FBI supervisor’s missing gun

| November 10, 2017

Bobo sends us a link to the story of Robert Manson, a supervisor in the FBI’s anti-terrorism unit who woke up after a night with a local woman in Charlotte, North Carolina to find that she had liberated his .40 caliber Glock, his $6000 Rolex watch and $60 in cash, according to the New York Times.

The episode is an embarrassing mishap for the F.B.I. As a unit chief assigned to the bureau’s headquarters, Mr. Manson oversees all terrorism investigations in the Midwest and the Carolinas. An F.B.I. spokesman, Michael P. Kortan, said the incident was the subject of an internal investigation and declined to give additional comment.

Mr. Manson and other senior agents were in Charlotte for training, according to a law enforcement official familiar with the episode. The agents later told the police that they had been drinking with women who said they were exotic dancers, according to a second person who was briefed on the investigation but, like the first, was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

“Investigators determined that the victim, Robert Manson, met a woman in the hotel bar the prior night and took her back to his hotel room,” Robert Tufano, a spokesman for the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, said in a statement.

You know, if my job was law enforcement, especially in the realm of domestic terrorism, I think I’d be mistrustful of any strangers, in spite of any attractive physical attributes. But, hey, I’m not in law enforcement, so what do I know. I wonder how long it will take for the handgun to turn up in a murder investigation.

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assemblerhead

Does the FBI pay well enough for Agents to be sporting real Rolex watches?

Or is this an indicator of something … dirty?

26Limabeans

“$60 in cash”

Not even tip money in my day.

Big spenders those agents.

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

Hey, he only had 60 bucks because he took out a 2nd mortgage on his house to buy the Rolex.

Google it!

Hondo

Well, I’m pretty sure that FBI unit supervisors at HQ are GS13 or above. So yeah – if the guy wanted one and saved up a bit of his salary he could probably afford to spend, oh, $5950 more than necessary on a nice wristwatch.

QMC

A little birdie has told me he’s a GS14.

Hack Stone

That may be changing soon.

OldSoldier54

One can only hope …

SFC D

Yup. He’ll be SES level shortly. Fuck up and move up.

RM3(SS)

LOL SFC D! We’ve never seen that before at ICE have we. :p

RM3(SS)

I was going to say GS-14 or 15. Say step 4, means base of 123k. Plus 25% LEAP. So making around 150k. He can afford a nice watch especially if he’s single.

timactual

But then add in the drinks and hookers….

MCPO NYC USN Ret.

So.

FBI Special Agent (SA) are generally up to GS-13.

Supervisory Special Agent (SSA) are generally GS-14.

Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) are generally GS-15.

Special Agent in Charge (SAIC) and Assistant Director in Charge (ADIC) are all SES appointments.

Perry Gaskill

Let’s get our minds out of the gutter, and not jump to conclusions. It could have all been very innocent. The exotic dancer, her name was Bambi, might have wanted some advice from the FBI guy on career opportunities in the federal government…

Sj

esp since he is sporting a $6K watch.

PJS

A civil servant with a $6000 Rolex? Huh, I was in the wrong part of the government.

Thunderstixx

A GS-13 with a six grand Rolex ???
How the hell does that work ???
An FBI supervisor taken to the cleaners by some hotel lounge lizard.
——-sigh——-
Obviously a perfect example of the Peter Principle in practice……..

Sj

Says he was a “unit chief” from the HQ. I’m guessing he was more than a 13…maybe even SES. SES’s and 15’s are a dime a dozen in DC. But, still, your point is right re the watch.

Hondo

GS13s in the DC area (and other big cities) get a hefty boost in salary due to locality pay. And LE often works overtime – which might explain the extra $$$ available for the watch.

And, as Sj notes, it’s entirely possible that as a HQ-based unit supervisor he was a GS15 or SES.

Graybeard

I’ve never figured out why I’d need a $6,000.00 watch.

My Wal-Mart special has been keeping perfect time for years. I can spend the other $5,980.00 on things that are important: practice ammo.

OldSoldier54

Ding! Ding! Ding!

You win the Internet for the day, Brother!!

Club Manager

My $17 Saigon BX Seiko still works great after a work over by Seiko.

rgr769

How’d you pull that off. I took my Viet of the Nam PX Sieko to a watch shop in the states and the guy told me we can’t fix these Seikos from over there because we can’t get parts for them and the warranties are no good here.

A Proud Infidel®™

IMHO $5,980.00 can buy some VERY NICE additions to a firearm collection as well!!!

NHSparky

I never “needed” a Tag Heuer, but when I saw what it was selling for at the Pensacola exchange, I couldn’t resist.

25 years and one ex-wife later, the watch is still in great shape.

Haltom

A military guy bought a Rolex Daytona for about $600 (3 months pay)at the PX in 1973. If you boxed it and sat on it with the paperwork, it’d be worth about $100K now. Antique Road Show. For my 1977 tour I managed to keep my Timex (CIF issued) field watch.

Perry Gaskill

This could make you spill your breakfast beer. Last month, a Rolex Daytona previously owned by Paul Newman, and worn regularly during the 1970s, sold at auction for $17.8 million.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-26/paul-newman-s-daytona-rolex-sells-for-record-17-8-million

jonp

I make far, far less than he does and I have an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean. Saved my pennies for it.

Angry B

Yeah…a $6k watch and this jackass is probably not even maxing out his TSP contributions. Bet he drives a real cool car, too–all the better to impress the “ladies.”

It is hard to be stupid.

A Proud Infidel®™

“It is hard to be stupid.”

I respectfully add my $.002 worth to that saying “IT IS HARD TO BE THAT degree of STUPID!.”

A Proud Infidel®™

From the NYT article:

“At 6:30 the next morning, police officers for the department were called to the hotel. Mr. Manson was incapacitated because of alcohol, according to the police report, which he did not file himself. A fellow agent, Kevin Thuman, gave the report, which says the theft happened from 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. The hotel bar closes at 2 a.m.”

Getting shitface drunk with a Bimbo that says she’s a Stripper THEN leaving your weapon and Rolex watch where she could swipe it? SMOOTH MOVE, EX-LAX!!!

Graybeard

Still so drunk the next morning your fellow agents have to call the cops and give the report?

The country is in the best of hands. /s

UpNorth

There’s a good reason the Feebs are known as the Famous But Incompetent.

A Proud Infidel®™

OR the Federal Bureau of Indifference.

UpNorth

That too.

Weekend Warrior in Texas

Maybe his pals set him up. Federal agencies have plenty of backstabbers bucking for promotions.

Fjardeson

I’d believe that one, especially if he’s single. Get them to think with the little head, and they’re toast. PERSEC, people!

chooee lee

It’s gonna cost him more that all that bling if he is married.

Graybeard

“You cheated on me with another stripper?” sounds like a possibility.

Although truth be told the divorce rate among LEOs is near 99%. The chances are very good that he has no wife.

My LEO brother, and his LEO brother-in-law, were talking over dinner one evening and both commented that they could think of no other LEO of their acquaintance who was not divorced at least once. I know a handful more from church. It’s a rough life.

David

Funny, for all the talk that the military is hard on marriages, after 30+ years out of it, my wife know only a handful of couples married the first time for over 35 years… and they are ALL military friends.

UpNorth

Me!! Me,sir. 30 years in LE, 47 years married. And, most of the guys I went through recruit school have never divorced. I think 3 out of 27 got divorced.

Hack Stone

I don’t know if I want to live in a world where you cannot trust an exotic dancer. Society has now officially collapsed.

OldSoldier54

The HORROR …

Carlton G. Long

Even though the FBI is not actually military, this is somehow still going to result in even more powerpoint presentations to be endured by all O-5 and below.

A Proud Infidel®™

GREAT, and entire “Death by PowerPoint” session saying “THOU SHALT NOT get shitface drunk with strange Bimbos in a hotel room while there on business”!

nousdefions

Today, the US Senate passed the Sexual Harassment Intervention Training resolution mandating training for all Senators and staff. Upon returning home during the Veterans Day recess, constituents will complain that the do nothing Senate has done nothing. Senators will then reply, “We passed S.H.I.T!”

Hack Stone

Any truth to the rumors that the exotic dancer was named Elaine Ricci.

A Proud Infidel®™

HAS her woman-owned Company fallen on hard times?

Hack Stone

If you started at the bottom, and never left the bottom, and have no hope of leaving the bottom, have you really fallen? As to (see what I did there), since the company website never reveals who the Proud woman” who owns the company is, we now refer to it as a proud but humble woman owned business.

Sj

Is this one that all the contracts mail kept blowing out the mailbox because there was no door? And wasn’t there a Jag involved?

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

A six grand watch???. I should have gotten a job with the FBI. His boss will really have to “watch” him now. I wonder if he had a good “time” with the chick. I’ll bet he gave his boss some spiel about the missing Glock. I could see Harpo playing a GlocknSpiel in the back ground while he told his sob story. Ok, I spent too much time on this post. Later aligator.

Ex-PH2

“the incident was the subject of an internal investigation…”
I doubt either Manson or the stripper had anything but their brains stuck up their bums. Not even sure he had any to stick up there, either.
When are you guys going to learn to stop drinking with professed ztrippers?

Graybeard

I don’t think it was his brains stuck anywhere. The little head doesn’t have any.

And for the record: I have not ever, nor do I ever plan to, drink anything with professed or unprofessed ztrippers (or strippers, either). (Although, in my foolish youth, some of the young ladies – whom I knew well – were amiable to entering various stages of undress in my presence, I do not consider them strippers.)

Tallywhagger

Well, if you ever change your mind and happen to be in D.C. check out Good Guys, you’ll probably get your money’s worth, at least in eye candy.

Ex-PH2

So what you’re telling us, Graybeard, is that you were considered to be one hot tamale?

Graybeard

I used the word “some” – not “all”.
And I never thought of myself as hot – although in retrospect these young ladies were quite the lookers and I’m surprised they were attracted to me at all.

PJS

How’d she get access to his pistol? Did he leave it unsecured in the room while he went down to the bar to get wasted? Maybe in the nightstand drawer next to the Gideon Bible, where the hotel staff could also have had access. Or did he sit for a few hours in the bar, armed and ready?

Graybeard

Reread: he took her back to his room and spent the night with her there.

Sj

Reading the aforementioned Gideon Bible?

Graybeard

He stopped at “It is not good for man to be alone….”

PJS

Right did he leave it in the room, and head to the bar, returning too wasted (with her) to be aware of the unsecured weapon in the room? Or did he sit in the bar with it on his hip, ordering drink after drink, returning with his little friend, where upon he then left it unsecured as he passed out? If there was a safe in the hotel room, I doubt that passes the security requirement for an unattended weapon, but it wasn’t in a safe since she managed to purloin it.

timactual

” were in Charlotte for training”

It must have been basic training, and he definitely needs to be recycled.

Sonny's Mom

She took all that stuff, but left his phone?

Eden

He didn’t make the call to police. He was too wasted.

OWB

…at least it wasn’t some more secret service guys…

this time…

that we know of…

Hack Stone

The most popular television show among Secret Service agents is The Big Bang Theory.

Hack Stone

I think that Guido The Killer Pimp May have stolen his shit for stealing Rebecca De Mornay from his stable.