Judge orders Police to Execute Duncan Socrates Lemp

| March 16, 2020

 

How many more Americans will we allow to be gunned down by an out of control Police State?  Maryland has become a shining example of why we were given the right to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.

Maryland man fatally shot by police while asleep in his bedroom

A Maryland man who was shot and killed by a police officer was asleep in his bedroom when police opened fire from outside his house, an attorney for the 21-year-old man’s family said on Friday. The man’s girlfriend was also wounded.

The Montgomery county police department said in a news release Duncan Socrates Lemp “confronted” police and was shot by one of the officers early on Thursday.

But Rene Sandler, an attorney for Lemp’s relatives, said an eyewitness gave a “completely contrary” account of the shooting. She said police could have “absolutely no justification” for shooting Lemp based on what she has heard about the circumstances.

The warrant police obtained to search the Potomac home Lemp shared with his parents and 19-year-old brother does not mention any “imminent threat” to law enforcement or the public, Lemp’s relatives said in a statement released by their lawyers. Nobody in the house that morning had a criminal record, the statement added.

“Any attempt by the police to shift responsibility on to Duncan or his family, who were sleeping when the police fired shots into their home, is not supported by the facts,” the statement says.

A police department spokesman did not immediately respond to the statements by the family or their lawyer.

The department’s news release said tactical unit members were serving a “high-risk” search warrant around 4.30am when one officer fatally shot Lemp. Police detectives recovered three rifles and two handguns from the home. Lemp was prohibited from possessing firearms, police said.

“Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lemp, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms,” the release said, without elaborating.

Sandler said the family believes police fired gunshots, not a flashbang or other projectile, from outside the home, including through Lemp’s bedroom window, while he and his girlfriend were sleeping. Nobody in the home heard any warnings or commands before police opened fire, she said.

“There is no warrant or other justification that would ever allow for that unless there is an imminent threat, which there was not,” Sandler said.

The police release said the “facts and circumstances of the encounter” were still under investigation. Prosecutors from neighboring Howard county will review the evidence at the conclusion of the investigation.

Lemp was Caucasian, according to Sandler. She did not know the race of the unidentified officer involved because she said the officers were wearing masks. The officer was placed on administrative leave, a standard procedure after police shootings.

Lemp worked as a software developer and was trying to raise money for a startup company, according to friends and co-workers.

“He was a talented, smart guy. Super nice. Didn’t deserve to get shot,” said Samuel Reid, whose Canadian software company employed Lemp as an independent contractor.

Tsolmondorj Natsagdorj, 24, of Fairfax, Virginia, said he met Lemp in 2016 and bonded with him over their shared interest in cryptocurrency. They also talked about politics. He described Lemp as a libertarian who frequented the 4chan and Reddit message boards, sites popular with internet trolls.

“Duncan was a young guy with a bright future as an entrepreneur,” Natsagdorj said. “He was working on things to change the world.”

On social media accounts that friends said belonged to him, Lemp’s username was “YungQuant”. On an internet forum called “My Militia”, someone who identified himself as Duncan Lemp, of Potomac, and posted under the username “yungquant” said he was “an active III%’r and looking for local members & recruits”.

That was an apparent reference to the Three Percenters, a wing of the militia movement. The group’s logo, the Roman numeral III, has become popular with anti-government extremists, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

On his Instagram account, Lemp recently posted a photograph that depicted two people holding up rifles and included the term “boogaloo”, slang used by militia members and other extremists to describe a future civil war in the US.

Friends said they never heard Lemp espouse any anti-government rhetoric. Sandler said Lemp was not a part of any anti-government or militia-type group.

“He was pro-America and supported wholeheartedly all the protections of the constitution,” she said.

Sandler said Lemp’s family was traumatized. Their statement said they intended to “hold each and every person responsible for his death”.

“We believe that the body camera footage and other forensic evidence from this event will support what Duncan’s family already knows, that he was murdered,” the statement said.

Any Judge who signs a Warrant for Police to crash through my front door at 04:30 am has effectively signed my Death Warrant.  It will not matter to me if they crash through the door screaming Police, FBI, Avon Lady or Jesus Christ.  I will do my very best to protect my home and anyone in it.

Maryland is showing what happens when the Government is allowed to spin out of control.  It is reported that no person in that house had a criminal record.  They were all asleep at the time of entry. No person in that house was in imminent danger.  I can only speculate as to the reason Duncan Lemp was not supposed to have access to weapons.

We will find out what that reason is in time.  I will state now for the record, whatever it was, it was not severe enough for a Judge to Order His Execution.  An overzealous Police Department executed this man and it was sanctioned by a Judge who is complicit in his murder.

If a group of criminals charge through the door of your business or home and one of them shoots you dead,  they are all charged with murder.   All of those involved with the execution of  Duncan Lemp should be charged with murder…Starting with the Judge that ordered his execution.

Google “Duncan Lemp” and read the plethora of titles used to report this.  I read his FaceBook pages, LinkedIn, etc.   I can find nothing that justifies his execution.  I find all kinds of spin to dehumanize this man.

Too many times this pattern of abuse has been played out in our Nation.  Never is the Judge held accountable.  Think about that.  A Lawyer who was given a robe to ensure we are treated in a fair and balanced manner can order your execution in the dark of night.  You have no opportunity to object, very little opportunity to defend yourself and the Judge goes about his life with no accountability for having murdered you.  Those who participated in your murder will be protected by the government.  They will point guns at those who object and use the media to de-humanize anyone that will not comply.

This case is one of the main reasons why I Will Not Comply with any further restrictions placed upon my Second Amendment Right to protect myself.

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Mustang Major

Maryland police departments have a long history of shooting first and asking questions later. Shooting household pets is common also.

Potomac isn’t exactly a slum filled with residents with frequent law enforcement encounters. Most common crime in Potomac is is cheating on income taxes and speeding on River Road in a Range Rover.

Cameron K.

This will not end well. That judge better watch his back.

Thunderstixx

Don’t say that, it brings unwanted attention to the site.
Please, we know that you aren’t serious, but others won’t.

Cameron K.

Well sorry, but if this keeps up, it very well could end up being a reality and I don’t like that one bit. No different to how sexual assault allegations are being mishandled. Because in the end, everyone ends up paying. Now the last part may or may not be true (most likely not), but I am very serious about the first part. This is already bringing bad press for everyone involved minus the victim. I just hope this causes people to realize that the government needs to have screws put into it.

11B-Mailclerk

When reading thr above, I speculated that one officer had a negligent discharge, and that flushed others into firing.

I have seen this on a range, where several shooters preparing to fire smallbore target pistols “bullseye” style, get flushed by another shooter unexpectedly firing a big blackpowder revolver.

BOOOM!bapbap

“What the..(cough)”

“Fire in the hole, next time, maybe?”

“(cough) Anyone got clean shorts?”

Funny at the time. However, some folks I know who have been in more “real” circumstances have said “yup”.

SFC D

See my post below. That was exactly what a happened, a negligent discharged followed by a young man being shot 22 times.

A Proud Infidel®™

May everyone involved in that get held accountable but alas, Government in that locale is unbelievably corrupt!

Ret_25X

“Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lemp, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms,” the release said, without elaborating.

this is the money quote!

What this tells us is that someone SWATted him.

I’m betting an activist saw his posts, doxxed him, and called in the SWAT. They knew the Judge and Cops would be too stupid to take a breath and ask what should always be question #1; “what is the motive here?”

Welcome to the wonderful world of the “woke” left; where you are guilty until executed.

Ret_25X

Also, what kind of “detective work” is being done with an armed raid at 0430?

No, the “complaint” was accepted at face value.

One more point…am I the only one to notice that these red flag raids never occur in high crime areas, only in middle class suburbia?

Tim

Not only that says there was no threat to law enforcement or the public. So why so much force to execute the warrant and why 430 in the morning. It was totally uncalled for. Also believe that who ever in the public that made this claim should also be held responsible for his murder because that’s what it was flat out

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

What do you want to bet that the gunz recovered by the po-po were “police plants” that will quickly disappear (be destroyed) in the “evidence” room?

Slow Joe

Whoa, slow down.
Now you are going into the conspiracy realm.

One thing is to get SWATted by an evil activist, and another is that the police, on their own, planned and planted the shootout.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Ret_25X

by extraordinary claims, you mean like, the one where the sleeping man “confronted” the police?

In the USA, the greater the assertion, the less evidence asked or required.

This whole case is one gigantic CF.

Slow Joe

No. The extraordinary claim is the police did all this on their own, and planted evidence.

Ret_25X

sorry…the extraordinary claim being made is this: “The Montgomery county police department said in a news release Duncan Socrates Lemp “confronted” police and was shot by one of the officers early on Thursday.”

Discussion as to the possible motives, methods, reasons, or even responsibility is not an assertion, but a discussion of the situation’s dynamics.

Again, only one assertion has been made, with considerable conjecture about the assertion.

Sorry to have thrown that fast ball right down the middle and right past you like that. Next time I’ll set you up better.

SSG Kane

What do we have that says he was sleeping? Second hand comments from the family’s attorney who spoke with an “eye witness”?

While I agree that this didn’t warrant a before dawn no knock raid, let us remember that everyone has an agenda. The attorney acting as the family spokesperson has one, the family has one, the police have one, hell I have one.

Ret_25X

no, based on the family’s statements. The witness list here contains only the cops and the family.

Obviously, the testimony of both is important, but if it is sustained as fact that he was shot from outside the house, it seems improbable to me that the family is mistaken about the sequence of events.

SSG Kane

Right, but none of that has been established yet. Which is my agenda.

How about we wait and see what happened before we spin up another Trayvon Martin conformational bias type event?

Ret_25X

in the Martin case, we all knew the media spin was BS on day one.

WRT to this case, it will be much the same.

That said, the core problem in this case is the concept of due process…which cannot happen when the cops shoot the alleged perp before arrest.

Police killings are a bad thing precisely because the person killed has no recourse.

This does not mean that police killing people is always bad. But…and this is important…the police have proven they cannot be trusted across all jurisdictions and all topics.

Ergo, no reason to trust their story…which is only right in the first place as the accused has no obligation to prove a damn thing. It is the government that must prove a case here…this time two cases; first, that this individual was indeed a immediate existential threat to others; two, that the only way to deal with him was deadly force.

Having sat on many juries, there is no chance the government can prove this case to free people. Minions who slavishly lick the ass of the state–maybe–but free men, no.

SFC D

In the Trayvon Martin case, two dumbfucks ran into each other in the middle of the night and they both lost.

timactual

“the police have proven they cannot be trusted across all jurisdictions and all topics.”

I am all in favor of the presumption of innocence, but these days the police are making it more difficult. Particularly since they seem to demand something they obviously don’t extend to us citizens.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

Nah. No conspiracy…….yet.
Just theorizing that the po-po realizing that they screwed the pooch royally, and brought up and planting some gunz set aside for the purpose of them saying, “LOOK! LOOK! SEE! EVIL GUNZ!” All to absolve themselves. It would be interesting to do a forensics check on those gunz serial numbers to see if the paper trail can be followed to……..who? Mr Lemp (RIP)? Or (poof!) thin air (with high suspicions of being PD Plants).

Cowpill

My question is what was the “confrontation”? A flash light shining through a window and the victim sitting up to see what the hell is going on? We have seen videos of officers shoot people through their front doors for either seeing a weapon or thinking they saw a weapon. This guy was targeted, and the police was the implement.

MI Ranger

So I’m looking through some of the different stories on this:
The Local Police showed a Tavor, and two AR-15 clones (one a PSA DIY job), a Glock, and a Glock clone. All the shots of Mr. Lemp from social media show him with an AR-15 variant, but not any of those recovered. He very well could have been playing Airsoft with his buddies, or been on a hunting trip.
If I lived in Maryland I would definitely be worried about these Red Flag laws that claim he was not allowed to have guns.

timactual

Try googling some variation of “police officer fakes evidence”.

Astroturf

This is what happens with Red Flag laws. Anyone can call in on anyone and have them murdered knowing the Judge and Police never check into things very good, they just act as they say “Obeying Orders”.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

Ahhhh……the NAZI defense.

Bill R.

Yes, but if no person in that house had any kind of criminal record, why was he prohibited from owning firearms and were they HIS firearms or were they found in a different part of the house?

rgr1480

Restraining order?

Hack Stone

Against whom? If there indeed was a restraining order, the Police spokesperson would be sure to let the public know. Hack has not been over to the Maryland Case Judicial Search today, but when he gets home from selling Red Hat Software Door To Door in Bethesda tonight, he will plug in the name of the young man and see what, if anything, comes up.

Hack Stone

One entry in the Maryland Case Judiciary Search, a $225 fine last year for doing 85 in 55 MPH zone. Don’t see how that would prohibit him from possessing a firearm.

11B-Mailclerk

If someone is using hemp products under state laws, the federal ones still say “no guns”. There is a tickbox for that on the ATF form.

Falsifying evidence is a misdemeanor in MD, correct?

Slow Joe

“The Montgomery county police department said in a news release Duncan Socrates Lemp “confronted” police and was shot by one of the officers early on Thursday.”

Well. He was no Socrates.

Hate_me

Socrates was executed by the state, largely for willful refusal to kowtow to society’s inane ideals.

The name seems appropriate, to me.

Ret_25X

If so, how can this be true?

“Sandler said the family believes police fired gunshots, not a flashbang or other projectile, from outside the home, including through Lemp’s bedroom window, while he and his girlfriend were sleeping. Nobody in the home heard any warnings or commands before police opened fire, she said.”

Now, the facts of the case will be easy to ascertain, and eyewitness testimony indicates that the man was asleep.

I have never, not once, been “confronted” by a sleeping person.

Not only that, but how, exactly, did this person “confront” the police if he was inside the house in his bed and they were outside?

No “confrontation” occurred except that the police killed a man through a window who was in his bed being a threat to no one.

It will surprise me to no end if we do not eventually find out that not only did the police shoot this guy with no notice or warning, but that this was the tactical plan all along.

Because, this guy was sooooooooooo dangerous.

I don’t have a lot of patience with the “all cops are evil” crowd, but it would help if cops would not act in ways that support such narratives.

Sparks

Thank you, Brother! Just how does a man in bed…asleep, confront anyone outside his home???

Why with no bullhorn warnings or calls to his home or cell numbers did they decide to start firing into the house? What if they had killed the girlfriend or others if they had been there. Since they could not have known for sure who and how many were in the residence. I mean, “oops, we made a mistake and a jittery fingered FNG fired too soon” just doesn’t cut it.

The Police Officers in my town are probably the best I have ever seen and I thank each one whenever we meet. But this mess in Maryland is not going to get out of hand, it already is way out of hand.

These laws, which allow warrants written in ambiguity, based on little verified information and few if any facts have now caused the death of a citizen. Without due process nor any of his rights preserved. That is what I call a police state.

I am not an extremist in any way, but Dave Hardin said it best above. If anyone barges through my door in the middle of the night shouting anything, they should be prepared to defend themselves. I will not stand numb like a sheep and see my wife killed and not defend her or myself.

This stuff is just wrong on so many levels. I don’t know what the end of this will be but I hope it goes to a high enough court to have these laws stricken.

Ret_25X

there is a miserable little asshat Bernie bot somewhere laughing and back slapping themselves over this.

Just like they did in 1922 in the Ukraine…

and 1938 in Germany…

and 1955 in China…

and 1960 in Cuba…

and 1978 in Cambodia…

and 1984 in Nicaragua…

too timid to confront you face to face, they hide behind their magic woke shield and use the cops to get rid of their fellow citizens because they do things like eat burgers, smoke, fish, hunt, let their kids play outside, put up Christmas lights, go to church, etc.

So when these disgusting cretins are not committing fraud with a faux hate crime (Hi Jussie!), they are getting their fellow citizens killed because “woke”.

26Limabeans

No different than a drive by shooting.

Ex-PH2

This is what happens when a peaceful slice of country gets turned into a suburban pisshole full of dimwitted idjits who are afraid of their own shadows.

It used to be that you could get invited to go out with the Potomac Hunt when they were cubbing (training the new hounds for the fall hunts) in July, and skylark over fences for miles. It was a gas and a half to do that. Pretty country, and good company, and a lot of fun.

Now it’s a suburban pisshole. I have a good deal of sympathy for this family, and see zero excuses for what these cops did. I hope they sue the pants off this judge and the po-po over it.

And here’s this unanswered question: what if they’d gotten the wrong address and attacked a different house that had nothing to do with Lemp?

Geezo Pete, what’s next? (Don’t answer that yet.)

MI Ranger

So I am a bit confused. I seem to recall reading the Maryland “Red Flag” requirements and it stated you had to be either a blood relative once removed or living with the individual, or a roommate. Since he lived with his parents, that kind of nulls the other blood relative line. This had to be an assassination if they only wounded the girlfriend and she was asleep with him.
Did SWAT have thermal scopes?

Ret_25X

even if they did, thermal sights can not see through glass.

Like any sight, it is collecting reflected spectrum and displaying it for you. Glass is the ultimate reflector/refractor

MI Ranger

So all those Hollywood movies are wrong?!!!
Wow, now I am going to have to rethink my tactical game. Now I suppose you are going to tell me they can’t see through cinderblocks or masonry either!

Ret_25X

alas, no–infrared works light the rest of the spectrum….

The Other Whitey

Somebody is not telling the truth here. Maybe it’s the Lemp family, but that seems doubtful given the amount of information on young Duncan that’s available to the public and contradictory to the official line, especially in light of the lack of transparency from the authorities. Maryland’s justice system are the ones acting like they have something to hide. This reeks of a bad shoot. My Spidey Sense is tingling regarding “red flag” laws. His alleged firearm prohibition seems quite suspect, and he doesn’t appear to have ever been in court. I’m thinking it’s likely that somebody posted some crap under a user handle similar to his, likely with nefarious intent. Somebody, possibly—though not necessarily—the same asshole, then cried to the Powers That Be, who then red-flagged him based on the dubious complaint. Judge Dickhead then authorizes a no-knock with deadly force, because “dangerous” and “guns.” Throughout this process, Duncan Lemp has no idea that he’s even been accused of anything, much less that some of the very same cops we are frequently told are “the only ones trained and responsible enough” to have AR-15-pattern rifles, are about to mag-dump him and anyone in his general vicinity from outside the house in the dead of night. Some real Kafka shit. If I have this right, then there was never even lip service paid to Due Process. If I have this right, he was “SWATted,” the responsible authorities were disturbingly trigger-happy and bought it without a second look. I think they know this, and at the most, they’ll let the shooter take the heat, while the chain of command who told him to do it go on their merry way until they get another to turn some unsuspecting citizen’s home into the Punisher’s origin story. And one of these days, it will get a whole lot worse for all concerned, unless something is done about it soon. There needs to be full transparency in this process. No “privilege” or “discretion” of any kind. Unless something incredibly and indisputably exculpatory pops up, then there’s a whole list of people including the judge,… Read more »

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Don’t worry they’re going to investigate themselves and come up empty. And every bootlicking cocksucker statist will applaud and grovel before their oppressors as they do each and every day…they’ll put out their little fucking blue lights and wave that abomination of a flag with the blue line on the American flag as proof of their worship of their oppressors.

At the end of the day there is a reason that no one has ever written a song called fuck the fire department…..

Ret_25X

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

It is impossible for any organization with the power of deadly force to govern themselves.

Police oversight in the US has been a self licking ice cream cone for so long most people no longer notice

Public Choice Theory is a good place to start a study of public governance.

https://www.learnliberty.org/videos/behavioral-economics-ep-5-what-you-need-to-know-about-public-choice/

Tim

They are already saying they don’t know if there is any body cam footage of the raid. So I say it’s already disappeared. Or of course the cameras malfunctioned. So they will all get away with murder. Cause that’s what it was flat out

5th/77th FA

Let’s see a show of hands of all those that think the popo or the judge will be charged with anything. Yeah, me neither.

If you don’t have enough people in the house to stand a rotating watch, better get yourself a good, light sleeping dog.

The doxxing/swatting going on these days is another emphasis to not using your name on an innerweb comment board.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

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Slow Joe

Regardless of if Lemp resisted the police or not, there was no reason for the police to raid his house at 0430 in the morning.

11B-Mailclerk

There is a reason:

Fear

Roh-Dog

Lick the boot, Citizen. Lick. The. Boot.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

If you haven’t read “The Gulag Archipelago” now would be a good time to do so, Solzhenitsyn sums it up rather nicely…..

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Veritas Omnia Vincit

You can die on your feet or live on your knees, a rough choice indeed but one those who yearn to be free have made for thousands of years.

Not all of us make good slaves, some of us must be put down for we will not comply.

Roh-Dog

The Ministry of Love has been notified.
Stay where you are to be collected and reprogrammed.

Hack Stone

The Montgomery County Police showed a bit more restraint 5 1/2 years ago when they knocked on the door of a guy in Bethesda who was making online threats to “go medieval” on a few veterans who had the audacity to ask Phil Monkress about his service as a Navy SEAL.

AW1Ed

Ahh, the PDRofMD. Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along.

SFC D
Thunderstixx

Yep, get a dog and keep them right by your side.
If nothing else they will wake you up when they hear noises outside so you can be prepared.
If the cops went in without announcing, it was a complete set up and the judge is completely at fault as well as the cops that actually participate in that.
Being a cop is a sacred honor and accepting Unconstitutional orders should be a crime in itself…

Honor and Courage

Pop, pop bang, bang stop or I will shoot!!!!! This is crazy! Law enforcement officer with out training are just as deadly as criminals. You only shoot when you have a treat target! Sleeping is not a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy

gitarcarver

Legislatures should eliminate the so called “Police Bill of Rights” that give police more “rights” than the common citizen, especially when it comes to incidents like this.

Secondly, Lemp was obviously a dangerous person. After all, he had a record for one driving offense. /sarc

Third, why was Lemp not allowed to have a weapon? Police are not saying.

A subsequent Montgomery County PD statement shows the 5 weapons found in the home. http://www.mymcpnews.com/2020/03/13/detectives-investigate-officer-involved-shooting-in-potomac-additional-information-released/

Fourth, how is a guy shot from outside the home in his bedroom “confronting” the police? (Similar question: where was he shot? If the body was in the bed, that means he was shot while sleeping as the family claims. If not….)

Nothing in this case makes sense. While it won’t bring Lemp back, legislators have to change the laws. If there is an affidavit or a warrant, disclose the information instead of waiting 30 days for the warrant (MD law) or years in the case of “active investigations.”

Until police and government act on their promises of “transparency,” people will always remain skeptical and turn against them.

Ret_25X

until the middle class starts acting like the wealthy and the poor nothing will change.

Until the middle class starts destroying towns, police stations, malls, zoos, hair salons, shoe stores…nothing will change.

The working middle class in the USA is the one group everyone can abuse without fear–regardless of the race of the working middle class person.

It is long past time for the working middle class to do more than vote for outsiders…it’s time to play the same game the grievance hustlers have played for 75 years…riots and no spending on retail at all. A total shutting of the middle class wallet.

Look at France…a year of riots every weekend and they finally have the attention of the government. It may not take a year here, but 6 months of Saturday riots and shut wallets will certainly get someone’s attention.

Bim

I bet the police are thanking God the guy was white, otherwise there might be a real problem with the civilians. A thorough investigation leading to the conviction of some rookie might even have be warranted. /s

SFC D

I’m not a cop, I don’t play one on TV, and I’ve never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. But if you’re going to arrest someone on a weapons charge, wouldn’t it make sense to make the arrest somewhere besides where the weapons are? Is that overly simplistic? Nab the guy walking to his car after work, reduce the risk to both officers and the alleged criminal.

Fyrfighter

I don’t know SFC D, the same approach worked well in Waco didn’t it??

Ooh wait…

Ret_25X

and Ruby Ridge…

timactual

But it ain’t nearly as much fun. And, to misquote Madeleine Albright’s (in)famous quote—

“What’s the point of having this superb SWAT team that you’re always talking about if we can’t use it”

LTC F

The important thing is that all the LEOs went home safely.

Synloy un

Re officer is saying he thought he saw a coronavires.through the bedroom window.a clear.case.of self defense.who can blame him for shooting out of fear for his life

Cowpill

I left New Mexico for Virginia to get away from leftist only to find I am in the middle of a full communist conversion. I am done running. I to will not follow any laws that infringe the second amendment or any amendment written into the constitution.

Bill Rights

He was a good boy. He didn’t nuffin’!

You all figured out the whole damn thing with a couple of paragraphs of unsubstantiated statements.

timactual

Which unsubstantiated statements, the police or the citizens?

UpNorth

According to the AP(I know, an organization not known for their ability to sort facts from fiction), Lemp “was prohibited from owning firearms until the age of 30, due to his juvenile criminal history”. Not sure what Maryland’s laws are concerning that so I won’t comment on it.
Sounds like Lemp’s girlfriend may have been one of the informants, for whatever reasons she may have had. “When they approached Lemp’s bedroom, a second person inside the room with Lemp warned them that the suspect had set a “booby trap intended to detonate a shotgun shell at the direction of anyone entering through the exterior door into Lemp’s bedroom,” according to police”. “The witness also told officers that the suspect slept with a rifle every night, WUSA reported”.
“Contrary to some information reported to the media, the same occupant also indicated that Lemp was out of the bed and standing directly in front of the interior bedroom door at the time the officers made entry into the bedroom”. “Lemp, who was allegedly armed with a rifle, refused to show his hands or get onto the ground, according to police.
All this from DefenseMaven. Not saying they’re not credible or they are, just saying this is also what’s being reported about this incident. This may even be the “other side” of the story.