How to let the world know you’re an idiot if it’s not general knowledge quite yet
Sporkmaster sends us an interview with one of the pepper-sprayed students in the picture above and it’s pretty hillarious;
“Move or we’re going to shoot you,” Pike is reported to have yelled at one student right before delivering pepper spray. Then, turning to his fellow officers and brandishing the can in the air, “Don’t worry, I’m going to spray these kids down.”
That would have been a warning to me that I’m about to get sprayed, causing my feet to move and get me out of range. But, ya know, I’m fairly bright.
W: I still have a burning sensation in my throat, lips and nose, especially when I start coughing, or when I’m lying in bed. Everyone who got sprayed has sustained effects like this.
XJ: Can you tell us how it happened, from where you were sitting?
W: I’d pulled my beanie hat over my eyes, to protect my eyes. I received a lot of pepper spray in my throat. I vomited twice, right away, then spent the next hour or two dry heaving. Someone said they saw him spray down my throat intentionally, but I was so freaked out, and I was blinded by my hat, so I can’t verify. I did get a large quantity of pepper spray in my lungs.
See, that’s where I have an advantage over this student, apparently…my body came equipped with lips that I can close, thus not allowing pepper spray into my lungs and throat. I know, it must sound like I’m bragging about my superior genetic development, but I’m just pointing out how I can avoid pepper-spray in my lungs, whereas this poor youngster can’t, I guess.
He used military grade pepper spray on us.
Yeah, because military grade pepper spray uses a different pepper than the civil grade pepper spray. And it’s got tiny soldiers hidden in it who can pry your mouth open and jump in your throat.
Another student, 20 years old, who was sprayed and then arrested—instead of receiving medical care for the pepper spray exposure, he was made to wait in the back of a police car.
He was made to wait with all of the other innocent perpetrators, right? Of course, he wouldn’t have had to wait in the police car if he’d done what he was told in the first place, right?
One of the reasons I am involved with #OWS, and advocating for an occupy movement on the UC campus, is to fight privatization and austerity in the UC system, and fight rising tuition costs. I think that citizens have the right to get an education regardless of economic condition. Most people are not going to get a job where they can afford to pay off student loans. But to exclude people from knowledge is unconscionable.
If you don’t like people being excluded from getting an education, you should be protesting those public school teachers who spent your class time teaching you how to put condoms on bananas instead of teaching you Constitutional law.
It’s too bad that I wasn’t in Sgt Pike’s position, because I would have done one of those 3 Stooges slap things right down the line of hippies.
Yeah, I can laugh at the stupid hippies complaining about pepper spray because I’ve been tear gassed more times than I can count and I survived without so much as a whimper. So grow up, Junior. There’s a price for everything…and you made the first down payment on your idiotic behavior. To quote Red Foreman; your life is hard because you’re a dumbass.
Category: I hate hippies, Occupy
By the way, I’m not saying this was the wrong thing to do because it might hurt the protestors delicate sensibilities. I’m saying it is the wrong thing to do because a) it is against UC/Davis guidelines and b) it gave the snivelers exactly what they wanted – worldwide attention.
Believe me, I couldn’t give a crap if a few of these chumps had a few coughs and tears. It is the upward draft that a point-blank pepper spraying gives their clueless movement that bothers me.
if we saw a bunch of broken down old vets getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray,
About the only people that would apply to would be the Geezers for Sitting on their Hands, aka the VFP. Most of whom shit their pants when they hear a Harley backfire.
As do you. Get over here, you left another fucking pile on the carpet…(yipe! yipe! yipe!!!)
Michael–would it make you feel better if a few pissed off folks in flyover country just curb-stomped their asses while the cops stood back and laughed? As I stated earlier, isn’t it telling that you don’t hear about this shit in Phoenix, or other more conservative towns? Maybe the thought of pink underwear and moldy bologna sandwiches doesn’t sit well with trust-fund kiddies.
#51 Michael – I hear you, but you are teetering on the brink of supporting appeasement in order to, what? avoid the risk of bad PR? If this provocation didn’t get them the “big bad oppressors of peaceful little ole us” they wanted, they will escalate. In fact, this right here IS an escalation of past provocation because they haven’t gotten that Kent-State moment through 2 months of trying.
@51. The escalation is what they want, so why give it to them? Because despite the certainty that they seek escalation and are provoking that escalation, the larger society has a right to peace and good order. If the police had dragged them from the sidewalk, those photos and videos would have been no more palatable to the pukes and their sympathizers than those that were served up. There is more to come. We all know it. We just don’t know where, when, or what the extent of the violence will be.
You guys are all fucking old vietnam vets that are all butthurt because we lost that war and others. the occupy movement isn’t about the wars overseas nimrods, it’s about financial responsibility and keeping people accountable for their actions. WW1 and on are a bunch of money grabbing ideas created by men who are greedy and are still at it. Go get back on your ventilators and fuck off. you don’t even know what the hell you’re talking about.
Well, well, anon exposes himself as Joey’s alter ego. Nice job, nameless shit bird.
Then, there’s this, which is from the interview Jonn posted. It does give the lie that the Occutards were just blocking the side walk.
http://boingboing.net/2011/11/20/ucdeyetwitness.html
The relevant portion follows:”So, everyone removed the tents, and they were in the process of arresting more people. A collective decision was made on the fly to just sit in a circle arms linked legs crossed, with police officers and “prisoners” in the middle because we didn’t want them arresting only 3 of us. It wasn’t fair that 50 of us were there, and only a few arrested who hadn’t volunteered to be arrested. There was still one walkway open that the police were going to use to walk the arrestees out. I saw some friends of mine sit down there, and they were my friends, so I joined them. We linked arms, legs crossed.
@55,Are you still pissed off at your mother because she let the best part of you run down her chin? Someone obviously didn’t get breast fed,poor baby…
@55
it’s about financial responsibility and keeping people accountable for their actions.
Wrong. It’s about the desire to get something for nothing.
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/11/21/occupy-movement-proposes-refusing-pay-back-loans
That was a very well written opinion piece by Anonymous. I recognize excellent persuasive writing when I see it. She cleverly draws the casual reader in with compliments and finery and, in the seductive call of a Greek siren, lures the reader into agreeing with her. I am now convinced that I do not know what I am talking about. On the other hand, one can view her inane mutterings as the product of a drug-induced rage borne of repeated life failures, rendering her worthy of a Georgia State Takedown followed by an elbow to the throat. Um, I pick B.
Anonymous is a little cranky ever since his little sister told him that his Grandfather french kisses better than him.
#60 Adirondack Patriot:
You missed on that one, dude. Kissing involves the use of the lips, and everyone who is anyone knows that a Chicken does NOT have lips.
Glad that I’d put my coffee down before I read that, AP.
And, that grand dad’s bigger than Anonymous.
My Highlight Reel
“It’s too bad that I wasn’t in Sgt Pike’s position, because I would have done one of those 3 Stooges slap things right down the line of hippies.” –Jonn @Intro
“Can anyone who is defending these protestors please explain to me what compelling message is found by sitting on your ass on the sidewalk?” — Adirondack Patriot
“As for the rest of it, when you are told to get off the fucking sidewalk, you get off and if you don’t, then you get what you get. Why is that so hard for your side to understand?” –Old Trooper @48
“And look… He’s sprays it directly in their faces”. No Shit. Where would you like him to spray them? In their shoes? –Bubblehead Ray @29
You guys are all fucking old vietnam vets
Then I’m the youngest Vietnam veteran you’ll ever meet. Hell, I wasn’t even hitting the terrible twos when I was fighting in Hue during Tet. Those VC took one look at me in my diapers and M-16 and just said, “Fuck it, we don’t want any of that.”
Anonymous,
Again, failure on your part. Commenters here have seen every war since Viet Nam. Desert Storm. The Mog. Desert Fox. OEF. OIF. A number of them multiple times. Representing every service (yep, even saw a Coastie here a time or two). And, from every component: Regular, Reserve, and Guard. Infantry, Artillery, tankers, pilots, and even Navy types (though the Lord forgives sin).
What have you done? Exactly.
I have a YouTube link on a protest. You will see Anonymous as she “stars” last in the video. This wench sounds just like Anonymouse writes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKpbD1kQaAc&feature=youtu.be
Sparky used biowar on the VC?
Tsk tsk… another war criminal self-identifies…
How do some of you people use italics and bold here? Or will I not see the dawn if you tell me?
Joe are you prejudiced against men in fraternities? I find that highly narrow minded, and a little racist. I hope you realize that 80% of the senators and congressmen are Greek, and 90% of the fortune 500 CEOs were Greek. So essentially you don’t want to get ahead in life or you’re against brotherhood in general?
#55 We didn’t lose the war at all. When the Peace accord was signed in 1973, we had achieved peace with honor, and the ARVN forces managed to hold of a vastly larger army for almost TWO WHOLE YEARS despite how a Democratic congress broke a treaty obligation to provide support. As an OIF Vet I say FUCK YOU. Those men EARNED their honor and fucksticks like you shame the nation.
I was going to show you, AC,but if I do, it just shows italics or bold. put an i between and then at the end, put an /i between . Same with bold, use a b instead.
“As an OIF Vet I say FUCK YOU. Those men EARNED their honor and fucksticks like you shame the nation”. Well said, Doc. Too bad, that anonymous has no idea of what the concept of honor is. Or shame,
Shit, AC, it did it, you have to use a , with the i or b between them, same to end it, with a /i, or /b between them.
Here, AirCav, I kept fucking it up, follow the link. http://webdesign.about.com/cs/beginninghtml/a/aabg112198.htm
Thank you—which I would have written in bold or italics if I actually understood. That’s okay, I’ll work on it.
Now you’re talking!
This one is a little easier to understand, http://www.wattpad.com/546419-guide-to-using-bold-italics-underlined-etc-text
testing/b> testing 1, 2
italic: [i]text you want italicized[/i]
bold: [b]text you want emboldened[/b]
replace [ and ] with less than and greater than signs. ( )
holy shit it worked (kinda) I feel like a dumbass now
Maybe the collective brain power here can explain something which is highly puzzling to me.
We keep hearing about bullying and how wrong it is. They have seminars, teach classes, and insist that schools MUST engage in anti-bullying on every level.
Isn’t someone standing/sitting on a sidewalk insisting that no one can pass a bully? Would a group of folks all insisting that no one can pass be a bunch of bullies?
Isn’t bullying just about a capitol crime in the leftist playbook? Or is this some sort of righteous bullying?? You know, just because they, like, say it is.
@80: while that’s a good point it would only count as “bullying” if it were a few (1 or two or say the police) “picking on” or “deliberately targeting” individuals or groups that APPEAR weaker. In truth it takes time and discipline to earn strength (despite what Liberals might tell you about Jocks) Bullies are usually people who do not respect people that lack the will or the discipline to strengthen themselves.
sadly if we’re speaking on a School level the bullied don’t do much to help things either. They use their awkwardness as a crutch (sometimes as a shield) and attempt to (rather pathetically) prove their better than the bullies by [insert standard here].
I will say this: Liberals fail to realize that strength is not something that can ever be given It is something that must be earned through hard work and diligence. The intellectuals that get bullied often tend to go on to great things because they had the strength to persevere. The music geeks, if they are truly gifted will go on to wow the world, or at least find satisfaction in their gifts. Liberals will never understand that adversity is what makes us triumphant, and the more there is, the sweeter the triumph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVAuBeEYN0&feature=related
Longer video, you can hear the Police warning the tards that they were going to spray them.
http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/4693062-UC-Davis-polic…
In this video you can see the Police attempt to move the tards and they resist.
And this was posted in the comments section of my local paper by a reader. It describes the force continuum much better than I can.
These morons thinking that the police will be fired etc. are sure going to be shocked when this pointless investigation comes to an end and they receive no punishment at all.
O.C. Spray is on the use of force continuum. It comes between soft empty hands and hard empty hands.
The officers attempted to move the protestors by pulling on them, and the protestors locked arms and pulled back and resisted.
O.C. spray is the next step before hard empty hands (grappling / pressure point techniques). O.C. spray is a method used to gain compliance.
They were warned repeatedly that O.C. spray would be used if they didn’t move.
After the spray the officers were able to pick them up and move them.
The effects of the spray generally last about an hour and causes no permanent damage.
All of this is within Standard Operating Procedure for most departments.
If you have a problem with the SOP, then work to change that, but these officers did what they and most officers in the country are trained to do.
Sorry, second video can be found here.
http://www.policeone.com/chiefs-sheriffs/articles/4693062-UC-Davis-police-chief-now-on-leave/
@#69> Doc,
If she’s that upset about Greeks, I’m hesitant to hear what she has to say about us Freemasons….. :0)
Or Greek Freemasons :-O
Even the ACLU(and yes it pains me to say anything nice about them) states that you can protest on sidewalks as long as the normal flow of traffic is not disrupted and that entrances to buildings arent blocked. Once these students were asked to disperse they should have left. When the police attempted to remove them and they resisted the next step up was taken and they were OCed. No matter what actions were taken this group would have blasted the police for doing their jobs. Would they rather have been beaten with riot sticks? I personally think I would rather be OCed than to be hit with a riot stick.
@81
“… adversity is what makes us triumphant …”
Doc, that has to be the quote of the day, simply because it’s true.
That which one has sweated and bled for will be esteemed more highly than that which was given unearned.
I’m A KA, and proud of it. I know what it means to be a Gentleman, and how to treat a Lady. I suck at beer pong, but I actually like losing (more beer for me). One of these days I ought to do a post on what it means to be a gentleman.
You know I think I know why the trolls (King, OG, and Richter specifically) hate me so much
1). I’m a Greek,
2). A Combat Vet (and actually proud of it),
3). An Eagle Scout,
4). White,
5). Male,
6). Intelligent, and actually know my history.
7). Have a job
I’m sure being a smart ass doesn’t help matters. I think the only way they could hate me more is if I was a Christian. Oh wait. . .
@68 AirCAV
Just hit the keyboard harder for bold and tip the monitor to the right for italics.
I agree that pepper spray is not the grand evil people make it out to be. Obviously you can be trained against it, as all of us were.
That said, I think that people who already want to get arrested can be cleared off at a lower level of escalation of force.
However, I’m hearing that the cop who did it was a Marine veteran, and I wonder what his previous training/ROE was for crowd control. It might have been very different than general police standards.
@89. Rats. Good thing I had a backup pc. I confused the instructions. I hit the monitor (it broke) and tilted the keyboard (the letters fell off the keys). But thanks anyway.
@90. Please didn’t work. The laying on of hands didn’t work. What lower level of force did you have in mind?
Hippie! Hippie! Hippie!
Just trying out what I learned in UpNorth’s tutorial, we’ll see if it works.
It worked! Thanks UpNorth!
Speaking of the cop and former marine who so nonchantly sprayed people in the face, he’s famous in the art world now!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/uc-davis-pepper-spray-cop-occupies-art-history/2011/11/22/gIQAO1Y3kN_gallery.html#photo=1
Congrats, Joey. Looks like you finally accomplished something. Take a look at my questios to you in the Memorial Cross thread.
Medical care for pepper spray? Ha! We just sprayed Dawn dish detergent on their faces and hosed ’em down. Pussies!
And look at that pink trail. Did someone let loose pink poop in their pants as a result of the pepper spray?
Yeah, I saw that too BeatandRelease. I am guessing that before the kiddies got sprayed, one of the officers gave ’em a warning shot by spraying a line of the stuff right down the middle of the sidewalk.
If they really want jobs, they should dye their hair green and apply for a position as a LUMPA-UMPA at Willie Wonka’s chocolate factory…just sayin’