Ladner trial update
According to the folks at Fox5 Atlanta, things are not going well for self-proclaimed war hero, Shane Ladner in a Cherokee County, Georgia courtroom. The prosecution hosted the testimony of the commander of regional operations where Ladner claimed to have been wounded, his unit commander and the commander of medical operations for the region.
“We had no combat operations conducted out of our facility. Classified or unclassified,” retired brigadier general John Walsh flatly stated. “They didn’t exist.”
Walsh was an Army colonel commanding Joint Task Force Bravo in Honduras in January 1991 when Private First Class Shane Ladner arrived to be a military police officer.
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“When I was the commander of Joint Task Force Bravo, we never conducted combat operations of any sort of kind,” he told the jury. “No counter-narcotics operations. It wasn’t even part of our mission.”
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Colonel Percy Dunagin commanded all medical operations on the Honduran base during the time Ladner says he was wounded.
He testified his people never handled any wounded soldiers.
“No,” Dr. Dunagin stressed. “Never.”
Dr. Roland Weiser commanded medical operations in the second half of 1991. When asked about the possibility his hospital treated a combat wounded soldier that year, he said “no,” then answering the question more like drill sergeant than doctor, “I said I thought it was bulls—.”
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Investigators even found Ladner’s battalion commander from that time. Retired Colonel Walter Wright said no one got a Purple Heart while he was there.
“If someone had been awarded a Purple Heart, would it have been important for you to know?” asked assistant district attorney Zachary Smith.
“It would have been important and it would have been rare.”
Ladner faces six counts of defrauding the Georgia Department of Motor Vehicles with this forged DD214 in order to save a couple of bucks of licensing fees for his car;
The Army has no record of the award of the Purple Heart, according to the Freedom of Information Act release of his records and his NGB-22 National Guard discharge record;
Fox5 speculates that the prosecution could wrap up it’s case today, then the real entertainment begins as Team Ladner defends him.
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
Ass gasket….
Waiting for Ex-OS2 here…
damn, beat me to it
Cocksucker.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
meh….ex-OS2, what are your thoughts on the matter?
Still a cocksucker.
And another
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
I may be late to the party, but I must say I’m a little surprised that investigators would go to the lengths of rounding up three C.O.s from his old unit just to dispute a claim on his department of motor vehicles form. I suspect I’m missing something.
Nonetheless, I’m encouraged by it all if they are going after the purple heart claim.
Yeah, it’s shocking when a prosecutor actually does his job. Truth be told, I suspect that this prosecutor knows the whole Ladner story and it’s payback time.
I think it just goes to show that not only did he fuck up, but he done fucked up bad. They are willing to be witnesses to the contrary.
I’d be curious what kind of questions the defense would actually ask them. Or just, “no questions for this witness your honor.”
Here’s the answer, Daisy Cutter. It’s from a 2013 local story:
“Since the accident, the Ladners have received a groundswell of support from the Holly Springs, Hickory Flat, and Cherokee County communities. From simple prayers to financial contributions, thousands of people across the area have done what they could to help the Ladners through this difficult time.”
Ladner is being prosecuted in the county where he served as a police officer and from which he rec’d all of that community support. Yeah, it’s payback time.
And it’s about time all those well meaning citizens got their pay back! I remember the fund raiser in Buckhead around Christmas…they even have him on camera whimpering about how he could never pay these people back for what they have done for Meg and him…..well now you can Shame. Take it from Bubba behind bars!!!! Karma…..
I think that they have him up against 6 or 7 felonies at this point, with 10-20 years in prison. There is also a chance that, if found not guilty, he can sue his former employer and come back as a police officer. That, and his total asshat attitude throughout, has probably pissed of the state enough that they are going to make sure that he is nailed to the wall.
They started the trial saying this is not about license plates…it is about the lies …so many lies. He wasn’t in it to save money…he wanted to parade the pick up truck where ever he went with Purple Heart tags for everyone to see! He is such a small boy that made him feel special telling everyone he came into contact with what a special kinda person he was even without opening his mouth. I hope if found guilty he will become that special boy toy in jail with all that special population. He deserves that and so much more for all the lies he told everyone!
Because Stolen Valor is a symptom (not the cause) of bigger issues with these posers and embellishers.
Just search his name on TAH. It’s a very long story. As always, Stolen Valor is just a part of a larger story, issue and/or pathology. In some cases lives (and legs) are/were at risk.
Every prosecution of Stolen Valor (big or small) is important IMO.
The prosecution sliced and diced Ladner’s claim yesterday. The state’s witnesses gave scathing and damning testimony. One stated that if there was a DD214 for Ladner that bore a Purple Heart entry, it would have to be false. The witnesses weren’t paid experts. They were there and in the best positions to know the truth of the matter. Blam! Blam! Blam! Ladner must have acquired his doctored DD214 years ago, perhaps contemporaneously with hus actual one. He got many thanks and many gifts and many accolades and, all of it, undeserved. He is toast, unless the OJ jury is in that courtroom.
Don’t forget that this turd also claimed to his family and friends/colleagues that he was deployed to Iraq on an OIF mobilization in 2004 when he and his unit only “deployed” to Fort Benning on a NOBLE EAGLE home security mission. This POS is a liar through and through…
He told his wife he was in iraq while in Fort Benning….what an ass wipe…
I wonder why. . .
Everyone knows he likes young girls, he was probably entertaining his young fling away from the eyes of mother/wifey!
He claimed he was in most major combat events from Somalia on. Claimed Ranger, sniper, claimed to have murdered an Iraqi prisoner in order to get the others to talk. Claimed his phone rang the night of 9/11/01 recalling him to active duty that night.
It goes on and on and on.
That is hopefully what will get him at least alittle while behind bars. Hope the jury is listening.
The judge refused to allow that testimony. The defense argued at the Jackson-Denno hearing that it would be only relevant to a character assassination, not the criminal matter at hand. The judge bought it and refused to allow it at trial.
I don’t think the prosecutor needs it, actually. They are doing a damn good job with what they have.
Yeah, that’s why he didn’t take the stand. Like any witness giving evidence in the form of testimony, he would have been subject to a boiling hot examination for truthfulness and veracity. He dodged that bullet and, if he does take the stand, it will be his Alamo w/o the noble cause.
Awwwwww. Too bad that all his lies are being exposed. It would have been soooo much easier if he had just not fought the charges. But, liars and posers never concern themselves with the impact of their fanciful stories on anyone but themselves.
The defense should be highly entertaining. Grudgingly, I guess I can’t blame them for hoping that one of the prosecution witnesses will impeach himself – they got nothing else.
I wonder, was he offered a plea deal and was too dumb to accept it or is the prosecutor just trying to make an example of him? There are violent felony trials that don’t last this long.
And while I applaud the prosecutor for putting in the work to make a solid case, if I were a taxpayer in this county I would wonder if the offense Ladner is charged with warrants this expenditure of public funds.
Because it’s a zero sum game, isn’t it? Every dollar that is spent prosecuting Ladner for unlawfully obtaining a waiver of his license plate fees is a dollar that can’t be used to prosecute a wife beater, a robber, or someone else who is actually a threat to public safety.
And when Ladner is convicted (which he surely will be), I can’t help but think the story won’t be “Shane Ladner, lying sack of shit whose lies cost his wife her leg” but rather will morph into “Shane Ladner, victim of a vindictive prosecutor who was out to get him.”
If you take the time to look through the comments, today’s and yesterday’s, you’ll get answers.
I fat finger reported your comment, my apologies 2/17 Air Cav.
None needed. I don’t know what that button does, anyway. Are demerits assigned for each report? 10 demerits and no fruit cup tonight?
I believe I read in the TAH user guide that if you get “reported” more than 10 times, the punishment is tar&feathering and public shaming. But I could have misread it.
Shit! No wonder you apologized. Sunovabitch.
I see where you are coming from. Here are some answers. Yes, he was originally indicted on 1 felony and 5 or 6 misdemeanors. That was a gift from the prosecution because he was a good cop and a good soldier. He even had a righteous shooting as a cop in Canton, GA. He refused that offer.
So given the magnitude of the lie: wife lost her leg, thousands of dollars spent on him in Texas, many thousands received by him for help with medical expenses while he waved his fake purple heart around, and because of his absolute refusal to admit ANY wrongdoing, they are really going after him.
They are ‘white collar’ offenses. But he definitely knew better. And he knew the consequences of going to trial yet he demanded it. Its his right to take a trial by jury. It definitely wasn’t the prosecution’s first idea. Since he wanted it, he’s getting it. Looks like the prosecutor definitely did their homework. I’ve been to several felony trials. I’ve never seen such preparation and gathering of witnesses. It’s amazing. Shane is toast.
Well said! I hope Military are stopping by to see the spectacle. He stole thousands from many citizens believing his lies. He didn’t do it alone either. There was a woman or two helping them! One who mysteriously bought a house either right before or right after he was arrested…..makes you wonder who actually got that money. Lots of deception and lots of lies…..wish they could go after all of them.
I’m sure a lot of that money is going to pay his lawers.
Yeah.
Old Fat Boy here is really digging in and doubling down.
Ah, so they tried to offer him a deal and he was too dumb to take it.
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
This guy makes Forrest Gump look like Albert Einstein.
You are missing another point. People do get out of punishments by making cases go on forever. It costs an arm and a leg in legal bills (too soon?). However a good prosecutor will dig in when that happens, especially for a media intensive case. Otherwise everyone would see what happens and do the same. Sticking with it sends a message.
I was working there in Honduras at the time.
He was a MP for the SCIF at MI LI. At the time time all troops were confined to Soto Cano B/C of the threat from the MPLC & FPN. Col Walsh was the commander (they used to call themselves POWs Prisoners of Walsh) So this clown was a SCIF guard on Soto Cano, I bet he didn’t even to get off base to go to town.
“…Col Walsh was the commander (they used to call themselves POWs Prisoners of Walsh)…”
I bet the defense lawer is now going to claim that not only was Ladner a PH recipient, but that he was also a POW…///
That’s funny but not funny, you know?
Was I there with this asshat? I was there in 91 I believe, could be off on the date. I was with the infantry company that guarded the mountain and the pipeline. I did get out of the wire quite often though, always under arms and mostly in civvies.
It begs the question, how the hell was he running drug interdiction missions in secret squirrel mode as a PFC MP, when there was infantry present for operational security?
I thought he was protecting the engineers off base. But that was you guys.
He is done.
Well, there was one incident where some of our bright young future chapter cases thought it was a real hoot to pick Mary J off the pipeline then get drunk and brag about it. Hence, all of our hooches were raided by MPs with pistols drawn, maybe that’s the drug interdiction he was talking about.
I was there in 1988. Nobody got a pass into town. Before we got there, a van was blown up and a couple of guys were wounded. I was a commo type with an MP Company and we only left base to go up the mountain to a retrans site we ran, or on a helo to go to Tiger Island.
SCIF guard? 😀
I worked in a SCIF part of my time. SCIF guard has to be the softest duty you can get other than sleep-testing mattresses.
Is his wife still with his lyin’ ass? If she is, is it “for the money”? If she stays by his side, she is one dumb as a stump fool. He cost her a leg, and it was totally avoidable. If they can sue the train, the parade truck, organizer, they should be able to sue him too. He was culpable, and as guilty as a pilot that would take off with less than recommended fuel reserves.
She got money from multiple sources, the RR, the event, the trucking company, donations, and I’m missing some. All were settlements, except the donations, of course. She has more money than Lardass ever would have provided.
😉 I see what you did there!
I hope they make him CRY. Like a little Bitch
There are some people that WILL make him cry… they work and live at the BTJT Deli (Home of the Cocklmeat Sammich and Ghey Whey Shake).
I am QUITE sure that Shane Ladner’s first week in prison after his conviction and sentencing will be QUITE a humbling experience for him you know, ex-Cop, prison, protective custody among the Sex Offenders… I wonder how much more of his Wife’s settlement money he’s gonna burn up with his Attorney and once he goes to prison, what will his missus have for sustenance money?
This JERK OFF is a liar and being that he was a police officer, maybe they should look at some of his arrest records, someone that was innocent may have been convicted on his lack of conscious to look good for his superiors.
I learned a long time ago to never trust someone who acts or comes across like a Dudley Do right, their is always a dark side to them….I met a master of this back in 88, 1 on 1 for an hour and a half giving him a nickel tour of the aviation facility here in Jersey I worked at at that time as a line service supervisor while waiting for weather to clear so he could fly back to Arkansas and his name was Bill Clinton
Always glad to see leg man making head lines again, but he was still robbed in the tourney. With his reemergence and claims, can he be back in the tourney this year? He deserves the turd crown.
Just a fat turd.
I’m guessing that the defense will go with the “he was a sooper seekrit skwirrl warrior” that was recruited by a three lettered group to do covert ops at a moments notice and that he records are kept in the President’s desk and can be viewed after a joint meeting of Congress and the Parliament of Liechtenstein (with a 17/32 majority seekrit vote) and a unanimous approval from the SCOTUS and the World Court… that’s why he should be found innocent!
I heard the defense is going to pull Lee Marvin out of the grave to testify to recruiting Ladner into a Central american Dirty Dozen. So he does have that going for him.
“Central american Dirty Dozen”… more like a Central American Dirty Sanchez…
The defense has no witness to say, “Yep. I served with him. I visited him in the hospital after he was wounded” No witness to say, “Yep, I treated him for a wound.” No witness to corroborate anything. All the defense has is a piece of paper that a state’s witness said can’t be genuine if “Purple Heart” is on it. The state’s closing argument should be a humdinger.
We should start a pool on how long it takes the jury to come back with a Guilty verdict. I’m wondering if they even bother to sit down in the jury room.
Maybe he’ll try the “Lone Survivor” defense?
Or if that doesn’t work I’d recommend the foolproof “Chewbacca defense.”
Is it just me or does the fact that the DD214 that says he has a PH is a Nov 1988 version when it was prepared in 2004 a big red flag.
I’m pretty sure that later versions came into being in the intervening years and they had the previous versions obsolete caveat on them.
Nope, not just you spotting that.
If it was actually issued in 2004 (and not a forgery) it should have been the FEB 2000 edition, not the NOV 1988 edition.
He obviously had an older version of Form Flow on his computer. 😉
I’m sick of people like this. Man, cop a plea, do your time and disappear. Haven’t you done enough damage? Really?
He was offered a plea deal and he refused it.
So, yesterday, wifey appears as a witness in hubby’s trial. There isn’t much about it and I saw nothing of her cross examination. She testified about the float disaster, which should have allowed the state to go through a doorway previously barred: how she and he came to be on that float. The violins were playing loudly and her value to the defense was just that: a sympathy appeal. After all, she wasn’t in service with him and wasn’t present in Panama when he was wounded. No one was. Cheap theatrics, replete with a teary-eyed shit bag. Trail continues today.
I can’t imagine how the defense thinks that has any relevance to the fact he doesn’t have a Purple Heart? Aren’t they going to show us his Purple Heart? Why the sister? Oh so the family is why he doesn’t have a Purple Heart? At least they reported it to the authorities so they would stop stealing money from Atlanta citizens…..so she just wants Meg to be happy? She will when that liar poser shitbag is outta her life….the jury is probably laughing at that comic routine.
I’ve seen people go down the road to Jackson with much weaker cases from the prosecution. Looks good for the prosecution.
They had excellent and relevant witnesses. Actual witnesses to his military service! I’m still impressed they found the CG, his BN CO and the medical officer.
The defense, since they aren’t putting Shane up on the stand has….no witnesses to his service that vouch for him. No medical records. Nada. Well, the altered DD214, of course.
So the parade of family members is for what? Will the jury see through all the bullshit. IMO the family or part of it I guess that alerted authorities to his lies because they felt it was wrong to continue with a multitude of fundraisers to get money from the Atlanta and surrounding areas under false pretenses. They are making a circus spectacle and are not showing he had a Purple Heart! What is the point? Oh wait, he cried! He is crying because he is realizing it is too late for him…..no plea deal…..his date with Bubba is closing in hopefully. Nasty asswipe and his wife ain’t much better….
“So the parade of family members is for what?” Sympathy. She wheeled into the courtroom and, I’m sure, rec’d every consideration for minimizing discomfort from the judge, probably, with a “Are you okay Mrs. Ladner? Are you ready to answer some questions” from the def atty. She probably winced and said, in a pained voice, “Yes, sir.” With the scene set, the practiced Q/A began. Of course, the state, after also showing her due care and consideration (Never ever be rude to an invalid in front of a jury!) asked her something about the event, why she and her husband were chosen. And that’s all the state really had to do for evidence and to set up the closing statement about undeserved reward for fraudulently claiming a PH. I am looking for an update, figuring no way this will go into next week but, so far, I have found nothing.
Keep looking! We really, seriously need an update about today’s events.
Thanks!
“I was actually surprised they arrested him.” So testified Ladner’s atty in the Texas-tragedy-related civil actions yesterday. Atty John Cook also testified that Ladner’s DD214 was not where it was supposed to be, in St Louis, and that they sought the help of a now-former US senator to no avail. It could not be found in gov’t records
Pretty clever choice of defense witness, I’d say. The state couldn’t go where you might have hoped, thanks to the atty-client privilege. So there sat Ladner, silent, sometimes tearing, maybe sniffling, as his two impartial, disinterested witnesses, his wife and his mouthpiece, went to bat for him. And if you’re on the jury, you just have to be wondering, “Is that the best he can do, his own wife and a professional advocate? Why isn’t Ladner himself speaking to us?” And you would likely answer yourself with, “Because he’s hiding something.”
Source: http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/i-team/251535393-story
Has anyone seen this yet? Someone just forwarded to me…What kind of organization helping vets calls back a Poser and makes a video about it. What a sick screwed up mess. I can’t believe anyone would be associated with Show of Support. What a turd. Can’t stand his soft scum voice either.
Wonder how much the Ladner’s were paid for this ad! Looks like she can take care of herself! Bowling, etc. wow more free stuff! Would be a good organization maybe if they’re collecting money from individuals who think they are actually entertaining wounded combat veterans they would vet them and verify who they are. I personally know two who were entertained. Ladner and his friend Cox! Never combat veterans. Cox injured in auto accident in Atlanta! No combat wounds! Got free trip and gun and awards!! I tell everyone to stop donating until they check them!
The jury apparently retired to deliberate yesterday. Not sure whether to hope for their being out a short or a long time. However long it takes for a guilty verdict will be satisfactory.
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/i-team/251991040-story
(Sorry about not following this better – having a few issues here.)
Unless sequestered, juries go home and come back the next day, during normal court hours. So, we should get the verdict today. We weren’t present for the trial and we were given only snippets of testimony. Based only on that and assuming that there isn’t some knucklehead or two on the jury, the next step should be a Guilty and probably release pending sentencing at a future date. If a pre-sentence investigation is mandatory or ordered, it will be at least a month before sentence is meted out. I thought we had at least one TAH commenter present in the courtroom but I guess not. Let’s hope there’s a verdict reported by Fox 5 Atlanta noontime news.
“given only snippets of testimony”
Yes, I had a big bowl of popcorn just waiting for the chance to hear Janie L. Seldon, GS07, say “That’s not the way I sign my name, and besides during Demob time, my signature authority was always delegated.”
Well, the news hour came and went and…nothing. One of the two stations I am following had posted that their reporter would be on-air at noon, expecting, as I was, a verdict. That posting has now been changed to 4:00 p.m. Dahell is going on? If the jury found that he falsely claimed to the tax office that he had a PH when he knew the truth to be otherwise, that covers five or six of the charges. The remaining one is lying to investigators. All charges go to the lie. This, now, has me worried.
The jury has been at it nearly 12 hours and one juror asked whether another juror could be removed. Then, the foreman told the judge that one juror was using a larger notepad than the rest of the jury and there was concern about what was written on it. All it takes is one moron and it sounds as if the Ladner jury has that one.
And now you know why people settle court cases, because the number of fucktards in the jury room is exponentially higher than in the general population for several reasons. Most of those reasons involving lack of brain power sufficient to avoid being selected for a jury…here in the PRoM all I have to do is wear a tie to the jury room in Springfield Mass and as a middle aged white guy there is zero chance of me getting on a jury. For thirty years I am regularly removed as a peremptory challenge by defense counsel based on the color of my skin and my socio-economic status.
Apparently no one believes the part about being a dirt poor white trash kid in my youthful pre-military days. All they see is an affluent white guy so I must be racist and can’t be on the jury. It’s an interesting experience.
Meanwhile the guy sitting next me talking about all the n-words in the courtroom sails on through because he’s wearing a Phish T-shirt and has a fucking man bun…..juries of our peers indeed.
“Do you know the defendant?” the defense attorney asks, as stands beside the only person in the courtroom wearing an orange jump suit and leg irons.
Prospective juror: “Which one is the defendant?”
“She’ll do, Your Honor.”
Now the Fox5 site is saying a verdict has been reached…
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease……
If it’s a verdict, it isn’t a hung jury–which, at this pint, I was expecting. My guess is that one juror just didn’t get it and finally threw in the towel. It is, after all, nearing dinner time.
FUCK YEAH GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY (not Guilty) 6/7
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cherokee-county/jury-deliberations-continue-for-former-officer-accused-of-lying-about-purple-heart/518479513
ANOTHER WITH VIDEO!!!!
http://www.11alive.com/news/jury-to-decide-fate-of-man-accused-of-stolen-valor/435669628
Yep. G-U-I-L=T=Y. He is now a convicted felon.
KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
It can only be that the lying to an investigator was the NG since the other six charges were supported by essentially the same evidence. Man, that was too close! Felon. Felon. Felon. Felon. Felon. Felon. Take those f’n tags off. Tear up your voter’s card. Divest yourself of all firearms. Appeal bond? We’ll see.
Nope. It was one of the license plate charges.
Go figure. Makes no sense at all, but I will definitely take 6 of 7. Any six.
HOOOOOOORAY!
I want to buy the world a Coke. I apologize for every bad thing I did today. I was seating bullets on what I thought would have been a slam dunk.