And the Beat Goes On….

| August 28, 2017

Russia is nervous about the Norks? So it seems. It appears, per this Reuters article, that Russia’s somewhat doveish approach to Norkiland is not doing so well. The Russian government is continuing trade with the Norks, but in a more moderated way.  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-northkorea-trade-idUSKCN1B81BO

According to Galushka’s statement, the Russian government is sticking to the guidelines of its trade agreement with North Korea. But there is an alternative side to this, from HuffPo, which deserves a view. And once in a while, HuffPo publishes something worth looking at.

We can all view the contrasts between the two Koreas, North and South, in this series of photos by the tourist, who followed a strictly guided tour a year ago in Norkiland. It’s worth a few minutes of your time to see the contrast between the two, if you want to watch his video. His first image, of the contrast between the two Koreas at dusk, is indicative of the rest of the images he provides.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-photos_us_59a07221e4b06d67e3377f37

There are also, from South Korea’s NIS agency, indications that the Norks are going to engage in a 6th nuclear test at Punggye-ri. I don’t know how accurate CNN’s article is, but the link is here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/28/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

Stock your pantry shelves.

Category: North Korea, Nukes

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Yef

Why don’t the Norks rebel and take down that dictatorship?

Is there no one in Norkiland willing to risk the necessary sacrifices to free their country?

The Other Whitey

Starvation + brainwashing + no weapons = hopelessness.

The Dead Man

Not to mention that reporting someone for wrongthink there will probably get not just them, but their immediate family erased in addition to the other stuff.

A Proud Infidel®™

JUST HOW many fat North Koreans are there other than fatty ‘lil Kim-Cheese? It’s been said that he’s put on over 90 pounds since he inherited the dictator’s throne!

desert

His generals are so weighed down with medals, they can’t run fast enough to get away with an ass in nation attack!

Commissar

There are more instances of civil disobedience occurring in the society than under Kim’s father or grandfather. So the threat of a civil challenge to the Kim regime is much higher than ever before. This is particularly true because Kim Jong Un is both young and has acted in a way that is largely seen as distasteful to those who are aware of his behavior. Such as executing government officials that have been loyal to the regime for decades, including family members. He is doing this to destroy any potential competing power structures to consolidate his power but it is fostering resentment and mistrust. Kim is killing his family members which is anathema in Korean culture. He killed his uncle and his uncle’s entire family for instance. Kim’s grandfather (Kim Il Sung) was known to heavily reward loyalty. And while Kim Jong Il (Kim Jong Un’s father) did arrest some potential threats to his power by party officials he did it because of evidence of disloyalty. He did not do it preemptively like Kim Jong Un has. Additionally, like Kim Jong Il’s father he rewarded loyalty. So right now it is difficult for any leader to even begin to move against Kim (though I suspect it will eventually happen). As for social unrest it is difficult for the public to feel a SHARED sense of anger. There is no free media or free speech. Unsanctioned public gathering of people is prohibited. Protest is a capital offense. Anybody spreading disloyal sentiment or criticizing the Kim regime not only risk execution or imprisonment but risks his entire family being executed or imprisoned. So it is difficult for a shared sense of discontent to spread through society. People are forced to suffer their frustration, fears, and discontent alone because sharing it with others risks being arrested. The two primary ways discontent is being communicated is subversive acts of graffiti and illegal cell phones smuggled in from China. I do expect Kim’s regime to face a challenge in the next few years. There is an unprecedented number of soldiers and military officials being arrested… Read more »

Thunderstixx

You really are an expert on everything…

Ret_25X

North Korea is a true shop of horrors.

I’m sure that is the fault of some statue somewhere.

Right?

11B-Mailclerk

Most of the people there are living right on the edge of starvation. Step out of line, and your kids die of starvation.

So no logistics to support an insurrection. No guns, no food, nothing.

The threat forces are one of the most extreme police states in world history.

I am not aware of any revolution or insurrection in the last 300 years that succeeded without significant overt help from outside forces.

Roh-Dog

“Stock your pantry shelves”, allow me to add; have a store of water and/or a purification method, and get enough mass around a strong point in your house. If you have anyone that you care about under 40 years old, get some KI for them.
Hold on, protect yourselves, be prepared to fight.
BTW, broken link on CNN article(?).
https://survivalblog.com/radiation-protection-factors-f/

Roh-Dog

One and the same. Potassium Iodide helps protect the thyroid from Iodine-131. Everyone with kids should have this on-hand jic of a nuclear emergency. Don’t count on FEMA to get it to you at all. It is good for a decade plus, if kept dry and cool, costs next to nothing.

Roh-Dog

You *can* use iodine or bleach for water sterilization, on which I am not an expert (I have a chart that I’ve pulled of the ‘net, from FEMA. I haven’t tried them) KI is strictly used as a prophylactic against radioactive Iodine, use as directed.
For my money I’d have two weeks of water stored, in 5 gallon cans for portability. After 2 weeks rely on filters/boiling/treatments as they are time consuming.

11B-Mailclerk

Correct.

The “Mass around a strong point” is also fallout protection, not just bullet stopper.

Roh-Dog

Bingo. I think we’ve been lied to about how little blast will effect the average person in the US. With suburban sprawl most population is now located outside of critical infrastructure areas. The higher concern should be of fallout, especially anyone living east of the SD, WY, CO missile fields.

Roh-Dog

ND not SD and I completely neglected to mention Montana.
Hell, the big holes in the groun’ wit rockets THAT way! -points west-

11B-Mailclerk

Fallout effects of air burst single stage or crude two-stage warheads are minimal. Surface burst is much dirtier.

Now, a proper three-stage weapon, complete with large U238 tamper, is another story entirely. That same weapon surface-bursting is incredibly messy.

Their nastiest option with their known warhead technology is actually delivery by freighter, with a surface burst at slightly below sea level, upwind of a major inhabited area.

If the get a true three- stage thermonuke, they can do even more nasty fallout-producing stuff.

Of course, we can reduce the entirety of the DPRK to wasteland uninhabitable for generations, assuming we don’t mind doing major damage to the neighborhood.

So is Kim actually nuts? If so, we (or some other sane avctor) had better remove him before he further metastasisizes.

lily

“The U.S. navy and marine corps divers have now recovered the remains of all 10 USS John S.McCain sailors,” the Seventh Fleet said in a statement on its website.

The news follows the navy’s Thursday announcement that it had suspended wider search and rescue operations after finding and identifying the remains of one sailor.

The navy found the remains of missing sailors inside sealed sections of the damaged hull of the warship, which is moored at Singapore’s Changi Naval Base.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/28/us-navy-recovers-remains-of-all-sailors-missing-after-uss-mccain-collision/23187738/

lily

It’s sad that they have to lock each other into those compartments to save the ship.

Commissar

A couple decades ago I worked with a Petty Officer who had changed career fields in the Navy after ordering his best friend’s crew into a fire they both knew they were not likely survive but is was necessary to get sufficient control over the fire to allow follow a on crew to put it out before it jeopardized the entire ship.

Apparently most of his friend’s crew did survive with injuries but his friend did not.

He requested a transfer from his career field because he could not get over the look his best friend gave him knowing both believing he was essentially ordering him to die.

A Proud Infidel®™

Getting dove-ish with the Norkies sure didn’t do US any favors, remember how the mess media fawned all over “Blowjob Willie” and Jimmeh Kahtuh when they played nicey-nicey, let alone “Blowjob Willie” Clinton giving them the money and reactors with a bogus promise they wouldn’t make nuke weapons!

Poetrooper

What no one here has done, especially Lars, is to answer the video kid’s question as to why the huge differences between North and South Korea?

Of course the answer is obvious: The North is governed by a communist dictatorship patterned after Stalin’s Soviet Union while the South is a constitutional, representative democracy patterned after the United States.

See where that socialism will get you?

Commissar

Of course that is why.

Why would you need me to answer that?

How many times do I have to tell you people I am not a communist?

By the way, Poe, you are absolutely NOT a capitalist. Economic nationalism is anathema to capitalism. In fact it is the EXACT OPPOSITE of capitalism.

Communism was (incorrectly) theorized to the the inevitable consequence of capitalism; but it is not the opposite of Communism like the cold war propaganda argued.

Protectionism is the opposite of capitalism because it distorts the market in such a way that it destroys competition by using the power of the state to protect industries from competitors.

Capitalism was LITERALLY conceived in direct opposition to protectionism.

When Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations he was writing it in DIRECT OPPOSITION to the protectionism and economic nationalism that dominated Europe at the time. AND HE EXPLICITLY STATES IT IN THE WORK ITSELF.

Also, Poe, hold onto your panties; Capitalism is a LIBERAL theory. That is why it is called LIBERAL ECONOMICS.

Conservatives of the era were economic nationalists that favored protectionism. Much like you and other Trump supporters today.

Commissar

IV.2.11

To give the monopoly of the home-market to the produce of domestic industry, in any particular art or manufacture, is in some measure to direct private people in what manner they ought to employ their capitals, and must, in almost all cases, be either a useless or a hurtful regulation. If the produce of domestic can be brought there as cheap as that of foreign industry, the regulation is evidently useless. If it cannot, it must generally be hurtful. It is the maxim of every prudent master of a family never to attempt to make at home what it will cost him more to make than to buy.

Adam Smith

Commissar

Actually, rather than get in an argument about what is more opposite of what; I will concede that something conceived as the consequence of something can also be its opposite.

However, capitalism was conceived in opposition to protectionism, economic nationalism, and mercantilism.

Communism was conceived as the theoretical inevitable consequence of capitalism. It argued that the failure of capitalism would lead to communism.

In politics notions of socialism and capitalism are the leftist POLITICAL response to perceived failure of capitalism.

Fascism was conceived as a way of addressing the failures of “liberal” capitalism and also as a way to oppose leftist communist ideas.

Fascism is literally the RIGHT WING response to the perceived failures of LIBERAL GLOBALIST capitalism.

The protectionist, anti-globalist, and anti-immigrant ideas of economic nationalism is essentially fascism light. A more moderate conservative response to the failure of LIBERAL capitalism.

Capitalism is inherently and BY DEFINITION globalist.

A Proud Infidel®™

HERE YOU GO AGAIN responding to your own posts thinking you’re some damned brilliant critter while in reality you’re just BORING THE FUCK out of us most of the time.

Commissar

Don’t fucking read them then. Nitwit.

11B-Mailclerk

We get that you -like- to lecture. You just are so -awful- at it. If your goal is to inform or persuade, you almost always fail. If your goal is to show everyone how smart you think you are, that is almost always an epic fail.

Commissar

You have made it clear that you are not receptive to learning anything that you do not agree with ideologically.

That is on you. Not me.

A Proud Infidel®™

Babbles McButthead you do THE shittiest job of convincing others to see your viewpoint! I bet you look in the mirror and talk to yourself to no end as well.

Ret_25X

Their you go again…almost get it and then you throw in something you know to be false; to wit: “Fascism is literally the RIGHT WING response to the perceived failures of LIBERAL GLOBALIST capitalism”

Fascism is correctly called national socialism (vice the international brand championed by the Soviets). The war between the socialist empires had nothing at all to do with “left wing vs right wing”. WW2 was about what form of socialism would be the dominant force in the world. Hitler and Stalin both lost but national socialism was the big winning “ism” of the 20th century.

Every nation, everywhere is somewhere on a national socialism journey and that cannot be separated from what is mistakenly called fascism. Using “democratic” means to form coercion does not change the coercion, only the perception of who it is being used on.

The “right wing” adjective is an American invention used to fool the foolish. There is nothing “right wing” about socialism or fascism. In fact, there is nothing “right wing” about nationalism either, but that is another issue.

The US “won” the war for national socialism and has been fascistic since. No surprise because the US was never a “capitalist” nation, just a nation that allowed it for a while.

Socialists in the west have been trying to pretend that fascism is not of the left since their beloved USSR was attacked by their boy in Berlin in 1941. They all loved them some Hitler before then–and loved them some fascists afterward. Think we “won” the space race on our own?

Ret_25X

BTW…in case you missed this, mercantilism is not capitalism…it is national socialism.

Thought you should know that Adam Smith was the first anti-socialism economist in case you missed that in his lengthy and somewhat disorderly set of essays we now call a book.

Commissar

Mercantilism is neither capitalism or national socialism.

It is mercantilism.

Though national socialism does borrow some of the premises and protectionist notions of mercantilism.

Primarily national socialism was influenced by Friedrich List who advocated a form of economic nationalism that is very similar to what Trump seems to be hinting at.

And just to be clear; national socialism is not socialism or even a form of socialism. Though the fact that socialism is in the name is causes confusion.

National Socialism really was about instilling intense and unified nationalism in german society with all aspect os the society focused on creating national strength, and economic and industrial power. The socialism was describing the unity and purity of focus of society toward national strength.

It had nothing to do with socialism.