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| October 30, 2018

Captive bull moose in velvet at AWCC.

Bridger-Teton blows up moose near Cache

Worried about possible people-carnivore conflict, Bridger-Teton National Forest officials recently exploded a full-grown bull moose whose final resting place was along a popular trail near the Cache Creek trailhead.

Wyoming Game and Fish Department personnel received a report from a hiker of the moose carcass’ whereabouts near the mouth of Woods Canyon late last week, and on Thursday night Game Warden Kyle Lash removed the head of the animal, which outwardly looked to be in good shape.

The next morning, Game and Fish’s brucellosis/feedground/habitat biologist, Ben Wise, examined the moose head and found “a lot” of carotid artery worms, which can cause blindness.

“We pulled a golf-ball-size amount of worms out of one side of [the artery],” Lash said, “and it was about the same on the others side.”

The animal’s lungs were also black, likely from pneumonia, but Wise’s assessment was that the parasitic worms were likely the leading cause of death. There was nothing to indicate the animal had been poached, Lash said.

The moose carcass, which was within the Gros Ventre Wilderness, was blown up by the Bridger-Teton on Friday.

“There’s nothing left,” Lash said. “It’s kind of a slick way to get rid of a carcass.”

The idea behind using explosives is that the not-so-intact body would be scavenged and thus dissipate much more quickly, reducing the odds that large carnivores would linger in an area frequented by people. Mountain lions, black bears and wolves are all regular inhabitants of the Cache Creek area. Lash passed on his concerns to the Bridger-Teton, especially because the Woods Canyon Trail is well-used by elk hunters in November.

The Jackson Hole Daily was unable to reach Bridger-Teton officials Sunday to learn how the explosion went, but Jackson Hole News&Guide copy editor Mark Huffman happened to be in the Cache Creek area when the sickened moose went “boom.” A forest staffer on site told him that 100 pounds of explosives were used to incinerate and distribute the rotting remains.

“It really was a large, impressive noise,” Huffman said. “The initial noise was like a crack, rather than what you would expect. You could hear [the percussion] moving around and echoing in that little, narrow canyon.”

A visit to the mouth of Woods Canyon on Saturday suggested that the bull’s body is now in tiny pieces and spread across a large area. A sign downslope lets hikers know what they’re about to pass by.

While the carcass itself is now unidentifiable, the pall of rot that lingers in the air is telling of the location of the moose’s explosion.

 

BOOM!

 

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Combat Historian

First…

Sgtfon

2nd no chit!

Sgtfon

wait, i just realized that it is only tuesday…..

Combat Historian

A few years ago, Nat Geo had a documentary about a dead whale that washed up on shore in Taiwan. The Taiwanese lifted up the dead whale carcass onto a tractor-trailer and was hauling it away for disposal when the 30-ton carcass exploded while the tractor-trailer was driving through the downtown district of a large city. Apparently the gas from the decaying carcass built up and reached critical mass and exploded, flinging rotting stinking whale remnants over a quarter-mile area and striking cars and pedestrians with rotting whale junk. I don’t think anybody was hurt in the explosion, but I’m sure it took many many days or weeks for the smell and stench to go away despite vigorous and repeated cleaning by public health authorities…

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

I remember watching that Nat geo doc about the whale. I hate to say this-But “what a gas”. (50’s saying)

Mason

Similar story, always worth a chuckle:

Sapper3307

Boomshanka!

Combat Historian

Breaking: POTUS Trump intends to sign an E.O. denying citizenship for illegal alien anchor babies. This E.O. will be tied up in court for God-knows-how-long, but you gotta give credit to Trump for having iron balls the size of church bells for attempting to close this TITANIC-sized immigration loophole that allows untold millions of illegal aliens to flood into this country…

David

Pretty sure if you look up the acceptable ways to amend the Constitution, “because I said so” is not on the list. Put it another way… would you want Hillary or Obama to be able to change the Constitution by fiat? I agree with him in concept (my personal idea is that a baby gets the same status as its parents – if they are illegal, so is he/she) but this is a dumbass way to go about it.

AW1Ed

It’s in the interpretation- no need to amend the Constitution. Or so some say.

I’ll post a more in-depth article.

Combat Historian

What AW1Ed said; there are conflicting interpretations about this, Constitution-wise. Trump’s proposed E.O is just an opening shot in what will be a long and contentious debate…let the debate begin…

Some Guy

100% ack. I agree with the concept as well, but a change of this magnitude needs to be instituted by congress. If this is true, then I can’t see it getting very far before being slapped down by the courts. There is a very good reason our system of government is set up to separate the executive from the legislative.

MrBill

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” Trump will somehow have to make the argument that babies born in the US, to mothers who are not authorized to be in the US, are NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the US. The precise question has never been addressed by SCOTUS so strictly speaking it’s an open question – but IMO it’s a stretch.

AW1Ed

Fruit of the poison tree- they broke laws getting here, so nothing they do after has any weight. Including dropping their crotch-fruit in the US.

desert

What is dumb about it? looks like a good start to me, where were you when obozo was issuing all his b.s. executive orders, I didn’t hear any complaints about his illegal crap! This IS NOT illegal, those slimey invaders are illegal, looking for free handouts, free social security, free medical…no…there is NOTHING dumbass about it imho

Sapper3307

https://youtu.be/xBgThvB_IDQ And I raise your ka-boom to a KA-SPALT!

Ex-PH2

Huge chunks of whale blubber falling everywhere!

I long for those days when we were much more practical about such things.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

What a blast they had at the moose blast blast off.

SFC D

The explosion was moosive.

5th/77th FA

Would this be the story of “Boom Winkle” and Stoney? Did Natasha and Boris collude and it blew up in their face?

Skyjumper

For some reason, this song came to mind after reading about the moose.

I know, I know….I’m one sick puppy. (grin)

Skyjumper

This one also comes to mind by “Da Yoopers”.

2/17 Air Cav

I could listen to her all day–and have, more than once.

MrBill

One of a kind.

2/17 Air Cav

The Socialist Democrats are very nervous. That blue wave they predicted may fail to appear next week. I don’t cite polls of any sort, not after the poll debacle of 2016 when all agreed that Wide Load’s only issue was how big her margin of victory would be. Since her resounding defeat, the Socialist Democrats have been uninhibited in flashing their insanity. The Hollywooders have been just beside themselves and mindless college students have been acting mindlessly. Multiple of our traditional values, enshrined in the Constitution, are daily attacked. Private enterprise, led by the social media giants and much of the media, are fixated on Trump’s demise. They speak and write using incendiary devices, stoking violence and threats of violence should the blue wave not reach shore. These are crazy times. Vote.

26Limabeans

Isn’t that the dumbest looking animal you have ever seen?

Last week of Moose just ended and Deer just started. Lotsa clowns in town this week.

Mason

So you’ve met a moose in person I gather? There’s a reason they call them cows and bulls. About as bright (and motivated) as cattle.

26Limabeans

“So you’ve met a moose in person I gather?”

Many times. I have even cut open the head with a chain saw to expose the golf ball size brain. Got pictures.

SFC D

Very few things on earth more motivated than a pissed-off moose. Fookin’ terrifying. Big, dumb, mean, and VERY territorial.

NDHoosier

Deer season?

Ex-PH2

I’m waiting for ice fishing season to start. If it doesn’t get cold enough to freeze the pond surfaces to a minimum of 3 inches thick, and preferably 6 inches, then there will be NO ice fishing.

26Limabeans

Speaking of dead critters, I was traveling the interstate yesterday morning at dawn and saw a dead deer in the breakdown lane being rendered by three coyotes. It was dark so the surprise pucker factor was high.
Saw lots of wild turkeys over about 100 miles but the best roadkill was a big propane grill upside down in the median. The bears will go after the smell of grease so that should make a mess. Good thing we have crows. They keep the highway sqeaky clean.

NDHoosier

Then there is this:

AnotherPat

“Veteran Faces 5 Years in Prison for Collecting $92,000 Over False PTSD Claims”:

https://13wham.com/news/local/veteran-faces-5-years-in-prison-for-collecting-92k-over-false-ptsd-claims

“A veteran from Fairport pleaded guilty to lying about suicides he says he witnessed overseas in order to claim disability benefits and claim tens of thousands of dollars.”

“Michael Pecka, 33, filed a claim for VA Disability Benefits in 2011 claiming that he had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) from witnessing the suicide of two fellow soldiers while deployed to Kuwait in 2004-2005 with the Army Reserve.”

“Pecka received because of his PTSD claims, he received more than $92,000 in tax free disability benefits that he wasn’t legally entitled to.”

“Pecka filed the initial claim while he was an inmate in federal prison for an unrelated bank fraud conviction. Investigators said he repeated his false claims about observing the suicides on government forms in 2011 and 2014.”

Mason

The convicted fraudster commits more fraud? Gobsmacked I am.

5th/77th FA

My shocked face,,,Not! Wonder how this POS is going to pay the 250K fine he got hit with, a GFM page?

2/17 Air Cav

Not a single Bullwinkle reference. Smatter, are you all too young to have watched Rockey and Bullwinkle (i.e., respectively, Rocket J. Squirrel and Bullwinkle J. Moose.)

The Other Whitey

And Boris, Natasha, and Fearless Leader, and their various commie plots re: Moose and Skvirrel.

Combat Historian

And please ignore the 2000 movie version with the execrable plot and the idiot Robert De Niro…

2/17 Air Cav

Never heard of it. It’s a shame that these hollywooders, who recite what others write and whose personal lives are so often a drugged and drunken mess, believe they can tell us what to think.

Combat Historian

Believe me, you have missed nothing at all by never hearing of it…

2/17 Air Cav

Speaking of hollywooders, their acting is something of a curiosity. For one thing, many of them sound the same and act the same whatever the movies. For another, unlike stage actors, if they flub, they get a do-over…and another…and another.

David

The difference between an actor and a star. A star is always the same… think Tom Cruise. An actor can be anyone – Spencer Tracy and Alec Guinness being perhaps the best of all time. DeNiro has had a good run as a star who occasionally acts – but not often.

2/17 Air Cav

The two examples you gave, Tracy and Guinnesss, were accomplished stage actors. DiNero was on stage for about two months in 1986 in the unforgettable, “Cuba & His Teddy Bear.”

The Other Whitey

You mean the one where DeNiro played a smarter version of himself?

Ex-PH2

One of the coaches at my skating rink was a Russian immigrant. Very nice man, but so help me, he looked exactly like Boris Badenov.
I tried to learn a little Russian on my own, and one morning, I said “Dobraota, tovarish” to him. He looked at me, and then grinned and said, “No, no! Tovarish is dead! Where is KGB?” He absolutely cracked me up. Very nice guy. And yes, his wife did looked vaguely like Natasha Fatale.

5th/77th FA

Did you miss mine @ 9:20 am? It was a little veiled.

SFC D

A little culture for our TAH denizens.

The Other Whitey

Dead moose? Shoot it a few times first to be safe. The big bastard might just be faking it to lure you in!

Mason

Best scene in Me, Myself, and Irene is him dispatching that cow on the highway.

I did once have a similar experience trying to dispatch a deer with a lame leg hit by a car. Over the course of two hours we shot it three times in the head, slit its throat, and shot it once in the heart. She was still clinging to life when the firefighter who wanted to turn it into sausage got fed up and just loaded it in his truck.

Sapper3307

A watched a doe her two fawns play bumper bingo at 45mph. The doe had a broken spine and was still crawling around one its front hooves, one fawn died and second made it into the wood line without its guts. a concerned driver put the mother out of its misery (.22LR) and removed her from the road, he found the fawn and did the same. Vermont fish and Game showed up and charged him with poaching and other firearm violations.

SGT Fon

to wonder if the Mountain lions, black bears and wolves think it taste like chicken?

2/17 Air Cav

I have always wanted to see a moose in the wild. Over the years, I have been to VT quite a number of times and the closest I ever came to seeing one was a big pile of shit which my wife said was probably moose poop.

Mason

Go to Alaska. They’re like rabbits up there. Signs on the highway have a running tally of mooses hit this season in the hundreds. All the semis up there have massive grill guard cow catchers.

26Limabeans

“my wife said was probably moose poop”

Moose poop looks like someone spilled a bag of malted milk balls. Not edible though.

2/17 Air Cav

Oh. That means I haven’t even seen moose shit then. Rats.

AnotherPat

There are edible “Moose Poops” on the Internet for human consumption/gag gifts.

There is even Moose Poop Dog Treats, made in Maine!

https://lisamariesmadeinmaine.com/product/moose-poop-dog-treats/

The Other Whitey

So not too long ago I posted about trying to put together a diorama scene set in the “Red Dawn +20”-verse of a unit of volunteer militiamen sworn into the Army National Guard as light infantry fighting the Soviet invasion. The setting would be north-central New Mexico, summer of ‘87. This unit would be equipped with Vietnam-surplus gear, carrying weapons either brought from home or pulled from CMP warehouses (Garands, carbines), with halftracks donated by VFW posts as motor transport. I’m thinking of depicting these guys interacting with either a Reserve/NG Huey, a regular Army/Reserve armor unit represented by an M60 (I haven’t ruled out a 105mm-gunned Abrams), or possibly both. Honestly, it depends on how much shelf space the wife will allot me for it. Doing 1/35 scale, so it won’t exactly be tiny.

Two questions I have for those folks who were in the Army in the late ‘80s. First, for the reactivated vehicles. I figure the halftrack should be retrofitted with a TOW launcher, up-armored somehow, and replacing the single .50-cal with a twin mount. Have I missed anything that should be included? The other concerns the tank. I’m leaning towards the M60 because I think it would be cool to give it the ERA add-on and have one or more of the reactive sections blown out, having successfully protected the tank from an incoming round. I’ve also read that the M85 light .50 in the commander’s cupola was a piece of shit. So would it be plausible for a tank crew in the hypothetical Third World War to have replaced the whole thing with a conventional hatch like the Israeli Magach 6 with a regular M2 mounted?

Still in the planning stage and open to suggestions, with a few other projects (niece’s F-4E, younger daughter’s F-100, small dio of my Uncle and his dog in Vietnam for my Mom) lined up ahead of it.

David

Isn’t ’87 a bit early for reactive armor, much less at a ANG unit level? Plus I seem to remember the Garand was not as common then as it is now. Hardly ever saw them on a range outside of CMP matches. I could be wrong, but that is what I remember then.

The Other Whitey

This is why I ask. Though some things could potentially go faster due to the war. When did they start throwing on the reactive armor, anyway? I thought that was an 80s thing, though evidently I was mistaken.

Combat Historian

In the regular world, properly replacing the M85 cupola with a conventional hatch on an M60A1 would have to be done at depot-level based on specs from AMC. In a WWIII scenario where the Soviets have physically invaded the USA, modifications done in the field by a main support battalion (MSB) or even a forward support battalion (FSB) may be required, as long as they have received the proper specs and authorization from Army Materiel Command (or what’s left of AMC) to do so. Unauthorized Local modifications to a tank that may infringe upon the armored protective integrity of said tank (such as changing the cupola hatch) is obviously prohibited in the routine world, but in a RED DAWN scenario, who knows? A lot may depend on how much of the institutional Big Army is left after the initial enemy invasion to keep the U.S. Army fighting and operating as an organized and standardized entity instead of as a fragmented force with units left to their own devices in terms of modifications and maintenance and things like that…

The Other Whitey

Per the alternate history scenario, which expands on the exposition given by Powers Booth in the movie, the initial nuclear decapitation strikes did kill Reagan, some of the Joint Chiefs, and some of Congress. All branches maintained their overall continuity, though, despite disruption by the nuke strikes and Spetznaz operations. It took a couple of weeks to really unfuck things, during which an initial token counteroffensive in northern Texas with poor coordination and barely any air support ended in disaster. It wasn’t all bad, though, as an attempted Mexican/Nicaraguan push into California and Arizona on the first day gets slaughtered by Marines from Pendleton and Soldiers from Forts Irwin and Huachuca.

Bush Sr. is sworn in as President, the Joint Chiefs are replaced, and the Navy has already been going to town on the commies’ sea line of communication. Powell is given command of 1st Army, which stops the invasion in the fall of ‘85 and forces a stalemate through ‘86, but fails to push them back. In ‘87, Schwarzkopf is placed in command of 3rd Army and told to go forth and kick ass, which he does, with Powell’s 1st finally starting to advance as the commies get squeezed.

Generally, it sounds like Big Army is alive and well, if a bit preoccupied. The citizen-soldier units seem to get minimal scrutiny, since they’re getting their grandfathers’ hand-me-down equipment anyway.

As for the tank, I figure it could be from an active-duty or reserve outfit. Am I right to understand that switching out the cupola could be plausible then? The parts I’ve read obliquely mention field mods, but don’t go into many details about them, especially not about the administrative aspect. If I have to pick between exactly matching the vaguer parts of the source material and maintaining a modicum of plausibility, I’ll go with the latter.

How about the ERA? Would (or could) that be a thing in 1987?

SFC D

Huachuca had an AZ NG Abrams unit on it until the mid 90’s, don’t recall seeing any active-armor on it. They had a pretty good pile of M113’s too. Very plausible they could’ve been involved in a border defense scenario.

Dinotanker

TOW,

The timeframe youre looking at would have been about the time I was a tanker and officer in 2/163rd ACR, which was part of the MT Army Nat’l Guard. WARNG. Prior to that, in the late 70’s/early 80’s I was an enlisted treadhead in Troop E, 303rd Cavalry of the WA ARNG. Both organizations were equipped with M60A1’s.

The M85 was troublesome for sure, as was the M73 Coaxial MG. The M-73 was replaced by the M240 ( a godsend).

In the situation youre talking about, Im pretty sure some enterprising tankers and cavalry dudes would have figured out how to replace the M85 with an M2. There probably would have to have been some monkeying around with how things were laid out in the cupola; but Im not sure if there would have been an removal of the cupola…

I agree with David below, I don’t recall seeing reactive armor until later, and that pretty much only on Marine M60-series tanks. But then, being a weekend warrior, I will not claim to have a total and complete knowledge of all things tank-like.

In ’85, I did serve with HHT, 2/1 Cavalry, Second Armored Division, at Ft Hood. We were a J-series cavalry squadron and were riding M3 Bradleys and flying AH1’s and OH58’s.

I don’t think mounting TOWs on reborn halftracks would to be too out of line, but if I remember right, we were still mounting them on Jeeps with a three-man crew in the 80’s. The cold math being that you could trade a jeep and crew for a T72 and crew and kind of still win.

There would have been a boatload of M113’s around, especially if your hometown unit was a mechanized infantry company…or a cavalry troop.

Sounds like a bunch of fun. Hope you put up pictures when you can.

The Other Whitey

Thanks, DT. In speccing this out, I could definitely see my Dad in such a hometown outfit (he was 26 in 1987), and given his training, combat experience, and unpleasant firsthand experience with communist takeovers, I doubt my Father-In-Law would choose to sit WWIII out either. So I kind of envision my Dad as one of the volunteer riflemen and my wife’s Dad as a volunteer NCO in this scene.

By the way, I know the M4 didn’t come out until the 90s, so what should the tank crew be carrying as personal weapons? Would it still be the Grease Gun, or would they have something M4-ish like the short CAR-15?

Dinotanker

TOW,

We each carried the good ol’ M1911A1. There were two M3A1 grease-guns per tank. The Loader and Driver usually packed them around. We usually only fired the M3 for familiarization, I think it truly was spray and pray…

(I figured I would scrounge an M16Asomething if I had to.)

Jeez Im older than your DAD! I was 28 in ’87.

The Other Whitey

Much obliged for the info, DT. I might even get started before the end of the year. Probably gonna need to get me an air brush to get the dust effects and whatnot right. I’m thinking I will go with a Magach-style hatch in place of the cupola, mainly because my skills are insufficient to make up a believable cupola with an M2 stuffed in it. On the other hand, plastic-welding a mount to the outside of the turret is fairly easy and won’t take much cleanup. I figure a similar add-on M240 for the loader’s hatch would also be a believable field mod.

Among my various available kit parts is a TOW launcher on a tripod that will be modded into the halftrack. That should be fairly easy. I briefly thought about going full gun truck on it in addition to the TOW, but decided that would be way too crowded, so I’m just gonna double up the .50s on the cab roof instead.

So the whole plan will be to have the tank parked by the halftrack, with the commander dismounted to talk something over with the militia/infantry NCOs. One of the tank crew taking the time to run a patch through his personal weapons on the turret roof, another standing in the hatch. Infantry not involved in the plan session will be hanging out, getting a smoke, loading ammo, etc. Might have one or two guarding some Russian prisoners. Haven’t quite decided how many figures I’ll include. Also kicking around the idea of having an M42 Duster dug in nearby, with it being attached to the volunteer unit as a “reactivated, better than nothing, will still rip the shit out of a Russian chopper” vehicle (and a nod to the movie, where Swayze, Sheen, et al find a knocked-out M42 near their home town). Also having second thoughts on the Huey, because it would probably have to be landing unrealistically close to the vehicles.

PS: would this be a bad time to mention that I was 3 in ‘87?

The Other Whitey

And it sounds like the reactive armor is a no-go, then. Too bad, ‘cause I was really liking the idea of having one or two blown-out panels to show that the tank had been seeing lots of the proverbial elephant lately.

Anything else I should either look for or avoid? Any particular way that packs, ammo cans, spare parts, MRE boxes, or other stuff should or shouldn’t be stowed? Could stuff be carried on the engine deck, or would it get too hot?

Commissioner Wretched

As we dodge moose parts and whale blubber, and avoid the dead skunk in the middle of the road, how would you all like a trivia column from the past? This one ran right around this time last year. Enjoy! DID YOU KNOW…? Did 20th Century fishermen catch a fish thought extinct since the dinosaurs died off? By Commissioner Wretched Now, I’ve seen everything. A couple of weeks ago, the Boy Scouts announced that they would start admitting girls to Cub Scouting, and there would be a program in place to allow young ladies to earn the coveted Eagle Scout award. And another part of what I’ve long known as the “normal” world comes crumbling down. Maybe a very dear friend of mine was right when she told me, “Normal is just a setting on your dryer.” As the world changes around us (on a daily basis, it seems), there are some things upon which we can set our anchor and know that they will always be there. Family, of course; church, to be sure. Baseball. And trivia.   Yes, trivia is one of the rocks upon which we can build a seemingly normal existence, since there will always be a need to know the minutiae, the little things in life. Want to let me know what you think of this little escapade into the trivia of life? Want to share a great asparagus recipe (if such things actually exist)? Notes sent to didyouknowcolumn@ gmail.com always get an answer. Now, friends, let’s set our anchors in the bedrock of trivia! Off we go! Did you know … … it’s possible to have more than a dollar in change in your pocket and still not be able to make change for a dollar? If the change in your pocket is made up of 3 quarters, 4 dimes, and 4 pennies, you have $1.19. You also have the largest amount of money in coins that can’t be used to make exact change for a dollar. (You would also have the contents of my pockets on the day before payday, too.) … a… Read more »

AnotherPat

Just imagine the field day the Left News Media would have if someone else other than HRC made this statement “They All Look Alike…”. Video is in the news article:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hillary-clinton-quips-they-all-look-alike-after-interviewer-mixes-up-cory-booker-and-eric-holder

“Hillary Clinton joked about how black men like Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., and former Attorney General Eric Holder “all look alike…”

Mason

Wow. Open racism. Since this is the first I’m hearing of this, I’ll assume CNN and NBC are busy covering it up for her.

AnotherPat

You nailed it, Mason.
👍

You can bet if it was a Conservative White Woman who made that statement, that the Liberal Left News Media would be all over the story. Or if a Conservative White Male, to include President Trump, joked that all Black Women look alike, i.e. Poor Maxine and Shirley Jackson Lee, it would be overly discussed with protestors in the streets.

So far, Washington Times and Fox News covered this story along with the video. The big news on CNN right now is Whitey Bulgar’s death in prison in West Virginia.

5th/77th FA

From the article a quote too from das hida beast, the bitch of Benghazi, “I’d still like to be President”. Bitch you got beat by both oblowme and Trump. It should be obvious by now, that most or least not enough, other people want you to be President….And yeah, if anybody else had a made a remark; like that, oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth; the screams of raciss.

5th/77th FA

“don’t want,” fumble fingered old man at work here. Figured y’all knew what I mean, didn’t want the casual visitor/troll to get the wrong idea. When is she gonna go away?

Mason

Yeah, CNN and the rest of the fake news media would rather insinuate that Trump calling himself a “nationalist” is somehow admitting he’s a Nazi.

The part I don’t get, other than they just hate America, is why shouldn’t the President of the United States not be a nationalist? The leader of any country should be expected to put their country first, right? Just bottles the mind the idiocy of the left the last several years.

AnotherPat

Donald Trump, Jr. also nailed it:

“Trump, Jr Suggest Media Hypocrisy Over Coverage of Clinton Remark On Holder/Booker”:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-jr-suggests-media-hypocrisy-over-coverage-of-clinton-remark-on-holder-booker

HMC Ret

I’m looking forward to the movies for the Christmas Season. There, I said Christmas Season and not Winter Season. You can find a safe space on most any college campus. The kid movies are starting on 9NOV with ‘The Grinch’. Trailers seem to be pretty good. The Russian and I have worked out a peace treaty re watching of TV shows. I like cop shows and we have two channels that play them 24/7. She lets me watch them and together we watch chick flicks, which are her favorite and some of which I enjoy. They are pretty well made and acted, but of the 16,000 or so such flicks, there have only been three plots since they began to be made. I haven’t watched an hour of football all season. Never again watching the pros. Yeah, I know, their loss, right? May watch some college playoff ball. Couldn’t give two cents for basketball, hockey, soccer, others. Some baseball.

OWB

Hallmark and their related channels have been running Christmas movies for a week or so already. Some of them are pretty good, but I refuse to watch them until later in the Christmas season. Yes, there has been some Christmas shopping going on around here, but only because we like to get that out of the way very early. Christmas is about things other than shopping, so we don’t like to muddle that too much after we actually get there on the calendar.

Dinotanker

Chief,

You probably just got me voluntold to take a diversity class for just typing Christmas Season. 🙂

26Limabeans

Whitey Bulger died.
The Howie Carr show is gonna be epic today.

Sapper3307

Was it the Clinton’s?

AW1Ed

See above post. What a sad day for America.

/sarc

Skyjumper

This just in:

“Barbra Streisand ‘thinking’ about moving to Canada if GOP keeps control of House”.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/barbra-streisand-thinking-about-moving-to-canada-if-gop-keeps-control-of-house.

And it’s making her fat?? LMAO

Don’t let the door hit-ya where the Good Lord
split-ya, Babs!

(Gratuitous picture of six half-nekid hunks for Ex-Ph2’s viewing pleasure) (grin)

https://youtu.be/QaG2Acg8n60?t=219

5th/77th FA

Thought she promised to leave if The Trumpster won in ’16? She still here? Did she ever make music? Do we care? Can we help her pack? Is there room on that bus/plane/train for others of her ilk? Is there a GFM linkie thingie to get her started? Asking for myself!

AnotherPat

“Is there a GFM linkie thingie to get her started?”

🤣😆😅😂

That was hilarious, 5th/77th FA…Thank You!

AnotherPat

Am sure her husband, Craig Kenneth Bruderlin,is going with her…😉

Ex-PH2

The STEAM moment was followed by a USMC mess hall kitchen. I would happily challenge to a gravy duel anyone who says ‘we have to give them adequate food’.

Next week, after voting and flu shot, I will repair to the store to get chipped beef (if anyone still makes that) and more sausage and make (SOS) chipped beef gravy on toast and sausage gravy and biscuits.
Adequate! Ha! Dog food is adequate if you have nothing else. Adequate…! (walks away mumbling under breath)

Mason

That video, good God. Could they have found anyone who can at least pretend they like their job? What’s with that private who basically says they need to eat three meals a day?

I’m dumber for having watched that and pissed off that they wasted countless man hours producing it.

Claw

Ex- Both Hormel and Armour still make dried beef. Comes in strips, so if you want to turn it into “chips”, you gotta do that yourself.

$3.50 – $3.99 a glass jar full.

26Limabeans

That was exciting.

5th/77th FA

Was really hoping to see more of the little cutie pie Girl Marine that was the click bait. Guess mess halls have changed as much, if not more than, everything else in the last 45 years. Appeared as if this Mess Sgt was the only Military Person in there. “Dining Hall Manager” indeed.

AnotherPat

5th/77th FA:

If you go to the 1:25 mark, you will see and hear a Black female in red discussing feeding the Marines. If looks as if she is wearing E2 stripes on her shirt and cover. Never been in a Marine Corps Messhall, but I think she may be a Marine…and the reason for wearing red is because of Marine colors..just a guess.

5th/77th FA

You right, went back and reviewed it again. Was another dude with the same type of red shirt that was Marine and appeared to be another with the black shirt. 1st time looking I was focused on her of the inappropriate thoughts and missed some stuff.

Frankie Cee

Jonn once described Kyle Christopher Barwan, DOB Jan 1, 1990 as “The most arrestable Phony in the Free World”. I dogged him for years, and I was finally able to cause an investigation into his bullshit. That investigation caused him to be sentenced to 20 months in the Florida Prison system, suspended, and put on “Community Control”, where he was to notify his probation officer of any moves, and was to seek employment. He skipped, and went on the run, perhaps early summer 2017. He ran first to Tennessee, where he was promptly exposed, then up to Ayer Mass, where he was again exposed, arrested and held until the good sheriff of Polk County Florida, Grady Judd could have him brought back. It was our comments here that caused him to be caught up with, and that caused several of his victims to contact me, asking for advice. Now, he will be released from Prison on or about November 1, 2018. In order to keep his name up in lights, I am asking y’all to comment on him, mentioning his name in the comment, (Once per comment is sufficient to establish a Goooooooooooooooooogle entry.), and by doing so, we can help anyone who is alert enough to check his name at Goooogle. I will be notified of each change in status that he makes while on parole/probation, such as address, place of employment, etc. We at TAH have done a good job exposing the posers, and this one in particular, is a threat to society. My money says that he will be on social media before sundown on his first day out. Thank you for commenting.:
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSearch/detail.aspx?Page=Detail&DCNumber=H50625&TypeSearch=AI

Mason

So just saying Kyle Christopher Barwan, DOB Jan 1, 1990 as “The most arrestable Phony in the Free World”, is enough to get Kyle Christopher Barwan, convicted felon and phony, some attention from the my all knowing lord and savior Google?

Frankie Cee

That is how it works, Mason. The mere mention of his name in a comment at the revered “This Ain’t Hell” blog can cause Kyle Barwan’s phony, poser, ass to be cuffed and stuffed. His father said it best, in a comment at the Polk County Sheriff’s video page on Facebook. He said: “He has lied since he could talk. He will not work, and will lie to get through life. He will never change.”

AnotherPat

Frankie Cee:

Are you soeaking of the same Kyle Christopher Barwan, a convicted Felon, who was arrested in Paducah, Kentucky and sentenced to 16 months in prison in 2013 for impersonating a US Army Chief Warrant Officer and committing fraud?:

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/louisville/press-releases/2013/man-arrested-in-paducah-sentenced-to-16-months-in-prison-for-impersonating-a-united-states-army-chief-warrant-officer-and-fraud

5th/77th FA

I did not remember that convicted felon Kyle Christopher Barwan, who started stealing oxygen and pullutting this earth on 1 Jan 1990, was being released so soon. Guard your wallets, hide your women & children, he will continue to lie ,cheat, and steal.

Frankie Cee

AnotherPat, yes sir, that is the same Kyle Christopher Barwan. Among his many claims that are 100% lies:
1LT, CWO, Cpt, Major, Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces, CIA, English Channel swimmer, Motocross world champion, Government hit man, British National, Wounded Warrior, carrier of a CIA implanted chip to advise him of future missions, and so much more.

Frankie Cee

Ivan was heard sayng “Nyet! Nyet! Nyet!” as he watched from shore:
World’s Biggest Dry Dock Sinks Holding Russia’s Only Aircraft Carrier
https://gcaptain.com/worlds-biggest-dry-dock-sinks-holding-russias-only-aircraft-carrier/

The Other Whitey

Oops! Hope you like Siberia, Comrade!

…Do they still call eachother that?

5th/77th FA

Got to be a “sinking feeling” when your only portable Air Base is in the body and fender shop and all of a sudden your body and fender shop is heading South, like sherman thru Georgia. Hope Ivan’s Sailors are OK. Somebody gonna have some ‘splaining to do.

HMC Ret

GREAT SEA STORY

The passenger steamer SS Warrimoo was quietly knifing its way through the waters of the mid-Pacific on its way from Vancouver to Australia. The navigator had just finished working out a star fix and brought Captain John DS. Phillips, the result. The Warrimoo’s position was LAT 0º 31′ N and LONG 179 30′ W. The date was 31 December 1899. “Know what this means?” First Mate Payton broke in, “We’re only a few miles from the intersection of the Equator and the International Date Line”. Captain Phillips was prankish enough to take full advantage of theopportunity for achieving the navigational freak of a lifetime. He called his navigators to the bridge to check & double check the ship’s position. He changed course slightly so as to bear directly on his mark. Then he adjusted the engine speed. The calm weather & clear night worked in his favor. At mid-night the SS Warrimoo lay on the Equator at exactly the point where it crossed the International Date Line! The consequences of this bizarre position were many:
The forward part (bow) of the ship was in the Southern Hemisphere & in the middle of summer.

The rear (stern) was in the Northern Hemisphere & in the middle of winter.

The date in the aft part of the ship was 31 December 1899.

In the bow (forward) part it was 1 January 1900.

This ship was therefore not only in:

Two different days,

Two different months,

Two different years,

Two different seasons

But in two different centuries – all at the same time!

I have trouble with the String Ahead, Fall Back thing. Was it just Florida or the entire nation that was going to choose one and stick with it? Do it already, will you?

5th/77th FA

Thanks Chief. Good one!