Curtis Lyle Busby aka C.M. Hayden; phony POW

| November 27, 2017

Someone sent us their research on this fellow, Curtis Lyle Busby who wrote a book once entitled An American Veteran’s Journey, under the pen name Chris M. Hayden, which was supposed to be about his time in Vietnam. He told the journalist at the Beacon Senior News that he had suffered war wounds and captivity while he was in Vietnam;

Sgt. Chris Hayden, of Montrose, was unable to accept his medal in person—he was recovering from surgery to alleviate pain from old war wounds.

Hayden served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve in high school and enlisted the day after graduation in 1963. By 1965, he had completed aviation training and was assigned to the 1st Marine Aircraft Wing. He became a crew chief and gunner with UH-34D helicopters. He served 26 months just south of the Vietnamese Demilitarized Zone, was shot down and returned to the U.S.

He went back to Vietnam, serving in the Marble Mountains in Da Nang, and was promoted to sergeant. While flying into Laos searching for hidden prisoner of war sites, Hayden’s helicopter was shot down. Only he and one other crew member survived.

They were captured and suffered months of atrocities in a POW camp. Hayden was eventually rescued and returned to Great Lakes Naval Hospital in the U.S. His fellow crew member did not make it. Hayden was awarded a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for his service.

Busby, as Hayden, told the Washington Post, in 1984, that he’d been shot down as a crew chief on a UH-34D while in Vietnam. He didn’t mention the POW thing, though.

Hayden, who said he was shot down three times as a Marine helicopter gunner in Vietnam, said he dedicated his run to fellow veterans who survived the war only to “slowly die when they arrived home.”

We’ve been sitting on these articles for a month or so because we’d heard he had another name that we had to search until we came across this;

So we checked DPAA and he doesn’t show up under either name. Captain Mike McGrath, a real Vietnam POW and historian for the NAM-POW, Inc., had no record of him being a POW in Vietnam. So we ordered his records.

Busby had been in the Vietnam theater from March – October 1970, but not as crew chief on a UH-34D, he was a 6615, Technician, Aircraft Communications/Navigation System in the Marine Aircraft Group 15, 1st Marine Air Wing – MAG-15 was a fixed wing aircraft unit at Da Nang during the Vietnam War – no helicopters for him to crew.

MAG-15, 1st MAW was actually in Japan while Busby was assigned to them, but the FPO address in Busby’s records is 96022, for Da Nang, so he must have been advance party for the unit that moved to Da Nang after Busby went back to the States.

He did spend a few weeks (September/October 1970) in VMO-2 (Marine Observation Squadron 2) of the Marine Aircraft Group 11 (MAG-11) an OV-10 Bronco unit – again fixed-wing aircraft at Da Nang, no UH-34Ds.

In a war where it wasn’t unusual for helicopter crew chiefs to have thirty Air Medals after a year in Vietnam, Busby has not even one.

He left the Marine Corps as a sergeant, no aircraft he rode was shot down with him on it, no Purple Heart Medals, no Combat Action Ribbon. No real sympathy for a non-POW lone survivor.

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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Claw

And the Choo-Choo ran off the tracks at the mention of a pluralized Marble Mountain in the Beacon Senior News article.

Hayabusa

Well, he did receive the prestigious Marksman badge, as well as the highly sought after NDSM, so there’s that.

Combat Historian

This POS should have just labeled his book as a novel and “C. M. Hayden” could have done whatever the writer wanted him to do. First lesson in Life: Never mix the Real Reality with the reality you want Reality to be…

Hondo

Fake POW, and false claims of being wounded in combat.

FWIW: no one with the last name “Busby” was ever POW/MIA during the war in Southeast Asia. Regarding the last name “Hayden”, only one individual with that last name was ever POW/MIA. That individual was CDR Glen Miller Hayden, USN. He was lost in Laos on 17 Feb 1968. His remains were later returned to US custody and were positively identified on 30 March 1993.

http://www.dpaa.mil/portals/85/Documents/VietnamAccounting/pmsea_acc_p_name.pdf

Screw this LSoS.

Ex-PH2

OH, I get it. He’s nicking someone else’s real name/initials so that people will think the real Hayden wrote this, and when this jackass is found out, he’ll claim “it was all to HONOR the REAL Hayden”.

Yes, I do see a difference between C.M. and G.M, but you get the drift, right?

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Hey Curtis, Forrest Gump just called and he wants his tight running shorts and tube socks back NOW!

E4 Mafia For Life.

I don’t think Forrest would want back those tube socks after what Curtis did to them.
He’s likely to contract gonaherpesyphilaids.

Wilted Willy

Another sack of shit lying cocksucker! I wish they would drop your ass sans parachute over the jungles of the Viet of the Nam and see if you could find your way home? You sir are a shitstain asshamster!

A Proud Infidel®™

Cocksucker.

Ex-PH2

Assholio personified.

Not enough caffeine this morning.

I think just about anyone can do better story-telling than this social moron.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Another phony “door gunner”, just like Forgin’ Frank Visconti… and since he claims that he was a POW, his “buddy” didn’t make it through captivity to verify his claims.

Served honorably… but that isn’t good enough, so he had to embellish to make himself a hero.

Enjoy the Google fame, CURTIS LYLE BUSBY, aka C.M. HAYDEN… COCKSUCKER!

AnotherPat

Don’t forget about Michael Duane ” Killer” Killam, another Phony Vietnam POW and Door Gunner as well as his Buddy, the 1st SEAC who vouched for him! (The SEAC who claims a NDSM for the Vietnam Era even though he did not come into the US ARMY until 1975).

http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=63422

HMCS(FMF) ret

Thanks… two more shit stains that have been outed here at TAH

MarDet

Hey Curtis Lyle Busby aka shitstain…..you’re a fuckin liar you piece of shit! Why did you have to lie about being a POW in Vietnam? You pissed all over service now, hope it was worth it!

Claw

“had been in the Vietnam theater from March-October 1970”

Don’t mean to call Bullshit on Busby/Hayden’s story, but wait, I will:

From Pop-A-Smoke: “In August 1969, the last Marine UH-34D in Vietnam was retired from HMM-362 at Hue Phu Bai.”

AnotherPat

What is interesting (and not surprising) is that the Beacon Senior News in Colorado was notified of Busby AKA Hayden’s false claim when the story was originally published on 31 October 2017…and to this date, there has been no retraction to their fake news. Either the writer is in denial or the Beacon Senior News does not want to be embarrased, because story is still up.

This is their phone number and email address if any is interested in contacting them ( Good luck if you get a response):

524 30 Road, Suite 4
Grand Junction, CO 81504
(970) 243-8829
Fax: (800) 536-7516
Beacon@PendantPublishing.com

BTW, the other interesting thing about Busby/Hayden is that he has been living in Colorado for years, yet, there are no records of him being a registered Voter in that State. Nor is he a registered voter in Ohio (he went to High School in Cadiz, Ohio and graduated in 1964, not 1963). Either he doesn’t believe in voting…or can’t vote.

In this article, he is mentioned as being a helicopter pilot:

https://voicesofmarines.com/tag/vietnam-war/

He’s been rocking this lie for a long time.

Hondo

To be fair, there may be no record of him registered in Ohio because he wasn’t eligible to vote when he went into the USMC and left the state (and thus wasn’t in Ohio when he turned 21). Ohio’s voting age appears to have been 21 until passage of the 26th Amendment to the US Constitution in 1971.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ohio_Voting_Age,_Amendment_1_(1969)

AnotherPat

Hondo: Agree. Reason I checked Ohio was because I could not find him registered in CO. And sadly, there are folks who are registered to vote in 2 States. Most likely, they failed to notify the State that they were no longer a citizen of that State…or the new State failed to check if that person was registered in another State.

Thank you for the input. Again, he may not be interested in voting…or something might have happened in his past that he can’t vote.

USAFRetired

My comment after being held for moderation about his POW fraud was posted in the online edition of the Beacon Senior News.

Lets some others weigh in.

A Proud Infidel®™

I hereby make an official motion for Curtis Lyle Busby aka C.M Hayden to receive the Official TAH Wall of Insults®™

USAFRetired

I second

MrBill

Aye!

ChipNASA

Well gents (and ladies of TAH), it has been covered and I’m back at the post after a long weekend, but a sinus infection is not a fun reason to stay home. Hey Curt, You may want to lie down and roll over on your side and tuck you knees up because this is going to be more uncomfortable than a colonoscopy. Wall of Insults®™ (aka, “This Ain’t Hell” Thesaurus) FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!! TACTICAL NUCLEAR ROUND OUT!!!! DANGER CLOSE!!!! MOPP LEVEL 4!!! TAKE COVER!!!!! Curtis Lyle “Lying” Busby aka C.M. “More like B.M.” Hayden , NOT a POW, ALLEGEDLY, but not confirmed or proven, but in some people’s opinion, works balls, tickles taint and tongue punches hobo’s crusty fart boxes all, I Guess, while being a syphilitic, turd-sucking feces factory, Bitch-ass Fuckstick guzzler, pile infested, onion-eyed flapmouthed butt-bailiff, “Fowl” mouthed Chicken Fucking Chickenfucker, Simply a fart in life waiting to be fabreezed away, moral equivalent of pond scum, THIS MOTHERFUCKER IS A WALKING TURD, inflamed, “Towel boy” in a gay bath house, Ambulatory verbal dissembling anus, gaping ass fungus nugget, Cambodian cunt sauce, Poopy Headed ball working asshole, JERK OFF !!, Soup Sandwich, Poster-child for abortion, Dick Swallowing Spooge Sampling cum gobbling parasitic infection, Klootviool, should be ass raped and tea-bagged, at the same time, by a Rabid Rhinoceros, Anus tonguing shitslurping fuckwitted hemorrhoid munching wanktoaster, cock gobbling Pigfucker, lientery steatorrhea, sperm burping, Sloshing bucket of Hippo Diarrhea, dickwad that can’t make a good seal on Tupperware, Buttcrackiula, tit, Sharmouta, sniveling, codpiece licking toilet seat sniffer, as worthless as a Toyota airbag, lying bucket of Chihuahua shit, taintpimple, Pillow bitin pickle smoocher, meat-gazing walrus fart hamster queef that should have stayed a tittyfuck cumstain in the back seat of an AMC Pacer, Bowl of ass soup, Festering fuckwart on a sewer rat’s ass, needle dick bug fucker, wad of fungus on a pile of roach turd, Drongo, Satan even said about you, “Boy is this guy a DICK!, Sparklepony, Toilet weasel, worthless, Vice Admiral of the Narrow Seas, Blows winos behind bus stops for a nickel and gives change,… Read more »

Haywire Angel

Amen

ChipNASA

I’m adding that.

Steve1371

I won’t be spending any of my hard earned money on this bullshiters book of utter nonsense. If he actually sells any of those books of horse shit and makes money from it ,doesn’t it become a criminal offense of stolen valor?
I have ridden in a lot of UH34 choppers and almost fell out of one once and would have if not for the door gunner grabing me. February 9 1968 flying into Camp Carrol, incomming caused the chopper to tip hard right and I was on my way out the door. They still Landed and dropped me off and got the hell out of there. I was standing there wondering what the hell happened and where was every one. I heard someone yelling “get in the hole” and I wondered what hole.
Then someone came out of a bunker and pulled me back into the bunker as another barrage came screaming in. I quickly learned after that.
Thanks to that particular door gunner and to whoever pulled me into that bunker before I got turned into a pink haze on my first day with my unit in the field!

Ex-PH2

It might not be so bad if it were in the fiction category, but he didn’t do that. He didn’t write a novel. He wrote a phony autobiography.

It isn’t a crime to sell that crap, any more than it’s a crime to sell Amway’s crap. He’s simply counting on the ignorance of the general public, that’s all. Unfortunately, he didn’t label it “fiction”, it’s in the “nonfiction” section, and it’s baloney. There are plenty who’ve done the same thing before this one and they didn’t get away with it, either.

I find it more annoying that he used CDR Hayden’s name as a cover for his bullshitting.

E4 Mafia For Life.

Is that like an identity thing where he/she/it refers to themselves in the third person plural past tense non-binary asexual?
And he mispelled Cluster, call sign “Charlie Foxtrot?”

Ex-PH2

Ah! Then he’s trying to cover his tracks, so to speak.

I don’t know if I could come up with anything that silly…

Ex-PH2

“Hayden, who said he was shot down three times as a Marine helicopter gunner in Vietnam….”

Shot down three times as a door gunner in Viet of the Nam. Dagnabbit, the guy must be as tough as saltwater taffy! You have to admire his stamina, his willingness to just get up off his lying dead ass and dive right back into the thick of it, don’t you?

How come he still has all his limbs intact?

Green Thumb

Fiction-flinging Felcher.

Alemaster

Didn’t Dick Blumenthal once mention personally shooting the lock off Hayden’s “tiger cage” with an evil black rifle to set him free? Thought so! regards, Alemaster

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

At least he’s not a Floridian. If he shaved off that beard and stash, he would look like my upstairs neighbor.

Joseph Williams

To say this guy pisses me off is off the meter. Hmm 362 is my squadron. We were strationed at Marble Mountain Air Base outside of Da Nang.The missing awards of Combat Aircrew wings and Air medals show his lies. One must fly as portside gunner and 1st mechanic before testing for crew chief.

Mick

These lying posers never comprehend just how much time, effort, and dedication it actually takes to qualify as a helicopter crew chief.

AnotherPat

He did experience trauma in his life, but not in Okinawa or Vietnam.

Sadly,in December 1969, while living in Ohio County, West Virginia, he and his wife lost their infant son because of premature birth.

Have symphathy for him for that. On his lies, no symphathy.

Graybeard

My wife and I experienced a miscarriage in 1983.
Our daughter lost twins in a miscarriage in 2002.

We don’t feel sorry for ourselves. That grief is gone, although the loss is still there. I don’t expect anyone to have sympathy for us for such a loss so long ago. We, however, can grieve well with those who have experienced that loss recently.

So nope. My sympathy meter is still pegged at -5.

rgr769

I was wondering why he was claiming to be a helicopter crew chief if he was actually assigned to fixed wing aviation squadrons in RVN, then it dawned on me: because an airdale assigned to OV-10’s is not going to be riding in aircraft on operations. The back seat in a OV-10 is either empty or occupied by an observer. No door gunners. Plus, they don’t land in the jungle or normally fly low enough to get shot down by small arms ground fire.