Hearing on gun bills expected to draw large crowd
If a 15 year old comes into my house, goes into my bedroom closet, takes a closed container, removes a gun from it, loads the gun and then shots himself … I am supposed to be charged with a crime because his death was preventable if I had locked the case? YHGTBFSM
The safe storage proposal was drafted in response to the death of 15-year-old Ethan Song, who accidentally shot himself in the head with a handgun owned by his friend’s father in their hometown of Guilford in January 2018.
The friend’s father had kept his three guns secured with gun locks in a plastic container in his bedroom closet, but the keys to the locks and ammunition also were in the container, police said. Prosecutors said they could not charge the friend’s father under the state’s existing safe gun storage law, because it requires only loaded guns to be safely stored and there was no evidence the guns were stored loaded.Gun control advocates including Ethan’s mother, Kristin Song, said the new bill, called “Ethan’s Law,” would save lives by requiring all guns — loaded or unloaded — to be safely stored. Violating the law would be a felony carrying a prison sentence of one to five years.
“Ethan’s death was completely preventable, if only the father had securely stored his guns,” Kristin Song wrote in an email to The Associated Press. “That’s why I’m fighting to pass ‘Ethan’s Law,’ to strengthen Connecticut’s safe storage requirements.”
Of course they throw in some goofy nonsense as bait to ridicule gun rights supporters as well.
Another one of the most talked-about bills would require people who are openly carrying firearms to produce their gun permits if their firearms are visible and if police request them. Current law requires people to produce their gun permits for police, but only if police have a “reasonable suspicion of a crime” — a requirement that would be eliminated in the new bill.
The clowns that want to parade up and down Main Street while carrying their Scary Black Guns make it hard for the rest of us to have nice things. I have no issue producing an ID to any LEO at any time. I am always armed, I avoid going to places where I can not be armed. I stay out of states that make it impossible for me to defend myself and others.
I do not walk the street with a .338 Lapua Magnum…but if I did, I would expect to be stopped and asked a few questions.
Source: Hearing on gun bills expected to draw large crowd
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Sure, evil guns just jump up and do things… anyone even remotely connected should pay for three generations hence, gun controllers feel.
Just read a “gun confiscation zealot” was ejected from the Connecticut Senate hearing after she was spotted typing a text “If I had a gun, I’d blow away Sampson and a large group of NRA”. Senator Sampson (R) was speaking at the time. He describes himself as a Constitutional conservative and is an NRA “Defender of Freedom Award” recipient.
Perhaps legislation is needed requiring twitter users to require background checks and a permit before opening an account.
“Ethan’s death was completely preventable, if only the father had taught his son right from wrong”.” That’s a more accurate statement.
Ethan was a victim. A victim of bad parenting and his own stupidity.
Or if either his father OR his mother had bothered to tell him, “Hey, guns aren’t toys – they can kill. Don’t ever freaking play with them.”
But hey: it’s Connecticut. “Teh stoopid” is strong in that place.
There is something furtive and producing external disruptive vibrations in the cosmos about people who have/own/carry guns. As long as there is this disruption in the cosmos, the nubs in the madding crowds will sense the vibes, and be disturbed.
Hence, inflicting more gunsarebadlaws on the public may blunt the force of the disturbance in the cosmos, and such laws will be passed, heedlessly, until the volume of paperwork and disturbed electrons provides a “safe space” for the nubs.
Well said !!
IMO, an argument could be made, that guns in my house, with all doors and windows closed and locked, were in a closed and locked container.
This is another Stupid Law that they are not going to enforce. How are they going to enforce it? Block searches? Gee, need a warrant to search someones house. Oh Wait, screw that Fourth Amendment! We got rid of that, right?
We have that here in the DPRM, it makes all the Nervous Nancies feel all warm and snuggly. Maybe if Ethan had been taught proper firearm safety he wouldn’t have been screwing around with somone elses property.
It must have been an accident because why would he put a loaded gun to his head? Maybe to kill himself? But, tough to collect life insurance on a suicide, not impossible, just more paper work.
Simple. When someone dies, they blame the person robbed of the weapon, presume him guilty, and demand he prove himself innocent.
And then make an example of him to discourage defying their demands that folks disarm and stop opposing Progressive leaders, who of course know what is best.
Simple.
Again, I’m wid y’all. YGTBFSM. In all the decades I have owned firearms and had kids around said firearms, I have yet to have a firearm self discharge to harm anyone, nor have I had my kids or any other kid cause themselves harm.
I feel a little sorry for Ethan in that he was not properly raised to respect other people’s property and to have any home training.
Kristen Song, you have no one to blame for Ethan’s death but yourself. Is it your guilt over your failure to do proper parenting that is causing you to push Ethan’s Law?
Therein lies the problem. Rather than tell the parent(s) the blame is theirs to accept, some elected official pandering to the anti-gun crowd files a bill. Anticipate all of the other elected panderers supporting it. Someone needs to attend the hearing and lay blame where it belongs.
“If only they had been stored safely.”
I dunno lady…maybe teach your son to stay out of people’s fucking closets…..
Don’t mess with stuff that ain’t yours.
A simple rule which, if followed, would have prevented the kid’s death. Teach your kids to respect private property, and all kinds of trouble will be avoided.
Why don’t they try to repeal Darwin’s Law while they’re at it?
They firmly believe that if they can just get enough votes they can change the laws of Physics.
“Captain … ye canna change the laws of physics!” – Montgomery Scott
Dave, if you walked around with a .338 Lapua Magnum, you’d probably be pestered by cops wanting to borrow it to see how it shoots…
Absolutely ~~~~
The kid would still be alive if his parents had taught him to keep his hands off other people’s stuff.
If only there was a law that made it illegal to take other people’s stuff…
But there IS a law that makes it illegal to take other people’s stu…..OH…I get it.
Yet another “reactive” law that does nothing to stop anything.
BUT,but,but it makes snowflake liberals just FEEL SO GOOD about themselves…
This moronic teen committed suicide. The parents just refuse to admit reality.
Yet, all of society has to bear the burden of poor parenting. Sound familiar?
Yup. The go to response of progs.
Where was Ethan’s “friend”, the gunowner’s son during all this? Hard to believe he had no part in this.
I knew it, click bait. What happened to the Gun Wenches?
Sheesh….Some People…
“Anti-Gun Activist Tossed from Conn. Legislature for Threatening Lawmakers, NRA”
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/anti-gun-activist-tossed-from-conn-legislature-for-threatening-lawmakers-nra/
“An unidentified gun-control activist was expelled from a hearing on the subject at the Connecticut state capitol on Monday, after she threatened a pro-Second Amendment state lawmaker and NRA officials in a text message spotted by fellow attendees.”
“If I had a gun, I’d blow away Sampson and a large group of NRA,” the draft text message reads in a photo tweeted by a local reporter. The woman was presumably referring to Connecticut state senator Rob Sampson, a pro-gun-rights Republican who once earned the NRA’s Defender of Freedom Award.”
“The woman reportedly drafted the text during a hearing before the state’s Joint Committee on the Judiciary committee, in which activists on both sides of the issue were set to discuss pending legislation that would tighten state laws governing the home storage of guns.”
villagemissinganidiot
In a sane and just world, that damnfool would be investigated by local LE for communicating a threat. And possibly by Federal LE as well for using telecommunications to communicate same.
Then again, this happened in Connecticut – so don’t hold your breath. See my comment above about “teh stoopid” being strong in that place.
Your speech is violence. Their violence is speech.
Coming to a riot near you, Comrade.
COMRADE, you have made a statement that is incongruent with the approved liberal Groupthink. If you are in a blue state, you need to REPORT AT ONCE to your nearest camp for reeducation!!!
I’m upset I didn’t drag my carcass into the rotting jewel of Hartford today. I missed all the fireworks.
It’s of no use to logic with these people anymore.
The CGA is pushing this guy, my guns and my tax dollars away.
Have fun without me, f**kers!
timactual:
Info on Ethan’s “friend”:
“Juvenile Charged With Manslaughter In Guilford Teen Ethan Song’s Death”:
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-ethan-song-juvenile-arrest-20181126-story.html
“An unidentified juvenile was charged Monday with second-degree manslaughter in the accidental shooting death of Guilford teen Ethan Song, days after investigators announced they concluded that Song fired the fatal shot himself, police said….”
“Markle’s son, a juvenile, was the only other person in the home when Song was shot. Guilford police on Monday didn’t identify the juvenile arrested. The case will be referred to juvenile court in Waterbury, they said….”
“Investigators haven’t describe the circumstances of how Song shot himself. Platt did say last week that it wasn’t the first time the teenagers had played with the gun, and that they had put it back without anyone noticing in the past.”
“Police on Monday said the juvenile was also charged in connection to the previous incident, which they did not describe. He was charged with first-degree reckless endangerment for the previous case.”
“The report also refers to previous times the boys had accessed the guns.”
“An exhaustive review has determined that during the months prior to Jan. 31, 2018, juveniles had gained access to the adult male’s weapons and played with them on several occasions,” Platt said. “It appears that the weapons were returned to their original location after each access and there is no evidence that the gun owner knew that the guns had been retrieved by the juveniles. Rather, it appears that there was a deliberate attempt by the juveniles to withhold this information from the gun owner.”
If guns kill then why not charge the gun as well?
If guns kill people then how in hell does anyone make it out of a Gun Show, Bass Pro Shops or Cabela’s outlet alive? Just askin’ for a friend…
If the owner’s entire collection was valuable enough, I’m certain that the DA would have filed charges against the guns. That’s why they have asset forfeiture laws, right?
Baited with boobs.
Clicks post and no boobs.
*calling senator*
TAH WW HQ stands ready to ignore your complaint. Any additional complaints on the issue will also be ignored, until it is summarily disapproved. TAH regrets this decision and and will revisit the matter in 90 days for further disapproval. The caring professional staff at TAH WW HQ wishes you a TAH day!
*obligatory long winded novel response nobody will fully read*
Witness me!
Time to pass the hat and buy FatCircles a sense of humor.
Take a chunk out of my FGS winnings, I’m feeling generous. He’s lucky it didn’t go to committee. “hahahaha…NO; hahahaha…NO; hahaha NO. All those in favor…NO”
We still lub the boy tho. He’ll do better when he gets his hour of sleep back.
“Ethan’s death was completely preventable…”
That’s the only thing the mother got right. If she had taught her son to respect the property and privacy of others her son wouldn’t be dead. Her son went into someone else’s house, rummaged around in someone else’s closet, opened someone else’s case, unlocked someone else’s gun, loaded it with someone else’s ammunition, then fiddled around with it and somehow shot himself in the head. And it’s somehow being construed to be that someone else who is at fault? It’s far easier but less honest, to point the finger at someone else rather than take responsibility for oneself.
Ethan’s death was not completely preventable because Ethan apparently had a death wish. He pointed a loaded pistol, which he loaded or watched the other fifteen year-old load, at his head and pulled the trigger. If little Ethan was determined to kill himself, there is nothing any legislation could do to stop him, period.
They keep passing laws to insulate people from their own dumbfuckery…..
There is more than enough of the dumbfuckery to last us for a thousand years.
The camel’s nose under the tent when dry cleaning plastic was required to put a warning on it to warn people about using it on cribs as some stupid parents obviously used it for that and a few kids died because of their stupid parents…
Now we have that warning in at least three languages and warning labels on every fucking thing under the Sun…
How smart do you have to be to know that guns are a dangerous object and should not be played with…
Yoda observes that the butthurt and dumbfuckery is strong with those clowns…
Sheesh…
Maybe if they passed a law outlawing Darwin’s law of dumbfuckery and survival of the fittest they would stop being dumbfucks…
Mmmmmm… Hmmmmmm……
Uh no, you cannot legislate away dumbfuckery. That would be tantamount to stopping the sun rising in the East tomorrow morning. Laws don’t count for shit when a dedicated dumbfuck (aka fuckwit) is about to engage in dumbfuckery.
2/3 the cost of a ladder is the insurance the ladder company has to carry against dumbass customers doing dumbass things with ladders.
OT but you may want to look into this.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/11/exclusive-pentagon-investigating-army-two-star-general-for-retaliation-against-green-berets/
Very sad state of affairs at the school house. When I was in the 10th SFG, a captain ODA commander decided on an exercise his team would assassinate a local political leader. The powers that be went nuts and he was relieved and likely received a letter of reprimand in his personnel jacket, as this was shortly after whomever was President said the U.S. does not engage in assassinations ever. Too bad Hillary and Gadhafi never got that memo.
Ao, a law is passed to make sure all gunz are locked away from suicidal teens.
Then he uses a knife instead. Now what? Make sure all kitchen knives are locked up away from suicidal teens?
Oh…….wait…….didn’t the country formerly known as (not so) Great Britain try that? I wonder how that’s working out for them?
Sure, I realize some are going to label me as paranoid, but who’s ready to tackle this question. Is all the political discussion regarding gun laws supposed to be about making the world safe these days? Or is it a matter of knowing the first step in CONTROLLING the population at large is to remove them of their primary defenses (weapons)? Can anyone identify a country where gun confiscation actually made life safer?
Regarding gun control: for those on the Left, it’s never really been about guns.
Rather: for those on the Left, it’s always really been about control. Full, absolute control. Control over everything you do and say – and if they can figure out how, over everything you think think as well.
Orwell got it right when he wrote 1984.
The idiots like to cite Australia, conveniently ignoring that after the did their gun confiscation, assaults and murders with alternate weapons like knives skyrocketed.