67 shots fired in 15 seconds

| March 1, 2018

Fox News reports that seven San Francisco police officers fired 65 rounds at homicide suspect Joel Armstrong who was inside an RV at a homeless encampment. Armstrong fired back twice and no one was injured in the massive exchange of gunfire.

The San Francisco Police Department said the shooting happened on Feb. 17 in the city’s Mission Bay neighborhood when officers confronted 31-year-old homicide suspect Joel Armstrong inside an RV at a homeless encampment.

Armstrong allegedly shot two men the day before during a carjacking in the city’s Panhandle neighborhood, killing one of them…Armstrong eventually turned himself in to police, and has been charged with murder, carjacking and eight counts of attempted murder.

The videos were released at a town hall meeting about the shooting, where residents expressed concerns about the number of homeless encampments in the area.

Good thing that they didn’t kill or injure the murderer.

Category: Dumbass Bullshit

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Graybeard

Darn, they expended the departments biennial allotment of practice ammo in just 15 seconds.
/s

AZtoVA

Couldn’t hit the broad side of an RV…

Ex-PH2

Point blank. That was painful to watch.

It confirms that old saying that some people can’t find their own posteriors with a map, a compass and a flashlight.

desert

ex ph2 you forgot at “high Noon” lol….SFPD was asked why they fired 65 rounds, PD spokesman said, “that’s all the ammo we had” lol 😉

Tallywhagger

Where’s Callahan when you need him?

Perry Gaskill

Harry wasn’t around, so the guy in the RV had a good reason for feeling lucky…

Tallywhagger

And, he WAS lucky. I feel bad for the folks whose RV got shot all to hell.

timactual

Was there any particular reason the cops were rolling around on the ground while firing? A police version of “fire and movement” perhaps?

Mick

They picked up those highly effective tactics, techniques, and procedures from watching old reruns of ‘Mannix’ and ‘T. J. Hooker’.

Atkron

Not enough cleavage…

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Oh you are cheeky.

Ex-PH2

You know, you guys could occasionally post a ‘don’t swallow’ alert.

Just to please Emily Post, could you do it?

Fyrfighter

Ex, among this group, I imagine “don’t swallow” as having an entirely different meaning.. at the very least, with IDC sarc, though i can’t imagine him actually saying such a thing..

The Other Whitey
Fyrfighter

Too damn funny TOW.. if you ever make it to Colorado, I’m buying the beers, we need to get together and chat, especially about mutual a “friend”…

Fjardeson

Or Captain Kirk from Star Trek, original series?

RGR 4-78

Keystone to this discussion is that no Cops were injured. 🙂

desert

That’s what they were taught in the reruns of “Police Academy”! 😉

OldManchu

They were in the tactical movement lane of the EIB test.

AW1Ed

That’s some mighty fine shootin’ there, Barney.

The Other Whitey

Lots of shots fired at no visible target. Granted, RVs tend to be the opposite of bulletproof, but I seem to remember being taught that whenever you discharge a round, you are responsible for anything and *everything* it hits, hence the reason why you’re supposed to be sure of your target and what’s behind it. I also couldn’t help but notice the two guys tripping over themselves and continuing to slap their triggers while rolling on the ground. It’s a miracle none of the cops shot eachother.

Then again, San Francisco.

Perry Gaskill

In any other city, you would probably get your ass fired if you were a cop and demonstrated publicly you couldn’t hit a bull in the butt with a board. In San Francisco, you probably get a bonus, lunch with Nancy Pelosi, and a pink Glock.

rgr769

San Fransicko, where the homeless pitch tents on the street and shit in your doorway. Gotta love how the progs have improved their city.

A Proud Infidel®™

As well as aluminum light posts falling over due to corrosion from years of being urinated on.

Fjardeson

Don’t RV’s have propane tanks and/or generators on board? Those, to paraphrase Sean Connery in Hunt for Red October, don’t take kindly to bullets…

The Other Whitey

Only really an issue if you shoot steel-core ammo. Steel on steel makes sparks, which are bad if it already has a leak going. Simply shooting the tank generally won’t do it, though, even with tracers. Gotta work out the stoichiometry: inside the tank is too rich to ignite. Once the plume from a leak finds an open flame of sufficient temperature (cigarettes generally won’t do it), though…boom.

Tallywhagger

I have welded diesel fuel saddle tanks on OTR tractors. You want those tanks to be full before you do that sort of thing.

Stoichiometry… takes me back to the days of inorganic chemistry. Learning it builds on a fine foundation for surviving derivative calculus.

AW1Ed

Practice safe math- don’t drink and derive.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Yo, whad up with all the Nu Yawk hatin’?

AW1Ed

Easy target. *cough*

GDContractor

Beware the Bomb Cyclone.

NHSparky

You mean shooting 12 bystanders outside the Empire State Building? How far away was the perp?

Connecticut?

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Shades of the Amido Dialo incident up in the Bronx a number of years ago when he was shot while reaching for his cell phone and not one LEO had a throwaway to put on the ground. When I worked for Brink’s, we had some NYPD retirees that went to work for us that were old school and always carried throwaways, just in case that they capped an unarmed perp.

Martinjmpr

Graduates of the Imperial Storm Trooper Marksmansip Course?

ChipNASA

If you haven’t seen these, they’re worth the watch. Really. (spew alert)

ChipNASA

Second and IMO not quite as funny…

ChipNASA

And the third, funny on a whole different level.

Ex-PH2

The BEST one EVER ….

Martinjmpr

Also just a reminder that “Only the police are trained to use guns effectively.” 😀

ChipNASA

Did you mean this??

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

“Good thing that they didn’t kill or injure the murderer”.

BREAKING NEWS:

The Department of Public Works now has to replace 15 street signs, 7 trash cans, 3 traffic lights and collect 12 dead and dying squirrels that were all caught in the cross fire.

Ex-PH2

Twelve dead or dying squirrels! Noooooo!

Think of the squirrel pups!!!!

#squirrelpupsmatter!!

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

UPDATE:

Of the 3 surviving wounded squirrels, 2 have died overnight. Their names will be released once next if kin are located.

Graybeard

The DPW squirrel collectors were then mugged by the homeless encampment inhabitants for stealing the major components of their squirrel stew planned for the evening meal.

Retired Master

At least the murderer will be able to stand trial /SARC

Cowpill

And will get off because the jury will see it as excessive force

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Separate court.

That would be civil.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

I was wrong on that, only a wee bit. It all depends, as we are talking about SF.

He could file a complaint of ex for in relation to his arrest during the criminal proceeding, however a good judge would defer that to a separate jurisdiction or court.

But in SF, they may write him a check for 5 million duskets and let him run for mayor.

I don’t know anymore.

Roger in Republic

This just proves that it is impossible to shoot a pistol accurately with a limp wrist. Way to go, SFPD.

ChipNASA

*Snerk*….goddamn savage….I mean “Gosh damn Thavage”

😀 😀 😀 😀

Guard Bum

Damn it…I was scrolling down thinking no one had grabbed that yet and boom..,,,!!!!

Ret_25X

Lamar says they should use javelins…the limp wrist is an advantage…

11B-Mailclerk

Be careful to stand out of arms reach before telling them to grab a javelin.

Deckie
Atkron

Did they check for wounded and dead on the other side of the RV?

Those rounds went somewhere…not in the accused, but something caught those projectiles.

OWB

Wasn’t raised concerned about such things, and am still not really, but the left has finally trained me to rethink some stuff.

Watcha wanna bet the murderer was/is a straight, white male citizen? If he was anything else he’d be protected from prosecution, arrest, and whatever, right?

How old was the deceased? Race of the victim? Ya gotta know this stuff now. Situational ethics demands it.

(Can’t believe I typed that. It is horrifying that the loony left has got even me considering such nonsense now.)

Nastyleg

Good god they have the same accuracy as general Hertling.

2/17 Air Cav

He was their instructor!

Nastyleg

😂

Dinotanker

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

2/17 Air Cav

Well, if this doesn’t demand a shooting contest between the SFPD and the NYPD, nothing ever will. Remember the guy who was in midtown who was going to kill himself? Police responded and I forget how many bystanders were hurt. Anyway, you have to watch the video. One LEO trips over his own feet, falls to the street, and fires like a Retarded Rambot. An RV could be penetrated by a rock and a slingshot, and no one hit the perp. Good golly Miss Molly.

2/17 Air Cav

Pistol Match Announcer: “And NYPD also scores no hits.”

Fyrfighter

body cam from the one dude with an AR seems to show him shooting at the moon, or something on a similar trajectory.. you can clearly see he’s aiming over the RV

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Hey, that only happened once … or twice … or a lot … but … OK … we have great attractions, bars, history, BROADWAY MUSICALS and traffic.

#stopthenychate

Mason

Even in SF the bullets aren’t straight.

Ex-PH2

Okay, it’s YOUR fault I laughed so loud I woke the cats out of a perfectly good comatose nap.

Graybeard

+1^1000

A Proud Infidel®™

Good thing the suspect fired at wasn’t an illegal alien. If that was the case the San Foo-foo City Council would spend the rest of the day and all of the next kissing up to the nearest Mexican Consulate and handing the illegal alien all they could as fast as they could.

Dennis - not chevy

I believe the SFPD will now only be allowed to carry one bullet.

Ex-PH2

No, no, no. SFPD cops will have to SHARE that one bullet. One bullet for two cops.

Devtun

They’ll just dispense w/ guns completely, and follow the British & Euro model of no guns for regular beat cops. Innocent bystanders would appreciate it.

TopGoz

They may be a slightly better marksmen than the Vogons.
https://youtu.be/ZHTRZpe9J7k

11B-Mailclerk

(Marvin the Martian voice)

“At least the -Vogons- produced an Earth-shattering Kaboom…”

GDContractor

@ 2 minutes 15 second mark.
Memories.

https://youtu.be/ht4PfYkJjoc

2/17 Air Cav

That’s a hoot. They just blew the department’s yearly ammo budget.

2/17 Air Cav

Ammo. Budget. Ammo. Budget. Those two words help explain why most police officers are not proficient in the use of their weapons. Many departments, if not most, require annual firearms qualification with a small number of rounds per officer. And by small, I mean small: 25. The qual is easy as pie and there is no adrenaline rush, no threat, no haste, no fear, no nothing. The hardest part of the requirement is cleaning the firearm afterwards. No wonder so many cops can’t hit shit.

E-6 type, 1 ea

HAHAHAHA! At :14, one cop trips over the cop laying on the ground, lands on his ass, recovers, and uses the cop on the ground as cover!! That might be the greatest shootout video I’ve ever seen, haha.

2/17 Air Cav

Is it a shootout if no one is shooting back? More like a circle jerk with bullets.

burk

back to the range quick!

lily

Why didn’t they just have swat send in that robot with c4 and blow him up like they did to the guy in the Dallas massacre?

2/17 Air Cav

If you would confine yourself to some other thread, it would be appreciated. We’re having fun here.

lily

I know my style makes REMFs mad.

The Other Whitey

You don’t have “style.” You’re just annoying. You’re essentially a low-grade social disease, i.e. crabs, not malignant enough to count as herpes or syphilis.

lily

You’re too needy. Happy that you got your reaction?

The Other Whitey

Reaction? You’re only a rash in the figurative sense.

NHSparky

Send your 214 to Jonn, or at least a signed 180.

This should be a fucking hoot.

rgr769

He wants us all to send ours to Jonn, then he will “think about it.”

11B-Mailclerk

Folks, LieLee clearly got banhammered over at the “stolen intellect” site for excessive dumb, and wanders here for more abuse.

Former EM1(SS)

Fustercluck.

That’s all I can say about that

Slick Goodlin

“One shot, one kill…not”.

Messkit

An illegal alien with a single negligent discharge from a stolen gun, has a better kill ratio than the SFPD.

FatCircles0311

Look what happens when you give the police weapons of war.

USMC Steve

I wonder if it was intended as suppressive fire to cover the maneuver element while they assaulted? Naw, that wouldn’t be it. Unlike infantry, I really think cops should only fire at things they can actually see.

Dinotanker

“Ummmmm Honest Chief we saw this in a war movie once…they called suppressive…no, not that, oh YEAH we were laying suppository fire…”

E4 Mafia For Life.

So bad they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn… Inside the barn.
Since it’s San Francisco, those were probably department mandated warning shots.