$35 million – the cost of integration
According to the Daily Caller, the Army spent $35 million to renovate facilities at Fort Benning to accommodate female trainees going through Infantry training. So far, those renovations have produced 22 female graduates, with thirty more in the pipeline. But, hey, what’s a few million bucks when we’re able to say that we’re diverse.
The money was spent on female living facilities and video cameras for security;
As part of the effort to integrate men and women in combat arms, Fort Benning has also had to develop new laundry policies. Before, laundry was open at any time of night. Now, it’s bracketed off at certain times for women.
Initially, Fort Benning officials wanted to place female living quarters on a separate floor, but the women didn’t care for that arrangement. Instead, the women are housed in one of four main sleeping bays.
Newly installed security cameras keep watch on the bay door and the stairs leading to the bay.
That won’t be the end of costs for the Army;
Female recruits have had a higher injury rate than their male counterparts. For example, in the last class, hip stress fractures were an issue for six out of seven females injured in Charlie Company.
From the Associated Press;
And as women drop out, those remaining are moved to new companies to maintain balance within units, said Lt. Col Sam Edwards, commander of 1st Battalion, 19th Infantry regiment. More than 36 percent of Benning’s women have left — about twice the rate of men. Injuries have sidelined other women who plan to restart the training.
Army leaders are closely watching the integration to track injury and performance trends and ensure there are no problems.
“It was a boys club for a long time,” Kendrick said. “You have to be professional.”
Yeah, a boys’ club, that’s what it was. This is only training, it’s not like three or four years of living the infantry life. Show me the stats on the other end – how many women are going to take a another hitch in the infantry after living the life.
So, 35 million smackers to turn out 30 infantry-trained women doesn’t seem cost very effective to me. Especially in these times when training money is scarce.
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I wonder if that is just the infantry side of the house or if those costs also reflect the Armor/Cavalry side as well
So female Infantry AIT is the cost equivalent to producing the F35? Next month we will have transgender barracks for 65 million dollars.
I don’t think it’ll be that much.
If some transgender spec-four has male genitals, he goes to the male barracks. If said spec-four has female genitals, it’s the female barracks. Whether those genitals were provided by Mother Nature or a surgeon’s scalpel is irrelevant.
Good enough forya?
But if we use Army think the security detail monitoring the cameras will also be transgender and will require their own security cameras monitoring them also.
“Good enough forya?”
Have you ever actually been in a leadership position in the infantry or any MOS or are you just a cuck SJW troll?
From the standpoint of warfighting, appropriate use of tax money, logistics, morale, and innumerable other factors this is asinine.
I’ll put $200.00 on “cuck SJW troll,” Alex.
Ozzie, YOU make Yef look like Albert Einstein.
Whoa, whoa, I am way better looking than that Albert Einstein dude, whoever he is. You can be sure he wishes he could be as cute and sexy as me, and do half as many push-ups as I can do.
Pushups? Uncle Al’s brain did the pushups, Yef. And he was cute when he worked as a postal clerk, too.
Not if they don’t identify with their particular parts. That wouldn’t be “fair”.
A F35 costs a heck of lot more than $35 Mil.
F-35 LRIP Lot 9 unit cost is a cool $102.1M, not including the engine.
Lockheed grins.
I think of the cost like this.
Male 11B AIT compares to cost of an A10 vs the cost of female 11B AIT is the cost of an F35.
And just like the A10, the male 11B will likely kill many more bad guys. Anyway, he won’t be having those female problems and getting preggers to avoid deployment to the combat zone.
A transgender male/femail/it 11B might be able to pull the pregnancy thing still.
No surprise here.
I wonder if they will get 6-9 recycles as well?
I wonder how much that will cost.
Will they cycle monthly?
Ha, No…but funny thing. I went to a class that recommended offering pap smears to trans M-F.
I pointed out that it was ridiculous since M-F TGs don’t have a cervix. In the SJWs world, it’s all about making the TG feel like a real woman. Reality (cost/risk) be damned.
I saw an article in the Daily Mail (UK) where they are reporting that Girl Guides in England have made it a policy that anyone born male who identifies as female, at all levels of GG (5y.o. – 24, I believe) must be allowed to shower, pee, and sleep with the GGs born female. And parent cannot be told that there is a Tranny in the GG Troop.
I know that as a boy I would have “self-identified” very quickly for a chance to shower and sleep with the girls.
The idiocy continues rampant.
Insanity, Graybeard. Insanity – the denial of reality – is at work here.
They are all nuts over there.
I wonder if the ones that get to Ranger School will get a General as a lane grader on their patrols.
So I wonder how many Female troops are going to have their bodies broken, a number beyond repair as part of yet another Social Engineering Experiment inflicted by the previous administration so a gaggle of Goddamn politicians can pat themselves on the back?
About the time the V.A is flooded with females injured in basic training and rocking the 100% V.A benefits.
You people just hate women that want to prove themselves in combat roles. You probably didn’t support women Title 9 programs either.
If women couldn’t vote, politicians would not pander to them. You people think the problem is caused by too many opportunities being afforded to women.
You’re just peeved because you can’t go hang out in the women’s barracks any more.
I do enjoy women’s college basketball…no problem scoring cheap court-side tickets
G.I Jane did it in her documentary.
sarc
That’s not it at all Dave, some women, just some, can physically handle the training and lifestyle of being in the Infantry probably far better than some men. The point is our society is so wrapped up in everybody being equal that we overlook the fact that there are differences, physical differences between the sexes. These physical differences do not lend themselves to certain lifestyles. As far as mental toughness, I’ve known women far more mentally tough than I am. I’m not trying to hold women down or transgendered people down I just want them to realize that they are costing the country they’re attempting to fight for a lot of money in making changes for them. Now if our society grows up and we stop sexualizing the differences between the male and female form then perhaps it wouldn’t cost so much. But we’re talking about 17 to 21 year olds here so that’s going to be really hard to do.
It’s just going to be 80% of men and 20% of women who can do it, no matter how much the social justice crowd tries to make it 50/50.
No Dave Hardin, we are PISSED at something so obviously mentally retarded, and so destined to utterly and completely fail, where the limited funds available to better make the military more efficient at KILLING OUR ENEMIES could be properly spent. Crack troops ain’t men, a pound still weighs a pound, and a mile is still a mile, no matter what sex organs you got. I have no problem with them flying, but the strenuous stuff is going to waste every one of them within a year tops. Waste of time and effort and resources, period.
Dave wins again, troll lever MASTER
Kindly replace “lever” with “level”. Damn fat fingers!
Either that ois playing with her new Dave® sock puppet again…
I’ve learned my lesson that’s for sure. Haha.
While he’s got everyone distracted about pee pees and vajayjays, he’s probably taking their guns.
Only if it’s a .338 lapua
I have to wonder if Ft. Benning came back with a number which also included allot of other renovations to the barracks as well? After all, you couldn’t just renovate what would be the female section and leave the male sections in shambles.
Having been in the Army a few days, I can easily see the installation folks leveraging this for the max amount of cash I can get from Congress.
The barracks are being fully renovated. They’ve been working on various buildings since I reported last year, with two currently undergoing renovation. Both battalions that train females, 2-58 and 1-19, moved to newly renovated barracks in the past 18 or so months. While 1-19’s old footprint looks similar to when I passed through years ago, though, most if not all of these barracks were renovated around 2012. I found some pictures after trying to recall exactly how different the buildings were in 2001: http://www.fortbenningphotos.com/Fort-Benning-Past-Present/Historic-Infantry/Sand-Hill/Sand-Hill-Barracks/2012-Sand-Hill-Barracks/
Our building has sensors that seem to do nothing other than make a panel in the Drill Sergeant’s office blink incessantly, indicating that there are alarm systems installed in the post-2012 renovated bays. From what I understand, though, the female bays are automatically locked at night, and per regulation a fire watch has to stand by the doors to control access. As for the cameras, I’m not in one of those battalions, but I’m sure they have some sort of video feed going to the CQ and/or Battalion SD.
I’ve grown weary of trainees in general. Each cycle has a few damned good ones who stand head an shoulders above the best, and a bunch of decent enough ones, but each cycle also displays the inherent weakness of young people today. I applaud any young woman who volunteers and shows up her male counterparts, but I agree that spending so much money to separate genders which have historically demonstrated the ability to overcome any obstacle for the sake of intimacy is atrocious. Just like the former Drill Sergeants in 2-58 showed, if men and women are immersed in an environment, nature will take its course.
Thanks. Looks like they used “integration of females” as a lever for increased renovation funding.
I’ve always wondered at the Army’s preoccupation with wall lockers at basic/osut, the Marines seem to get by well enough with a foot locker, racks, and (AFAIK) in barracks rifle racks.
I think the whole thing is stupid, for several reasons.
– Infantry is shoot-shoot-bang-bang, right? Yeah, well, do these girls know that before they sign up?
– Why are they taking young girls instead of middle-aged women? Middle-aged women are somewhat sturdier, and might be more motivated, and they’d be more aware of what they’re getting into.
– We’re not really desperate right now, it isn’t WWII, when 99% of all positions were open to women (except combat), so what is this really all about? Is this a by-blow of bodaprez’s agenda or something else?
– How come they have to do their own laundry?
Roger that. They should get no different or special treatment, because should they actually get into the field, their units are not going to do that shit, because much more important tactical stuff takes precedence.
Still waiting for a female led bayonet charge…
tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9H7XplkI54
Did you witness the battle of Black Friday at Walmart?
Money is no object for the SJW types, because it’s SOOOOOOOOOOO easy to spend other people’s money.
“So far, those renovations have produced 22 female graduates,…”
Does that include or exclude Bradley Manning?
Exclude.
The creature that is known as Bradley Manning is not worthy of being granted status of either female or male. Rather, the status is “it”.
Ahhhh I see. Thanks I will carry on with the “it” status the next time I mention her. Uh… I mean it! 🙂
36% Attrition in initial training alone? Pretty sure that among the remaining 64% some graduated with conditions that will get worse over time.
Add to it the injuries that will happen when they are with their units.
Like Jonn said, lets see what’s left at the end of 4 years.
A lady who was in our church honorably served in Iraq – and her body was beat up by the mere fact of having to wear the body armor constantly and do the PT. She had to retire (as a good officer, it hurt her to leave “her” troops behind) when the damage became more than she could sustain without risking serious long-term impacts.
She would be among the first to have reservations about women getting into the truly heavy-lifting MOSs.
The result of too many people watching Starship Troopers (and its coed shower scene) and thinking that would be cool…
The part of this social experiment that drives me crazy is why should they change or retrofit a damned thing? If you want gender equality in the Infantry, then get after it. The very nature of updating or retrofitting anything is inequality.
OCS at Ft. Benning integrated females in 1976. The candidates all lived in the same barracks (next to the Airborne School and across the street from Building 5). Male and Female candidates even lived on the same floor in those barracks, just separate rooms (common sense). There was nothing special “built” for the females. Each gender had their own latrine/shower facilities (common sense), but that and the separate rooms were the only difference. Guess times have changed at the cost of taxpayers (possibly a CYA agenda).
Don’t worry, as the women drop out the waivers for retards that cut themselves will fill the 22 empty spaces…
fine as long as there is a class on diaper changing and a room to feed the kids!
The feeding room is right across the hall from the room where the hormones are dispensed for the trannies. And, right next to the room where the trannies can pick out their ideal penis or vajayjay from the new catalogues.
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Nothing substitutes for upper-body strength. Nothing. Some aberrations do have it, but most women do not.
Why is destructive and wasteful Obama’s military policy still being upheld? For fuck sake.
There is no way the $35 million was just for accommodating females. No security system is that expensive. Even with government contracting kick backs.
In the 1990’s (yeah, last century) I was a Drill Sgt at Fort Leonard Wood in a BCT Company. We were intergrated and like Benning, females were assigned to one wing or area of the barracks and it had a security system on the doors to alarm. Mostly to keep the two genders apart at night. That cost was reported to us as “$250,000” for all the barracks.
Honestly I never had much problems with females/males when the ratio was 20% or grater. For some reason if we had less than 20% injuries (both genders) would go up and we had more “hand holding” issues.
My best guess was that over the 20% the mind set of the troops changed. Less “oh I’m just a girl and need someone to help me” and “If I act like a big strong man and don’t take being yelled at, the women will flock to me” attitudes.
Either way I don’t see $35 million to set up a sleeping wing and not adding more facilities
35 million to be “diverse”? The word that comes to mind is “perverse”!
When I was 19yo I LOVED the co-ed barracks at CFB Esquimalt(Victoria BC), CCTV wasnt in the budget.
This made for a college dorm like scenario as virtually everyone was in their early 20’s. Plenty of Seamen to go around 😉
I cant remember any ‘incidents’ either.
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