fundamentally smarter or more artistic or of better quality. And i’m not saying that successful movies and shows are necessarily bad either. Love the Godfather and Sixty Minutes and i even like Stephen King.
To surrender your objective and subjective judgment to financial statements is the ultimate act of craven obsequiousness.
@71 – My point wasn’t directed towards financial success, it was in regards to a distinct lack of challenging preconceived notions and disengagement from critical thinking that ideologues in both parties have surrendered to.
Well, yeah, when the listeners proudly proclaim their selves to be “dittoheads” you’re not talking about independent thinkers.
Where i take issue with you is in the “both parties” meme. I think that also is a knee jerk reaction to prevent critical thinking.
“Critical thinking” is meaningless these days. Leftists use the phrase to mean “agree with me or you’re a moron even though I’ve presented no facts relevant to the discussion at hand”. Those Ron Paul fuckwits use the critical thinking thing right before they they start telling everyone to “read a book sometime”. There’s no “critical thinking” involved in being an American brand liberal, either of the far left or the far right…it’s all feelings and emotions mixed with a measure of selfishness.
Really? You think that the Democratic base engages in critical thinking with regularity?
My opposition to ‘both parties’ is in direct response to the damage that the political duopoly has done to our Republic. The American people by and large, treat politics as a team sport, where only two teams are in the conference, and if you’re not on one team, then you’re the ‘enemy’.
Yes, because progressives are all just “free thinkers” who happen to think the same exact thoughts as the rest of the “free thinking” herd. I mean… I’ve never seen MMFA or Center for American Progress talking points spread verbatim on comment sections for news articles or political forums.
Never happens.
/sarc
@Jonn – ““Critical thinking” is meaningless these days.”
So do you just surrender to mind numbing party posturing then?
Yeah, CI, be careful not to read the whole comment, the answer might be in there somewhere.
Insipid you completely missed the point of that post. It was explaining what it is we are. I’d be willing to bet dollars to dinars that most of the men (and maybe a few women) know deep down what those words mean.
Having said that your dogmatic defense of bad policy based on faulty figures and misquotes illustrates the problem we are facing. We as a nation chuck out common sense for wishful thinking. At what point do you think lofty ideals and statements will become a reflection of theSoviets. Rattling the saber and blaming grain shortages, and nit piss poor management, for the bread lines. One lesson should be plain from the 20th century… CENTRAL PLANNING DOESN’T WORK.
Like the man said: the more the plans fail the more the planners plan
I never said that AT ALL. What i said was there’s a tendency amongst some to declare both sides the same simply so they can gaze down upon the two groups with disdainful superiority.
The so called “left” actually engages in this practice MUCH more than the right, with disastrous electoral results.
It wasn’t Fox News or Rush Limbaugh that caused the most damage to Al Gore. It was the “Liberals” Maureen Dowd, who flogged the Naomi Wolf scandal and had SIX articles of Al Gore talking to his bald spot (including one 2 days before the election) and it was Frank Rich who championed the Love Story non-story. Both these liberals loved to tell you how there was no difference between Bush and Gore and delighted in their ability to eat their own.
I truly believe the disdainful “left”, Arianna Huffington, Cenk Uygur, Ed Schultz, Jane Hamsher were at least as responsible for the defeat in 2010 as the tea party. Because they claim to be from the left and are critical other folks from the left give them FAR more credence than they deserve. They mistake criticism for objectivity. And they forget that these folks are often making millions by bashing Dems. They put out the lie that both sides are the same that all of PBO’s accomplishment favored corporation, and idiot “lefties” bought it.
As anyone who studies history or law enforcement knows there isn’t always two sides to every argument. The Nazis, the Kahns and the Communists were just brutal sonsofbitches. And if you start out the saying BOTH sides committed brutalities in a struggle you’re stating a truth but ignoring reality. The South was more at Fault than the North, Obama is a good President, Bush was an awful President, sometimes it’s a ball sometimes it’s a strike.
Very rarely are the two sides the same. Declaring everything to be the same is not engaging in critical thinking, it’s abstaining from it.
John, Ron Paul is no liberal. Just because you don’t like someone does not make them liberal.
CI: If you regard the base as Obama and his supporters, yes i think they do engage in critical thinking. If the base is Jane Hamsher and Arianna, no, not so much. It depends on who we’re talking about.
Rachel Maddow? Ed Schultz? Keith Olbermann? Yeah, keep searching for a critical thinker on those lists, bud.
Face it, insipid–you support a party whose stated goals and actions have been to tear down this country and turn it into another version of the Soviet/Chinese/(insert despotic regime here) state. Please show me, given their policies, goals, and statements, anything to the contrary.
Your conclusions are debatable. Al Gore is his own worst enemy (as was John Kerry) I think the defeat in 2010 has more to do with disgust by the class, character, and antics that surrounded Obamacare. The Left didnt help their own cause because they kept screaming “MORE MORE” while the rest of the country was trying desperately to ask “wait a min, does it really have to be THIS way?” you also have Grayson, and Pelosi… Those media figures were actually ignored by the mainstream a long time ago because their bias is so painfully obvious, and in Huffington’s case chalk full of plagerism, the rest so full of inaccuracies or outright lies… Only Ideolouges take them at their word anymore
@79 – “What i said was there’s a tendency amongst some to declare both sides the same simply so they can gaze down upon the two groups with disdainful superiority.”
Is that any worse than a Democrat or Republican gazing upon anyone who strays from the party line with disdainful superiority?
“Very rarely are the two sides the same. Declaring everything to be the same is not engaging in critical thinking, it’s abstaining from it.”
Both parties preach principles, but practice the expansion of government and curtailment of civil liberties of societal subsets they oppose. The political duopoly has combined with the media to form a sad menage-a-trois. The portion of the American populace that still engages in critical thinking is left largely in the corner with a box of Kleenex’s.
You didn’t seem to provide any answer, now did you….
See, that’s why I’m a conservative and not a liberal, CI.
Liberals tell you that they have all the answers, and that all you have to do is sit back and believe them.
Conservatives tell you that you have to find your own answers, they’ll just stay out of your way while you find them.
Read the whole comment for the context of the statement you quoted, dimbulb. Don’t blame me for your inability to comprehend what you’re reading.
There’s reasons why I’m a conservative as well, and you’re statement seems to be aligned with them……..however, the GOP has in my lifetime, not been aligned with that statement.
@Jonn….’dimbulb’….classy.
Certain portions of the GOP have. Unfortunately, most of them left when Reagan left office. Even he wasn’t perfect, but the prospect of a second Carter term would have been far, far worse.
Oh, and the NH Union Leader today endorsed Newt. BIG problem for Romney.
@91 – I suppose there is truth to that.
FWIW, if I recall hearing correctly, the NH Union Leader has an abysmal record of picking the winning horse.
They picked Reagan. And frankly, I’d rather have gone with Buchanan over Dole, but what the hell, right?
Basically, they just kicked Mitt right in the balls in a state he should have had locked up before he even announced. As it is, he’s actually going to have to campaign here, and even that might not be enough with the Masshole transplants.
I’m with you on Buchanan…ironically, the only time I’ve seen any GOP campaign apparatus for this electoral season was when I was checking out of the Wentworth in NH…the Romney people were getting prepped for his arrival.
I’m not so sure that just because of proximity, NH ‘should’ be a lock for him….but I’m in VA, so I obviously don’t have the on-the-ground aspect.