Justin Nojan Sullivan pleads guilty
According to the Morganton News Herald, Justin Nojan Sullivan pleaded guilty in Asheville to one count of attempting to commit an act of terrorism transcending national boundaries. Sullivan has also been indicted for the murder of his neighbor, John Bailey Clark, but a plea deal for the previously mentioned charge of committing an act of terrorism will have him locked up for life. The prosecutor claims that he’ll be seeking the death penalty for the murder charge.
Federal documents previously have said Sullivan told an undercover FBI agent that he was a Muslim convert, wanted to kill as many as 1,000 people using cyanide-laced bullets and a vehicle filled with bombs. A criminal complaint at the time of his arrest alleged that the FBI became aware of Sullivan’s plans to obtain a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle at the Hickory Gun Show, which he planned to use to kill a large number of U.S. citizens on behalf of ISIL. He was arrested before getting the chance to attend the gun show in Hickory, according to federal documents.
Federal documents alleged Sullivan told an undercover agent, “Our attacks needs to be as big as possible…we can do minor assassinations before the big attack for training.” He talked about using a moving van filled with explosives and detonating it, the documents said.
It was former Marine Rich Sullivan, the terrorist’s father who alerted the authorities to his son’s behavior.
The retired U.S. Marine captain later said it was the hardest thing he’s ever had to do, but added, “You’re an American first and then a parent.”
Category: Terror War
Obama would pardon him if he could.
If Obama had a son…
+500 for dad.
Amen, Bravo Dad……now, FIRING SQUAD FOR DIRT BAG!!
No you are a parent first. Maybe that is why your son is fucked up and a douche bag.
You at least you did one thing right by calling the cops.
y’know, as a parent and a grandparent, over the years I have seen kids who were raised horribly turn out great and kids for whom the parents did everything as right as possible and the kid still turned out poorly. You as a parent have only so much influence over your kids… I usually liken parenting to firing a rifle – you do what you can to make sure that bullet is dead center of the X, but once the bullet leaves the barrel, an unseen twig, puff of wind, whatever – something out of your control – can affect where that bullet hits – or misses. You are condemning the father as terrible without knowing anything about it – respectfully, I think in this case the father is right: if you see your kid planning something that wrong, doing what is right transcends family loyalty.
I must concur… I have seen out-of-control teenagers do a 180 and go to West Point. And I have seen hard charging straight A students get their JD and then become full on asshats with a drug addiction.
As a parent you have the most influence, but even that is only to a degree. You see that in siblings raised similar… some comply, some rebel.
David
Good post.
Bad guy is 20. I don’t know the former Marine’s deployment history but if his was anything like mine and many military folks I know, Dad may have been gone overseas a few times while bad guy was in his formative years.
You know, that little thing we’ve been doing the last 15 years called GWOT.
I wouldn’t be so quick to call the father a shitbag.
I have to respectfully disagree CB Sr.
There is this little thing called “free will” whenever one is dealing with children.
I know neither the father nor the son in this case.
Perhaps the father was deployed during much of the son’s growing up. The same is true of many other military families. While not in the military, my own father was sent overseas by his job for months at a time throughout my raising. While it was hard for him to have as much influence on our upbringing as he would have liked, nonetheless he did his best.
That did not stop one of my siblings from spending some time in the pen. He knew better, but chose wrongly. He’s been on the straight and narrow for decades now. It also did not cause the rest of us to go all haywire either.
The father is commended for doing what was probably the hardest thing he ever had to do.
Could he have been a better father? What father or grandfather couldn’t?
Is the father to blame for the son’s actions? Only if you hold that a 20 year old – or a 2 year old – has no free will whatsoever.
To hold that position means that one either a) has never worked with children or b) is totally oblivious to how parenting works.
Not necessarily, CB Senior. Sometimes good parents end up with a kid that decides, of their own volition, to turn bad.
Personal anecdote: I served with a great officer who later retired as a GO. At the time, he had a brother who he hadn’t seen or heard from in a few years and whose current whereabouts he didn’t know.
The last time he’d seen his brother (some years before, as I recall), his brother been driving a very nice, expensive car and had loads of cash.
The guy’s belief was that his brother had gotten involved in some criminal activity. The guy I served with didn’t know whether his brother was still alive or not.
Two brothers. One apparently ends up a criminal, then disappears. The other makes the Army a career and retires as a General. Same parents, same basic upbringing.
You never know; people have free will. Parents can do their best, but sometimes a kid just decides to go bad.
Hondo – I went through a situation with my ex and her oldest daughter. Daughter was smart as a whip but didn’t have a lick of common sense. She hooked up with a Pakistani that had “overstayed” his student visa and they had two kids (both the ex and I told the dirtbag was bad news, but she thought better). She was living in OK and decided to score some crack in Stillwater – she was living in Enid – and left the two kids behind by themselves (oldest was 2 years, youngest was 6 months). Neighbors called cops, cops show up, take kids and arrest dirtbag (who was “at work”) and daughter when she returns from her crack run (when the cops went in the house to get the kids it was covered in trash, rotting food and feces).
Daughter gets 7 years for Child Abuse, Paki dirtbag get deported (he’s also on the No-Fly list due to his family’s “connections”) and kids are placed into the system (eventually released to exes first husband).
You can do everything in the world to raise a kid “right”, but in the end it’s the kid that makes the bad decisions. Rich Sullivan made one decision that I think every parent/grandparent dread – having to call the authorities because your kid has gone bad.
I pray to God I never find myself in his shoes.
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I knew that one would not be popular. You are assigning facts to the Father that are not known, only because of his service. We do not know what kind of Father he is, but in my eyes that was a pretty shitty thing to say, and telling.
When is being a Father first ever not obligated you to do what is right?
I proudly state that I am a Father first and always will be. We all know that also means making hard choices for us and our children, even turning them in.
Being a Father first also in no way diminishes one being an American.
Career that is proudest, most difficult, and greatest reward in America.
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OK guy, we are playing word games now. The fact is he is father first whether he wants to be or not. He made the kid. He could, as many have argued here, been the best motherfucker of a father since Ozzie Nelson. No guarantees in this life, as P T Barnum once said “you pays your nickle and takes your chance.” IMHO the world today blame the parents when the kid turns out to be a POS. NO SO! As someone else said, Free Will. Who can speak to what the kid did while in high school (where trouble usually starts) peer pressure, insecurity, I know better than you, Internet brain altering websites, on and on. And all outside the control of the kids parental units. I hear you CB, but it is a matter of semantics. God Bless the Dad for doing what NO parent wants to do, for knowing about your child what no parent wants to know. It’s a result of some of the fucked up PC shit, ie Prayer In School, Pledge of Allegiance, etc. You’all get my drift. I maybe an old guy but I have seem changes in this world that I would have never believed possible 60 years ago.
No asshole, you aren’t. Particularly when your kid decides to be a terrorist. This guy may not have been the best father, but I know a bunch of people who did everything as right as they could, and their kids still went apeshit stupid later on.
Is the Father of the Terrorist the asshole or me?
Inquiring Seabee’s want to know?
That would be YOU. You made assumptions derogatory to the father, basically subtly accusing him of being a crappy parent, and you have no basis for doing so. A truly liberal thing to do.
USMC Steve: the converse is just as true.
This man “Gets it”:
It was former Marine Rich Sullivan, the terrorist’s father who alerted the authorities to his son’s behavior.
“You’re an American first and then a parent.”
In this context, that is correct.
Oh Oh Frankie, you make a very good point.
I am not in favor of hitting kids, but….
Somehow, converting to the peculiarity that is islam not only hits the part of the brain that gets a high from it, but also shuts off the good/bad judgment part called the conscience.
At least his father had enough common sense to turn him in. How many lives were saved by that? Lots.
Unfortunately the little scumbag will still find plenty of people with radical Islamic beliefs in prison. Maybe the state prosecutor will get him the death penalty and he won’t be able to interact with others as much while he waits to be put to death.
I’m with David and Grunt. I have been on this earth too long to blame Mom or Dad automatically when their child does something horrible. Like them, I have seen kids from wonderful, loving, intact families go bad as bad can be and kids raised in hell become good people and fine citizens. The Dad’s pain is difficult for me to imagine. The pain he would have felt if he did not turn his son in and thereby presumably save lives is unfathomable.
Agreed.
In one respect, I hope the twerp gets the needle. But I fear that just might drive the father to put a bullet in his own head, so maybe not. Dunno.
I feel for the father. He was caught in a situation where he had literally no good options. He did the best he could under the circumstances.
In my book, the father did the right thing. I hope I’d have the guts to do the same.
The father must be going through hell right now. A hell that makes whatever he experienced as a Marine feel like a Sunday walk in the park.
My prayers go up for him.
All these news converts to the cult of moe keep wanting to show off their newfound faith by murdering people. Why do you suppose that is? Christianity generally doesn’t command new converts to shoot somebody. Never heard of a new Buddhist trying to blow up a school on the monks’ behalf. New Jews don’t have to murder kids as the price of admission. My understanding is that the Pagan reputation for human sacrifice is exaggerated. While I personally find Wiccanism weird as fuck (no offense), I’ve never heard of them considering murder to be a demonstration of piety.
Yet this keeps popping up with the cult of the polygamist child-molesting gang leader who strangely made protection rackets and rape a part of his religion.
By the way, did you see the uproar in Saudi over the rumor that ethnic-Arab Lebanese-American pornstar Mia Khalifa was buying a pro soccer team?
I wonder if the kid was fed jizzlam in some public school curriculum? We’ve seen accounts of that in the past. Regardless, it had to be painful as hell to turn his own flesh and blood in like that. As for islam, I see it as a disease of the mind. HOW many other religions call for the deaths of those converting away from it? Countries like Saudi Arabia with sharia law publicly execute converts for the “Crime of Apostasy”, when have we ever heard of that in modern days from Christianity, Judeaism, Buhddism or Hunduism? Women’s rights under sharia? Forget it, we see “Honor Killings” of daughters right and left as well as other abuses, during my two tours in the ME, I asw muzzies treat their livestock better than they did their own wives!
The cover page on link shows a table of various religious orgs. The table tells it all.
https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/51498250/Islam-and-the-Divine-Deception-TABLOID-Distribution
I’m surprised he didn’t just end him. Having your son be a domestic enemy must be rough.
I can imagine few things as bad and nothing worse than the hell this shitwad’s dad must be going through right now.
he shore got a purty mouff
Those eyes. Those dead fish eyes. Like he could eviscerate you and never break a thought, much less break a sweat. (shudder).
Kill it. Kill it now.
I concur, that is one soulless gaze. He needs to be kept locked up. In the meantime he can be part of Bubba & Thor’s harem!
When he is fully evaluated this sad sorry assed punk will likely have a bucket load of personality disorders and neuropsychiatric diagnoses. The ISIS story will be the window dressing of a seriously messed up young young man. Glad he was tagged early by dad. I lost a son due to suicide and 14 yrs of dpreession where I had to enlist the police to keep harm from us and himself several times. It is always a hard thing to do for a parent to make the call. CAPT Bones
Once again proving that ISIL has no pre-employment IQ test…