Charles Jenkins; phony POW
AverageNCO found this guy Charles Jenkins in a news story about a Confederate flag rally in Jacksonville, Florida;
“I spent 3 years, 9 months and 27 days as a POW in Vietnam,” said Charles Jenkins, a veteran and supporter of the Confederate flag. “So this hat gives me a right to fly this flag.”
Jenkins said his being there was not about the flag, but about the freedom he fought and nearly died for years ago.
“I don’t care if they wanted to come here and fly an African-American flag on that bridge today I would’ve backed them up, if they wanted to fly a gay flag I would’ve backed them up, they want to fly an ISIS flag I do have a problem with that one.”
Well, first of all, he’s not listed at DPAA, the Defense Department’s website for their list of POWs. None of the “Accounted For” Army POWs are named Jenkins. He was indeed a Vietnam veteran, and he earned a Purple Heart and an ARCOM with a valor device as well as a Combat Infantry Badge and jump wings, but he wasn’t a POW for three years;
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
There’s an African-American flag? I didn’t know that. And I had no idea that the one accrued 1st Amendment rights by being a POW. I used to think that they were ours by citizenship.
You have to be a citizen?
Another member of the Church of the Infallible Victim. (as in R. Dolezal)
No you silly goose not from being a POW but from the CIB
Florida. . . . it had to be Florida. What is it about Florida that collects these SVTs? The water? The air? The sunshine?
Frankly, I wouldn’t move to Florida if you paid me. The world’s largest sandbar, just waiting for the next big blow to wash away.
crap flows down stream?
gravitational pull?
Maybe Florida’s just a $hit magnet?
Poser migration patterns?
Decent weather year-round and no state income tax.
No snow to shovel.
Florida is such an awesome state that so many want to move here; both the good and the questionable types. After having visited 37 states, (back in ’65), I chose to make Florida my home. Best all around weather, good work, great fishing, and since every state has some sort of bad thing waiting in the wings, i.e. Tornado, earthquake, flood, blizzard, hurricane, I chose Florida because a Hurricane is tracked from far away, allowing anyone who cares too, plenty of time to evacuate, Can’t say that about most of the other state’s problems.
Love the Sunshine State, even with the dopes who migrate to here.
Hey Frankie, finally found place – South Florida though.
Words:
1. Florida
2. Red-neck
3. Trailor-trash
4. Idiot
5. Fraud
Florida
Tweeker
Shit
Bag
Trash.
Always with the fucking leather motorcycle vest all covered in bling.
hah, that was the thing that jumped out at me, too
Did you notice the T-shirt? A support shirt for a 1% club.
Florida? But that’s America’s wang.
Having been mentored as a youth by a real former POW, this toad snot-brained assclown makes me want to do a hymn…
FUCK HIM…
Fuck HIM…
FUCK him…
Ditto, ditto and ditto.
It’s bad enough these scumbags pose as a Veteran in any capacity….it just seems to me that posing as a former POW during that lousy, stinking war is a bit worse!
A firing squad seems in order.
There was a Charles Robert Jenkins that spent some time in Norklandia.
Yeah, I noticed that yesterday. But based on photos, I’m relatively certain it’s not the same guy.
Well, if you’re gonna make up a number, make it easy to remember.
3 days, 9 months, and 27 days? So, three to the third power? Three times three times three? 3, 9, 27? How many minutes did he spend, 91 on that last day?
What a jackass.
Just remember, to account for those 37 day months… they can really screw up the calculations.
– This dude has no stars on his CIB.
– Worked at “Dog Trainer”.
LEGIT!
I was wondering about the no stars on the CIB myself.
He obviously hasn’t made a Fort Hauchuca PX run lately.
Huh? Finally, I found someone who is worse at math than I am.
81
Congrats. You win a cupie doll!
Or kewpie.
As an aside, I’ve been dating a woman whose grandfather (deceased) was an actual POW. Like I found him listed as a POW of the Germans in World War 2. Guy’s long dead now, but he sounds like he was a hoot.
I have a friend whose Grandfather was a WWII POW, he was taken prisoner b the Germans when his Bomber was shot down. I had the honor and pleasure of meeting and knowing him before he passed on, another reason I hate fake POWs!
Both my high-school best friend and my early college girlfriend’s father were WWII POWs… Germans who liked the US enough to emigrate after the war. One’s father was an AA guy (stationed in Berlin, you KNOW he got pounded ) and the other an Africa Korps motorcycle courier. Fun guys.
The Faker Trifecta
Florida; Check
Leather Vest; Check
Moped Gang; Check
As a bonus he has a sense of entitlement that since he served(in his pea brain) his Constitutional Rights are more important than other Americans.
I agree with your theory about the Faker Trifecta. I would like to also add the “Baseball Bat Theory”, outlined here for the first time.
Once down in Florida, there is no rank among veterans but they interact frequently with each other because you can’t swing a dead opposum down there without hitting a vet. It is similar to honor among horses. So they exchange history like currency in an effort to validate each other. Much like tossing someone a baseball bat and they grab it, then each person puts their hand on top of each others until the reach the top to see who bats first, the stories accelerate until there is one-upmanship or someone lays down the ultimate trump card — I was a POW.
I humbly submit this theory for full an unpartial peer review by the group. Once validated, it will become part of mainstream faker slang.
Another minion in Phildo’s MC.
Phildo and the boys ride again!
For completeness, I’ll address this guy’s “‘Nam POW” claim in detail.
1. Here are the lists of accounted for personnel who were POW/MIA in Vietnam. Collectively, they include all personnel who returned/escaped captivity, or whose remains were returned or recovered:
http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_acc_p_name.pdf
http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_returnee.pdf
http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_escapee.pdf
Only two individuals with the last name “Jenkins” appear on these lists. The first is CDR Harry Tarrelton Jenkins, USN. He was taken POW in North Vietnam on 13 November 1965 and released on 12 February 1973. The second is MSgt Paul Laverne Jenkins, USAF. He was lost in Laos on 30 June 1970; his remains were later returned or recovered and were positively identified on 7 March 1995.
Obviously, the only one of these individuals who returned alive isn’t named “Charles” or “Charlie”.
2. Here’s the DPAA list of MIAs/POWs that remain unaccounted for from Vietnam.
http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_una_p_name.pdf
No one by the name of “Jenkins” remains unaccounted for from the Vietnam War. So he didn’t escape later and return on his own without DoD’s knowledge.
3. These lists include both military and civilian personnel. So any “secret prisoner” or “I was a civilian so DoD doesn’t list me” claims are IMO bogus as hell.
4. These lists include people held for as little as part of 1 day (captured and escaped on same day). So if he was held for 3+ years, he’d be there.
Bottom line: unless he served under a different name, this “fine individual” is nothing but a LSoS.
Well, well, well… another Vietnam POW. Bet you that during his time in the Hanoi Hilton he learned to love that VC delicacy, Cream of Sum Yung Guy soup!
Sounds real articulate in the video at the link. “So this hat gives me a right to fly this flag.” A real deal MR. SAT type…
Another rump ridin’ anal buttsekks warrior.
Looks like he may be kin to the ShOrTbUsWiNdoWlIcKeR… that same look in their eyes after going on a bender and dorking the neighbor’s Pomeranian in the front yard.
You mean after they go on a bender of Dutch Rudder Gang Cocktails (Rubbing alcohol with some formaldehyde and antifreeze for flavor garnished with a lead paint chip)?
I was thinking the same thing. Uncanny resemblance. Wonder if he’s a “trail ASSassin” as well.
Hulk Hogan hasn’t aged well…
On METH LMAO !!!!!
Another Florida phony fuck…
When are these twinkie lovers going to start using a little imagination?
Oh, sorry – I forgot: they don’t HAVE any imagination.
Ex-PH2,
In order to have an imagination, you first have to have a mind.
And I contend that if they had a mind, they wouldn’t be pulling any of this SVT in the first, second, or third place.
Well, lookee there, shitbag’s in some motorcycle club leather. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
*PTUI*
I feel bad for the dog in the picture.
His dogs are cared for and eat better tha you probably do , he would feed his dogs if it meant he had to go without
I am happy he does not mistreat his hunting dogs.
But he still has no record of service with the NPRC.
Yep. All that means is he’s a LSoS that treats his dogs well.
I wanto rip him off of that CIB (because a CIB should not have that much scum on it)or take the damit’s out of the one in his hat and repeatedly punch it into his forehead.
You people seem to have unlimited resorces so maybe you can find the list of awards I was giving for valorious action in Viet -Nam . If I posted them you would just say I bought them.But I welcome any of you to come here and see them and meet me in person and repeat the comments you posted on here and tell the Viet- Nam MC that we are all fake.
Right now, jenkins, nobody believes much of anything you say.
Charles, you are already assuming that we may say your awards were bought by you. Encourage you to post your awards on a new thread on this Blog as well as on your Facebook, that is, if you don’t mind. In the meantime, can you kindly explain on this Blod why you told folks you were a Vietnam POW when you weren’t?
Show us the DD214 that says you earned them. Better yet, complete and sign an SF180 and send it to the admins. We’re not taking your word for anything. And lose the “tough guy” act (“meet me in person. . .”). We’re not impressed.
If the military swag bling wasn’t enough of a red flag.
Seriously do any legit veterans wear that silly shit? I don’t.
I would like to say that you people know nothing about this man, he may not have been a POW but he did go to Vietnam at 17 years old and he was nearly killed and has a Purple Heart to prove it , this is a man who suffered with what you now called PTSD which they hadn’t came up with a name for back then , he also came back to a country that could have cared less about these vets , and yet he would still lay down his life for this country and anyone else he care about, he also came back and received no help from this country he loves so much , he battled PTSD with the only thing he had alcohol , this cost him everything , is family , friends , home everything , well he also managed to over come alcohol as well for over 25 years , this is a man who has worked very hard to help vets receive help that he didn’t get , this is a man who would give you the shirt of his back and his last dollar if you needed it , he lives off $767 dollars a month because that’s all this country he defended believes he deserves , let me ask you how many of you could do that? He also believes in our freedom so much that yes he will wear a 1 % er t- shirt and when it comes down to it they would have his back long before this shady government we have in place and these self righteous people he defended who have never spent a day defending this country a day in your life , so before you get on here and criticize a man who would lay down his life for your rights , you might want to try to walk a day , just one day in his shoes because you have no idea how hard and all the sacrifices he has made !
How do YOU know he went to Vietnam at the age of 17 and has a Purple Heart? Did you see his Military records…or is it based on what he told you? What happened with his POW claim? If he lied about that, what else is he lying about?
She knows because he is our father. My mother still had his military records.
So when and where did he serve? Exactly what records does your Mother have? Why can’t your Father speak for himself? Why did he claim to be a Vietnam POW?
Yes I have seen his records and I have his Purple Heart in my possession , I’m not saying he was right in what he said I am saying he did serve and was injured and does love this country very much
Do you have his records? If so, when and where did he serve and what did he serve as? Exactly what documents have you seen or have? Why are you speaking for him? Can’t he speak for himself? How do you know he has PTSD?
Another Zombie thread sockpuppet?
How many is that so far this year?
I think we’ve been averaging at least one a week.
And this one truly is a freeze dried Hulk Hogan lookalike.
https://www.facebook.com/norebah1967?hc_location=ufi
more likely kin from the same trailer park
Read the top of the post – NPRC does not have any records of your “hero” serving and NO Purple Heart!
How many others has he duped with his BS claims?
Chucky boy is a Stolen Valor loser!
If you read it say they cannot find it, it says this does not mean he didn’t serve , it simply means that you did not provide enough information for them to find it , I have all his Vietnam pictures , dog tags and Purple Heart , he has nothing to prove to any of you , and if I could post a picture on here you would see him in his full military dress uniform
Rebekah, you are wrong. If they didn’t find his records, I promise you HE DID NOT SERVE! The admins of this blog most certainly DID provide the required information for NPRC to find his records, if there were any. They are VERY careful to make sure that they have EVERYTHING right, and if they post someone on this blog as a poser, you can take it to the bank that the admins can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Photos, dog tags, medals, certificates all prove NOTHING. Those all can be and have been faked/forged MANY times. Some have even tried to forge discharge papers, but those of us who have served (most of us on this board) can spot a forgery in seconds.
Please, you and Lisa need to stop believing lies. Your father did not serve. He was never in Vietnam. He was never a POW. He didn’t receive a Purple Heart. The sooner you come to terms with his lies, the sooner you can start to heal.
You have no idea I have all kinds of pictures of him , it no lie and why does he get VA benefits ?
Well, if you have all kinds of pictures of him, post the pictures that are Army related to your Facebook page.
Time to put up or shut up.
It’s now been an hour and no new pictures have been posted to Rebekah’s Facebook.
I guess she decided to shut up rather than put up.
Yep, as I said: Like Father, like Daughter. Crickets. Enablers. Co-Dependency.( Gee, does this all sound familiar?)
My profile picture is of him on his uniform
That’s only one picture and it could be of anybody.
What happened to “all kinds of pictures”???
Again, put up or shut up.
Was he in a Salvation Army uniform? Ringing a bell, perhaps? Or maybe running off with the pot….
You, your Father and your sister, Lisa have yet to address and answer our questions on his military service. Why? A picture does not mean anything.
That photo means nothing and proves nothing, Rebekah. You say it’s him (probably because he told you so), but there’s no evidence of that. As long as you and your sister continue in this delusion that your father served, that he was a POW, that he received a Purple Heart, etc., you can expect nothing but contempt from us. We know the truth. Show us something that PROVES he served. Everything you mentioned so far can be easily faked.
Actually, the cap in your profile pic is that of a Glider regiment. The last glider regiments were deactivated in 1948. Fail avian Rebekah!!!!!
That pic in your fb profile is not Charles as that Garrison cap sure pre dates Viet Nam and goes back to the WWII era
OH, no! Reviving a long-since deactivated WWII regiment is a definite NO-NO, and a surefire sign of bullshit, more shit, piled hip deep.
Wow you people are something else, the picture absolutely is my father , and this is a waste of valuable time , we know he served and we know the man he is and all the people he helps , so I will always stand proud with him for all he’s done , no matter how much you try to belittle his service to his country
Whatever.
You should spend your “valuable” time looking for a place to move to or start over once this shitbag implodes.
I respect, somewhat, you loyalty, although misplaced. maybe you should look top the future because supporting this tool is not it.
Step up or ooze out.
Rebekah, that is not your father. That is a soldier from WWII, no matter what he told you. Maybe it’s your grandfather or another relative, but it’s not your father. If he told you that’s him, he lied to you, just as he lied about the Purple Heart and about being a POW.
Rebekah: Where are his RECORDS? BTW and believe it or not, there are those who have collected VA Benefits…and never serve. They lied about being in the Military. They got caught. Hmmm, this must run in the family: So far, you and your Father have not answered our questions. Wonder why…
Rebekah, people lie to the VA all the time and get benefits. Unfortunately, the VA doesn’t do a good job of checking these things.
I don’t care how many photos you have of him. They mean NOTHING as far as proving that he served. People fake military photos all the time, too.
The only way to clear this up is for your father to fill out and sign an SF180 authorizing his records to be sent to the admins here. He can download the form and follow the instructions here:
https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/standard-form-180.html
He gets benefit because he is a crook.
In case you haven’t heard, they have these things called “periods” a punctuation mark (.) used at the end of a sentence or an abbreviation. It makes it easier for people to follow your thoughts, though I doubt anyone here would want to follow your thoughts.
Silly, silly, silly. Like no one here served and has no reason to lie about their service.
Whatever. Some people just prefer to live with lies. Not really worth the time it took to type out this comment, but there ya go anyway.
Because, like, we who actually showed up to serve in the military have no appreciation for folks who lie about serving and seriously don’t like those who defend them. So he wants to blame his bad choices on something he never did? What a horrid thing to do. And stupid.
Try defending someone who deserves it next time. While you are at it, quit insulting real veterans, some of whom have suffered things you can not imagine.
He did serve. My mother had his records. I have the pictures. And, while I would never discredit the suffering of any veteran, my father has also experienced his share of trauma. He had been captured apparently, but was not a POW and I’m sorry that he said that.
Who captured him? And how was he injured? Who gave him a Purple Heart?
General Westmoreland
Lisa – there is NO way that someone can be captured and NOT be a POW. If he told you otherwise, then he’s FOS.
He’s lying about being a POW, and that opens his credibility up to serious question.
Also be aware that we’ve had numerous turds present falsified records here, or submitted certificates that anyone can buy off the Internet and spruce up for their own use. What records are you talking about? And whatever records you DID see, why does the National Personnel Records Center come back and say he never served?
Depends. Don’t think the folks who were captured and ended up doing a “short tour at the LBJ” were granted POW status. (smile)
One thing is for sure Lisa, and it’s that you are not doing him any favors by resurrecting this once-dormant thread. You’re increasing the power of Google®™ on your Daddy!
If you have photographs proving your father’s service, perhaps you can furnish them to the administrator, and if they are legitimate, your father will receive a heartfelt apology.
That being said, what are the photographs of? Are they original photographs taken in Vietnam, or are they copied from a magazine or website? Do the photographs clearly show his face, or are they taken from a distance with no discernable features of the people? Does he have any copies of orders, Leave & Earning Statements, certificates from military training? Does he regularly communicate with people that he served with? How about a newspaper clipping from Military Public Affairs announcing that he graduated Basic Training? I can answer yes to all of those questions. I have documents going back 35 years that can verify my (modest) military claims, and a week doesn’t go by that I don’t speak to someone that I served with.
Unfortunately, you are not the first, and you won’t be the last, family member to come here defending your love bed one only to discover that everything he told you is a lie. And that is something he has to live with. I don’t blame you, he made you a victim too.
When did your Father go to Nam,in other words what year and month? Hint, in 1965 Congress passed a law that only 18 years old could be sent to Nam. Show the proof of his service ? No, he did not go to Nam at 17. Check this for yourself. I arrived in Nam just months before my 19th birthday in June of 1966. Joe
The 17 years old was a typo, he was 18 , so my apologize for a typographical error
I do not believe you Charles! Seventeen was used at least 3 times. Still no year and month, or any answers to my simple questions. Joe
“…he may not have been a POW…”
Correction, Rebekah – he was NEVER a POW.
“I would like to say that you people know nothing about this man…”
Yes, we do. That document at the top of this blog page that shows he NEVER served, and the DOD records that show he was NEVER a POW tell us everything we need to know.
As for your assertion that he has a Purple Heart…many, many thousands of service members have suffered great pain, bled, lost limbs, sight and hearing, and much more. They DESERVE the Purple Heart. Many of them never received it in person…it had to be engraved on their head stones, because they perished from the wounds that made them Purple Heart receipients.
This turd you are trying to support NEVER suffered, NEVER bled, NEVER went through what our wounded and POWs went through. For that, he deserves to be labeled a lying scumbag, a thief who tries to steal honor and respect that he neither earned nor deserves.
Whose name is engraved on the back of the Purple Heart? Seeing how Gen. Weatmoreland gave him The P.H. . Joe
try again sweetheart. there is no disability rating from the VA that pays $767.00. Maybe that’s his Social Security.
http://www.benefits.va.gov/COMPENSATION/resources_comp01.asp
Rebekah, Your statement, of his “military history” has the “markings” of a faker/embellisher’s story. You’ll find the truth underneath his history of alcohol abuse. His alcohol abuse did what you said it did, as it would have similar impacts with other families. It would also lead to other misjudgments and negative actions. This would include altercations with family, friends, and others in society. It’s so easy, in this situation, to “blame PTSD” for what really should be blamed on poor judgement amplified by alcohol abuse. The country refused to help him? Chances are, he didn’t have the military record proof needed to originally qualify for that help in the first place. He probably didn’t initially want that help. So now, he has this history that resulted from his poor judgment mixed with alcohol. He blames “PTSD” for his anti social behaviors instead of blaming the person he should’ve blamed, himself. If he’s getting VA benefits now, and he did so based on false claims, Charles Jenkins is going to have bigger problems to worry about than what’s being said about him here. Perhaps the administrators might find something on him based on the information that you provided. If he did serve, I wouldn’t be surprised that his service was more mundane, and that if he did serve, his service had an early end due to his poor judgments. You say you have his records. Why don’t you provide Jonn, and the site admins, with scanned copies of those documentations? We would be able to spot, right off the bat, if those are legitimate, as we also have military record related documentation. We’d also like to see full blown pictures of him in his dress uniform… One that clearly shows all of the awards and decorations that he’s wearing on that uniform. Your sister and you, as his daughters, will understandably see us as being cruel and unappreciative, and that your dad “has done” what he claims to have done. The majority of us posting on these comments sections are in the military or are veterans, and a good percentage of… Read more »
Whatever.
Dude is a turd.
And by the looks of him, I would watch him closely around young kids.
That is my father and he’s been through more in his life than you’ll ever know. How dare you insinuate he’s a child molester!
What was his Rank? What Military schooling did he attend and when? Where was he stationed? When did he get out? Why did he claim to be a Prisoner of War? Why can’t he speak for himself?
“Why can’t he speak for himself?”
Word.
Especially how wide that mouth is in the photo up top.
I imagine I know. Something along the lines of 12 inches in his suck.
Turd.
Lisa – whatever he went through in life, it did NOT involve serving in the Armed Forces.
Lisa,
NO ONE here said that, you did!
Don’t go making stuff up that was not said.
We know exactly what we are doing here!
Out!
I really resent this statement that I do not know about tough times. $439 a month from the VA. PTSD was first Post Vietnam Delayed Stress Sysdmone. I was fighting the VA long before this was finally something we brought back with us. Joe
Mother fucker come to Jacksonville Fl. and meet this old man in person
Charles Jenkins does not know me.
Mom ?
You are nothing more than a dehydrated turd.
Motherfucker post your “records” and prove we’re wrong. Motherfucker. See? I can be an internet tough guy too.
Prove you did serve, or become internet famous.
Charles Jenkins,
I will try to be a voice of reason. First off you flat out lied about being a POW.
That is not debatable.
The National Archives and FOIA are not foolproof, however what I have noticed is that when they do come up empty and the person did serve, the person will stonewall when asked for information because their service is nowhere near what they say it is.
I’m estimating you were born in 1946 and would have been of draft age in 1964, give or take a year.
Two years of active service as a draftee would have meant you got out in 1966 or 1967.
You could have had served and never went to Vietnam, like the majority of Servicemen in the early to mid 60s.
If you can’t come up with any paperwork post the dates you were in country and the unit, and where it was at.
Simple enough.
Start claiming to be a Navy SEAL, you’ll definitely get a visit. 🙄
I never ever met your moma, so don’t go accusing me of anything you fantasized. However, I don’t live that far from J’ille. Give your address and phone number to the Administrator Jonn Lilyea; he can send it to me. I WILL come to see you. That’s a PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why were my comments deleted?
Lisa – your comments aren’t deleted. They may take a while to post, if you’re a new poster here, as the owner/moderator of the blog (Jonn) reviews posts from newbies to screen them for spam.
The board administrators do not delete comments unless those comments contain personal information (Social Security #, address, home phone number). New commenters are held in queue until Jonn can verify that the commenter is a legitimate person, and not one of the Dutch Rudder Gang members up to no good. Once your first comment posts, the rest should usually post immediately.
Unless you are involved in producing falsified documents or knowingly perpetrate his lies, you are likely just another victim of those lies. Perhaps his lies are something you have heard your entire life. If that is so, you have our sympathy.
However, do not compound his bad behavior by continuing to repeat his lies. Don’t take our word for it – request his records yourself and verify that what is posted here is true. You can heal from his victimization, but only if you acknowledge the truth, not to us, but to yourself.
Very well said, OWB!
Rebekah: You stated you have seen his records, yet you have not answered any questions (See all of our questions). Why? Having dog tags, pictures and a Purple Heart does not prove anything. Heck, GI Joe came with his own Dog Tags.
May I see yours
Here is where mine is located,https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/
LIKE, LIKE, LIKE!!! Well, Charles? Your question was answered. Are you going to be that tough Vietnam POW and answer the other questions?
I doubt it.
He probably never talked.
But ,more than likely worked some balls during his incarceration.
Clown.
a 214 is not that hard to get.. in fact if you need help there are many groups out here that will help
You know I run Judy’s pup in Jackonville fl. Most of my customers are menbers of the Viet – Nam MC. we would like to buy a drink’ I am also a member of American Leigon Post 7909 and VFW post 137 if you son of a bitches need more info
Welcome to TAH, asswipe.
Now, start telling your kin the TRUTH.
So, that means you’re authorizing them to send the site owner a copy of the DD214 you provided them when you joined – right?
Well, well! Looky here! So you finally decided to show up yourself, instead of hiding behind your daughters’ skirts?
So, start talking. Either put up or shut up. Provide the admins of this blog with a signed SF180, if you insist that you really did serve. We’ll believe it when we see it.
I love the SF-180, I carry one with me all the time!
MCPO says, “just sign here sucka”.
Out!
By the way – I believe that should be AL Post 137 and VFW Post 7909. Those two are indeed in Jacksonville, FL.
Send a copy of your 214 to the admin if you want to clear this up.
DPAA says you were never a POW – here’s the link:
http://www.dpaa.mil/
Did you use phony documents to get into the AL and VFW? Wouldn’t be the first time someone has done that.
Dear POW of the War on the Viet of the Nam,
Why are you dropping the name of “Viet – Nam MC”?
Just curious …
BTW: Your spelling, not mine.
Signed,
Sunnamabitch MCPO
CHARLIE, being a member of those clubs does not mean you are legit. I call BULLSHIT on you in Nam as a 17 year old. Who did you serve with? Which Corp were operating in? Which branch of service ? What was your MOS ? Simple questions and easy to answer! See there are about 6 (FAKERS) for each actual Nam VET. Oh by the way, what is your age ? Joe
What’s your serial number, Jenkins?
Wow, Charlie. Real live Vietnam Vet Harley club? Do they all wear those silly fucking black vests with unearned military awards, like you do?
Anybody else here quaking in their cowboy boots?
Nah, me either.
Hey Jenkins, eat a bag of shit. Fucking poser
“You know I run Judy’s pup in Jackonville fl. Most of my customers are menbers of the Viet – Nam MC. we would like to buy a drink’ I am also a member of American Leigon Post 7909 and VFW post 137”
So you’re legit by affiliation? Bullshit. I work every fukking day with active duty Rangers, SEALS, and Green Berets. I am none of those things.
Wait….you’d like to buy a drink…for who? The fakers that you roll with? No thanks, dickface. I’ll buy my own. ESAD. FOAD. STFU.
Charles Jenkins: You know I run Judy’s pup in Jackonville fl. That only tells us that you run something. You can’t extrapolate that into an argument that you served in the capacity that you’re claiming to serve in. If anything, your attitude here tells us that we should steer clear of your establishment, when considering a place to hang out at, on the account that your attitude is reflective of how you’d approach your job… judgment wise. Charles Jenkins: Most of my customers are menbers of the Viet — Nam MC. Neither you, nor those that post here, know that for a fact. Many of them could be like you, either faking their service or embellishing it. Even if they were all legitimate veterans, that doesn’t prove whether you served or not. Charles Jenkins: we would like to buy a drink’ Apparently, you and those like you would also like to buy award symbols for awards that you guys may not have earned. Charles Jenkins: I am also a member of American Leigon Post 7909 and VFW post 137 if you son of a bitches need more info We’ve lost count of how many fakers and embellishers have been busted who have also been members of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Consequently, your membership with those organizations don’t prove your service, and any information we get from them could turn up phony/forged documentation. One of your daughters claims to have your military records. We could get this all cleared up if you scan those documents, and send them to the site administrator for this website. If you’ve done the things that you’ve claimed to have done, Jonn and others will come out and clear things up, apologize where applicable, and set the record straight. If you didn’t do those things, you need to come clean to your daughters, family, friends, etc. You’re hurting them with your lies just as you’re hurting the veteran community. Speaking of which, you should also apologize to the veteran community, then go by your record as someone running a pub/pup. Also,… Read more »
Well, well, well…if this is REALLY Charles Jenkins. If this us REALLY you and you are calling us MF, then you should have no problems connecting the Admin of TAH and sending your RECORDS, that is, IF you have them. According to your daughters, their Mother has your records. Strange. Very strange. So, Charles, since you are here and IF this is you, why don’t you answer all the questions we asked your daughters. We are waiting…for your answers.
I dunno…I’d kinda like to see pics before I say yes or no.
…and seriously, who here hasn’t fukked someone’s mother. It’s not like it’s a bad thing.
Ummmm. . . . . .
Three ways count.
Yeah, I don’t roll that way. LOL!
Wow, someone is bucking for the Fecal Four this year.
That’s TWO today. This and the other Phony Vietnam POW, Steve Valcke.
Charlie, hell, my 215 is on my phone, with PII redacted.
I have no problem showing it to anyone who asks. So please, do tell–why all the bluff and bluster?
214. Damn fat fingers.
Doesn’t that make it a Cricket Division now?
I hope this does not become another Cricket Brigade (for reference, see Edward William Richards and Bill Schwartz as well as Michael Killam and Joe Gainey on TAH).
Jenkins is gone.
He’s over on his Facebook page posting shit about homemade Round-Up.
*I spent 3 years, 9 months and 27 days as a POW in Vietnam*
Yeah, right, and I’m the Easter Bunny.
Claw: Another Cricket Brigade. That makes 3.
Charlie is nothing but a ballsack warrior… probably loves to suck down some of that Cream of Sum Yung Guy soup that his “buddy” No Duk Dong feeds him weekly.
Tell us a story about being “in the SHIT” with Ricke Paddy Daddy, Scrotum Face Charlie???
If Hulk Hogan had a creepy uncle….
Wait – Hulk Hogan IS a creepy uncle.
BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!
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I wrote a polite but pointed email to both the AL Post and the VFW there.
Will be interesting to see what they say.
Good work!
I joined a VFW post years ago and seeing my DD214 was a prerequisite to becoming a member.
Lisa, your father was most likely a draft dodger. There were women serving more time in Vietnam then he ever thought of putting in and it’s farm more likely that
he was out burning his draft card while those women AND men were actually in country, Toots.
Ask him what his serial number was. He should remember that. What was his company number in boot camp? Those are things you don’t forget.
If NPRC does not have any records on your old man, it’s because he never put in one second of his time. I could probably find pictures that show him in a crowd of protesters in Chicago at the DNC convention in 1968, or even one of those Summer of Love 8mm films, where everyone got high and danced naked in the parks.
Your old man has been lying to you for decades.
Try that on for size.
Oh, and while I’m at it, Jenkins, what’s your goddamn serial number, asshole???
Cough it up. It’s no secret.
RA 138 45 837
Wrong, Chris Jenkins, That is NOT an Army service number from that era. It would have 2 digits, a space, 3 digits, a space, 3 digits. Not as you have presented it. That is a made up number. I served during that era, and I know what the number sequence is.
Jenkins, you dumb sorry sack of shit. You know how I know you’re dumb? You revived a dormant post, you dumb fuckwad. Now you’re TAH famous…again. It’s best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Ok,I was gonna stay outta this but you guys are nowhere as smart as you think you are.he don’t want to lower his self to yalls level.il tell you some of what I know.serial number….RA 138 45 837…..enlisted in April of 65 went to ft.benning ga,came home 30 days went to Vietnam early august 65 came home Sept 66.in Nam he was in the 101 airborne and 173 airborne got his cib by being in nam.when he got back he was in ft Bragg with 82 airborne. When he got out in march of 68 he was in ft.meade……..I’m his son and yes I’m from the same trailer park
hmmm, let’s see now. The son says:
Enlisted April 1965. Discharged March 1968.
But how can that be when:
” I spent 3 years, 9 months and 27 days as a POW in Vietnam ” says Charles Jenkins.
Modern Math? Or outright lie?
I think I’ll go with the outright lie about being a POW.
im not here to prove pow status or even length of service.you can go back and read all the ignorant comments saying he NEVER served.im proving service,my dad aint arguing with yall because he says he owes yall nothing ,and hes right.he probably saw more combat action in nam than any of you have ever saw,if you were even in the military.and im done too.he/we owe you nothing.he did tell me one thing though ,when he was in,men were men, women were women, and they knew the difference.after the gov.got tired of being sued by cry babies who couldnt handle a DI making fun of their mother,the DOD has soften upi boot camp so you guys could make it.also yall done a fair share of blaming and name calling on here.well it is no secret where we are,JACKSONVILLE FL he says yall can kiss his 70 yr old ***.you want to see his DD214 come to jville like a man and hel show it to you in person otherwise gtfu and shut up
Sounds more to me like he’s afraid someone might notice something “odd” about his documents.
We know Jenkins lied about being a POW. The question is whether or not that’s all he lied about.
We’ll know soon enough if the serial number you provided is legit, and if your father served as (presumably) he claimed. We’d find out sooner if you or he actually gave a damn about “clearing his name”, though.
Easy way to get this cleared up would be to photocopy his DD214, redact his SSN (if present – not sure if they were putting those on Army DD214s in 1968 or not) and any other PII like NOK, scan the redacted copy, and send it to the site owner (see the “Contact Us” block).
A person with nothing to hide and who actually wanted to clear their name would IMO probably do exactly that. Someone with something to hide? Um, probably not.
But do whatever the two of you like. NPRC doesn’t care, and they eventually answer the mail.
So, Mr. Jenkins…you’re making comments about military training these days. What is YOUR record of service in the military?
And…why did he lie about being a POW? What else is he lying about?
The fact that he lied about being a POW is enough to be labeled a scumbag.
Chris Jenkins, may I suggest you take some remedial Grammar and Spelling Lessons so you don’t look like a fifth grade dropout when you post?
Chris, I got my CIB on Route Tampa just south of Baghdad. Where did you get yours?
Given your comments on the softening of basic training so us guys could make it, I’d argue that the Florida school system must have softened English education so you guys could make it. Unfortunately for you, your assertion is pure supposition while mine is proven by the screed that you’ve posted above. Please use http://www.merriam-webster.com/ so you can comprehend the multisyllabic words.
Thus far nobody has given any PROOF that Charles served. Given the fact that you have stated you have a veritable museum’s worth of physical evidence and pictures but chose to release one questionable picture and a Service Number that may or may not be his and will take weeks to verify, the fact that we aren’t lining up to apologize is not exactly surprising.
I’m still trying to figure out why the Mother (not Jenkins Mother) has Jenkins military records. That is what the daughter wrote. As I said, Jenkins and his two daughters are avoiding our questions.
Did it ever occur to ur stupid tail,mom and dad were married? Later separated then divorced,he moved away and his stuff just stayed at home.you guys are a disgrace to the military, hard to believe you are so stupid
Your sister,Lisa, was kind enough to explain why your Mother has your Father’s Records. So now can you explain to us why your Father said he was a Vietnam POW? Isn’t that “stupid”?
I guess you did not fall far from the family tree.
Or maybe he was in that crowd of protesters at the Pentagon in the fall of 1967, across the street from my barracks in Arlington, VA. I got to watch that from the hillside. It was a warm, sunny afternoon. I saw the MPs drag a few protesters out of the Pentagon, after they’d tried to break into the Selective Service files.
Good times.
I think that they just tore those barracks down a few years ago.
Yes, I think it’s all hi-rise apartments now. I looked for my old apartment building and it’s been replaced by hi-rises, too.
I’ve posted answers to many of yalls retarded assertions,hmm can’t seem to get em posted.
Looks like someone didn’t bother to read the site’s FAQ.
Jenkins, you are a serial liar. Your phony serial number is just that – PHONY.
Where were you running with the draft protesters? New York? Washington? the Pentagon in October 1967? SanFran and the Summer of Love? Chicago at the DNC convention when Hizzoner gave the ‘shoot to kill’ order to the po-po?
You can bullshit people all you want to, but there are far too many people who were in Indian Country like Joe Williams and the Air Cav guys, or stateside like me, who know better.
You’ve spent the bulk of your life making stuff up. You were too much of a shit to even show up.
Where’d you burn your draft card, you crapweasel?
Charles,
It’s over.
You have never been and will never be what you claim to be. So in admitting it, you are really giving up nothing at all.
You can still be a man. Man up and quit pretending. That’s the right thing to do and the only respectable choice.
Free yourself and your kin of this burden. Get on with your life.
I want to know how this dumb fuck served in a glider regiment, being that the last one’s were deactivated in the late 40’s
I imagine he was.
But probably not the type you are thinking.
Dude looks felonious. That being said, I imagined he joined when he was a POW. That would be “Prisoner of Washington”. That was probably were he spent those “Vietnam” years. Or maybe another state, who knows?
Still a shitbag.
But the good news is that he could always get a job at All-Points Logistics picking up cigarette buts in their parking lot.
Phildo would hire him on the spot.
Hey why aren’t u letting my post appear? Could it be cuz you all will look like a bunch of horses butts
No, it’s because the admin moderates new posters, you horse’s ass.
I see your post I’m just wondering why they’ve not reported what they found with the information you provide them?
The FOIA process (FOIA request followed by reply from NPRC giving extract of info from the individual’s records or a notice that no records could be located) typically takes somewhere between 2 weeks and several months, with 2-4 weeks being typical. A signed request is required, and faxing the request only speeds up the process by a day or two.
Follow-up request is going out in today’s mail.
James, if you want someone to report what they found today, scan a copy of your DD-214 with the PII redacted and e-mail it to the admins here (see the “contact us” button at the top. I’m willing to bet that they will let everyone know if the DD-214 is legitimate and what your service status is (to include the POW status) in less than a day.
He’d rather type voluminous retorts using bad grammar laced with epithets than do what is simple and easy.
Just because someone that falsely claims to be a POW and PH recipient is a viewed by fellow veterans as a scumbag somewhere on a level between a syphilitic chancre and a yeasty quim is certainly no reason to tell the truth quickly.
Well, I looked at the picture. It does look as if it was a uniform from the 1960s (Khaki Shirt with Black Tie).
I did not serve during the Vietnam timeframe, but recognize the shirt and tie.
Any Soldier who served during that timeframe and who have access to a Facebook to view the picture: Does it look like the uniform you might have worn?
It might be him. It might be a brother. Or cousin. Or friend.
His Dog Tags would have his information, but may be too sensitive/personal to share here.
BTW: I’m done asking questions that don’t get answered by the Trio.
My brother has posted 4 post since 7:50 pm with the information y’all have been asking for , it’s amazing they still haven’t shown up at 10:16 pm , I guess you people don’t really want the truth
So a picture that could be anyone is proof? We only have your word that it’s actually him in the picture- meanwhile we have proof that he never served from the government.
What information, Rebekah? We see nothing from your brother yet. Maybe the posts are sitting in the admin’s inbox, waiting for him to make sure they aren’t from a random spammer (we get a lot of those here).
But no matter–the only information that counts is a scan of his discharge papers. We’ll tell you quickly whether or not they’re legit. Don’t bother with any more photos (including photos of a Purple Heart) certificates, VA disability, etc. None of that counts as proof that your father served.
Rebekah, please read the kind comments to your sister Lisa when she thought her comments were deleted. Also, recommend you read about TAH (“About Us”) to understand why your brothers comments are late posting here. I hope he answers our questions since you, your Sister and Father have been silent on those questions.
Rebekah: as is clearly noted in the site’s FAQ, comments from first-time commenters are held until reviewed by the site owner. Your brother’s comments are awaiting review. Jonn has a life and often doesn’t review comments during the evenings.
Your later comments are in moderation because of a typo in your ID info, causing them to be flagged as comments by a first-time commenter (and thus they’re being held for review). This is Jonn’s site, so he makes the review and call.
I have the info, and will file a follow-up FOIA today using the Serial Number you and your brother provided. Assuming your father served under the name “Charles R. Jenkins”, that should be enough for a records “hit” – if records exist. I’ll forward whatever I find to Jonn.
Getting a reply to a FOIA request takes anywhere between 2 weeks and several months.
Look at the cap device, AskaMarine. It’s WWII, not authorized since about 1948.
Yes, Eden. I noticed and questioned the Patch on the garrison cap as well and thought ??? Then I did some research and made a couple of calls asking others about it. Was told that PIR units did wear that patch on their cap during the Vietnam timeframe. Possibly late 50s, early mid 1960s? I do recognize the shirt and tie the guy is wearing in the picture. Had family members wear that same uniform in the 1960s. That is why I said the picture could be him, but also could be a brother, a cousin, a neighbor, a friend or bought on Ebay. That is why I am asking all the questions about his service, which have not been answered by Rebekah, Lisa or Jenkins. By them not answering our questions, I have strong doubts he served our country and was wounded.
His serial number is RA-138-45-837 WENT OVER WITH THE 101st airborne then assigned to 173rd airborne….got back to ft bragg assigned to 82 airborne….that hat in the pic is called a garrison cap. you can google 1965 airborne garrison and see pics.the soldiers called em cunt caps
You really think you need to edjumacate us on the term cunt cap?
You really are unaware of the operational environment at TAH.
Next you’ll you’ll be telling us all about the demands of jump school, ruck marches and and the difference between cover and concealment. I can hardly wait.
As the war progressed a new variation in design emerged. This was called the Para-Glider cap patch. It consisted of a glider, as described above, superimposed over a parachute, also as described above. Initial production included an infantry version with white or light blue embroidery on a blue background and an artillery/engineer version, white on scarlet. The final color scheme allowed a one-patch-serves-all design. It was the white embroidered para-glider design, on an ultramarine blue background with a scarlet embroidered edge. This is the same design used today. As the war progressed a new variation in design emerged. This was called the Para-Glider cap patch. It consisted of a glider, as described above, superimposed over a parachute, also as described above. Initial production included an infantry version with white or light blue embroidery on a blue background and an artillery/engineer version, white on scarlet. The final color scheme allowed a one-patch-serves-all design. It was the white embroidered para-glider design, on an ultramarine blue background with a scarlet embroidered edge. This is the same design used today.As the war progressed a new variation in design emerged. This was called the Para-Glider cap patch. It consisted of a glider, as described above, superimposed over a parachute, also as described above. Initial production included an infantry version with white or light blue embroidery on a blue background and an artillery/engineer version, white on scarlet. The final color scheme allowed a one-patch-serves-all design. It was the white embroidered para-glider design, on an ultramarine blue background with a scarlet embroidered edge. This is the same design used today. Also describes the patch on his hat………says still used today
http://castraponere.com/bloodonthetalon/u-s-army-airborne-and-glider-troop-garrison-caps-and-patches-of-ww2-part-3/
Now my comments wait moderation , when proof is presented
Stand corrected on stating PIR units. Meant Airborne Infantry Regiments whose heritage were the Glider Infantry Regiments during WW2.
The 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment served in Vietnam. Their history traces back to being a Glider Regiment. Whoever is in that picture probably served with that unit. The uniform is definitely from the late 1950s to 1960s, Vietnam timeframe.
Durn, durn, durn
Another SNAFU on my part. Meant the 327th Airborne Infantry Regiment served in Vietnam, not 325th. Sorry.
Did anyone but me catch his time in Nam? Thirteen months, was not the Army and Air Force only a 12 month tour? Joe
Good question, Joe. Don’t know the answer to this…perhaps Hondo knows?
AskaMarine, the only thing ol’ Chuckie needs to do is send his serial number to TAH admin for confirmation.
That is not classified information, and never has been. And even classified info from that time period has long since been declass, for Pete’s sake.
I contend that this entire zombie thread count revival is merely a play for attention by someone who now wishes he hadn’t run away when he got his draft notice.
Agree. And again, why would the Mother of his daughters have his records. Hopefully, those records will be shared with Admin and are not fakes.
AskaMarine…when my father got back from the war, he struggled with alcoholism among other things. Ultimately, they divorced and she just always had them to keep them safe. I have not answered your questions yet because I don’t know his serial numbers or anything. I wasn’t born until 1972. I have seen many pictures of my dad in uniform and different Army papers. My mother would never lie about anything. You have been one of the only people on here who’s been respectful. Thank you for that and hopefully, my brother’s comments will clear things when they are approved by admin.
Lisa, you are welcome. In reality, the folks on this Blog are outstanding folks. You have to understand the majority of us have served as well. Please read “About Us”. I cannot speak for others, but I do admit that I get perturb when I read someone claiming to be a Vietnam POW. Those gentlemen went thru HELL. Some came back. Others did not. Looking forward in reading your brother’s comments and hopefully, your Father can admit on this Forum as well to others that he did not tell the truth in claiming to be a POW. As far as his records, perhaps you can scan your Father’s records and email them to Admin. As others have shared, we don’t have a problem admitting we were wrong if we are wrong, but we expect the same from those who either did not tell the truth or enbellish their military service. Thank you for getting back with us. Again, please understand where we are coming from when we ask questions or make comments.
I understand the questions, but not comments insinuating he’s a child molester or has 12 inches in his mouth. As a nurse, I care for vets everyday and would never disrespect them. Nevertheless, my dad’s serial #is RA 138 45 837…..173 airborne then assigned to 101 airborne in vietnam…..then 82 airborne at ft bragg when he returned.
That is not a military serial number, Lisa.
It is baloney. If anything, those are health care denial code numbers cobbled together to look like something they are not.
He’s lying to you.
I don’t know which “cap device” you are discussing, but having been 101st Airborne 1960-64, this is the patch we wore on our cunt cap:
We would laugh among ourselves about changing the glider to a HUEY.
I doubt that those who questioned the patch are/were Airborne, making it an easy confusion.
Is it possible he might have been with the 327th Airborne Infantry Regiment while in Vietnam? They were previously a Glider Infantry Regiment during WWII. Just speculating until Hondo obtains his records or his children send Admin his records.
Just found a picture of another Soldier wearing the same cap as the picture provided for Jenkins:
http://www.oldwardogs.us/lloyd_a_king/
Scroll down to “Russ Vaughn”. The post states the guy served in Vietnam with the 2nd BN, 327th of the 101st.
Now, back to Jenkins’ claim of being a Vietnam POW….That we know is not true.
Charles Robert Jenkins? About 69 years old, wife or former wife named Norma? Used to live in Unionville VA? So you claim you went to Vietnam in 1964 or 65? What unit? What was your MOS?
You will be internet famous, all of your “friends” are going to find out you’re a phony. Turd.
http://www.intelius.com/search/people/Charles-Jenkins/Jacksonville-FL?refer=3123&adword=PS.SING.RESULTS.NAME
Hmm… those dates always trip people up. Anyone who was actually in that particular operation would know who was or was not there. I’d say ol’ chuckie-duck here wasn’t there – EVER.
That’s funny considering neither one of them as ever lived in Unionville Va I gues your intlius is just as inaccurate as your accusations against my father !
Palabra.
Este guey se ve un poco felonio. Que no?
Tal vez. Pero yo diría más asno mudo de Penal.
Слово , Хондо ! ! !
It’s important to not lose sight of the ball on this one. The guy was called out for being a phoney POW.
Even if he served and earned a CIB and Purple heart he is still a liar.
For his supporters have him send his paperwork in. He can go from being a Poser to an Embellisher. The other end of the turd but still a piece of shit.
Silly old fuck, he looks like he went thru menopause without any drugs! He’s about one year older than me. I hope I don’t look as old as he does!
Chucky……for what it’s worth, no 11B wears anything above a CIB! You give me a real case of the ass! When you wear that CIB. You never served, let along earned it!
You need to step up, stop wearing it and admit your a lying douchbag!
No offense intended to douchbags!
His serial #is RA 138 45 837…..173 airborne then assigned to 101 airborne in Vietnam…..then 82 airborne at Ft Bragg when he returned.
Well, thank you, Lisa, but that is NOT a military serial number from the Vietnam period.
I actually do know what I’m talking about because I have my serial number burned into my brain. So do several million other vets from that period of history. Mine was issued to me when I signed up and went to boot camp. I still remember my RTC company number, too, and where I went to boot.
Your old man can make up all the crap he wants to, but that is not a military serial number. It isn’t anything except baloney.
He’s lying to you and everyone else. Has been for decades.
Ask him where he burned his draft card.
Ex-PH2, that is a real Regular Army Serial Number. The “1” in front of his number means he volunteered and was not drafted. My relatives used those numbers before service numbers changed to SSN. Am only speaking about the US Army. I plead ignorance to what the US Navy used. That said, Jenkins was wrong in stating he was a Vietnam POW and dishonored those men by claiming that status. Hopefully, when Hondo gets his records thru the FOIA, we will find out what he did while in the US Army. We all definitely know he WAS NOT a POW. Would welcome comments from Jenkins and his children as to why he stated that and if he has admitted to others to include his children that he did not tell the truth.
“Jenkins was wrong in stating he was a Vietnam POW”
Indeed…He’s not in any registry I could find. That claim is the turd in the punchbowl regardless of any bonafide service.
Bingo. Was not a POW – period. The DPAA lists for Vietnam are both authoritative and comprehensive.
As another commenter noted, even if Jenkins served in Vietnam in those units people have claimed, that only moves him from the “poser” category to the “embellisher” category.
Both categories are LSoS (and if falsely claiming Vietnam POW, of a particularly detestable type). It’s just a matter of degree.
Army service numbers of the 60s had a 2 digit entry, then 3 digits followed by 3 digits, i.e:
12 345 678. I have no idea what his 3 digit, 2 digit, 3 digit number is about, unless it is a Social with one number in the last group missing.
Anyone here know when the Army went from ASN to SSAN for ID? I do not know
FC: the number is not demarcated correctly, but is consistent with being a RA serial number issued between 1961 and 1969. It should be shown as RA13 845 837, but whoever posted that probably didn’t know the older convention for writing Army serial numbers of the period.
Wikipedia says the Army discontinued issuing serial numbers on 1 July 1969. That’s Wikipedia, so caveat emptor. This particular article cites what would be definitive sources, but doesn’t link directly to them – so quick verification is problematic.
Ex-PH2,
Can you enlighten me? I’m looking at wiki and it says 13 is a geocode for Maryland
ans following that the codes 705 501 to 999 999 were given out from ’61-’69.
So, wouldn’t RA 13 845 837 be a number in that time frame? Service numbers were already gone when I went active in ’81, so I don’t know the formatting.
Here’s the link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_number_%28United_States_Army%29
RA-Regular Army also applies to Enlisted. Officers had an “O” in front of their Serial Numbers. Don’t know what the other Services used before SSN.
The service number for that era starts with B52.
Oh, yeah – I was a volunteer, too.
Navy serial number scheme was different than that used by the Army, Ex-PH2. IDC SARC is mostly correct (the geocode 13 applied to more than just MD) – see my comment below.
Amen, Hondo; as I posted above:
“Army service numbers of the 60s had a 2 digit entry, then 3 digits followed by 3 digits, i.e:
12 345 678. I have no idea what his 3 digit, 2 digit, 3 digit number is about, unless it is a Social with one number in the last group missing.”
Actually, Ex-PH2 – it is.
It appears to be consistent with being a post-World War II Army serial number issued to someone who enlisted in the Regular Army who enlisted from a particular geographical area between 1961 and 1969. The RA prefix indicates the individual was Regular Army vice USAR, mobilized ARNG on extended active duty, or AUS draftee. (Army draftees during Vietnam received serial numbers beginning with 5 or 6; ARNG or USAR received different series, used a different prefix, or both). The first 2 digits are a geographical code based on where recruited; the last 6 digits were the personal identifier.
That said, “consistent with” doesn’t necessarily imply “legit”. We’ll see soon enough if it’s legit or not – e.g., if it was issued at all, or if it was issued to someone named “Charles R. Jenkins”. The follow-up FOIA goes out in today’s mail.
OK, Hondo, I’ll accept that difference. But the rest of it annoys me, and I think you know why, and it’s not just because someone was a desk jockey and doesn’t think it was ‘good enough’.
Will be interesting to see what type of discharge he received when he got out.
Probably won’t be able to determine that, AnotherPat. Characterization of discharge is not among the information NPRC will release without the vet’s consent. On rare occasions it can be inferred from other info in the record (or is erroneously not redacted), but it’s not generally something you can determine from the reply to a FOIA request.
Not sure why the type of discharge is protected info. That information IMO should be public record as well – but it’s not.
Durn. Was hoping it might explain why his records are not being shared with Admin.
That might well be the case. But if so, NPRC almost certainly won’t disclose that fact.
We’re running that serial number through NPRC to see how it turns up. It will take a month or so.
To Charles Jenkins and those who support him:
Whether you served or not is not the issue. You lied about being a POW. That is disgusting. If you DID serve, you damned well known better, which just makes your lies more disturbing. IF you served, then you certainly should take the correction from a bunch of folks here who did serve honorably, many who know/are actual POW’s and Purple Heart awardees, and demand that you quit lying about your award of either. That is not a suggestion – it is a righteous demand.
If you did not serve at all, then quit lying about all of it. We do not deserve to hear it and your children need to start the recovery process.
You have an opportunity to correct your misdeeds now instead of leaving their discovery of the truth until after your death. That’s a good thing. Get with the program and tell the truth to them. Then get on with your life, without the lies.
chris jenkins says:February 16, 2016 at 8:39 pm
“Did it ever occur to ur stupid tail,mom and dad were married? Later separated then divorced,he moved away and his stuff just stayed at home.you guys are a disgrace to the military, hard to believe you are so stupid.”
Chris:
Your sister, Lisa, was kind enough to explain why your Mother has your Father’s Records. So now can you explain to us why your Father said he was a Vietnam POW? Isn’t that “stupid”?
Charles Jenkins, if you are reading this based on what you just post about your awards: Can you please explain here why you claimed to be a Vietnam POW for 3 years, so many months, so many days…when you know it is not true.
That part is not true, alto I was capture I was retaken by my batallon 3wks. later in the Mecon- Delta
Ok…so, since all information pertaining to Vietnam Veterans are now declassified, I’m sure you can share with us who captured you, when you were captured, who rescued you and why your name is not listed in the official DoD Database for all Vietnam POWs/MIAs. Remember: Declassified.
Meant to write “POW” instead of “Veterans”.
No part of it is true Charles. You were NEVER captured by anyone. I’m willing to defer judgement on the CIB and Purple Heart on a second records request. But you were NEVER captured and NEVER rescued. The list of ALL prisoners that were returned or escaped is readily available. YOUR NAME IS NOT ON THE LIST. You weren’t held for 3 years or even 3 minutes!
Explain why you’re name isn’t on the list! http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_acc_p_usa.pdf
Bullshit.
Prove It.
Didn’t Happen.
After Action reports would have FACTS on ANY American Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine missing from their unit for ANY length of time ESPECIALLY in time of War PARTICULARLY in a Combat Zone.
You’re a Lying Ass Bag Of SHIT.
Quit the masqurade.
You’re not fooling anybody.
/USAF/USAFR E-8 SMSgt
What did you do in the war Daddy
You haven’t said anything about what you did specifically, Charles. There was BS story about being a POW in which you have contradicted yourself.
You stated that you possess medals of some sort you can’t spell, but perhaps you can pronounce, which doesn’t mean you earned them.
You referenced a unit with notable members which doesn’t mean you did anything besides possibly occupying a space in time.
I don’t see where you have any solid base established to be acting like some sort of combat daddy to anyone here.
You are quoted in the above article, “I spent 3 years, 9 months and 27 days as a POW in Vietnam,”
So what is it, and even if it was just for 3 weeks, the US Government would have record of that 3 week captivity period.
Now then, I was wrong about the uniform in the picture posted in your daughters FB page, but as others have stated, we simply do not know who the individual is.
Is that near the Mekong Delta? I think you may need a HS level geography course.
Jenkins, you would have been in the records as a POW if you had been held for 24 hours. The records show that you were never captured. Why are you changing your story now?
if you had been there you would have known that it was not unuseal for a soldier to disapear for a period of time, weather in one of Mama-suns whore houses or on a long drunk or even desert. Some came back some never did and never will.
Well, Jenkins – we know you weren’t a POW. That would have been reported as your being MIA or known captured. DPAA would carry you on their lists as a MIA-accounted for. You’d also appear on the escapee or returned alive lists.
So, which of the other reasons you list is your excuse?
So you were drunk and in a whorehouse when you were pretending to be captured? Is that what your’e saying, Charles?
Because the truth is closing in….
I will be happy to carry on a conversation with anyone that is a Viet Nam vet (ONLY) If the show me that they are by words or pics.If you are a Viet-Nam vet espially Army air-bourn I would like to meet you
WTF is “Army air-bourn”?
If you dont know then you are not one I want to talk to
Really Chris?…according to my service record and graduation certificate, that would be Airborne.
That word should be readily apparent in your father’s documents.lol
..and for crying out loud Vietnam is one word.
In fairness, though Vietnam is the preferred spelling today, I believe I’ve seen documents of that era that used both “Viet Nam” and “Viet-nam”.
I’ve never seen “air-bourn” before, though. Not even on my certificate from the Benning School of Advanced Gravitational Studies.
Actually, Viet Nam is a proper form used by older vets. It was what was used by the Vietnamese, and based on their language with “Viet” meaning people, and “Nam” meaning South. People of the South– as in apparent relation to China.
Close to what I’ve seen, PG. Per the summary of Vietnam’s history given by Karnow at the beginning of his “Vietnam: A History”, about 200BC a Chinese warlord went south and founded “Nam Viet” – i.e., “Land of the Southern Viet” (referring to the Vietnamese people; name is Vietnamese language vice Chinese) – in what is now extreme southern China and modern Vietnam. He declared it independent of China.
For a while, the ruler paid tribute to China as a vassal state. But a couple of decades later, he quit doing that and set himself up as Emperor of Nam Viet in his own right.
Vietnam and China have been pretty constant enemies ever since.
Hmmm…I just learned something. Thanks
Charles Jenkins, I was an honorably serving paratrooper in the 101st in the early 60s and I don’t have a clue what air-bourn is. We who really did attend jump school, made 5 student jumps, and were required to learn how to spell AIRBORNE, before getting our Wings. Where did you attend Jump School, and what post was your first duty assignment at?
‘air-bourn’? Must be some seekrit stuff like Jason bourn, eh?
We’re not the one’s that left the barn door open.
Carry on a conversation with whomever you want. We all know that you were never a POW, and no one is going to buy it.
So, put your fingers in your ears and make your demands. We’ll know soon enough about everything once the POIA results show up.
I’ve tried to stay out of this food fight, but speaking as someone who was with the 173rd in ’71, it strikes me that, POW issue aside, there are some things that don’t match up:
The timeline from enlistment to going in country seems off. April to early August is less than five months. If you factor in Basic, Infantry AIT, Jump School, and 30 days leave, the time span should be more than six months.
The order of display of the jump wings and CIB sends up a red flag; it’s hard to imagine anybody who actually earned the awards doing that.
The shift from the 173rd to the 101st seems strange. The usual drill was for people to be assigned to a unit until DEROS. If you were wounded, for example, and it wasn’t too bad, you went back to your unit; if it was bad, you got a med evac home. The only time it was apparently common for people to move between units was late in the war when there was a lot of flux going on with the drawdown.
Perry as I recall basic was 8 wks ait 8wks. jump school at Benning 3wks. In 71 most of the troops were home.After the 69 Tet offences.The 173 leff Okinawa May the 5th. 1965. I flew into Tan-Son-Nhut Air force Base. I don’t expect you to know about Bien- Hoa but that was our home base at the time it was a rubber tree plantation.As far as why I was temp. with the 101st. I was a demo. expert and was setting a mine field around here fire base. For the record The 173rd went to Nam TDY and got a PCS.That meant year tour while others stayed longer waiting for replacement mostly sholdiers with critical MOS.
There might be a pony here in all the horseshit you wrote since I was in the 1/101st and 3/82nd in ’68. The problem is you seem to be illiterate at even the 1st grade level. Maybe tell your story again in short, simple sentences…punctuation would be nice.
I`m your huckleberry.
1/327/101 arrived in country 29JUL1965 and were assigned to An Khe. Now, that was way up in I-corps and you claim that your were taken POW and rescued by your BN clear down in the Mekong Delta in 4-corps?
Ain`t buying that. No way.
The 173rd was at Bien Hoa 36mi. south of Sigion we made several trips to the delta, as well as Pho By, Pla Cou and in the mountans where the Montiguar people lived
“Montiguar”…that would be Montagnard, Charles
I’m ignoring the efffed up spellings geographically speaking, but c’mon, the Montagnards are famous.
Oh, shit – it was Phu Bai, you moron, Phu Bai and Pleiku.
And while I love telling you this — Bien Hoe is 16 miles NORTHWEST of Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City — I begin to seriously doubt anything you have to say.
Sigion? Where is that? Is that anywhere on this planet?
Geez, Jeankins, you really are an illiterate SOB!
You can’t keep your stories straight. Bien Hoa was a sleepy little ville that the Seabees turned into a whorehouse in record time. If you’d been there, you’d know that.
Personally, I don’t care where you were or what you were doing.
Your story changes with the way the wind blows.
What point were you trying to make in reviving a dead thread?
Are you that desperate for attention?
I see no point, Jenkins, in your making even one more comment. When the FOIA is answered, that will suffice. In the meantime, go back to your corner.