Something To Chew On After Fireworks….
The history of the Sears & Roebuck catalog is here: http://www.searsarchives.com/catalogs/history.htm
First published in 1888, it evolved into the ‘everything’ catalog. House plans and kits were introduced in 1930. Mail order chickens were also introduced in 1930, and other farm animals, too, such as draft horses and riding horses and equipment..Any kind of livestock came directly from the breeder, through Sears and Ward’s. You could literally order anything available from these companies. This was the post-Civil War era, which is also referred to as the Gilded Age.
This article on the US economy prior to and during WWI http://eh.net/encyclopedia/u-s-economy-in-world-war-i/ includes info on taxes, what they covered and how high they went, in regard to real income in 1916.
If there was a mild recession prior to WWI, was it truly ended by the US entry into the war in Europe, with the US government raising cash through the newly-created Federal Reserve? That was followed by a rapidly rising economy, a regular boom-time post-war job market, and a massive implosion in 1929 in the stock market (and there were warnings about it well ahead of the Crash).
The question comes up logically: does what happened 90 to 100 years ago parallel the present?
Financial markets everywhere crashed eleven years after the end of WWI. It sent economies everywhere into a downward spiral that took up to 10 years to recover, but was it prefaced by the US government’s bolstering increased production, including energy production, for WWI? Note that WWI was the first time mechanized artillery (tanks) and aerial bombing (two-seater airplanes) were used. If energy production supports, boosts, and/or parallels a rising economy, that could explain the boom-bust cycle that began after WWI and ended in the fall of 1929.
I think there is a parallel here, but it’s not quite as plain as the most recent government bailouts have been. The probability is that, with this predicted recession looming, we’ll see a long, slow slide into it everywhere, including Europe, the UK, China, Japan, and Russia.
Can it be falsely propped up by another global war? And should that be done? In our current, very peculiar political and economic climate, it might be a bad idea. Aside from ISIS, which is crumbling now, and a bunch of unwashed lefties, who is a tangible enemy?
When energy prices/consumption/production drop too low for producers to sustain employment, flagging recession and lost jobs/wages follow. The original article is at Gail Tyverberg’s blog: https://ourfiniteworld.com/2017/07/02/the-next-financial-crisis-is-not-far-away/
From Tyverberg’s article: “In fact, affordability is the key issue. When the world economy is stimulated by more debt, only a small part of this additional debt makes its way back to the wages of non-elite workers. With greater global competition in wages, the wages of these workers tend to stay low. The limited demand of these workers tends to keep commodity prices, especially oil prices, from rising very high, for very long.” Plainly, bailouts are simply more debt.
In plain words, an increase in energy production is directly tied to jobs, wages, and a rising economy. Major warfare includes increased energy production. ‘Stimulated by more debt’ refers to government bailouts, engineered to artificially prevent economic crises from occurring.
From Bloomberg News: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-30/china-still-poses-a-risk-as-source-of-the-next-u-s-recession
China’s debt load is considerably higher than that of the US at 250%. This is supported by the following article from Market Watch, back in March 2017: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-where-the-next-financial-crisis-is-lurking-2017-03-20
Quote from Market Watch article: “ China’s national and provincial governments have subsidized inefficient state-owned enterprises and exporters with easy credit and propped up growth through excessive borrowing for wasteful public works and urbanization projects. Government deficits are estimated at least 15% of gross domestic product, and cumulative public and private debt at 250%.”
From Anne Pettifor, back in January 2017: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-economy-economists-predict-financial-crash-recession-2008-michael-fish-austerity-cant-solve-a7513416.html
Basically, the problems that caused the 2009 financial market crash and recession were not repaired or erased. They were blunted and bandaged by government bailouts. They still exist and will cause another recession. If we view this correctly, precisely the same signs that should have alerted people to a coming financial crisis in the mid-2000s are showing up again.
New home construction has returned to the overpriced McMansion state; rents in large cities such as New York and Chicago have skyrocketed; public transit fares have increased substantially; local taxes have increased as well. Food prices in large cities, e.g., Chicago, have risen not just because of production, location, and transportation costs, but also because taxes on products have risen. This is why I shop where I can get better prices for the same products I’d buy at larger chains. I notice in the sale papers that Jewel, which is owned by Albertsons, has dropped its prices on some produce items – but not all – and cut full-time jobs to part-time only, back in 2009, when the market crash occurred.
Bailouts were the answer then, but we simply cannot afford bailouts and handouts any more. Those are a huge mistake that will cause more financial harm than anything else, including the predicted loss of funds in the Social Security Trust Fund and the constant manipulations of military retirement pay and veterans’ benefits, among other things.
The symptoms of a coming recession are clear. They are the same as they were in the 2000s, and are being ignored by the general public, by people who should have learned the first time around, but apparently did not. If this looming recession is exacerbated by the ignorant silliness of demands for higher wages by low-level labor, those people may find themselves out of work all over again and other people will find themselves using whatever savings they may have set aside, solely to pay the bills and put food on the table.
The mordant idiot spendthrift who was in the White House for eight years had more than enough time to solve the problem, but did not. He left it for the next sucker to get the job, and probably snorted with laughter on the way out the door, so I blame him for this next financial crisis. Frankly, I don’t think he gave a damn.
Whatever is going to happen is going to be a long, slow slide and it won’t be just us. The UK is also facing it, thanks to Gordon Brown’s ineptitude. Europe has had Merkel to drag it down into the mud with her dimwitted policies. China, as I said above is, quite frankly, in worse financial trouble than the US and may have no way to get out of it.
And the Queen Bee of financial stupidity? Venezuela. What has happened down there was inexcusable, but as Pettifor says, it was driven by ideology and stupidity, not by a sense of how to manage money and prepare for a financial crisis.
Boom is always followed by a bust.
Trump will get blamed for this mess, of course, even though it was not of his making. It will take too long to correct Da Stupid Mistakes that were made before he was elected. They could have been resolved by his predecessor and were not, because social justice policies and bailouts were more important, no matter how damaging they may be in the long run, to future generations.
The same thing holds true in all other countries that will be affected by this. As I indicated at the beginning of this article, it was the United States’ entry into the War in Europe that stimulated the US economy by the creation of the Federal Reserve, and the use of an account for the US government to withdraw funding to pay for war materiel production and wages, which included increased energy production. It was a government-sponsored economic boom early in the 20th century, funded by borrowed money to the tune of $40 billions.
Unfortunately, that boom faded and a panic and crash followed in 1929, which fed into a worldwide economic Depression that drove Germany and the rest of the world into the same financial crisis now going on in Venezuela and beginning to show itself elsewhere. The United States’ entry into World War II followed on the heels of government-sponsored work programs, e.g., CCC, PWA, and WPA.
World War II was bad enough. Was it the last War of Conquerors? Do we cascade into warfare to solve this problem?
It appears that we may be heading in that direction.
Category: Economy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
Recessions are pretty cylical and politically agnostic. If there was an infinite indefinite growth button politicians could push, they would.
Post-WW2 average has been 7.5 years, so we’re overdue. My gamble is this one will be triggered by student loan debt.
Don’t forget the housing market nonsense – the banks are back to their nonsense concerning mortgages, specifically subprime mortgages:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-15/subprime-mortgage-back-its-2008-all-over-again
Also, the number of nonbank lenders in the market could be a factor in another housing bubble burst:
http://time.com/money/4289171/subprime-lending-return/
Personally, I’d be a bit skeptical of the Zero Hedge story. While it’s true there was some abuse of the system by NINJA (no job, no income, no assets) consumers, the main problem was probably more one of some truly sleazy financial traders gaming the system with CDO and CDS toxic derivatives. In a just world, some of those people should have gone to jail.
Where the NINJAs became an issue, at least it seems to me, wasn’t exactly that they didn’t have any money. It was more that if a property went into foreclosure it took a lot of time and money to get a deadbeat out. It was also common for properties to suffer serious damage by those getting shown the door.
I’m also sort of baffled by the current jihad against so-called McMansions. Some of it often seems to be more related to either latent urbanista jealousy, or pissiness by amateur architectural critics than anything else. The average single-family dwelling being put up now is around 2500 square feet. That compares to around 1100 square feet in the mid-1950s which most builders would probably agree tended to be too small for livability. Trying to shove three bedrooms into such a footprint simply didn’t work very well.
Our house was built in the 1920s, had 1237 square feet and a 3/4 acre yard. 4 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms, basement, attic, LR, DR, kitchen with side porch, screened front porch, pantry, and back porch.
2 parents, 3 kids and a dog.
Plenty of room.
Not the size that counts, but what you do with it.
I’ve seen that, too, and that’s exactly my point, Senior Chief. What part of ‘don’t do that’ did they decide was worth ignoring.
This is becoming very worrisome.
I would say the Federal Reserve bears much of the blame for our 20th century woes.
I was also, I must add, disappointed that the Sears mail-order catalog was not the primary subject of this post. 🙂 I have to wonder why Sears, Roebuck,and Co. have had so many financial woes when they flipping created the mail-order business. You could consider them the Amazon of the late 19th century.
Note that according to the linked history, Sears stopped publishing their catalog in 1993. Missed it by that much. The internet, that is.
One would think someone in that company would say “Hey, we practically invented the whole order by mail system, so we don’t we go back to one of our strengths, but 21st-century style?”
Yeah, I added that part, because Sears & Roebuck had so many innovative marketing options that they appealed to everyone, and everyone could afford what they offered. Some of those kit homes are still around and lived in.
I have seen several articles about major retails chains that own several brand names starting to close their stores. Ascena, for example, owns Dress Barn and Anne Taylor and Anne Taylor Loft, Lane Bryant. Likewise, teen-oriented clothing shops are closing.
The traffic at big malls is leaching away, also, as online shopping takes its place. I don’t even get catalogs any more, unless I specifically request one.
Obama didn’t cause what’s getting ready to happen, and it’s not Trump’s fault that he won’t be able to fix it. I’m no economist, but I’d say debt and welfare are our two biggest woes. The end result is that you end up spending every extra dollar to cover the interest on the debt. Welfare? It should never have become a governmental structure, but stayed at the local and regional level only. Welfare is like an addictive drug, and nobody who is addicted to something functions well at all, except to obtain more of their “drug.” Our government is just as used to borrowed money as the average citizen with multiple credit cards in their wallet; so are most private organizations. And just like with other things we’ve discussed here, I have no answer for these problems. The fact is, no one does. That’s why these problems still exist.
No, Obama didn’t create the mess. It was underway long before he even ran for office. But he had a long, wide open opportunity to fix what was broken and he didn’t. He left it for someone else to clean up.
At this point, I don’t think he even knew how to fix it, and now, we’re right back where we left off.
Is there any chance the symptoms you are seeing are due to the technological shift to a full online economy driven by the exponential growth in the increasingly digitalised sector of our economy in accordance with Moore’s Law of double performance every 18 months?
Dam. I can’t speak english.
My grammar sux ballz.
The real problem is that what should have been fixed before Trump took office was not fixed or even addressed, which means that we’re coming right back where we were in 2009. But take a look at how shopping for material goods developed. Sears had the first general merchandise catalog. Montgomery Ward followed with their own version of it. Both were successful because they reached a wider audience that stores located in cities could reach, and gave something ‘extra’ to the rural and small-town populations. Mom & Pop shops, specialized or otherwise, started up in the early days of the Industrial Revolution, long ago, and were the basis for what became a thriving economy in the 18th and 19th centuries. The small shops like those were where you went to get bread and baked goods, vegs and fruit – stuff like that. Try to find a stand-alone butcher shop now. They exist, but are hard to find, however, because of the internet and a wider reach, they may be returning. The giant shopping mall was a development of the 1970s, nearly killed off neighborhood businesses, and left empty town centers almost everywhere. Walmart has replaced what used to be the general store, hardware stores have replaced dry goods stores, tailors have been replaced by dry cleaners and menswear/womens wear shops. You see where I’m going with this, right? Come to the present day, and the giant shopping mall is losing tenants because the cost of rent at XXX location, plus hiring clerks and customer assistants, is overrunning the bottom dollar. The mall outlet is more expensive than a website and online access by potential customers, and it isn’t even necessary to hire order takers/CSRs because electronic confirmations are quick. It does not mean that Mom & Pop shops are dead. There are plenty of specialty shops and restaurants that have sprung up in neighborhoods, occupying empty storefronts. The problem with losing shopping malls is loss of jobs and wages. That leads to loss of tax revenues for local municipalities. And what happens to those giant malls when all the businesses… Read more »
The Sears catalog got me thru my puberty. Enough said……
The Aldens catalog was way, way better than Sears or Monkey Wards, especially the Spring/Summer editions.
I know Aldens was mostly a Midwest oriented venture, but it doesn’t take much to keep farm kids (especially boys) entertained./smile
National Geographic.
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Wow, ok where to begin… Firstly the Zero Hedge Doomers have been saying the economy is going to really… really… super implode every year for the last eight years. They look at certain things that may or may not have to do with the economy crashing. But they are not normally right. Secondly a number of conditions that caused the crash have drastically changed. One of the biggest causes of the stock market crash was the repeal of the Uptick Rule. The evidence is absolutely glaring. Following a 90 day pattern of stock market drops (due to 90 day option trading) from the repeal of the rule until it’s reinstatement is overwhelming evidence. Computers are amazing things and were able to maximize this exploit to it’s fullest. If it had not been reinstated we would probably be looking at a DOW of 2000 today not 20000. Rich stock market manipulators became supper rich. Another huge reason the economy was in dire straights was the cost of energy. The US economy is heavily petro dependent. Oil was up to WTF prices. In June 2008 it was the highest inflation adjusted price in world history. The US economy ALWAYS goes in to recession when oil becomes heavily inflated. When oil started creeping back up again in 2010-11 due to idiotic energy policies of “O” we had a nice double dip. Well, we don’t have to worry about that anymore. Oil is about in the “normal” range for solid growth in the US. With cheap shale oil in our future and the US now moving in to second place in world production (with eyes on first) and a supply that stretches in to hundreds of years, cheap oil is the future unless the government screws it up. Cheap energy with a surplus being sold on the world market. I’m over simplifying here but the housing market crapped because banks were enticed and sometimes ordered by the government in to making bad loans. The secondary market lost faith in the home lending market due to a series of deceptive practices in the secondary market… Read more »
I didn’t say nothing had changed. I said the behavior that caused the last implosion and recession has been repeated. The same signals are as plain as day. If, as someone else indicated, subprime lending has returned, then the previous lesson was not learned.
Likewise, I did not use Zero Hedge as a reference, as they simply copied Tyberberg’s article because it suits their viewpoint. I preferred to use the original. My references were more appropriate than an online pulp magazine.
I read:
“Basically, the problems that caused the 2009 financial market crash and recession were not repaired or erased. They were blunted and bandaged by government bailouts. They still exist and will cause another recession.”
This is not true. A lot of things have changed as I noted.
Subprime lending never went away. We have actually always had subprime lending. The problems with the subprime market were many:
– Misrepresentation in the secondary market of subprime loans
– Failed government social engineering that encouraged lending practices that treated subprime loans as regular loans.
– Liberalization of certain lending laws that expanded the subprime market beyond what was absorbable by the market.
All of the above combined to create a highly inflationary housing market. When millions of new consumers entered the housing market unexpectedly inflation was the only possible result.
The inflationary market exacerbated the problem greatly as it distorted the value of properties and therefore distorted what a sound loan would be.
Tyverberg is a Zero Hedge favorite. I am not saying that everything posted is crap, just that it pervades a certain narrative that Zero Hedge like to push. Her views on the energy market are… original. But IMO lack a understanding as to what is going on from a big picture standpoint.
I think we’re arguing the same points, Old Maj.
My concern was and is how this is heading us toward another recession, and a longer event that will be worse than the previous recession caused by the same heedlessness that caused the previous event. China did not carry the debt load it carries now at that time. So where does this leave us?
My own experience led me to pay off and cancel all credit cards, and go on a cash basis. I don’t know what other people are doing, but loss of jobs at places like the shopping malls is one of many symptoms of pending recession.
Shopping malls are disappearing all together. They are a relic of the pre-internet age and a time when women stayed home, took care of the house and had time to go leisure shopping during the day.
Those days are gone forever.
The big mall in our city was recently torn down and now has a huge construction project on it. The new project is not a mall.
Okay, if we’re going to get nostalgic, I can remember going to the movies on Saturday for $.25 (a quarter) and getting an ice cream soda or a Coke float afterwards for $.15. Popcorn at the movies was $.10 and a Snickers was also a nickel. Hot dogs and potato chips were not bad for you, processed meat didn’t make you fat or give you cancer, and sugar cost $.55/lb.
I found my mother’s old Better Homes & Gardens 1953 cookbook. I will test the old recipes against the same recipes in my newer version (2010). This should be interesting.
I remember a movie ticket costing 75 cents and a Big Mac costing eighty cents with my Dad cussing that the burger cost too much.
It is funny. I was brought in by Soup Sandwich and posts like this keep me coming back to lurk around.
Happy 4th!
“Boom is always followed by a bust”
Or small arms fire.
Haha! I own a ‘Sears Home’ in Cold Lake Alberta! Will sell cheap 😉
Anyone ever been there for Maple Flag?
It’s a lovely place….😲
Chock full of RigPigs, Native Cdns, Military personnel, and other undesirables…. 😉