Most Americans say Trump, Congress not doing enough to stop mass shootings, Post-ABC poll finds
That’s the headline for a Washington Post article this morning – it was obviously written for the Post’s knee-jerk readers who only read headlines. In the first paragraph, the Post says;
More than 6 in 10 Americans fault Congress and President Trump for not doing enough to prevent mass shootings, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, with most Americans continuing to say these incidents are more reflective of problems identifying and addressing mental health issues than inadequate gun laws.
Yeah, there are thousands of laws which, if respected by the murderer in Florida, should have prevented the crime. The criminal was known by his peers, school officials, local and federal law enforcement officials to be a potential threat to his former classmates.
The Post-ABC poll also finds that 58 percent of adults say stricter gun control laws could have prevented the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, but there is no rise in support for banning assault weapons compared with two years ago and the partisan divide on this policy is as stark as ever.
Most rational Americans understand that more gun laws are merely farts in the wind and banning a scary-looking rifle from purchase is just something to make us feel better about ourselves and would have no real impact on the safety of innocents.
Americans are roughly split on this proposal [to ban scary-looking black rifles], with 50 percent in support and 46 percent opposed, a stark contrast from the 80 percent support for the ban in 1994, the year it was enacted. The current level of support is little different from 51 percent in 2016.
Mostly because the ban of scary-looking black rifles had no impact on crime. The Columbine massacre happened right smack dab in the middle of the ban.
Fully 86 percent of Democrats say stricter laws could have prevented the killings, compared with 29 percent of Republicans. Independents are squarely in between, with 57 percent saying stricter gun laws could have prevented the attack.
Well, that’s because the Democrats always want stricter laws – it’s their solution to everything. Well, except for things like restricting abortions which, by the way, kills more children than all of the school shootings combined.
Partisans disagree on whether allowing teachers to be armed could have stopped the attack, with 59 percent of Republicans saying it could, compared with 46 percent of independents and 23 percent of Democrats.
Yeah, well, the death of the Florida football coach who shielded students with his unarmed body should drive that point home to even the most partisan “do something, anything” crowd.
I could go on, S.E. Cupp does a better job at CNN tearing new orifices in the media.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
I just read that article by SE Cupp. That was a fantastic editorial.
Too bad the left will just dismiss it without reading the whole thing.
I agree. I hardly ever read anything from CNN, MSNBC, or any the others because of the blatant bias and open (R=evil racists, D=world saviors) agendas.
This lady gets it, and she articulates the argument an a clear manner. Too bad no one will bother to listen.
The only thing I’d disagree with Cupp is that we can go to the “news” for facts on anything. Guns, politics, weather, etc are all tainted by bias these days.
I think she was saying, that is our expectation…not the reality.
Why are those “lying” “bullshyting” polls on here? They are CRAP, a bunch of pussified snowflakes think TRUMP is at fault? so the rest of America joins in? BULLSHYT! The ones at fault are the liberals/leftist/communist/dumocraps/queers/NWO/RINOS/ pukes etc that have removed prayer from schools and Bible study from schools..what is left for kids to believe in? NOTHING, dumocraps? RINOS? brute force? MEDIA? mindless movies? get your shyt together, put these kids back in touch with Jesus and watch the changes! imo
They probably polled the same people they did before the presidential election.
Right on!
Congress and the President actually can do something. They can tie education funding to schools having armed security. I mentioned this before here some days ago. No armed security? Then no Federal funds. I don’t like the centralizing of state schools but it’s a fact of American life nowadays. States can say “No thanks” but, if they do, as is true with so many of the indoctrination and bullshit programs foisted on the states through this method, they lose Federal funding. The Left always wants to gun grab and see more nonsensical laws enacted. What we need are more guns in the hands of the right people at the right places.
And get rid of the SJW Administrator Positions to help fund the armed security? Please?
But… But… it’s for “the children”…
SJW for ALL!!!
NO EBIL BLACK GUNS!
How about the feds shut off the flow of foreign aid to those nations that take our money and then spit in our faces? Use that money to set up a fund for each state to apply to hire armed security for each school in their district.
Set minimum standards, like 2 armed guards in elementary schools, at least 3 in middle schools and 4 in high schools. Those guards have nothing to do with discipline, or watching a “troubled student”, or checking the hot spot for student smokers(like Columbine’s SRO). they just provide security.
If they put JESUS back in schools, they wouldn’t need guns IMHO!
As a concerned parent I agree with air cav
I demand armed guards in the schools!
I volunteere to donate two brand new A.R. 15’s of any make to my daughters school on my own money
And a case of ammunition !
I do not understand how this has not all ready been adopted by the Feds. I really do not. The adults are in charge right now and the adults need to do something that might deter a would-be school shooter, to stop him at the door, where possible, and to deliver rounds his way if need be. It just makes too much sense, I guess.
Sheriff Grady Judd has put forth a plan to train and arm the teachers! This is in Polk county and this is the first good idea I have heard so far? I do believe that if the teachers were properly trained and armed, these kind of things could be made much less severe or maybe even eliminated? Let’s hear what you folks think about it?
My cousin was the Chief of Police in Auburndale and I actually got to meet Sheriff Judd a few years ago. Great guy. If he has a plan, you better believe it will be brought to bear!!!!
I agree, he is a kick ass and take names Sheriff! I hope his plan is put in place!
The Sheriff in Brevard County released this video a couple of years ago after that nightclub shooting in Orlando:
Holy hashmarks, Batman
He has one for every hour he has been in law enforcement LOL
Mexifornia just passed and Moonbeam signed into law a provision prohibiting anyone being armed in any school admin or faculty. So the option of having designated and trained school employees armed is eliminated there.
Actually -solving- a problem ends the ability to drive political hysteria.
Which is why the “do something” of some folks actually do something -effective-. Politicians, however…
DID [Com]Post-ABC bother to poll anyone anyplace other than say, San Foo-foo, LA, NYC or downtown Chicago?
Yes.
Berkeley, Oakland, Portland, NAMBLA and the Whole Foods Vegan Aisle.
OF COURSE, but I was mentioning only the first few examples that came to my mind. Places like Camden or Newark NJ, Detroit and Gary IN come to mind as well, let’s not forget that 10 out of every 10 urban crime, gang and drug-infested hellholes on US Soil are places that have been lorded over by D-rats for DECADES at the least!
The problem really is mental health. Since deinstitutionalizing people with severe mental issues, they’re always out on the street. I know the teachers know who the problems are. The cops know who the problem people are. They’ve probably put them on health and welfare holds.
Once they get to the hospital though, they tell the shrink they aren’t suicidal and the docs release him. I’d sign holds on people who were clearly a danger to themselves if not everyone else and they’d be back on the street in less than an hour.
This doesn’t even discuss the group homes these people end up in that should be in a mental hospital. Dangerous, suicidal if not homicidal, people living in virtually every neighborhood.
+100, Mason.
Back when my appropriate nickname would have been “Brownbeard” and I was [much] younger and [only slightly] dumber, we had a recent mental health releasee show up at one of our stations (private security).
Her story was that she was just in from the bus from the town where the mental hospital was, and at that time of night we could not find lodging for her. (The women’s shelters had a curfew.)
Yours truly decided to let her crash on the sofa at my house – where my beloved wife and two kids were. It was only on the ride to the house that she started acting weirdly. I suppose her meds wore off.
I was not going to sleep with her in the house and my family there.
That was one interesting night. I ended up dumping her at the charity hospital waiting room. This was around 1980.
But it brought home to me just what the 1970s move to not confine the mentally ill had done to damage the chances of those poor souls who need help.
“Compassionate liberalism” and the Law of Unintended Consequences.
Why are the FBI and all the others who were aware of this scum prior to this NOT being taken to task over their failures?
They had plenty of warning, plenty of opportunities to stop him and none of them did anything. Why? THEY need to have their asses kicked for this failure.
Laws are NOT going to stop anyone who is looking for victims, especially en masse like this. Their object is less about killing masses of people than is about scaring the crap out of you and me.
Armed guards at schools would help, armed and trained teachers, also, but why was it that only ONE 15-year-old young man stood up to this creature from Hell? Why?
If there is any way to stop the screeching about ‘more control laws’, let me know. The real answer to that is to ARM AND TRAIN EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY, WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
Make it mandatory, if they want to get a driver’s license, vote, whatever.
That would require, you know, DOING something themselves. One of the biggest hallmarks of the left is curing problems by OTHER folks giving things up, other folks doing, other folks teaching their kids right and wrong. Never they themselves.
And admitting that the almighty government is infallible. If the solution is always more government, you have to believe that government is never wrong and incapable of being corrupted.
It honestly surprised me that the FBI came out so quickly and admitted their fuckup on this one.
I figured there’d at least be some deflection and denial, maybe a Congressional hearing, before a semi-admission that “things could have done better”.
Now that they’ve admitted that there was a colossal fuck up, will anyone get slammed for it?
Nope.
*could have been done better
I have to laugh at the ignorance of all this. This is Trump’s fault? Only because he is the current president and America’s memory is only as long as this week’s news cycle. Obama had 8 years to do something, nearly two in which he had a supermajority in which his party could have enacted almost anything they wanted. I wish they would just enforce the more than 10,000 laws already on the books. That would probably never change anything but at least it would eliminate one complaint. There has been a shift in our society and it is not any one thing, but a combination of many. That, I believe, will never get fixed.
If it happens on an (R)’s watch – it’s their fault. If a (D) is in power, it’s the (R)’s fault because they didn’t fall in with the (D)’s.
The (D) party knows better than the rest of us “deplorables”…
Like how Clinton got all the credit for the good economy of the late 90s even though Perot spelled it out in ’92 that if you do nothing, the economy will flourish. Of course Clinton did nothing and when the economy collapsed it wasn’t because of Clinton or powers outside his control (like how it boomed in the first place), it was all W’s fault.
The Wa[Com]Post, ABC (Always Broadcasting Communism) and the rest of the liberal TARDO media are sniveling lackeys to the agenda of them and their masters in the DNC. New laws, what will that do? Laws ALREADY exist banning those who have been Committed to a Mental Institution from owning or possessing a firearm or ammo, the NICS SHOULD HAVE prevented him from buying that firearm from an FFL Dealer. Laws against committing Murder already exist, did that help? NO. The School he chose for his act of extreme cowardice is a “Gun-Free Zone” which he saw as a guarantee that it would be a gallery full of unarmed VICTIMS versus what the la-la-land-headed libtards say it will be. Law Enforcement was called to his residence 39 DAMNED TIMES, but IMHO they were more afraid of getting sued by a Bernathian lawer than they were concerned with doing their jobs. And the Federal Bureau of Indifference? SHIT, they’re still too busy trying to carry out political persecutions from the previous administration.
Teachers should have the option of arming themselves. Nothing compulsory, but give them the option.
Just like we did for airline pilots! Have there been any hijackings since 9/11? I’ll save you the trouble of looking. There has not been an American hijacking since.
The tendency of American passengers to beat the everloving snot out of violent idiots on planes -might- also play a small role in discouraging hijacking.
Flight 93 is now the -expected- response. They -will- fight. The hijackers -will- fail.
This morning 850 AM WFTL radio had cnn coaching the Florida Parkland school students with scripts to talk about Gun Control. I do not watch either cnn or msnbc. so I will not catch it. March 17-18 has the gun show up at the County Fairgrounds which I hope to attend and just browse around and watch the rifle sales peak.
CNN, it figures. Because at 16 you have all the answers. And if not CNN will give them to you.
Hell, they hires Donna Brazille at one time to work for them…
I didn’t know shit at 16. Unfortunately, I didn’t figure that out till I was 30.
Instead of securing Afghanistan and Iraq maybe we should start considering how to secure our school children at a level at least equivalent to our court houses…you can’t enter a court house around here without passing through metal detectors and armed guards….but many school districts still allow folks to walk in off the streets with nary a check on who the hell they are.
Instead of an unarmed football coach and an absent SRO perhaps a team of 4-5 guys could be used in schools and instead of spending shitloads of money every day in Afghanistan and Iraq we could spend that money right here protecting people where they are far more likely to get shot. No one kills Americans as well as other Americans.
Israel had some terrorist-related school shootings. They put in “active measures”, armed school staff, as well as other methods. Subsequent attacks resulted in dead assholes, not dead kids.
So the method of armed defense of schools by staff has been proved effective. Those who refuse it are essentially complicit in the massacre of innocents.
Time to stop arguing politely, and start pointing out what epic stupidity does when applied to real life.
11B, I like your idea! The difference between Israeli teachers and US teachers is that most, if not all, of the teachers in Israel have worn a uniform, and probably are part of their reserves. I imagine that shooting up a school over there would result in some serious return fire.
Can you imagine if we said, hey Teach, great you have a bachelors and a masters degree, but you have done your “time”. You have your choice of armed forces…
I wonder how many heads would ‘splode?
11B-Mailclerk – do you have something different than the 2003 report linked below?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/30/armed-teachers-guards-key-to-school-security-in-israel.html
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7187969/massad-ayoob
https://townhall.com/columnists/lawrencemeyers/2018/02/15/president-trump-have-education-department-mandate-active-shooter-protocols-n2449726
The Israelis state that their situation is different, terrorists versus crazies. (My paraphrase) they have an overall and interlocking anti-terror scheme that Americans would likely find … oppressively restrictive.
But they do use far more active measures in schools over 100 students.
Couple of things jumped out from the poll. 1) President Trump was 50 percent vs. Congress 59 percent, lumped together for obvious reasons. 2) 479 cell phone interviews, of which 313 are with Adults. 3) Youngest male or female at home was asked the questions. 808 calls were made to represent 330 million Americans. Like I told my Statistics Professor, “Twain had it right, lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
In other news, most Americans are morons.
If moron includes imbeciles and spineless pansies who want the gov’t to solve their problems, I agree 100%.
Can’t forget the virtue signallers. Think one thing and say another cause you don’t want to look like a racist, homophobe, etc.
Me thinks all y’all simply don’t get it. You CANNOT reason with a knee jerk liberal, particularly one who is anti-gun. Save your breath and ink.
Liberals are the mordant idiots in the crowd who want someone to rescue them from everything.
But CM, it is so much fun using logic in the discussion and watching them spin out of control.
And in one discussion, I’ve actually run into a young man who is apparently willing to discuss issues and not resort to name calling and straw-man arguments.
“58 percent of adults say stricter gun control laws could have prevented the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School…”
That only tells me that 58 percent of adults do not understand the existing gun laws.
Indeed we should just pass some more laws we don’t enforce or can’t prosecute because that’s how we got everyone to stop doing drugs….oh, wait…
This is no shit. Whatever the speed limit, I never exceed it. Why? There’s a law. I also always come to a complete stop at a stop sign, even if there is not another soul on the road. Why? Same reason. And many years ago, I waited until I was of drinking age before I sipped my first beer. Why7? Because there’s a law!
Yeah,, and no one commits murder away from a school, or steals a car, or robs a store. All of that, and more, are against the law.
In regards to a ban on “assault weapons”, forgive me, it’s been about 35 years since HS Civics. Are we supposed to fear our government, or is our government supposed to fear us?
/rhetorical question alert
Every weapon ever made is an assault weapon, period.
Everything is an assault weapon, it’s in the way you use it. If I stab you with a pen, it’s an assault weapon. If I roll up the New York Times and hit you with it, it’s an assault weapon. A brick can be a building material or an assault weapon. Rifles are no different.
The purpose for which something is manufactured doesn’t always agree with how the thing is used. We have all used a kitchen knife as a screwdriver and a chair for a step stool. If I use a rifle as a club, its nature is not changed: it does not thereafter cease to be a rifle and become a club. What is the purpose, the nature, of an AR-15? Simply to dispense bullets. I have yet to see one which advises its owner to use the rifle for assaults. AR are not the initials for Assault Rifle, contrary to uninformed opinion.
are you saying that Armalite Rifle is not a sekret code?
Anyone who ends a sentence with “period” doesn’t have a valid argument. period.
Snark aside, an assault rifle is capable of automatic fire. It’s not that hard to understand. Mucking around with the definitions of words not only confuses the issue, it’s a silly trick that progs resort to time and again.
GDC; Fear the Gov’t that fears Guns. That’s why the Founders brought up the 2A.
It seems to me that there were multiple failures to prevent the Parkland shooting… any one which, if acted on, may have prevented it from happening. If one person stood up and took action, we wouldn’t be talking about it today.
If LEO’s and MH providers don’t want to take responsibility, then maybe it’s time for the public to do so. Give teachers and other school staff the opportunity to conceal carry on campus if the districts do not want to provide armed security on campuses. No hi-tech school with bullet-proof glass and electronic locks is going to stop someone with an agenda to create mayhem… only someone with a gun will.
I just reported someone yesterday from some Facebook comments. He admitted to have been locked up in a mental institution, and then went on to say he now owns 5 firearms…knowing he was breaking the law.
I took a screenshot, and emailed it to the ATF, asking them to investigate. Was he trolling or kidding? I don’t know, but I’ll let the authorities figure that out.
That or they’ll ignore it like the Federal Bureau of Indifference ignored the latest shooter, one CANNOT trust Government bureaucrats.
And what you suggest is in place in some schools but it’s a state-by-state, if not school district-by-school district determination. Well, hell, if I were a would-be shooter, which school would I choose, the one where there is security and some teachers are armed, or the one where guns are banned under all circumstances except on-duty law enforcement when on a call to the school? Even a crazed shooter wants to meet no resistance and chance living through his carnage.
The superintendent of the district where I formerly worked security said last night that he is “encouraging the students” to skip the day of the “nationwide demonstration” against guns. He won’t entertain the idea of armed security, and had a shit fit when my boss brought it up every year.
Should a been “to skip school the day of”..
It takes a real man to be willing to sacrifice the innocent children of others in order to maintain his principles. The SOB needs to be kicked in the ass and thrown threw the door–preferably a glass door.
Totally agree, 2/17. The guy is an educated idiot.
Yanno…we should get those states that have successfully passed laws that have eradicated crime to share their expertise…oh wait…yeah…..never mind
Dhimmicats/D-rats/progtards are always wanting to employ their “magical thinking” in favor of any law that imposes more control over the actions of their subjects/serfs/sheeple. Once they get their laws enacted, strict enforcement is not so important. During the 8-year 0bama regime, the background check system flagged thousands of obvious NFA violators, including straw purchasers, but only 44 people were prosecuted. Let’s pass more laws that go unenforced against the criminals and would-be criminals, but impair the rights of law-abiding citizens.
The prior administration also gave us Operation Fast & Furious.
What about all the anxiety meds these monsters were on. Big Pharma doesn’t allow bad press.
Stupid comment alert.
Ya can’t fight the beliefs of the uninformed.
I work in the Pharma field. I never realized I was part of a vast and powerful secret organization that can bend minds and shape the public will.
MWAHAHAHAHAH!
if you work in pharma and are unaware of the side effects documented in hundreds of studies of certain meds you might want to start at CDC.gov.
It is not all drugs, but there is a reason that no one on any psych treatment med is supposed to be monitored constantly.
Not only are some of the side effects listed on the information sheet, many in the psych community will prescribe contraindicated drugs together.
Having had both my troopers and my own kids caught in this, I will offer that the psych community in general seems to believe that a bag of pills and an appointment in 12 months is “treatment”.
should have said: there is a reason why anyone on any psych drug…
Thanks GB. I read it despite your warning. I regret doing so although it’s nice to widen the field of people, organizations, and corporations to blame while minimizing the actual shooter’s responsibility.
Israel figured it out 40 years ago.
SCHOOL SECURITY IN ISRAEL
Reading that, Israel mandates private security guards, they earn near minimum wage, and their competence has been questioned. The teachers are not authorized to carry unless licensed by virtue of fitting in one of these categories
“The law permits the following people to carry firearms in schools:
1. the guards (provided they are the security company’s property and not their own weapons),
2. authorized Education Ministry personnel using ministry firearms,
3. the police, and
4. the army. ”
Not my idea of “figuring it out” precisely.
Going to a school surrounded by barbed wire, having to pass through a checkpoint with the one security guard – who has the authority to refuse you entry – these are matters that most American citizens would not be welcome to seeing.
I work in a prison town. I would not feel good about my grandchildren’s school looking like prison yards. However, I have no problems with the teachers being trained and willing to employ firearms in the defense of the students.
This was the result of the terr’s shooting up an Israeli school a number of years ago and I remember when it happened but cannot remember what year it was.
Not a perfect model for the US, but it works for the Israelis, and can serve as a starting point here. The point is to protect the kids with obvious security and deter these attack from happening. As I posted elsewhere, these melt-downs are insane but not stupid.
Some school districts have posted signs informing all and sundry that the staff are armed, and will shoot them.
There are training courses being held for school employees to learn how to handle an active shooter situation.
IMHO, a bunch of educators, some/most of whom are carrying concealed so the perp doesn’t know who is a danger, would be better than turning a school into a prison yard.
Although, in all fairness, in some big cities I’d go for installing double fences topped with razor wire, with guard towers at strategic locations, to protect the kids from the neighborhoods in which they live.
“…and deter these attack from happening.”
And respond with swift and deadly force if needed.
Is it still a thing that schools do not call the local law enforcers when crimes are committed in those schools? They had been moving in the direction of keep out the police no matter what decades ago and it doesn’t appear that they have changed at all.
Make receipt of federal funds dependent upon their reporting of crimes in their schools.
They still fail/refuse to call the police. I had an adult student, 18 y/o, who had nude pics of a 14y/o girl on his cell phone, and he’d shared it with several other yutes. I escorted him to the assistant principle and that moron deleted the whole file. Didn’t want “to ruin a good kid’s life” over a boyish prank. My boss called the sheriff’s department, by the time the deputy showed up, the guy’s cell phone had mysteriously gone MIA.
I don’t know what happened from there, but I never got a subpoena to go to court for the shithead.
I have seen many times that the schools prefer to not call the cops. They want to treat any transgressions as school business. Whether it happens in school, on the bus, no matter how tangentially connected to the school it is.
They don’t want to “institutionalize” the kids into the criminal justice system. Even going so far as actively obstructing criminal investigations to “protect the children’s rights”.
Used to be the schools and the cops were on the same side, trying to turn kids into responsible, respectable citizens. The schools have since gone into social engineering and social justice.
Just ban children. No children, no school shootings.
You’re welcome.
Where was all the outrage in earlier mass shootings or is it just this current event on Trump’s watch? Were earlier victims expendable? Ask their families and friends. I also do not think so.
It has happened on Clinton and Obama’s watch too.
I see changes needed. You can start with no follow up by local LE and FBI when they were made aware of
status/threats by Cruz.
I also think a huge % are suffering from their nose out of joint about Hillary’s loss. I am sure if this had happened had she been in the oval office, there would be the same reaction as Willie and Barry’s tenure in the oval office.
Finally, for all those who talk about the intellect of high school students in marching, they walked out of local high schools during the riots in Portland which began Nov 9 ’16. They marched in the lunacy here in Portland adding to the circus that took place for four days.
I think this YouTuber did a good review of who’s responsible. I agree with most of what he said in the video. The only thing I think we as Americans need to figure out is how we’re going to handle guns in this country. Obviously times have changed a lot since 1776. We now have firearms the founding fathers never dreamed of. The 2nd Amendment was made so the people could protect themselves against the Government. The problem is the spirit of the 2nd Amendment no longer applies and any honest veteran knows that we’re out gunned by the government now. We can maybe stand against most non-military Government forces with the current 2nd Amendment, but no way against the military. And if you say “The military wouldn’t attack the people” then you’re invalidating the argument that you make saying the 2nd Amendment is so you can stand up against the Government. Maybe it’s time we go back from a Federal Army to state militia’s the way it was intended to be by the founding fathers?
nope, the hardware is still just plastic and metal. It never does anything without a human.
Just like drugs. Cars. Baseball bats. Knives.
Want to understand these incidents?
Understand the fraud of ADD and ADHD and the complete failure of the government agencies charged with caring for people.
The problem is government. The answer is personal responsibility. The constraint is the total lack of accountability for anyone involved.
If you want more murders, call for more prohibition. The “big L” libertarians have a very good argument here…the government is just a poor substitute for family and community.
“We now have firearms the founding fathers never dreamed of.” I do not recall seeing any restrictions and limitations imposed by the Founding Fathers with respect to future arms. In fact, when taken together with your statement regarding the weaponry now possessed by the gov’t, the absence of such restrictions and limitations makes perfect sense and once again spotlights the brilliance of our Founders. As for the spirit of the 2nd A no longer applying, I could not disagree more and, again, the Founders did not write, “Until such time as the spirit of the 2nd A exists, the right of the people…etc. Next up is that business about “any honest veteran knows.” Nice device. Being out gunned doesn’t mean defeat, now does it? Besides, there is much more to be considered, including fighting spirit and tactics. As our British enemy learned in the 18th century, a smaller, lesser armed force can defeat a stronger, more powerful opponent, in part by employing new tactics. Standing in formation across from one’s opponent in an open field, devoid of cover, certainly had its drawbacks. Americans are innovative, resilient, persistent and creative. If it ever came to a protracted fight between gov’t forces and the common citizenry, I’m not nearly as certain as you what the outcome would be.
Not to mention the Founding Fathers never imagined computers, internet, radio, television, or even ballpoints. Should free speech be limited accordingly?
Ask John Tester (D-MT) what he thinks.
He has to get re-elected in 2nd Amendment State.
Tough call.
Ditto Bernie Sanders.