Urban Miyares; embellished tales

The folks at a Facebook group of veterans who served with 6/31st Infantry of the 9th Division in Vietnam asked us to help them sort through the stories of Urban Miyares, a soldier who served with them briefly in 1968. Miyares tells the story that when he arrived in Vietnam, he felt ill, but his leadership thought that he was malingering. They sent him out on a combat operation, during which he collapsed. While he was passed out, his whole unit was wiped out. He claims that he was put in a body bag and he was discovered by an alert medic in Lai Khe two days later. He regained consciousness two days after that. He was diagnosed with diabetes and subsequently medevaced to the United States where he was discharged.

That’s the story that you can find all of the internet, here, for example.

His records support much of the story. He was a “shake and bake 90-day-wonder” NCO and sent to Vietnam, assigned to 6/31st after orientation. This is what the fellows of that unit had to say about his records;

We were successful in obtaining the portion of your military records that is available via the Freedom of Information Act. The information provided is as follows:

Aug 1967: Service Date
6 Oct 1967: Graduated Basic Training, Ft Jackson, SC
15 Dec 1967: Graduated AIT, Ft Polk, LA
17 April 1968: Graduated NCOC, Ft Benning, GA
20 April 1968: Assigned as Sqd Leader (OJT), Ft Polk, LA
26 July 1968: Assigned as Team Leader, Alpha Company, 6/31st, 9th Infantry Division.
23 Aug 1968: Enroute to CONUS, VA Hospital, Phoenixville, PA.
27 Dec 1968: Discharge Date

The group checked with the leadership of the unit on his story;

You mentioned that when you were first assigned to Alpha Company, you were ill and that the company commander thought that you were malingering. [Note: In talking to the Alpha Company Commander, he stated that he does not remember ever having an NCO with this problem, and, that if he had, he would not have forgotten it.] After you were finally assigned to your platoon, you stated that on your 2nd day in the field you experienced a diabetic coma as you were inserted into a firefight in which your entire platoon was wiped out. You were then found by medics, thought dead, and placed in a body bag, only to be later found alive by a medic at Lai Khe. Note: In your email to me, you stated that no one ever actually told you that you had been placed in a body bag, and that this incident was arrived at in 2004 when you heard of a medic (Brian) in Lai Khe who had found a person alive in a body bag, and, after talking to the medic, this seemed to explain the 2 days that you could not account for between when you were inserted into the firefight and when you awoke in the Saigon hospital. While in the hospital, you were told that you were the only survivor from your platoon. In one account you say that the Alpha Company Clerk told you, while you were in the hospital in Saigon, but in another you say that you were told by a 9th Division soldier while in the hospital in Japan. In your email to me, you stated that it was an unknown 9th Division soldier who told you, while you were in the hospital in Japan.

Over a period of several weeks, we were finally able to contact and talk to the following men who were in Alpha during the ~17 days that you were assigned to Alpha Company: the Commanding Officer, the 1st Sergeant, the Company Clerk, the Company Supply Clerk, the Ranking Company Medic, as well as 3 men who were inserted on Aug 7, 1968 when the only Alpha men (3) were KIA’ed during the month of August 1968. Unfortunately none of these men remember you, or the incident that you describe as occurring on Aug 12. These men not remembering you, as well as you not remembering anyone from Alpha Company should not be considered unusual as it appears that you were assigned to Alpha Company for such a short time, and assigned to a platoon for only 2 days before being medevac’d out of the field; however, a surprising thing that our phone calls did uncover is that, per the 1st Sergeant, your name does “not” appear on any of the Alpha Company rosters, that he still has in his possession, for the entirety of 1968. The omission of your name on all of these rosters could only be explained by one of the following two conditions: (1) The 1st Sergeant has somehow misplaced a roster, which he says is not the case, or (2) You were assigned to Alpha Company after completion of your two week in-country training at The Reliable Academy; however, you were medevac’d to Saigon with your diabetic condition prior to actually reporting in to Alpha Company. Note: Since no one in Alpha Company remembers you, and since your name is not on any of the Alpha Company rosters, this seems to be a strong possibility. This would also align to what you were saying about you not being assigned to a unit for several weeks, due to your health problems. In other words, while you were ill, instead of reporting into Alpha Company, you may have remained at The Reliable Academy. Once your health condition permitted, you may have gone out on an in-country field training exercise with The Reliable Academy personnel, and during this training operation, you fell into a diabetic coma and were medevac’d to Saigon for treatment.

Please understand that in no way do I believe that you intended to intentionally mislead anyone. I realize that you were ill and that the entire ~6 weeks that you spent in Vietnam is very unclear in your mind. You do need to understand, however, that many 6/31st combat vets, especially your fellow “Shake and Bake” sergeants (me being one) see many “red flags” as they read your comments and/or listen to your speaking engagements. In addition, your story changes slightly from speaking engagement to speaking engagement. I will detail, below, some concerns with several of your statements:

(1) That you served as a Drill Sergeant while at Fort Polk. As an NCOC graduate, while at Fort Polk, per your military records, you were actually serving as an OJT Squad Leader, and not as a Drill Sergeant.
(2) That prior to being assigned to your permanent platoon, you served as a squad leader, platoon sergeant, and/or platoon leader, in a number of different units, to cover for men who were temporarily out of the field for various reasons. Note: I served in the field, for 9 months, as the platoon sergeant of Delta Company, 6/31st, 3rd platoon and what you have stated would never have occurred in a combat unit, especially with a raw E5 straight from NCOC. Replacements were covered by temporarily moving men up from within the platoon. A “stranger “would not be acquainted with the men in the platoon as to their duty assignments, weaknesses and strengths, nor would they understand the standard operating procedures within the platoon.
(3) Your platoon was wiped out on Aug 12, 1968: During the Vietnam War, the 6/31st “never” lost an entire platoon. The most being 6 men from 1st platoon, Delta Company, on January 12 – 13, 1969. Alpha Company lost no men on Aug 12, 1968. Their only loss in August was 3 men KIA’ed on Aug 7, 1968.
(4) You were placed into a body bag and found alive 2 days later in Lai Khe. As stated earlier, you said that you “arrived” at this incident in order to explain 2 missing days from when you were inserted into the firefight and when you awoke in the hospital in Saigon.
Several concerns here:
• You mentioned that both you and the medic (Brian) wondered how you could have ended up at Lai Khe, and the answer is “You could not have”. Lai Khe was part of the 1st Division area of operation (AO) and well outside the 6/31st_9th Division AO. You would never have been taken to Lai Khe. Depending upon your condition, you would have been taken to either Tan An, Dong Tam or Saigon.
• Per our 6/31st medics, with the heat and humidity in our AO, there is no way that a person in a diabetic coma could have survived 2 days in a body bag. In addition, as soon as a body bag arrived at the morgue, the body was placed in refrigeration to prevent decomposition. Thus, the Lai Khe medic probably did find a live person just prior to placing the body into refrigeration, but that person could not have been you.
• Additionally, if by some miracle this incident had occurred, Alpha Company would have been notified in order for them to modify their casualty list. Per the Alpha chain of command, this never happened, and, if it had, they would never have forgotten about it.
(5) Alpha Company Clerk telling you, while you were in the hospital in Saigon, that you were the only survivor from your platoon. The Company Clerk said that he never traveled to Saigon to tell anyone that his platoon had been wiped out. Again, in an email to me, you stated that an unknown 9th Division soldier told you this while you were in the hospital in Japan.
(6) Your health issues possibly resulting from exposure to Agent Orange. This is very doubtful since you were in the field only 2 days.
(7) You routinely delayed mail call until your platoon’s operations were over in order to not have a man going to the field after possibly receiving a distressing letter from home. Again, you were assigned to your platoon for only ~ 2 days, most likely serving as a Team Leader within a squad. You would, therefore, not have had the authority to delay anyone’s mail call. In fact, only the Platoon Leader would have been authorized to delay mail call.

Based upon the information above, we believe that:

1. You were not placed in a body bag. Our guess is that you were probably medevac’d from the field due to what the medic initially thought to be either a heat stroke or heat exhaustion. This was not an uncommon occurrence with new men who had not yet adjusted to the heat and humidity of the Delta.
2. Upon arrival at the Saigon hospital, it was finally determined that you were suffering from a severe diabetic condition, and treated accordingly. Note: The two days that you state were “missing” were probably due to a combination of your body recovering from the initial shock of the diabetic incident and the medication that you had been given upon your arrival at the hospital.
3. After it was determined that you were severely diabetic, you were shipped from Saigon to Japan and later to a medical hospital in the USA where you stayed until you were discharged from the service.

Urban, I understand that this may or may not be the information that you were hoping for in order to be able to expand upon your Vietnam experience for your biography; however, I am afraid that this is what we have arrived at after many, many hours of reading, listening, calling, emailing, etc. Based on these findings, in your future speaking engagements and interviews, we would think that you would want to discontinue speaking about your platoon being wiped out, and of you being placed into a body bag, because it is clear that these incidents did not occur.

Miyares’ response to their research;

I want to thank you and all the others so much for filling in many pieces to what happened and may have happened. This is just great, and it addresses quite a bit.

There are a couple of items I truly question, but they are really incidental…I only had hoped that someone, from the last platoon I was with, was around to just talk to them/him about what he had remembered of my time with them.

Guaranteed my public speaking and telling about Vietnam will not include what others had told me, as I’ve always felt most uncomfortable in telling this story (which first began publicly in 1995), as I had no proof of what actually happened with me being sick prior to passing out in the field.

Hopefully the dreams will subside with this information as this is the first validation of what probably happened, and I can sure live with it. So sad I didn’t know this years ago, as it’s been baggage I’ve been carrying for a long time.

Again…cant’ thank you enough for all your work and persistence with this matter; it now makes drafting my autobiography so miuch easier.
,
Urban

So, why are we concerned with this story since it seems to be resolved? The story just seems too good to be corrected. Here’s a video of an interview that Urban did earlier this month and he’s still telling it to supplement his business plan three years after he was made aware of the facts of his story;

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures