China strengthens North Korean border defense

| July 26, 2017

According to Business Insider, China appears to be expecting trouble from their North Korean neighbors;

A report from The Wall Street Journal says that China has established a new border-defense brigade, implemented 24-hour video surveillance of the border, and constructed bunkers to protect from possible nuclear or chemical attacks.

China conducted a live-fire drill in June and July with helicopter gunships and armored infantry units, including a simulated battle with artillery, tanks, and helicopters, according to The Journal. The nature of these military exercises goes beyond securing a border, and they mimic fighting a nuclear-armed adversary.

While China and North Korea exist on paper as allies, Sim Tack, an expert on North Korea at Stratfor, a geopolitical-analysis firm, previously told Business Insider that China would not likely defend Pyongyang from a US-led attack and instead try to prevent or dissuade the US from taking such a step.

Seein’s how the North Koreans have thousands of conventional artillery pieces pointed at Seoul, South Korea, on a hair trigger, an unprovoked US invasion seems unlikely.

From CNN;

The North Korea border region is a highly strategic one for China, and has seen conflict during World War II and the Korean War, but one of Beijing’s chief concerns is not military forces pouring across the border, but refugees.

Yeah, I’d be worried about a couple of million grass-eaters who decide to graze on my land, too.

Earlier this year, the Chinese state-run tabloid Global Times warned “if the North Korean nuclear issue boils over, a war on the peninsula is unavoidable.”

“The war will bring more risks than the tough sanctions on Pyongyang could to China,” the paper said in an editorial.

“If China does not tackle the conundrum now, it will face more difficult choices in the future.”

Thanks to David for the tip.

Category: North Korea

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ChipNASA

Looks like NDtBF had a little poopie in his drawers.
/Sad!

Green Thumb

Nah.

He just got a whiff of a steaming pile of Phil Monkrerss.

Can you actually blame him?

Ex-PH2

The response to that photograph is as follows:

Hey, Fatboy! He who smelt it, dealt it!

Green Thumb

Hopefully it will never come to that but I would be curious to see how many of the North Korean Conventional Forces would either lay down or cut and run.

A Proud Infidel®™

Hard to tell, let’s not forget that they’ve been brainwashed from birth to worship the Kim dynasty.

USMC Steve

True enough, but how long can one fight with no food to sustain the forces?

Green Thumb

Yeah.

Toss in what appears to be a serious leadership vacuum and it might make for an interesting (if not deadly) quandary.

SFC D

First thing the Nork Army will do is raid the Yongsan Commissary.

A Proud Infidel®™

That is if “Slicky Boy” doesn’t clean it out first!

Ex-PH2

I said a couple months ago that the Chinese army was moving troops and medical people and equipment to the Nork-China border, numbering about 250,000 total back then.

This doesn’t surprise me, but I still wonder what IS going on there.

Poetrooper

The Chinese are sending Junior a message,”Quit screwing around with our biggest trading partner or we’re gonna let them mash you like a bug.”

The Chinese troops are there to let him know they won’t be taking any of his refugees.

desert

Someone, whether it be the US, China, Japan, or ?? needs to sneak in, blow the shyt out of phat boyz house and resort…bet he would shut his phat face then! Expecially if he was IN the house or resort…..GOOD RIDDANCE!

David

I suspect the Chinese are playing the long game… they know that they essentially have no firm hold on the Norks and that if Kim launches a strike on us or an ally, escalation is guaranteed. Brainwashed or not, a pretty significant number of Norks would probably think it a good idea to un-ass NK – China sure as hell doesn’t need 10 million ill-educated peasants, they have an ample supply of their own.

Fyrfighter

We constantly hear about all the artillery aimed at Seoul, so I’ve got a question for those on the board that have served in that part of the world, or have better knowledge of such things (since I don’t), since we know all about this artillery, don’t our forces have a pretty good idea of where it is, and have it zeroed for counter-battery or air-strikes? It seems that just because it exists now, doesn’t mean that it would 10 min after hostilities began.
Am I wrong? Thanks for the replies!

David

Not an arty guy but I would think the sheer numbers of Nork artillery pieces would make counter-battery difficult…. maybe our guys could take out 1000 pieces in a couple of minutes, but when the Norks claim thousands more… there could be a lot of damage pretty quickly. Kind of reminds me of the fall of Berlin, when Zhukov ringed the city with something like 21 artillery DIVISIONS. Must have been a good day to be elsewhere.

USMC Steve

This also presupposes they all work. We have no way of knowing how good all this country’s gear is.

Hack Stone

If you don’t PM your gear, you can’t have any boom. How can you have any boom if you don’t PM your gear?

Pat

A lot of NK arty is on tracks and in caves within mountains. Not a simple task to destroy them with shock and awe before a lot of civilians are killed.

A Proud Infidel®™

There is also a fair share of ROK Artillery set up like that as well as pre -set fighting positions and Mortar pits. I remember my 1SG Welcome Briefing when I was a wet-behind-the-ears Joe fresh from OSUT training, his words were “Welcome to Korea, right now in Garrison we are about 2 1/2 miles south of the Southern Tier of the DMZ. In the event of a North Korean attack, they would begin with a huge artillery barrage in which case your life expectancy and mine would be about fourteen seconds, you’re assigned to Second Platoon, now keep your shit straight and have a nice tour!”.

Fyrfighter

Gotcha. I knew folks here would have better info for me, and I just can’t bring myself to believe the hype of the media, so thanks again!

Deplorable B Woodman

Sad Panda…….

Pat

The surveillance is likely to detect and return NK defectors trying to reach freedom. An entire family of five recently committed suicide rather than go back. More should be done to push outside information to NK, as regime change will need to come from within. http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/24/family-of-five-north-korean-defectors-arrested-in-china-takes-cyanide-to-avoid-being-sent-home/

USMC Steve

Most likely another tinpot little crapass would just take the reins, until they run out of that sort.

A Proud Infidel®™

I’m sure the Chicoms want to do all they can to pressure ‘lil Kim-Cheese into staying put and shutting up because they don’t want their border there being a gateway to part of the free world.