Russia’s Reaction to U.S. Syria Pullout
“Do we need American troops? I don’t think so… Let’s not forget their presence is illegal as they neither have a UN mandate nor a Syrian government invitation, like we do.” – Vladimir Putin
According to President Trump, ISIS has been beaten down to the point that countries in the area can deal with them effectively. Would Russia be ecstatic over this decision for the U.S. to pull out?
With the U.S. largely removed from the picture on the ground, it’s up to Turkey and others to counter balance the Russians, Iranians, and other actors. We have the Kurds, and we still have the ability to continue to conduct air strikes over the area.
There’s also the chance that the Russians and Iranians could influence momentum on the ground in their favor. ISIS could be “removed and dislodged”, thus leaving us a Syria that’s grateful to Russia and Iran.
For their part, the Russians are being cautious.
Just as the decision to pull out surprised those within the U.S., and among our allies, it also surprised our enemies and adversaries. They’re praising what they believe is a new advantage on their part to frame and shape the new direction a new Syrian government could take.
From Al Monitor:
First, he agreed with Trump that the Islamic State was on the ropes, while adding that there was still “danger of these groups pouring into neighboring regions, Afghanistan in particular, and other countries to where they originate from.”
Second, the Russian president echoed the skepticism of many of his lieutenants.
“As for the pullout, I don’t know what it means,” he said, commenting, The United States has “been in Afghanistan for 17 years and almost every year they say they are pulling out.”
Finally, Putin tore into Western countries — the United States, France and Germany in particular — for allegedly pressuring the UN to block progress by the Astana trio.
“Do we need American troops [in this situation]? I don’t think so,” Putin said. “Let’s not forget their presence is illegal as they neither have a UN mandate nor a Syrian government invitation, like we do.”
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The United States is NOT the world’s policeman. We are unnecessarily shedding the blood of our warriors in shithole countries that have no desire to change. These conflicts have been raging for many years. Bring our troops home from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Okinawa and Japan. All they all want is for the United States to do what they should be doing. With apologies to the Chaplin, ladies and sensitive snow flakes, fuck them all. President Trump is right.
Agree, except for Okinawa and Japan.
Unconditional surrender means we get to have a presence there and in Germany for as long as we want. We gave them their self-rule after crushing them.
This is a dangerous position to hold for our long term security. History has consistently shown that there was always a country/state that extended its influence beyond its borders the way the U.S. is doing it now. Prior to the U.S., it was the European powers. The cold hard reality is that whenever the leading power, or leading powers, left the stage, other powers took their place. Many of these transitions were bloody. If the United States were to militarily disengage from the world, another country will step in and fill the void. If the United States were to sink beneath the waves tomorrow, another country would be well on the path to taking our place and doing what we’re doing. Given where the world is today, we’re either going to be in the driver’s seat, or we’re going to be locked in some other country’s economic and or political orbit. Add in the realities that the rest of the United States woke up to in the beginning of this century. Yes, these conflicts have been waging for many years. Let’s start with the raise of Islam and Muhammad in the beginning of the Medieval Period. Prior to that time, Christianity was widespread across northern Africa and the Middle East adjacent to the Mediterranean. There were other religious as well. What happened in the interim? What you saw in the Middle East, with regards to what ISIS did, occurred starting in the Middle East, spreading through Northern Africa, and on into the Iberian Peninsula. Pushing the Muslim controllers out of the Iberian Peninsula didn’t stop their bid for expansion… they continued pushing into Europe from the East. They’ve been at conflict with the west throughout that time. It’s one of the reasons to why we had the Barbary Wars in the beginning of the 19th Century. Despite how history has turned out for them, they still believe that they have a God given mandate to convert the rest of the world to their version of Islam. They wont quit either. Regardless of what we do, they cast a vote in… Read more »
Blah. Syria has always been a Russian ally and I couldn’t care less if they continue to be so for the next century.
You cannot force democracy on nations with a such a backward culture as islam.
I say get teh fukc out.
GDP per country:
1-US. 19,39 trillion
2- China 12.01 trillion
….
12- Russia 1.52 trillion
Who do you think I am worried about? Number 2 or number 12?
Source: https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/
You should care about what the Russians are doing in the Middle East… Especially if they’re working with “Death to America” chanting Iran. What the Russians are doing in Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and in South East Asia in conjunction with China, is a part of their bigger objective of knocking the United States out of the driver’s seat, and taking it for themselves… If the Chinese don’t beat them to it.
Once the U.S. is knocked out of the driver’s seat, they could continue on influencing policy not just in their region, but expanding outward. No need to militarily take on the United States, gain enough political and economic influence and you’ll be able to frustrate the U.S., and its allies, efforts around the world.
President Trump didn’t stop the world’s march towards integration. He changed the parameters by witch that march towards integration happens. With the Russians and Chinese working towards knocking the U.S. out of the driver’s seat, they stand a chance to heavily influence which way the world goes.
Also,disregarding a threat, because of their GDP ranking, is what the two authors of the book, “Unrestricted Warfare; China’s Master Plan to Destroy America,” talk about when they mention “means of war beyond the bandwidth of the U.S. military”.
At the time they wrote that, China didn’t have a 12.01 trillion GDP. The aim of their writing was to point out how a poor, underdog, country or non nation entity could defeat a stronger entity or stronger country… Or how a non nation entity could defeat a nation entity… Ergo, how a relatively weaker country could defeat a super power.
The GDP comparisons become useless in that context.
I mean, what was Bin Laden’s GDP compared to the U.S. at the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks?
China and Russia are working together with their common interest of destroying a “U.S. lead order” while establishing one that they influence instead.
We can’t discount the minor things that either country does. We do so at our own peril.
The GDP diff is the difference between an existential threat and a annoying bastard.
From the civilizational point of view, of course.
For us on tje receiving end is very real and a call to arms.
Just give the Kurds an annual allotment of three or four tactical nukes to use as they see fit.
I like your thinking TOW
I second that… the Kurds are good people that have stood by use for a long, long time.
Wait – weren’t people over here saying that Russia would have their hair on fire about this, or something?
Just trying to understand here. Vlad certainly does not need an expensive war in the Middle East, any more than we do.
There has never been anything BUT warfare in the Middle East, going back 15,000 years. That’s all they have ever done. If you want to stop the warfare, you’d have to obliterate them all… and then someone else would just step in and start it up again.
Written history only goes back to a certain time. What’s written is what could be used to verify how long warfare has taken place in a chosen location.
Yes, we’ve had warfare in that area for thousands of years. We’ve had warfare in other parts of the world for thousands of years.
Using the scientific disciplines that dig up evidence of earlier peoples, and cultures, people could say that humanity has been fighting wars for 10s of thousands of years.
Even in what’s contained within the United States, geographically, there’s evidence that wars have been fought long before the original colonies stood up on the east coast.
Are we fighting widespread wars within the borders of the United States today? What about widespread wars in Europe today?
We could leave the warring elements in the ME alone, but as Al Qaeda and later ISIS has shown, what has happened throughout history has this ugly tendency to keep occurring. Sooner or later someone is going to raise and overcome the divisions. Then we’ll be facing a unified threat.
Just ask the Chinese with regards to the Mongols, or Western Europe with regards to the Huns. Human nature doesn’t change, it won’t change.
But, what will change, given the centuries old manifest destiny that the radicals are pushing, is the western mindset if the Radicals aren’t busy being in the defensive.
Tjat blew mi mind.
I am gong to ned hours to process al tis onformation.
I jaf a 80s kick today.
Van Halen
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I can hear the rattling of clutched pearls from DC way down here in SoMD. Funny in a twisted sort of way- 2+ years now all we hear is “Bring the troops home!” from the chattering class of Dems. Now that Trump is poised to do just that, the howling from the left is deafening- “Worst strategy ever in the history of strategies!”
Trump could cure cancer and the left would whine about all the oncologists now out of work.
Trump keeps proving that no matter what he does, the left and the media will say it is the worst possible thing for the country.
Putin: “I and my gov’t would prefer that our young men die in Syria than those of America. Wait. Um. Dammit.”