Stupid shutdown news link fest
Too many links and so little time;
What would a US default look like? (from Ex-PH2)
The Disabled Veterans of America want you to write your Congress creatures. (from Ex-Ph2)
The Daily Caller says that contract Catholics priests have been threatened with arrest if they minister voluntarily on military bases (from Preston)
It looks like they shut down the USMC Memorial, too.
Congress voted to pay government workers after the shutdown ends. So can I PLEASE go back to work?
Did Obama really close the ocean?
Who gave the Obama-bots a gun?
Added; Obama closes the Vietnam Memorial. It’s a wall and a sidewalk, for crying out loud.
Category: Link fest
Link 1 complete: US default looks pretty spooky.
It rather seems like if these clowns intended to spark a revolution they could not have done a better job of it. Who knows if that was their plan all along, but there isn’t much (any?) evidence to the contrary. Divide and conquer is a tried an true tactic. We got the divided part, but Americans, even most of the lefties, aren’t all in on the conquer part.
From the “What would a U.S. default look like” piece above: “The Obama administration says it doesn’t have the ability to prioritize payments…” That, at the very least, is the gospel truth.
I find it interesting that they are planning to persecute Christians who will volunteer to hold services tomorrow. I wonder if they know about this little thing called the First Amendment that kind of makes threatening arrest for holding services a CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION. But, what is a slew of lawsuits from the Catholic Church next to making things as bad as possible for Americans.
On a side note, my best friend is now in -40 degree weather in an Air Force Base in North Dakota and the closest shopping center is too far to walk and they don’t have enough money to drive (her husband is an E-3). Good thing the government is keeping one golf course open for the President so we won’t have any military families suffering while their loved ones are deployed…
Speaking of revolutions and revolts, this is a point in time when such things actually do take place, however large or small they may be.
If theses marones in Congress (both groups) haven’t defined the real issues by 10/8, they’ll miss an opportunity to get the job done. It is possible, however slim that chance might seem, that they’ll get within a pig’s whisker of the deadline (some time between 10/15 and 10/17) and get the problem solved.
I see a lot of inner rifts on both sides of this squabble, which have time to widen and dump the egotists by the wayside.
This could get interesting
This is from a 10/4/13 Forbes magazine on the possibility of US debt default: ‘A bond trader’s job is to analyze credit, and the markets are speaking loudly that right now there is ZERO worry of a U.S. government debt default.’
Here’s a link to the article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2013/10/04/the-u-s-debt-ceiling-fallacy-agreement-or-not-there-will-be-no-default/
Now, taking that into account, consider these things also:
– There is NO benefit to the current administration to let the US default on its debts
– China has refused to devalues its currency, period.
– On Oct. 1 (Tuesday), someone put in an order to sell 8000 contracts in gold on the COMEX, a sell order equivalent to 800,000 ounces of gold or $100 million, with little to no liquidation in the gold market at that time. This dropped the price of gold to a low of $1276/ounce. This was a specifc effort to drive down the price of gold. AS long as the US dollar is low, meaning the exchange rate of the US Dollar to foreign currencies, the price of gold stays high. This appears to be a behind-the-scenes effort to create a negative effect on the US dollar.
Who would benefit from that? Not India – Indian families hold their wealth in gold, ditto the Saudis. Even Russia would not benefit from a dropped price in gold, especially since Russia buys US grain on the COMEX. And in view of this government’s aggressive pursuit of banks and others, why is it not looking into activities like this?
How does this affect you? Inflation. The dollar will buy less.
This is why a real default by the US will be a complete disaster, and not just a local one.
You probably won’t get any reply but send this to your House and Senate legislators. The right to impeach public officials is secured by the U.S. Constitution in Article I, Sections 2 and 3. This Impeachment Provision is not unique to the Office of the President of the United States. It extends to Justices of the Supreme Court and Cabinet Officers, but isn’t inclusive to legislators (Senators and Representatives). In this way the U.S. Constitution establishes a significant execution of power distinction between legislators (Senators and Representatives) and officials (Officers of National Government). Senators and Representatives however are subject to expulsion. The U.S. Constitution in Article II, Section 4, which indicates the grounds for impeachment that require Extraordinary reasons to consider impeachment. These provisions also state judgments in cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office and disqualification to hold any Office of Honor, Trust or Profit under the United States. But once Impeached the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trail, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law. The extraordinary reasons to consider impeachment are ambiguously and imprecisely given as, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. The reasoning for the high crimes and misdemeanor ambiguousness is although abuse of power and serious misconduct in office are considered within the realm of abuse of power and serious misconduct there is a need to prevent threat of Impeachment being too easily available to the other branches of government to limit or restrict legitimate partisan discord. Impeachment was certainly a check and balance felt necessary to discourage attempts to establish an Imperial Presidency. Pertinent to this discussion is the nature of Misdemeanor which includes conspiracy (an agreement between two or more persons) in an unlawful act or an act innocent in itself that becomes unlawful when done by the persons’ combined efforts. Misfeasance is the doing of a lawful act in an unlawful or improper manner and this certainly is a misdemeanor crime capable of two or more persons in conspiracy to establish an Imperial Presidency. The nature of the current government shutdown… Read more »
Here’s a link to the ARchdiocese’s op-ed piece on the bar to Catholic mass, even if the priests volunteer: http://www.milarch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dwJXKgOUJiIaG&b=8486699&ct=13344123
I won’t say this is a solution, but this is at least an attempt to do something by the House of Reps: http://www.milarch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=dwJXKgOUJiIaG&b=8486699&ct=13345221
That said, this clearly violates the 1st Amendment rights of the military members who are Catholic, although in actuality, they can hold their own impromptu service, if necessary, but won’t have access to sacerdotal items like the wine and wafers.
I’m not a Catholic, I’m Episcopal, but this really pisses me off no end. And on top of it, it’s illegal to do this.
In my 5 decades on the planet, I have never seen a President that wanted to punish the American people for political points like this asshole has done, twice now. When sequestration happened, he told his goons to make it “as painful as possible”, by intentionally targeting certain segments, so that he could punish people, especially Veterans and the military, and still rub their noses in it by spending many millions of dollars on his vacations while no one could tour the White House. Now, he’s doing it, again, and has told his minions to, once again, “make it as painful as possible” with more targeted shutdowns, that, interestingly, abuses Veterans and the military once, again.
He’s the most arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic piece of shit that has ever held the office. He’s throwing a temper tantrum, because the spoiled little bitch isn’t getting his way.
We were just discussing the fact that with all their assorted faults, even the worst presidents we have seen, like Carter, we would never have accused of purposefully doing things to weaken this country. I hated many things about LBJ, for instance, but I never doubted his patriotism.
This clown has absolutely no concern, even for the wrong reasons, for the citizens of this country. He has no respect for our Constitution or any of our institutions. But then, why should he? Did he attend any schools which taught US History? Was he taught anything about our culture, his American heritage, or what the words of our National Anthem mean?
I just sent a very long e-mail to the Tribune Company’s local station WGN, with the op-ed piece from 10/3/13 and the link to the Military Archdiocese, as well as the story about the House resolution to allow Catholics to have a priest give Mass on Sundays.
Note that the resolution in the House had a 100% vote. I want to see what happens in the Senate. If it gets blocked in the Senate, then you know whose ass Harry Reid is really kissing.
What’s next? Shut down the synagogues?
The hole gets bigger and bigger, doesn’t it? One can only hope.
To that end, am I questioning the patriotism of Barack Obama and Harry Reid specifically, and the liberal left in general?
You fuckin-A I am!
OH, Sparky, some people who went Dem in politics aren’t nearly as far left as you think.
They just don’t get the notice that a pimp like Reid gets.
Here’s a link to an article about this by Todd Starnes for Fox News:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/04/catholic-priests-in-military-face-arrest-for-celebrating-mass/
Like I said, if it’s Catholics now, are Jews next? Protestants and Lutherans?
This is not over. Not yet.
I should yank my sister’s chain about this, shouldn’t I?
#10: Old Trooper: I’m pissed off at you! You said what I’ve been thinking but didn’t have the balls or eloquence to do! Plus, I didn’t want my driveway clogged with Suburbans. BTW: local rumor (from assholes that straight line Dim vote) says a woman was fined $200+ today for watching the ocean from the Outer Banks by the NPS during Barrycade.
I particularly (to take nothing away from the other points) like: “He’s the most arrogant, egotistical, narcissistic piece of shit that has ever held the office. He’s throwing a temper tantrum, because the spoiled little bitch isn’t getting his way.”
I hope Moochelle kicks him in the balls (if she can find them)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/645/3869/original.jpg
I wonder if the NPS will remove the cones so that the snow plows can get the roads opened. So the NPS can put up the cones again to keep folks from stopping to look at, or take a picture of Mt. Rushmore? http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131004/UPDATES/310040047/S-D-officials-object-feds-barring-visitors-from-highway-viewing-areas-near-Mount-Rushmore
I wonder why the governor didn’t just send out a plow to get rid of the cones before the snow?
“They won’t even let you pull off on the side of the road,” Hagen said. “I just don’t know what they’re trying to accomplish.”
I think I can clarify this for Mr. Hagen. In an effot to piss off as many voters as possible, the federal government, with bodaprez at the helm, has decided that we, the peasants, are easy to scare into submission.
Mr. Hagen could just send out a big garbage truck to pick up all the litter those cones are creating and somehow make them just disappear.
The map below clearly shows that the viewing of Mt. Rushmore from from a South Dakota STATE highway, NOT a US highway.
http://www.mountrushmoreinfo.com/images/mountrushmore-map600.gif
I think some garbage trucks should just go pick up the trash ASAP.
@17: Sorry I blew up (stole your thunder), SJ. 🙂
Now the man-child is removing residents from their homes out by Hoover Dam, because they supposedly sit on gummint land. First off; I wouldn’t build a house on government land and I don’t know if you can, anyway. Maybe the land around their houses is government land and they can’t get to their homes because of that. I don’t know the details; I just saw a short blurb on it. All I know is this petulant little pussy needs to learn who he works for.
OldTrooper, where did you see that?
Here’s a list of 7 stupid things bodaprez put in place for the shutdown from Daily Caller. http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/02/seven-stupid-things-the-govt-spent-money-on-during-the-shutdown/
Note: the angry moms at Marion (Turtle) Park just remove the barricades even when they are put back, and people are using the Canal bike trail despite the so-called closure.
I can’t find anything on people being forced out of their homes near Hoover Dam so far.
I couldn’t find anything on what Old Trooper reported, but I did find a notice on the Hoover Dam website that it is open because it is not run with appropriated funds.
http://www.usbr.gov/lc/hooverdam/
I think there’s a great golf course there, too. Maybe bodaprez could shoot some links there… if anyone will let him. They may not like it if he shows up.
After diligent searching, I found the link to the news story that Old Trooper was referring to.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mead-Property-Owners-Forced-Out-Until-Gov-Shutdown-Ends-226557661.html
The homes are at Lake Meade, not near Hoover Dam, and they are privately-owned cabins, but the land they sit on is federal property, so they aren’t allowed to stay there during this shutdown. The elderly couple in the story have owned their cabin outright since the 1970s.
OldTrooper: 2+ decades ago, I was looking to buy a home in the Western US. Spouse and I had heard of a program whereby an individual (1) could lease Federal land for a long-term (my recollection is several decades – I think either 99 or 100 years), and (2) build on it. The land would be “yours” until the lease expired. At that point it would revert to the government.
Our real estate broker confirmed that the program did at one time exist, but told us it had been closed to new entrants some time before – in the 1950s or 60s, I think, but maybe the 1970s. As leases expired, the land was reverting to full Federal control.
It’s my understanding quite a number of folks used that program to build vacation homes/cabins. My guess is that these cabins/homes in the Lake Meade NRA fall into that category. The buildings are privately owned, but the land itself is under a long-term lease.
If the land was leased back in the 1950s, there could still be around 40 years left on the land lease. But since the government still technically owns the land (and the surrounding land), the terms of the lease may give them authority to tell you to “pack up and move out” during a closure or other “emergency”.
Just a guess on my part, but it fits the known facts of the situation.
I read there’s a protest planned on Friday. Thr group on facebook is Million Vets March on the Memorials.
This is from Twitchy, something that someone sent in with pictures. People are simply throwing the cones out of their way or driving over them, as is only proper.
http://redirect.disqus.com/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2F2013%2F10%2F06%2Ffamilies-throw-off-the-cones-at-badlands-national-park-in-south-dakota%2F%3ASs31JRbdfZ2HzHeVh4Dryd93r9U&imp=v8lgb7663c6a&forum_id=1244018&forum=twitchy&thread_id=1829767982&major_version=metadata&thread=1828967539&zone=internal_discovery
Also, GOV Scott Walker of Wisconsin is keeping Wisconsin parks open and allowing hunting on federal property, despite the shutdown. I think he’s annoyed.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/05/wisconsin-gov-walker-defies-order-to-close-federally-funded-parks/
i kinda like this government shut down thing, we have too much government as is, so lets force some of it out. i find it rather funny that since the average american is unaffected by the shut down, our fearless leader has decided to ensure that things that require no federal funds are shut down too just to make people feel the pinch. the WW2 memorial, federal hunting lands maintained by states, federal parks maintained by states, volunteer religious services, and academy football games are just a few examples of the administration showing its ass to make this seem worse than it is. when this administration’s policies put millions out of work, blocked the Keystone pipeline stopping thousands of jobs, and attacks the coal industry with the sole intent of putting 10s of thousands out of work, its ok, but if some federal gubmint workers are furloughed for a week, all hell has broken loose and its a national emergency!
Ex-PH2,
Following their logic, are thry going to put military members out of post housing?
How about turning the Obama voters out of federally-subsidized housing?
If fwe want to play this game, we should play for keeps.
Here’s the link for the Million Vet March:
http://1mvetmarch.wordpress.com/
It’s on October 13 at 9AM
V.I., I haven’t seen anything about that so far, but I think it’s only fair to cut the cash to people in subsidized housing. Don’t you?
Subsidized housing is usually privately owned but the rent is supplemented by federal funding. Some of that, like Cabrini Green in Chicago and the other projects housing, was started in the 1960s with good intentions but quickly deteriorated into nothing better than ghetto living.
This just tickles me pink: the ACA/obamacare website is down for repairs. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57606175/obamacare-website-goes-down-for-repairs
Meantime, fraudsters are lining up to get your info.
And in addition, the security on the obamacare website is poor that it is a ‘hacker’s wet dream’ per this: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/john-mcafee-on-obamacare-this-is-a-hackers-wet-dream-video/
I’m SO glad I’m not having to face that mess.
well, if we are going to close state run programs that are on land leased from the federal government, why shouldnt we shut down housing programs that are federally funded on private land. if we are going to claim that a government shut down also shuts down the ocean off the florida keys, i think it should shut down the hand out programs too
Smitty, all of this is supposed to be temporary while the spoiled brat, who has never been told ‘NO’, is holding his breath until his turns blue. The federal funding for subsidized housing is a monthly check paid to the recipient, not the landlord. And if this funding fiasco isn’t resolved, it will probably be on hold, too. Also, if you want me and millions of other baby boomers who are now retired and getting social security retirement income to get off that program, fine, but this is what it will take, so pay attention. I’ve paid into that program since 1963. I’ve paid into Medicare since 1965. I’ve kept those statements the Social Security Administration sends out every year since I started getting them, so I know how much I’ve paid in. If you or the Federal government wants to buy me out, it will require not just what I’ve paid in, but also the accumulated compound interested on payments made and interest accrued over 48 years of work and paychecks. That compound interest accrual runs to several million dollars over a projected period of 30 years, based on the life expectancy in my family. Since both of my grandmothers, and the three sisters of one of them, were well into their 90s when they died, and my mother was 94 when she passed on, I expect to live past the age of 95, based on my better health and improved health care. I would also require that my Medicare tax be returned to me with compound interest accrued since 1965 on payments made and accrued interest. If this is just for me, it comes to several million dollars. If it encompasses my entire generation of baby boomers, whom you seem to resent so deeply, the cost will be well in excess of the current debt ceiling of $16.7 trillion. That’s what it’s going to cost you if you want it done away with. What you don’t understand is that my Social Security tax went to pay for my parents’ and grandparents’ retirement and your parents’ and grandparents’ retirement.… Read more »
And rightfully so, ex-PH2. I’m angry about all the foreigners, especially illegals, that come here and leech off that program, as well as its funds being raped by Congress for its pork & perks!
As for Øbamites having firearms, isn’t it illegal for a felon to possess one? Just sayin’…
i dont resent baby boomers at all, nor do i have any hard feelings towards anyone that has been paying into SS, i hate the fact that the program was put in place in the first place. SS was set up because the government feels it knows better then you how to plan for your golden years. you are too stupid to take care of yourself, so let the the government do it for you. i am sickened by the idea that our populace thinks this is a good program or that it should be sustained. SS is bankrupt now, and unsustainable. what you have paid in has long since been spent and the only way that you will be able to draw SS is by the government raiding what i pay in now. SS is nothing but a giant, government run pyramid scam, but because people have paid into it for so long, there is the (rightful) feeling of entitlement that they should receive their payments until the day they die. when SS was put in place, no one was expecting people to live to be 100 years old, SS was supposed to take care of you for the last 5-10 years of life. now, with people living longer and paying into the ponzi scheme for 40+ years, they want theirs and they say it is owed to them. somewhere, in order to end this disaster of a program, someone has to take the hit and the loss. the longer it keeps going the more people are going to suffer from the loss. in order for those that are hitting 65 now to get their payments until their deaths, those in their 20s and 30s have to keep paying in until the older group die. at that point, my age group is starting to collect SS and we need our children and grand children to keep paying into the scam to support us. somewhere, someone gets screwed, the longer we wait, the more people that is. i say end it now and tell everyone tough titties. im out 12… Read more »
as with any poor investment, money is often lost. that is what happened with SS, so that now it is nothing more then a punishment on the working members of society and a hand out to the seniors. i know you hate the term, but it is a hand out. it isnt your money, that was given away to your parents, you have just graduated from the punished to gifted. there is no buy out, and there will be nothing in the fund when i get time to be one of the gifted. its a ponzi scheme that has to end
Ex-PH2: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but . . . the SCOTUS ruled over 50 years that the money you paid into Social Security is not your money any more. You own nothing and have no contractual right to anything from Social Security. The fact that you paid your FICA taxes doesn’t mean anything except that you paid taxes as required. You bought nothing and have no property interest in same due to paying those taxes.
The case is Flemming v. Nestor (1960).
The Federal government has essentially been lying about Social Security since it began in 1935. Although marketed and sold as “social insurance” or a “retirement program”, that’s been bull since day one. Social Security is not and never has been a retirement savings or insurance program wherein individual contributions or premiums were invested in individual accounts resulting in ownership of a damn thing. Rather, from day one it has been nothing more than a tax-funded income-transfer program that funnels income collected in the form of taxes on working Americans to those who qualify to receive payments – primarily the aged.
Like Elizabeth Warren said, ““The threats may continue, but they are not working. And they will never work. Because this is a democracy. And in a democracy, hostage tactics are the last resort for those who can’t otherwise win their fights through elections, can’t win their fights in Congress, can’t win their fights for the Presidency, and can’t win their fights in Courts. For this right-wing minority, hostage-taking is all they have left – a last gasp of those who cannot cope with the realities of our democracy.”
You’re missing the point, Hondo. Quit being so literal.
I know SocSec has been referred to as the biggest Ponzi scheme in the world, which it is.
However, any senior who has had this ‘fairy tale’ handed to him for 50-some years that it is your retirement savings will tell you otherwise, regardless of any former legal proceedings.
Denying seniors this ‘refund’ of their ‘tax’ won’t just raise a fucking storm on Capitol Hill. A lot of people in all place of government will lose their damned jobs.
We still consider it ‘our’ money and we want it back. So don’t quote cases to me.
I’m in the group that doesn’t give a fuck what went before. Somewhere between 75milliong and 80 million people born during that time period (1946 – 1960) have been fed this line since Day One. We expect to be given what we were told.
You want to bring down the government? Piss off the baby boomers and vets. After that, go after people whose personal retirement savings are being stared at by this administration as a source of income in every way from eliminating tax-exempt Roth IRAs and Roth 401Ks, to forcing those personal savings into federall-owned accounts. (I saw that last one somewhere, don’t remember where, it was awhile back.)
we are all well aware of the line of BS that was fed to people ever since SS was established, but the cold hard truth is that someone somewhere has to take the hit and it needs to be soon. it sucks that it has to end while you are the recipient rather then the payer, but thus is life. its part of our political system that everyone gets blind folded, bent over and here it comes again! then the 2 guys standing behind us point the finger at each other claiming it was the other that just screwed ya with out lube and we all get to vote for which guy we want to screw us next. not that it matters which guy we vote for, because he too will just blame the other guy for screwing ya.
Ex-PH2: I’m among that “baby boomer” group myself, lady. Yes, we’ve been fed a line of BS from day one and had no choice in the matter. I don’t like it either.
And yet, we’ve refused to force Uncle Sam to fix the problem. We had our chance in the early 1980s. We (the US public) refused to force Congress to fix the system then. We let them kick the can down the road. And we’ve done that ever since.
The fact that we’ve been lied to also doesn’t alter the fact that Uncle Sam has been signing IOUs he can’t cover for decades. Demographics guarantee that those IOUs come due pretty damn soon. And every new giveaway program moves that day of reckoning closer.
If nothing is done, one day the money – for Social Security and most everything else – will simply run out. Current projections are that will occur for Social Security within my lifetime, and probably within yours as well.
We can either continue to deny that reality (like we have for my entire lifetime) or finally get off our asses and demand that Congress change things to head off the oncoming collapse. That means either huge tax increases (which will IMO kill the economy) or a rather sharp limit on future benefits.
Neither is a particularly pleasant prospect. But the prospect of a financial collapse and the resulting unrest that follows same is IMO even less appealing.
‘If nothing is done, one day the money – for Social Security and most everything else – will simply run out. Current projections are that will occur for Social Security within my lifetime, and probably within yours as well.’ Yes, I know. Why do think I waited until retirement to start a new career, writing books? It wasn’t just because it used to be hard to get published. It was because I saw this coming, too. It’s easy enough to blame various groups, which I will not start on, and the problem/crisis has indeed been coming to this for a very long time. The fact that someone behind me in line (Smitty, e.g.) gets screwed three wasy to Sunday just compounds it. Self-sufficiency in this country has been repeatedly squelched for about 30++ years. You know that just as well as I do. When even state pensions are threatened because of mismanagement and greedy union demands, what are we supposed to think? I know people who have those and they are now threatened by this state’s fiscal mismanagment. That doesn’t even compare with the asinine mismanagement of finances by the US Government since the Carter administration, or maybe even further back, with Johnson. This wholesale ripping off the taxpayers for the past 50 years is very comparable to the French government under Louis XIV, VX and XVI sucking 98% of the population dry and living high on the hog at their expense. It’s exactly the same thing, and it brought down the French government. What is most disturbing is that the person who should be at that global finance crisis, competing for the world finance position, is sitting on his bony ass in the White House instead of doing his damned job. If you want a complete collapse of the world trade and finance system, make the US dollar worthless. And don’t say China will step in. China is still refusing to devalue its currency. So maybe something good will come out of this mess. I hope so, not just for my sake and yours, but for future generations. We… Read more »
Another “boomer” here who has never had any plans of receiving any “benefit” from SS, and am pleasantly surprised that I get about enough for a meal out each month. Still, I do not like it. AND they refused to simply send what I was owed to the IRS as I requested.
Meanwhile, I seriously resent being forced into Medicare. (Technically, individuals can opt out of it, but as nearly as I can tell, you need to be beyond independently wealthy to be able to.) It’s just another way to tax those who produce to redistribute what we have to others who refuse to produce anything of value while making another group dependent upon government.
Looks as though the shutdown is not keeping anyone out of the parks, after all. Photo included.
http://now.msn.com/government-shutdown-doesnt-stop-families-from-visiting-national-parks-viral-photos-show?gt1=50501
The battle continues. http://news.msn.com/us/how-the-shutdown-impasses-might-play-out
I’d like to see Boehner stop being such a ‘nice’ guy and tell his more conservative GOPers ‘get over it, we can work on that later’.
If this nonsense is all about the ACA, then they get all get off this silly track of stubbornness, both houses of Congress and both parties, and work out a deal on that.
The so-called rollout of the ACA was so poorly setup that the website is shut down for repairs. (Ooooh! Conspiracy?) It’s also a hacker’s wet dream, fraudsters are lining up their own fake ACA sites to steal your info, AND no one is paying any attention to the barriers (traffic cones? sawhorses? seriously?), and people are generally doing whatever they want to, so how is this shutdown working so well?
Hey! bodaprez!! This is AMERICA, the land of the FREE, the home of the BRAVE. We don’t work for you, you work for us, and we can fire your sorry ass real quickly.
Here’s a bit of news from the South African finance minister about the reach of a US default on its debt.
http://news.yahoo.com/south-africa-growth-wont-reach-2-7-pct-101452102–business.html
Boehner needs to stay out of the way and let the government stay “shut down”. truth is, there is no real effect on the american public from this. at least now, bodaprez isnt taking multi million dollar vacations on our dime