Jan Spann resigns from school board
In case you haven’t been following the drama in the Jan Spann post, the Riverside, California Press-Enterprise reports that phony Vietnam veteran and Banning, California school board member, Janis Spann will resign from her position after she was exposed on TAH last week.
Spann wrote in an email to The Press-Enterprise on Monday, July 24, that she doesn’t want the controversy to affect Banning schools.
“I will resign from the school board as this is only going to get nastier, and I do not want to impede the board’s work with unnecessary antics,” she wrote. “I will further resign from numerous committees I serve on for the same reason. I will not let others possibly suffer by having my name attached to their work.”
However, Spann said her resignation was not an admission of guilt.
What would really be “not an admission of guilt” is a DD214 proving her service, but then she couldn’t be a martyr.
Last week, Navy veteran, Diane Box called for Spann’s resignation at a school board meeting;
“I know my decision not to fight is only going to bring me incredible pain, but I will not be bullied,” [Spann] wrote.
Spann’s martyrdom continues in the Banning Record Gazette;
“I will resign from the school board, as this will only get nastier,” she stated in an e-mail, “and I do not want to impede the board’s work with unnecessary antics.”
Further, she said “I will resign from numerous committees I serve on for the same reason. I will not let others possibly suffer by having their name attached to my work.”
Spann feels that she is being “bullied” by members of the public, leading to her decision.
Yeah, she wouldn’t have to fight – all she needs to do is show her DD214 or admit that she’s been lying all of these years.
To review the evidence against Ms. Spann;
She…claims to have been a registered nurse in Vietnam for two tours from 1968-1971. The second screen shot is from an article about her and her book.
Well the problem is that the California State University of Long Beach says she was in college during those years;
And the Army says that they’ve never heard of her;
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
A liar is being bullied?
Yup.
She’s the innocent ‘victim’ in all of this.
Everyone knows that.
She is being mistreated by bullies in the same way that the police are racist.
This filthy lying BITCH…an enlisted RN, yeh right, she is not only a liar, but stupid as the day is long! Went out and found the wounded? what frigging nurse went out and found the wounded? She just stole the glory from a hell of a lot of heroic Corpsmen and Medics! WHAT A PIECE OF LYING SHYT! Sue her for fraud!!
(snorrtt!) Not guilty? Mmmkayyy….
Next thing you know, she’ll find a way to say she was in supply or riding a desk in the Fluff War but it was all secret stuff, because she was on the Secret Squirrel missions to drop bombs on the Bad Guys from her plane.
She must have been talking about all those times she went out and retrieved “the boys” in the battlefields of Atropia. 🙄
“IF” she were a recent veteran, she may have been on the battlefields of
Atropia. I am well acquainted with Atropia, even owning an Atropian Shepherd, (The National Dog of Atropia), so I know that she couldn’t have “retrieved” or “relieved” the boys in those battlefields of Atropia. Oh! The horrors, just thinking about those that were in the Atropian Wars, it makes me quake in appreciation of all they went through.
That or her escapades in the jungles of Paprika, she might have even been at Macho Grande!
She might have been involved in the civil war between Paprika and Smellialand, too.
Anything is possible with people like her. Anything!
As long as it wasn’t over Macho Grande.
I’ll never get over Macho Grande.
Pull up
Go ahead. Fight it, Jan. ‘Cause lying about military service is so difficult to prove. (Not.)
Here’s a suggestion: Quit Lying! No fighting required. No apologies necessary. No nothing needed – just stop lying and trying to make yourself into something you are not.
Never will understand why people opt to waste all that energy lying when life is soooo much easier when you don’t lie about stuff.
If you don’t want to be bullied, you fight back. You show paperwork to disprove what’s being said about you.
You don’t run and hide.
THAT is an admission of guilt.
Possibly. But at least theoretically, it could possibly be a move to prevent further publicity by someone who desires to maintain a reasonably low public profile.
Her and her husband’s foundation’s Form 990s filed between 2007 and 2017 can be found here. At a quick glance, they seem a bit unusual – at least to me (lots of stock activity, low/no compensation for the trustees, and few disbursements other than those related to stock transactions). Can’t say how unusual that is or if anything odd is going on or not, since I’m not an expert in the field.
http://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/SearchResults.aspx
They have filed the appropriate paperwork for the IRS and the State of California.
It looks like they got a big grant to start out with but very few payouts for running the nonprofit work. The only problem I see is that it is a private foundation and I can’t find their website nor what their mission statement is. It’s legal on face value, but what do they do?
It seems more like a trust or tax shelter than an active charity. Janis Spann and her husband own a business called J&J Inventories, which apparently provides car dealers in Southern California with third-party inventory audits. There could be multiple reasons for the foundation which might have to do with the Spann’s retirement, providing inheritance for offspring, or acting as a vehicle for securities investments.
This stuff is outside my lane, and I’d be reluctant to speculate too much on it.
Well, a mommy and a daddy love each other very much. Now, the daddy has a special seed and…….oh, STOCKS……I thought you said sex.
Sorry Hondo.
I’m wondering if anyone will check out her half million dollar charity which no one got a penny except her?
enlisted RN. LOL that’s better than an enlisted pilot.
In WWII, possibly. Not since then.
Yeah, since ww2 enlisted have become too dumb to do anything technical, like fly a plane or be a Nurse.
Given the different levels of public education from the 1940s to present, and the sheer numbers of people needed for the war effort, it makes sense to me.
My beloved depression-era father-in-law never finished 3rd grade, but left quite an inheritance behind – working as a driller. My grandmothers were quite unusual in that both of them had gone to college to be teachers.
A college degree is more common, and public school graduates are less educated. We were more likely to have enlisted personnel who had received a true education in the 1940s.
So, yeah, the enlisted have become too dumb to do anything technical like that.
I hear all the talk about education and how we need to pump more money into it for the latest gadgets, gizmos and computers. And how we must change the curriculum to “touchy-feely” courses being offered along with “2+2=5 as long as Johnny/Jane feel good about it” math. And with all this progressive push into our centers of education,kids are still unable to do simple math or read with any comprehension. Didn’t many of the folks who built the Hoover Dam, laid out the interstate system, put a man on the moon attend one room school houses, had to do long math on paper with a pencil and read and discussed the classics?
When all else fails, go back to the basics. Schools should be a place to learn the fundamentals, not an experiment on the latest fad or a place a student can “find” themselves. One’s whole life is about finding yourself, schools are a place to learn, first and foremost. I don’t need to sit in a circle on the floor inside a classroom chewing on some blubber to relate to the Eskimo experience! Give me a book and let me read about it.
1+1 is 2 + 2 is 4 + 4 is 8.
A little arithmetic game my preschool teacher in Texas taught us when I was 4. simple, easy to understand, and a good brain exercise.
Well, maybe. In Common Core math, it would be different:
1 + 1 is usually 2, but sometimes can be 3, if you can prove how you got there. 3 + 2 doesn’t always equal 5; show your work and explain how you got 6 and you’ll get credit. 6 + 4 can never equal 10, of course, because then you’re into a whole new set of numbers in the next column, and if you can show how you got there, you can be a college professor.
That, too, is a good brain exercise … in slowly going mad.
Stalin would be so proud.
These uneducated children can’t balance a checkbook, don’t know how to track the money they spend, and use their brains for doorstops.
Then they get to college entrance exams and have to take remedial math and remedial English because they are uneducated.
When I enlisted in ’63 my GT score was high enough that I had to take the OCT. One of the guys there was complaining that taking the OCT was a waste of time since he had only a 9th grade education and couldn’t go to OCS even if he wanted to. Army being what it is he had to take the test.
Years later in Viet Nam I had a SP5 that I wanted to promote and I got a lot of resistance because, again he had only a 9th grade education and the Army at that point wanted NCOs to have at least a high school education. The guy was the best damn mechanic I had ever seen and I really wanted him promoted. It took some doing, but he finally got the promotion and we served together again in the 25th ID on my finally VN tour.
Too many folks fixate on a piece of paper and neglect to take real-world experience into account.
Now those pieces of paper are becoming worthless unless you are in a specifically useful field like physics (NASA, electrical engineering, etc.), accounting, biology (vet medicine) – stuff like that.
Just having ‘a degree’ is not sufficient any more.
Not my point, which was there haven’t been any enlisted pilots in any significant numbers since then, and certainly not in Vietnam onwards.
I was replying to MSG Eric’s comment, not yours SEA. Sorry for the confusion.
I don’t think there have been any enlisted RN nurses in the Army Nurse Corps since WWII, even if there were then.
Agree.
Can anybody give me the name of her “charity” so I can check?
See my comment above. Gives a link to the Form 990s filed between 2007 and 2015. Those contain both EIN and the foundation’s formal name and contact info.
Here is her charity web page. Telephone number and address in on the page
http://nonprofits.findthecompany.com/l/1375349/John-And-Janis-Spann-Foundation
Note: there is a paragraph in there that reads zero of all donations went to anyone. All was used for admin fees.
Translating Spann’s self-serving statement. Yes, I lied about my service, but, see, if I had been in the service, I would have been so noble. See how I’m making this all about the school board, and all that work that others did on various committees, and not about my lying. Aren’t I just grand?
Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, Hey Hey Hey,
GOODBYE!
Diane Box is owed a beer or two from the TAH community and a big pat on the back.
Well said, Sgt Fon.
I hadn’t seen that video before; Navy veteran Diane Box rolled in hot and shacked the target in a public venue in spectacular fashion.
KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
BDA = 100/100.
Well done, Ms. Box!!!
Nice!! Box…..
/*snerk*
BZ, Diane Box! 😀
No, sweetheart, you’re quitting not because of anyone else or their efforts.
You’re quitting because you know you’ve been caught red-handed. And as everyone here knows, Stolen Valor is usually just the rancid cherry on the top of the shit sundae.
What else are you hiding and hope nobody else finds out, I wonder? Inquiring minds want to know.
Well, even though Jan Spann is still a self-absorbed lying failure who is apparently incapable of a grammatically correct paper, at least the children of that school district have a better chance of having some competent folks overseeing their education now.
buh-bye
What? Not, “C’mon over here, you bad gurl?” (smile)
I’m shocked too Hondo. 😉
She wants to avoid “unnecessary antics” so suggest she straightaway be taken dry and from behind…consult Ned Beatty if you need further guidance
Well, now we know that even IDC_SARC has his limits… and that has been reached.
I don’t know Ex, he didn’t come out and say he WOULDN’T hit it……
Yes, he did. See the second comment (10:10 am) on the original Jan Spann thread.
Think you might have taken the wrong compass heading there, amigo – as in “180 out”.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=73408&cpage=1#comment-3014049
(smile)
He did indeed. I’m not sure I’d want to hit it for being a bad gurl, but might be willing to take the ‘Vette in the photo if it was offered cheap. Nickname that car “Dustoff” or something…
Until proven otherwise, I stand firm!
Don’t go away mad, just go away.
You been told
If she’s used her fraud to get all these “committee” appointments, I’m guessing she’s to the level of the legal definition of fraud and needs to be charged.
It didn’t take much to out her with stolen valor, so she’s definitely being fraudulent in other ways as well.
“Spann feels that she is being “bullied” by members of the public, leading to her decision.”
TRANSLATION: “I was caught red handed for being a lying poseur, and the best way out of this is to make myself the victim”
I did not receive the following e-mail from Jan:
“But I am the victim here.
I mean I wrote a book about the Civil War and it was nominated (by myself) for a Pull-it prize. And that rejection letter hurt. I have the PS of TD because of it. How mean could those people be.
Also while writing the book I averaged a paper cut a week. I do not know how I survived that. A lessor person would have quit; or at least got smart and stopped getting paper cuts.
If these things do not qualify me to be an enlisted nurse in the Viet of the Nam with multiple Purple Hearts, then what does; having to actually be there? I have to disagree; my imaginary service is almost, just like, in a way is like the real thing…isn’t it?
Then how about my Charity? It is doing good things to help me. Not everyone can start up a charity to support themselves; I have put much effort into it.”
Victimology 101: “…it’s all about the BULLYING !!!”
Well ……….. bye.
Tombstone…Good movie. Kilmer does a great job as Doc Holiday.
Hey Jan….
G.
T.
F.
O.
Sorry, that’s NOT SAFE FOR WORK Adult language.
Clown.
“I know my decision not to fight is only going to bring me incredible pain, but I will not be bullied,” [Spann] wrote.
Pretty standard politician snake response. Start with the “I’m doing the noble thing to spare my community and colleagues any embarrassment and pain”, move into, “I’m being forced to do this by being discovered in a lie”, to “it’s THEIR FAULT, so I’m going to start bitching pretty soon to save my skin”.
It’s right up there with “I’m resigning to spend more time with my family”.
Who wants to spend MORE time with their family? Most guys I know only work to get AWAY from the family for a few hours a day.
Or the same way “hospitalized for exhaustion” is Hollywood-speak for “drug and alcohol rehab.” 😉
Another one bites the dust! She sure is going full turbo trying to play the Victim Card but IF ONLY she didn’t lie like hell about her past…
Well, you have to give her credit for resigning. Better than Mike Sleeper….Golly Gee, what IS taking so long for him to provide proof (sarc)
I’m sure that at some point we’re going to hear Spann’s half hearted supporters say “leave her alone, she’s suffered enough!”
You know the type:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqSTXuJeTks
But being busted for stolen valor should HURT. It should be humiliating, embarrassing and uncomfortable.
After all, these posers are more than happy to accept the undeserved accolades and to bask in the admiration that come along with being a real “hero.”
So when the worm turns, when their lies are exposed and when they are subjected to well-deserved ridicule and disgust, they should roll in that shit, too.
They earned it, after all.
Just another crooked liberal Kalifornia fuckweasel getting a small amount of what she so richly deserves.
As our many LE readers here can verify:
It’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault and even the family members will believe that crap.
Hey Jan!!!!!
NSFW
But Amusing “40 different ways to flip someone off”
I wonder if she’ll claim to have PT of the SD from being exposed as a flaming liar?
Lordy, they done Swift-Boated Ms Jan. Can we get Senators “The Dick” Blumenthal and “The Lurch” Kerry in for some post traumatic swift boat (PTSB) grief counseling? regards, Alemaster
Way to go, Jonn! Another one bites the dust.
CUNT.
Not a word I use lightly or often either, but if the panties fit.
Aw, Goddamnit!! I missed an opportunity open up the COW!!! This person is clearly a disgrace and the word “guilty” is not in her vocabulary. Neither is punctuation without help– from looking at that Facebook post…and she “wrote” a book? hahahahahahahahaha. Karma.
Well AMF, lil’ cow poke!
“I am very sad that I did give (the reporter) misinformation when he asked for personal information for his questions,” she wrote. “I will have to live with that fact, and know it cost me his friendship.”
Can anyone explain how giving misinformation to a reporter is different than lying to a reporter.
Just because you’ve been called out for lying doesn’t mean you’ve been bullied.
At least she’s proven she has more balls than Mike Sleeper and Eric Nelson.
You guys think I am BS’ing you.
She will make a great Spokeswoman for All-Points Logistics.
Well, Elaine Ricci still has not made an appearance in the boardroom of the proud woman owned business that I work for in the last few years, so maybe Jan Spann who did not serve in Vietnam Of The Name can join our organization and help us support the warfighter.
I wonder if those two critters Miromoto Epstein and Clyde Diddit had any impact on her, what with them posting on her farcebook page…
So, Jan Spann doubles down, and the lies continue.
http://www.recordgazette.net/news/spann-resigns-over-fraudulent-military-service-allegations/article_aa916078-72f8-11e7-b7e3-db1f34103d0e.html
Yup.
She’s gone full potato.
And so it goes…
Lying TWUNT
Soooo,
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still a liar.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still unable to write grammatically correct sentences.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still unable to identify an Oxford Comma in the wild, purportedly.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still claiming she is being bullied by the Truth.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still not accepting responsibility for her own choices.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still not trustworthy.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still the author of a truly horribly written book.
Jan Spann who claims she was Jan Lowry is still unfit to be a school board members.
Graybeard…you READ her book? 😉
Well, AP, I read Ex-PH2’s review of the Amazon preview pages, and since I trust Ex-PH2’s sense of language, literature, and grammar, I knew it was a bad book that I didn’t need to read.
Graybeard, you could add “Jan Spann aka Jan Lowry is a compulsive liar until proven otherwise”, if it seems appropriate.
This disgusting individual thinks that she can get away with claiming service that she did not have, when OTHER WOMEN IN VIETNAM WERE KILLED OR WOUNDED, and get away with it.
No, she cannot. She is a liar, a looter and a pillager, and does not deserve anything but pure contempt.
I agree. I just had to get back to work before I ran out of appropriate things to say about Jan Spann aka Jan Lowry.
Slave to a paycheck.
jebbus, she still doesn’t understand the difference between an enlistment and an appointment..she’s too stupid to even fabricate a proper lie.
QED.
She’ll take the lie to her grave, you can bet on it.
BTW, the reporter of that article and Jann are still FB Friends with each other (and she said her misinformation to him had cost her his friendship) although Jann has now blocked her FB Friends from public viewing.
But the first thing I looked at 10 days ago was the number of FB Friends she had. As of day before yesterday when she blocked her Friends section, the count had only dropped by one. To me that says she still has 211 supporters of her lies by remaining FB Friends with her.
So much for integrity. A small number of her friends are purported VN Vets, and a few others are public service noteworthy individuals.
Personally, I wouldn’t be too hard on the kid doing the reporting, Claw. As of a couple of days ago, I would have called it as the Record Gazette blowing off any follow-up to the original story based on some of the apparent town dynamics. The paper could have also run with just the fact she announced the resignation. Instead, today’s story wasn’t ambush, but it wasn’t softball either.
Okay, I’ll cut him some slack.
Who knows, maybe he’s the one who is still posting the TAH link to her FB page under that newest sign in name of Cindy Woo.
Wouldn’t that be a hoot?
6th Army? Well, that explains her story. 6th Army’s headquarters were located in Presidio, CA during the 1960s. California. Their mission was to train troops in the US. They were NOT in Vietnam.
220th Medical Group in Vietnam…or 220th Group period? Found a list of all Medical Units in Vietnam…surprise! NO 220th…
I bet in the 1960s, she went to Presidio as a guest of someone stationed there or with an ROTC unit or a National Guard unit…and perhaps heard stories of 6th Army’s involvement in WWII…and now wants to known as a Vietnam Vet.
Since she writes books on the Civil War, am waiting for her to say “Well, there I was…listening to Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg, praising us Union Soldier Nurses..”😉
6th Army? Nope, don’t remember seeing any patch like that in RVN.
220th? Nope, that neither. Maybe she has that number seared into her brain from the last time she hopped onto the bathroom scale./smile
Claw! Well, WAS going to write: ” Claw, be ashamed…you are talking about a woman’s weight!”…and then thought, “Nope, Claw’s right..that vision was probably on her mind…” gee,aren’t we bad…😲
That’s why I added the /smile.
The /smile is the Get Out Of Jail Free Card for everything that may be semi-offensive./Smile
And what you wrote about those scales is probably right…my turn for the /smile..😉and as I said “aren’t we (you and I) bad…” we both will probably get in trouble with SJW for agreeing about the pounds..😎
AP, the presidio you’re talking about is actually the Presidio of San Francisco. It was established by the Spanish government in 1776, and was serving as the U.S. 6th Army headquarters until 1994. It was also the site of Letterman Army Hospital. “Presidio” is the Spanish word for “fort,” and there were/are others in California including San Diego, Santa Barbara, and Monterey. A fifth presidio was established in Sonoma following Mexican independence in 1821.
The 6th Army was not in Viet Nam, it’s equivalent unit would have probably been considered to be MAC-V.
Thanks for the update,PG. Kept thinking 6th Army HQs was part of Monterey and only used Presidio, CA as the name. Completely forgotten about San Francisco-my Dad would be rolling in his grave as he was stationed there in the late 1940s;did not know he was 6th Army (head hanging in shame). Not familiar with Spanish (always took German), so now know something “neu” for “fort” as well as Army History…thax again for the correction..😎
Actually its equivalent would be USARV–US Army Vietnam, the command HQ for all US military units Division level and below, excluding the advisor function units working with the ARVN.
I’m not so sure. According to various sources in addition to Wiki, USARV was a country-wide corps-level logistical service and support unit. It ran, for example, the ports in Saigon, Cam Ranh Bay, and Da Nang.
USARV was apparently roughly equivalent in scale to the corps-level field forces (I FF and II FF) which corresponded to the geographic military regions (actually MR but called “Corps”) II and III. Central Highlands units such as the 4th ID, and 173rd Airborne in Bin Dinh, for example, fell under I Field Force in Nha Trang, not USARV in Long Binh. The I FF in turn was controlled by MAC-V in Saigon. Being joint services, MAC-V also had control of Navy, Marine, and Air Force units.
And I probably just confused the bejeebers out of anyone who wasn’t in the Army…
Reporter Dan Heiss emailed this link to me
http://www.recordgazette.net/spann-resigns-over-fraudulent-military-service-allegations/article_f1031f8e-72de-11e7-a1f7-9bea0a90754f.html
“Nurses didn’t enlist. Do people think they just fell out of the sky? I did what I did, and I’m extremely proud of what I did.”
I believe she’s references vets on FB which pointed out or at least attempted to point out to her that Officers don’t enlist per se, they receive appointments.
She just doesn’t get it. If for some reason she went the enlisted route she wouldn’t have served as a Nurse and it makes her claims of what she did in Nam even less believable.
gotta luv the dumb ones
Accidental report, SARC. Some Officers enlisted. We’re called “Mustangs”. 🤠
Just messing with ya. The subject of this post, however, didn’t do she should take a long walk off a short pier!
So! Dammit, fucking autocorrect
In addition to the fact that there were no enlisted members of the US Army Nurse branch, there was no Army nurse in RVN with the job title “medevac nurse” who rode dustoff helos to the bush to recover WIA’s, period. These POSers rarely ever admit they are bald faced liars. After reading “Stolen Valor” and this website I believe there is an ever increasing epidemic of them.
She said this: ‘It seems like a very high price to pay for one’s integrity’.
This has me completely gobsmacked. She seems to be a compulsive liar. She has no integrity if she thinks this kind of thing is okay.
Glad I don’t live there. That is all.
Exactly…what integrity!
PAYBACK TIME? BANNING SCHOOL BOARD MAY DEMAND REIMBURSEMENT FROM PHONY VIETNAM COCKROACH JAN SPANN
http://www.thebanninginformer.com/?page_id=10191
Banning schools may seek reimbursement from former trustee
http://www.pe.com/2017/08/10/banning-schools-may-seek-reimbursement-from-former-trustee/
Hmmm, $306.29 a month stipend since being elected to the board in November 2013 (45 months) works out to be $13,783.05 in possible reimbursement.
Wonder if she’ll cough up that (fictional) DD214 now? Or will continue the “I will not be bullied” posture?
Not holding my breath on either one.
I hope Mike Sleeper is following this.
Yeah, and Mike Sleeper STILL HAS NOT coughed up the proof he promised even to this day, maybe he’s counting on his “Boss Hogg” Daddy-in-Law to bury it so he can get reelected? Either way, Michael Sleeper ODES need to either fess up or put up because just shutting up ain’t gonna cut the mustard.
Still listed as a member of the school board: http://www.banning.k12.ca.us/District-Administration/School-Board/Jan-Spann-Member/index.html