The debate
So, I kind of listened to the debate last night – I’m trying to decide what the hell I’m going to do in November. Last night didn’t help me decide. Unfortunately, I came away with the same feeling that most of the pro-Trump supporters have had – the system is stacked against him by the liberals and the establishment. Not surprising at all, but it was so blatant and transparent, it should make us all pause.
Lester Holt, or whatever his name is was horrible. He spent fifteen minutes trying to talk about Trump’s birtherism, but he didn’t want to talk about Benghazi, emails or Arab Spring. Or Hillary’s birtherism.
Apparently, the Army has made up their mind. Someone sent us this screen shot from the Army’s Twitter account last night. It’s gone now, but there it was;
Category: Politics
This is unacceptable for the official US Army twitter to be posting that. WTF?? I honestly hope that is a joke, after getting a briefing from JAG on what is acceptable conduct for AD and Reservist actions on social media during the election.
Whoever is running the official Army twitter site needs to fired if it is a civilian or get serious UCMJ action if it is a service member.
Army claims it was a mistake where a person was trying to post to their personal twitter account and goofed. I don’t see how, since I would presume the computer(s) used for official twitter posts wouldn’t also be used by anyone to make personal posts. If their story is true, than they have a VERY sloppy setup that makes mistakes ripe to occur.
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/us-army-putting-out-fires-over-trump-lies-tweet/450946183
If it was done from tablet or phone it is possible.
The twitter app will let you post from your personal account or others that you manage.
You have to check “who you are” prior to pulling the trigger.
Almost flung some of my annoyances out on a local feed I manage for a country fair..
I think it had something to do with Clintoon’s personal server…..;-)
Maybe whoever did it was auditioning for a job as her “personal server”.
You can also post to social medial from a tool called hootsuite. It allows you to post to multiple platforms, and I have used it for posting to multiple pages at the same time.
It is possible to mess up.
Tuned in for just a little bit. Meh. Hard to get excited since any action other than a vote for Trump is a vote for Cankles (incl 3rd party/no-vote). Makes it a no brainer for me, even if I don’t like it.
If the Dims had nominated almost anyone other than Clinton, the election would already be over.
Well I saw two idiots on stage last night. No joke about ..Lester the molester. Either
Hillary is a joke but trump I don’t get a good feeling on him either
We are so screwed
If we don’t find some way to call a do-over on this whole election, I’m going to have to vote for that New Mexican stoner. I couldn’t watch the debate for more than a minute or two at a time before I had to switch away for the good of my blood pressure.
New Mexico’s pot head in chief is looking pretty good these days, LOL.
You guys better do some more research if you have working-class family members who need to keep their jobs. That “stoner” also happens to be an open-borders advocate who would allow this country to be flooded with Latin American immigrants. Look at California to see how well that works.
There are four bad candidates in this race. Trump is the best of the bad.
I don’t think Libertarian voters are generally an under-informed bunch. If he were to win, Gary Johnson’s party lacks the backing to make most of the meaningful changes he wants to. Still, a few of his ideas may have enough support to get through, but I doubt border policy would be one of them. Since he won’t win, a vote for the hippy still sends a message to established parties to provide better candidates in the future, and perhaps abandon the authoritarian lean that they have both picked up.
Johnson doesn’t seem to be well liked here in New Mexico, his VP is as anti gun as they come and both have a very anti military views. I just hope who ever I vote for is the lesser of two evils or four in this case..
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Skippy,
In The Land of Entrapment?
oh my, another one of us fine, outstanding New Mexicans.
Did you need to get any shots before you came the to United States from New Mexico?
I hear that a lot when I travel…
We are actually a Tucson, Az. resident but this year we summered up by Cloudcroft and it looks like we maybe buying some land down by Sunspot. At 9300.0 feet, we love the cool weather the people and da boss LOVEs trees Lol….
Since he won’t win, a vote for the hippy still sends a message to established parties to provide better candidates in the future
If only that were true….he and Stein won’t get 10% of the popular vote combined when all is said and done. Voting for either one of these people only places those who vote this way in a group of voters who just don’t matter and never will to the major parties. Where those 16 other candidates fucked up was in the primaries when Trump could have been taken out….instead everybody thought he was big fucking joke and nobody organized to take him down instead content to sit on their asses and figure it would all work out.
WIth our Republic the fringe voters for 3rd and 4th party candidates aren’t sought by either party. They are more interested in the swing voters of independent stripes, those voters in the middle who tend to decide last minute which of the two major candidates to vote for on election day. You are kidding yourself if you think a protest vote matters. I wish it were otherwise, but if we learn nothing else from history it’s that our current system favors two and only two parties.
Trump will hopefully be the hand grenade that changes that, otherwise HRC will gladly continue the Obama path to ruin.
And helps Hillary the evil bitch get elected.
Johnson had recently, softened his open borders stance, and I was all in for him. Lately, however, he has given some interviews that worry me. Seems he is campaigning on weed legalization, instead of budget balancing which was what I liked him for in the first place.
Check out a guy named Darrell Castle.
I think ‘least bad of the bad’ might be more accurate, Poetrooper.
I get the impression that he was not really prepared for that debate, or that he just didn’t take it seriously enough. He should have been able to slap down anything she threw at him, including ‘trickle down economics’. He might have done better wearing a lighter shade of suit instead of the dark blue, because she stuck out like a sore thumb and he kind of blended into the background of the set.
If you look at the Kennedy-Nixon first debate, you’ll see what I mean: Kennedy wore a dark suit and Nixon wore light gray, which just faded into the background of the set and on black & white TV, he nearly disappeared.
No need to convince me, my comment was more out of jest. No way my former governor is getting anywhere with this.
Yes, look at California. It works pretty good. The world’s eighth largest economy is doing quite well. At least since dumbass Schwarzenegger left the gov’s mansion. We don’t have open borders here. Don’t know where you got that idea. Would never think of going back to Kansas.
Yeah, your current Governor is one prize Phi Beta kappa intellectual! Let’s see, he signed a bill allowing illegal aliens to vote, another to regulate COW FARTS,…
Bullshyt! The was one man/patriot and one piece of ugly, lying shyt…thats what was on the stage, and a phony turd moderator….thats it!
She is a lying POS and the moderator “Well” We knew what we where going to get from him
I’m NEVER GOING TO VOTE for Bilary,,,, not now or never but I hope, he gets in and rips her a new ass you can’t play soft with these people
I didn’t watch. There is no way I’m voting for Clinton, so why bother? I have no desire to listen to her shrill bullshit.
I guess I could vote for Johnson or Stein, but for one thing that also a vote for Clinton and well, they’re both batshit crazy.
I didn’t watch or listen. I am voting and I will vote for Trump. There is no choice for me. My vote is dictated by conscience, which will not permit me to cast my vote for Wide Load. Benghazi.
Ditto across the board.
At the risk of sounding glib about a serious issue my decision in the voting booth will be as easy as ABC. Anybody But Clinton.
Both of these loads are pretty wide.
They are both cocksuckers, but I will be voting for Trump.
By the way, Lester Holt is a cocksucker too.
Bet your sweet ass Lester Holt is an A Number 1 cocksucker and Hillary crotch eater. Could he have shilled for her any more?
It was so blatant. Lester Holt did not want to suffer Matt Lauer’s fate.
Most in the media enjoy fellitating the Barbed Cock of Satan – possessed by Cankles Wide Load!
I was faced with a tough choice last night….watch the debate or something important.
“Something important” won out…I spent the next few hours with Bob Ross on a “Joy of painting” binge marathon.
You too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh5p5f5_-7A&t=7m40s
2/17…..the man had a voice like Xanax.
Just reading his name in your comment made me sleepy but at peace with the world.
“Ross enlisted in the United States Air Force at 18 years old and served as a medical records technician. He eventually rose to the rank of master sergeant and served as the first sergeant of the U.S. Air Force Clinic at Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska, where he first saw the snow and mountains that later became recurring themes in his artwork”.
Happy trees!
Cool that!
Started to watch it last night. After the 2nd interruption by Holt, along with the just terrible feed I had (delay and stack was ridiculous), I decided not to. Read the (trans)script this morning. My blood pressure probably wouldn’t have handled it too well anyway. Dodged a bullet. Really voted for Cruz in the Primary, but it’ll be Trump come November. The whole Benghazi Lie is just too big to let a sitting politician get away with it.
What pissed me off about Trump was that he wouldn’t defend “trickle down economics” when Hillary was accusing him of bringing it back and he ran away from the Iraq War. For some reason it was important for Holt to link Trump to the Iraq War when clearly Hillary voted for it. So what was Holt’s point?
Holt’s point was to make Hillary look good…period. Trump needs to talk about the important issues, especially nailing her to the cross about her misdeeds.
If you are looking for a conservative in Trump, you are aren’t going to find one, just as if you are looking for an honest and decent human being in Wide Load, you aren’t going to find one. And there is hope in Trump. If he dies, Pence will make a good president.
Yes, a lot people think Pence will be almost as good as Cheney
KOOL-AID SPILL on Aisle 13…
I was yelling the same thing at he TV. He let her off easy on a few topics.
Holt’s point was reinforcing the concept that Trump can’t ever say he was mistaken or incorrect in any of his recollections.
Trump’s biggest mistakes to date are a clear inability to ever admit that he might have changed an opinion, or been wrong with a comment. In 2002 when he said, “Yeah I guess so” when asked if he supported the war it was hardly a rousing endorsement. He could easily enumerate on that by stating if Bush/Cheney thought it was best he wanted to support his president in spite of his misgivings and then he could cite the later interviews and simply state that the misgivings turned out to be accurate and he was against it.
Instead he once again digs in his heels and refuses to acknowledge what he said and clarify its meaning.
His hard core base doesn’t care about any of that, any more than HRC’s base cares about her foibles and outright lies. The folks on the fence though, I don’t know if he wins them over by admitting that he didn’t want to publicly go against the war in 02 in light of his residency in New York and his support to make those responsible for the attack pay a price but he later realized he should have gone with his gut….whatever, however.
This election is a razor thin margin right now in my own personal, and relatively useless, opinion largely because both candidates have such low favorability ratings. In a 4 way race two people are locked in a dead in the low 40s of percentile while the two clear losers (Stein, Johnson) are perhaps spoilers. Spoilers for whom though? That’s the interesting question. I suspect they have a role in this election. Their presence will siphon off enough votes to ruin the election for HRC or Trump.
When that happens even though the popular vote might remain close I suspect the EC vote will be far less of a close call.
I agree completely. Holt actually was giving Trump and opportunity to clear it up, just like Megan Kelly did with the misogyny stuff in the Fox primary debate. But Trump just keeps doubling down, when he could have responded as you suggested and actually sound like a sane person for once.
Did anyone really think that the Trumpeters wouldn’t immediately claim moderator bias? The most common theme of this whole election debate cycle has been Trumpeters claiming victory in the face of moderator bias. Why change now?
I have a feeling Trump is going to bail on the other two debates.
Concur with all you stated.
Trump was telling the truth, and Neil Cavuto pulled up the video to prove it.
Like this: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/boom-neil-cavuto-just-busted-msm-plays-2003-interview-with-trump-against-iraq-war-video/
Sean Hannity (Trump referred to him during the debate) also confirmed that Trump was telling the truth.
Trump does not understand Trickle down economics besides the standard catch phrases.
And, sorry Jonn, but trickle down economics has been utterly debunked based on the actual empirical data. It did not work here and has not worked anywhere it has ever been tried.
More yapping with no supporting evidence. Just what I expect from you, Lars.
Lars loves the empirically proven and economically sound unicorn socialism.
All of the socialism you have known for so long with 90% more unicorns.
The evidence is literally 50 years of American tax records.
The book “Capital in the 20th Century” by Thomas Picketty sums up one of the key problems with it.
Additionally, inflation adjusted income is negatively correlated with tax cuts for the the top tax brackets.
And the assumption that the wealthy take their tax cuts and reinvest it back into the economy is flat false. The capital accumulates (proven unequivocally by tax records since the Reagan tax cuts) what is consumed largely stays in a segment of the economy that is generally wealthy businesses catering to wealthy clients. And a substantial amount goes overseas.
It does not even make sense that it would work.
When in the history of human society has wealth ever flowed DOWN in any meaningful way?
Here is a purchasing power chart showing Reagan’s tax cuts did not flow down in actual purchasing power.
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/images/content_image/data/f1/f1bddfd60a7085c654daea1353d98626.gif
Here is where the money goes;
http://www.motherjones.com/files/images/change-since-1979-600.gif
http://assets.motherjones.com/politics/2011/inequality-p25_averagehouseholdincom.png
Here is where the wages actually go (the financial class – bankers, stockbrokers).
http://www.motherjones.com/files/images/change-since-1979-600.gif
And here is what happens to the distribution of wealth (proving ti does not flow back into the hands of the middle and lower classes).
http://www.motherjones.com/files/outofbalance.jpg
Poodle,
I get it,
Rich people bad.
Poor people cant help themselves.
I am sure you were noble in your military career and accepted E-1 pay even though you were a super-duper Officer.
Thomas Picketty fails to comprehend how depreciation works.
Jesus Lars, I didn’t believe that even you were so dumb to cite that babbling idiot Frenchman Picketty as proof of anything. Forbes tears him a new one here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhendrickson/2015/01/07/assessing-thomas-pikettys-capital-in-the-twenty-first-century/#2c6e6ffa6787
And “Mother Jones” Lars? If I were so inclined, I’m sure I could dig up this or that article from the National Review, the Weekly Standard or Reason to refute anything they have to say, but it’s not like it would change anyone’s mind. Socialism is flawed because it gives too much power to the planners (however you define them). That way is the road to serfdom (yeah, Hayek is my homeboy).
Are you seriously advancing “Mother Jones” as a reputable source of economic data and analysis?
“Mother Jones” is about as politically neutral as “The Village Voice”!
True. But it’s makes a nice birdcage liner, and in a pinch is useful for wrapping raw or frozen fish.
So where do the toddlers get their money?
You do realize that image compares current-year dollars with real dollars – right, Poodle? ANY real gain (e.g., after adjusting for inflation) means you’re better off than you were previously.
I’d expect someone who allegedly studied political economics (or anything related) at Berkeley to see at a glace that the intent of that chart was to compare current-year dollars and real (inflation-adjusted) purchasing power in order to highlight the effect of inflation.
Are you really that thick, did you simply goof – or were you trying to pull a “fast one”, hoping no one would notice.
Not only that, but the trend line for the “imaginary” growth line is pretty constant from 1967 onwards, so the trend precedes Reagan (whatever Lars thinks that the chart shows). Of course it could just be that we are seeing the effect of “fiat money” with that chart-who would have thought that Lars was a goldbug.
Effects of inflation vice fiat money, actually – though the latter is arguably at least partially to blame for the former (wages being effectively not free to fall during an economic downturn is another cause, as are COLAs in Federal benefit and retirement programs). And even then, the numbers are suspect. The chart purports to use “CPI-U-RS” to show it’s “real” growth in household income. However, CPI-U-RS was not developed by BLS until 1978; BLS doesn’t publish retroactive CPI-U-RS figures for years prior to 1978. So it’s unclear where the “CPI-U-RS” figures for 1967-1977 used in that chart came from – and the chart identifies neither their source or how they were obtained. So I’d regard any data in that chart prior to 1977 (base year for CPI-U-RS) as being suspect as hell. The Census Bureau has derived what purports to be “CPI-U-RS” figures for 1947-1976 using a ratio method – e.g., they assumed the 1977 CPI-U-RS to CPI-U ratio (the two are not equal) for 1977 holds for earlier years. Since this ratio is not always constant, this essentially means those numbers were developed by the “rectus extractus” method – AKA “by guess and by golly”. Whether they’re even close to accurate is questionable; they’re definitely not considered definitive, and aren’t that easy to find. http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpirsinfo.pdf http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpiurs.htm https://web.stanford.edu/group/recessiontrends/cgi-bin/web/trend-data/sami/consumer-price-index-all-urban-consumers-research-series-cpi-u-rs Another possibility is that a different figure (perhaps CPI-U) was used for 1967-1977 without identifying that fact. If so, that is both unethical and incorrect; it’s an “apples to oranges” transition that hasn’t been identified as such. The chart also uses household income – and thus fails to account for a major demographic change in the US workforce in the 1970s and 1980s. During the 1960s, the norm was a single-earner household; multiple-income households with two working parents were relatively uncommon. By 1990, I’m reasonably certain that a 2-earner family had become commonplace if not the norm. That alone would account for some of the observed rise in household income. Plus, comparing nominal to inflation-adjusted incomes – household or personal – doesn’t show you squat in terms of distribution. All it… Read more »
Meh-I didn’t look into it in any detail. I figured it was a crap chart regardless, but the trend line was obvious and showed that whatever it was that Lars was attempting to show preceded Reagan who he blamed specifically. Thanks for breaking it down though, more than enough material to show that he doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about.
So trickle-down didn’t work, Lars? That means we, what, imagined the economic improvement during the Reagan administration?
The economic improvement during the Reagan Administration was, unfortunately, largely funded by a huge (but necessary) increase in Federal spending on defense – without making corresponding cutbacks in the growth of social programs. The result was a huge increase, percentage-wise, in the US national debt.
That is one of the few areas in which I’ll criticize the Reagan Administration. They did not insist on the reduction of the Federal deficit, in percentage terms, during peacetime. They gave away too much in that area in order to get the rest of their desired programs enacted.
Ermagerd! I explain basic trickle down economics quite clearly below. Anyone with a real working brain can understand it.
But the poodle? He’s going off on that money hoarders thingy that we saw in that little bimbo proposing a 100% tax on wealthy people, when she herself comes from wealth and her father paid ++$1 million for a house in the north suburbs of Chicago.
Please, don’t go where you don’t belong, poodle. You’re up to your eyebrows in quicksand here.
Just a basic explanation of ‘trickle down’ economics, from someone (me) who DOES get it a WHOLE lot better than you do, Lars, you incredible moron. I don’t think you even know where your underwear comes from.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=68178&cpage=1#comment-2905161
I’ll be the first to admit I’m weak at economics, but I think ‘trickle-down economics’ (or supply-side economics) has a fair amount of complexity when you get into the details of our tax system.
I think, and no I don’t have sources but I’ll try to look some up later, that there’s been a reasonable amount of evidence that wealthy people are holding on to their wealth. They aren’t spending it creating new jobs. Giving them tax breaks to create new spending -and in theory new jobs- just hasn’t panned out in recent years.
That said, obviously high taxes are an impediment to business growth (below that threshold where you can just route everything offshore and claim no net income, anyway), so tax cuts to businesses have a benefit.
Maybe it’s just me and my lack of understanding of these matters, but I wish we (as a country) would move into a more nuanced discussion of economics than simply, “Billionaires are our saviors!” vs. “Socialism!”
I want business growth, as does any sane person, but I also don’t think cutting taxes on ‘the rich’ (again, a poorly defined group) has any pronounced effect either. I’m happy to take any pointers that clearly demonstrate otherwise, though.
“…wealthy people are holding on to their wealth…”
What are they doing? Swimming around in their money in a big pool/vault like Scrooge McDuck?
Otherwise they are either saving or investing-and both have economic benefits in different ways than spending.
That’s fair – at least in theory. But the assumption -maybe my assumption, but I figured it was an implicit one understood by others?- is that with more money available to them, they’d directly inject it into the economy, starting new jobs, buying new things, etc. You can argue that by saving or investing they’re doing that indirectly, and sure, that’s true (with one major caveat below), but I’d argue it’s less relevant to the overall economic situation than, say, better small business grants, lower start-up costs or other direct-action effects. Again, my knowledge of economics isn’t that great, so maybe those aren’t good examples – but direct usually beats indirect for these sorts of things, right?
And the other problem that immediately springs to mind is the caveat I mentioned above – if Joe Smith has $10B invested in US companies, or in savings in US entities, that helps us, even if indirectly. If Joe Smith has that invested in China, or Mexico, or stored in an account in the Caymans or Switzerland, it’s not doing us much good, is it?
So, sure, on principle, if wealthy people are investing their wealth here, even if they’re not directly creating jobs with it, that’s a net plus. Maybe not as effective as direct plans for job growth, but still a plus.
However, if they’re storing their wealth overseas, I don’t think it does any good for us, does it?
Well, let’s run a different example and see what you think of that. “Joe Smith”, if I follow you, is wrong to invest his personal $10 billion overseas, but what if Joe Smith is the investment manager for a company that specializes in 401Ks and he invests that money for his clients overseas, say $25 billion in this case-s that also wrong? After all, that’s money that’s not immediately available for investment in the U.S., right?
Of course Joe Smith’s clients are getting a better rate of return investing overseas, so are they wrong for choosing a 401K that focuses overseas instead of the U.S.?
See, I would say no. Because those people are looking after their own future needs and using their own money to do it (and that money may come back to the U.S. when they retire-or maybe not, but that is entirely their own business). Of course I also wonder if maybe those Mexican or Chinese workers who are benefitting from that investment (from whatever source) might like to use those dollars to buys some American products-if we are competitive.
P.S.-I don’t think “directly” or “indirectly” matters all that much. Money that’s saved would be “indirect” if I follow you, but banks rely on that to have money on hand to loan. Saving is a smart part of any sound personal financial plan.
“Tax breaks in recent years”? What are you calling “recent years”?
There hasn’t been a substantial tax reduction in either the top US income tax rate or the top US corporate tax rates since 2003. That year, the top individual bracket dropped by roughly 9.3% (from 38.6% to 35%), and the capital gains tax dropped by about 24% (from 21.2% to 16.1%). The capital gains rate did drop a bit more – less than 7% more – in two increments over the next 7 years, to 15%. The top individual tax bracket remained constant.
Both were again raised, substantially, in 2010. The top individual tax rate was raised to 39.6% (the highest it’s been since 1986), and the capital gains tax rate was raised by 66.7% – from 15% to 25%.
The Federal top corporate tax rate has remained at 35% since 1993, when it was raised from 34%. It is this corporate tax rate that is likely causing the most problem with US job creation. When state corporate income taxes are added (4.1% nationwide average), the US overall corporate tax rate totals 39.1%. That is currently the third highest overall corporate tax rate in the world. Only Chad and the UAE have a higher combined corporate tax rate.
http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/corporate-top-tax-rate-and-bracket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_tax_in_the_United_States
Mother fucking Jones? GTFOH, PDtBF.
“Mother Jones” as a link??? WOW… wht don’t you link to Pravda?
Or you can go to any number of U. S. Government, university, or private research centers websites and get the same information.
Then provide such a link.
But do be advised that data already exists showing that the real median growth in personal income in the US has been 30+% since 1974. That’s in real terms (e.g., adjusted for the effects of inflation based on CPI-U-RS) – not in nominal (current year) dollars.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N
ANY increase in real terms means you’re better off than you were previously. And since the bottom in real terms was in 1981 – in real terms, personal income declined from 1974 through 1981 – that’s nearly a 1% per year annual increase after inflation is accounted for.
Those are also median numbers, not averages (median means half are above and half are below). A rising median is a much more reliable indicator of an “across the board” increase than a rising average, which can be skewed by statistical “outliers”.
Well said and thank you
Well, except for the fact that it’s based on a flawed assumption. There haven’t been any significant “tax reductions” since 2003, so talking about the effect of “recent” tax reductions isn’t accurate.
Do you understand supply side economics?
Where is all of this actual empirical data you so frequently speak of?
Do you believe that taxation is theft?
You are wasting your breath, arguing with a progtard (crypto-communist). They live in a parallel universe where everything they read in their crypto-commie media (propaganda) is absolute truth. After all communism has only killed about 100 million people, but let’s give it another try and a fair chance to fix that evil “capitalism.” In his parallel universe, it will be insure wealth will be distributed equally for the benefit of all. I can hardly wait for my share of the skittles and my unicorn.
Here, http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=68178&cpage=1#comment-2905161
but remember that my explanation is real-world, not ideologically based.
Now I want a quiche for supper. And strawberries for dessert. I’d better skedaddle!
Hmm. How the “trickle” works.
Rich dude wants to make money. Has to invest it somewhere to grow it.
Business? Goes to buy more stuff, hire more people, etc. Just turn into raises for current folks? They ar enow better off,and have to spend or invest the new money.
Growth!
Rich dude decides to blow the inheritance. Spends wildly on cars, trips, meals, and bling. Who makes all that stuff? Sells it? Cleans it?
Growth!
Rich dude goes nuts, and squirrels the family fortune in sacks of paper money hidden in a root cellar. Money has value based on availability. Take a pile out of the cycle,and the rest becomes that much more valuable. He is effectively deflating the currency to the small degree he impacts it.
Hmm. But who sold him the sacks, helped him move it all, dug th enew root cellar big enough for it?
Growth!
Socialists and other Proggies have to deny the above to make their own schemes seem sane.
They also ignore that of they prevent someone from creating wealth, there is no wealth to steal and divert to voters elsewhere. You cannot print wealth. You cannot command wealth. You cannot borrow wealth. You cannot pretend wealth. It must be created via the mechanism of profit, of the positive sum game that is capitalism, and it is created by the individual minds and efforts of entrepreneurs, big and small, singly or in cooperation.
“You cannot print wealth. You cannot command wealth. You cannot borrow wealth. You cannot pretend wealth.”
Lars faints.
Trump DID call Hitlery out when she really blatantly lied about him, but it was SO obvious they stacked it for Hitlery it wasn’t even funny. I hope Trump brings up Benghazi in the next debate, she needs to have that thrown in her face! Every one of Hitlery’s comments looked so much like it was rehearsed and scripted as well.
When Cankles kept telling Trump to release his tax returns, he should have said “I emailed them to you, you must have deleted them”.
That’s funny. Send it to the campaign. They could use it in the future. The fact is that millions of Americans will decide their vote within 48 hrs of the election and a line like that would work.
At this point, I’m half tempted to write in Sweet Meteor of Death to just end it all.
Seconded. Joyous be its name.
#SMOD16
The only candidate with a viable plan to completely reverse man-made global warming.
Cthulhu 2016; vote for the greater evil.
Is it politically correct to call a black man a cuck or a beta?
Probably not but who gives a fuck? It’s not as if we’ve ever been very PC here.
Adjust your TV.
There was no black candidates at the debate last night.
Trump is orange.
Hey, cockbreath poodledick. I think that was a reference to Holt.
Adjust your head. It’s up your ass. Again.
But were there any toddlers at the debate last night?
“Trump is orange”
Poodle,
Have you been playing house with Rosie O’Donnell again?
What color is Hillary?
What color is your boy Bernie, the sellout?
Hillary is black, the absence of light and not so bright as she thinks she is or she is a rainbow cacophony of color and can pretend she’s a beachball
Only ONE color for Bernie, YELLOW and that was embarrassingly proven. when he let that BLM tool take over his podium….weakdik
from the beginning of this election, I wanted to vote for Jim Webb, proven leadership skills under duress, but he was totally ignored by the media during the early Democratic debates, probably as part of the fix by the DNC to get Hillary the nomination
I am seriously thinking of sitting out this bad joke of a comical tragedy of an a election
whether Trump or Hillary win, they will both be reactive to a crisis and will always be 1 or 2 steps behind our countries adversaries when in actuality we need a proactive POTUS that is ahead of the curve
Another thing I don’t get with these liberal knuckle heads is ?
Why do they want to have an adversarial relationship with Russia ?
Why are we surrounding them with THAAD in Romania & Poland and Aegis equipped ships, in the Black & Baltic seas ?
I’d rather have a POTUS that gets along Putin than doesn’t, cuts down on the odds of a tragic misunderstanding for the world
With the blue light on her face to prevent seizures, I’d say she was an odd shade of infected vaginal discharge.
I did not watch the debates last night, for a good reason. The real direction and purpose of having these debates has been lost.
So I’m leaving this upload from the JFK Library here for your review. It’s the first debate between Kenney and Nixon, and the first televised debate, ever. This is the way it should be done. Apparently, that no longer holds true.
https://youtu.be/gbrcRKqLSRw
I might add here that when a debate takes more than an hour and nothing is clear other than the bias of the media, the entire business needs to be scrapped and started from scratch.
Take the media out of it, because there are no real journalists left, and find people who know how to do these things correctly.
they might just as well have spent 90 minutes calling each other back & forth, yer a dik & yer a cunt, ’cause that’s what they pretty much did !
these 2 crazy clowns are just absolutely…..PATHETIC !
I watched the debate, and was ASTOUNDED that The Donald actually found a way to bring up the subject of the thirty-three thousand missing e-mails (to spontaneous cheering applause from the audience). In regards to that topic, it was unfortunate that no mention was made of the violations of federal laws when mishandling classified Top Secret material, which has severe penalties, including lengthy prison sentences. When discussing the economy, Hillary sounded like a Communist. When discussing firearms, Hillary sounded like a Nazi. When discussing race, The Donald SHOULD have strongly objected to the hijacked Marxist inspired term, “African American”, as many GENUINE African Americans are white refugees fleeing racial genocide, who have become good American citizens whom nobody ever hears about since they don’t break laws and make the news. The Donald should have addressed the birther issue by raising the question of Barry Soetoro being an Indonesian foreign exchange student, along with the fact that he never applied for US citizenship after returning from Indonesia, where he was a citizen and a Muslim. I wonder why neither candidate ever referred to the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution of the United States of America, not even once? In the final analysis, I’m reminded of what a German said about life in Germany following the Treaty of Versailles, when he frankly stated that the only choices that German voters had was either the Communists or the Nazis, and after seeing what happened in Russia, German voters were terrified of Communism. I think much the same thing is happening right now to us. We’ve seen what Obama and Hillary have done, and we’re ready to vote for ANY alternative, no matter what. I’m not saying The Donald is a Nazi, merely commenting on our society’s current psychological condition, which approaches unreasoning panic. Actually, there are already numerous uncanny parallels between the Third Reich in 1938, and our current American society, such as preferential treatment based on race, racial quotas, government mandated politically correct speech, a controlled news media, public schools used for indoctrination and social conditioning, Hollywood employed as a propaganda… Read more »
If we have to be Germany, at least dump the speed limits on rural Interstate highways. If I have to take the ride let it be at high speed 🙂
That would get some votes, Fjardeson. You should run for office. We could start a new party called the Motorheads. Send all those supporters of the “adorable” Google car off to re-education camps…
Well, that helnet is also based on anatomy, with influences from several designs, including US and Swiss.
And the M-60 is more a “mirror Trek universe” copy of the MG-42, having managed to be a reasonably decent gun in spite of its myriad design flaws. The gas system is a near total bollox.
Not too many ways to build a limited access multi lane highway. Cars are freedom. Boxcars were the tools of the Final Solution, not the Beetle.
JRM: “forcing everyone to submit to searches when traveling..”
Are you talking about when one travels by commercial airline?
Crazy, it’s almost like they’re making sure that people don’t fly with weapons and explosive…
Granted, we can argue about whether they need to run us through a nude-scanner, but on principle I see no issue with this one.
Some Guy: Agree. If “search” means running our checked luggage through a scanner or having our carry ons screened by a scanner or a person walking through a scanner before we board a commercial aircraft, then I am thankful we are “forced to submit to searches”.
Are you feeling ok? Have you taken your meds yet? There is too much nonsense and conspiracy mumbo-jumbo to address everything individually, but:
1. The homosexual Nazis you are referring to are most likely the SA under Ernst Röhm. You might want look up what happened to them in 1934 and decide for yourself if homosexuality was A-OK with the Nazis. Any remaining homosexuals either stayed in the closet or went to the concentration camps with a pink triangle on their arm.
2. Why would Obama have to apply for US citizenship if he already was a US citizen? Even Trump has admitted to that, so please bury that poor horse already.
And our Interstate Freeway system is not a copy of the Autobahn, rather visa versa (JRM, please do some research via Internet on the history behind the U.S.Interstate.)
Hollywood employed as a “propoganda” machine? Yes, the US Motion Picture industry (Hollywood) as well as the Armed Forces produced “propoganda” films, before WWI and WWII and during WWII. The Germans during WWII may have gotten that idea from the US, but I could be wrong.
I also don’t understand your comment about public schools (indoctrination and social conditioning), so if you have the chance, JRM, please share your views. Thank you.
There is an establishment conspiracy to make sure a sell out candidate wins. But it is not just a “liberal” conspiracy. Both sides have establishment candidates.
However, Trump really is an idiot. That is not a conspiracy.
He is a terrible candidate. And there is no reason to believe he would not immediately sell out the public good for future wealth as well.
We are pretty much screwed either way.
I am more focused on down ballot races at this point.
I despise both presidential candidates.
To reiterate, I do despite both candidates because my boy Burnie was royally screwed. But, I will be voting for Hillary even though I won’t admit it here. Our progress to communism would be slower than my boy Burnie, but would still be faster than the other candidate’s.
Believe my superior intellect when I say that everybody should be voting for candidates that will bring us to a happy rainbow existence.
Your superior,
Commissar’s Narcissism
Commissar Poodle
Major, USAR
Don’t fear the commie!
What was that, ex-OS2? Did you perchance say “Don’t fear the commie”?
Indeed I did!
C’mon now, fellas.
It’s a little known fact that East Germany was such a luxurious Communist Utopia that they actually had to build the Berlin Wall to keep people OUT of East Germany.
East Germany was so egalitarian, benign, and well-run overall that EVERYONE wanted to get in! And only the police and military had guns, so the citizenry was safe from gun violence!
So don’t fear the Commie!
No, no! The Berlin Wall was built to keep people IN
East Berlin!
The entire East German border had a no man’s land zone that escapees had to navigate, and frequently did not succeed because the East German border guards would shoot them.
Just as our Glorious Leader Jonn Lilyea about his ‘Thunder run!’ call.
YOU MEAN “The Iron Curtain” between the Eastern bloc and Western Europe wasn’t to deny Westerners the joys and luxuries of life under socialism? I’m shocked!!!
Ex-PH2:
Roger all; I inadvertently left my ‘sarcasm’ tag off of my post above. It was aimed at Commissar Poodle, who is always admonishing us not to ‘fear the Commie’.
I remember East Berlin/East Germany very well, and I remember very distinctly what it was all about. I also know people who were in there before the Wall came down.
There was plenty to fear from the East German Communists.
Yep. East Germany was an efficiently-run Communist dictatorship.
It was also a police state exceeding even the Soviet Union’s wildest dreams. It is estimated that if part-time informants are included, the Stasi – East Germany’s secret police – had 1 informant for each 6.5 East Germans. They maintained files on approximately 5.6 million
people. East Germany’s population in 1989 was roughly 16.5 million.
The Stasi is estimated to have destroyed approximately 5% of its files before East Germany’s 1989 “peaceful revolution”. This is believed to have involved the destruction of somewhere around 1 billion sheets of paper.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/k/koehler-stasi.html
https://www.wired.com/2008/01/ff-stasi/
“The lives of others” is very highly recommended for anyone who wants to understand the old East Germany.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others
Um. Moher Joes says tht never happened.
Then “Moher Joes” is out to lunch. Again. (smile)
You could vote for Mickey Mouse for all I care, it takes brains and a dose of common sense to run a business empire like Trump has over the years. Do you really have to shit in your britches nearly every time you come here to rant? Establishment Candidates? Hitlery Cankles is indeed one, but Trump? No, Bush and Kasich are examples of GOP establishment types, ditto with McCain and Romney.
I never said Trump was establishment. But he will sell out.
Trump is a ignorant blowhard and the fact that you can’t see that reflects negatively on you.
But I am not surprised.
“Trump is a ignorant blowhard and the fact that you can’t see that reflects negatively on you.”
Your lofty opinion of Bernie and that other whack job, Jill Stein, say all that needs to be said about you, Commie Boy.
Speakin’ of which, I read an article about Jill Stein being REMOVED from the debate venue. Apparently she was trying to get in past security sans credentials.
BERNIE is about a whackjob and a half himself, he has never had a real job in the private sector and never had a steady income until he got elected to office.
Commissar Poodle:
Please turn down the volume of ‘The Internationale’ that you have blaring in the background whenever you post.
We can’t understand you due to that awful Marxist din.
“But he will sell out”
You mean like your boy Bernie did?
Speaking of Bernie, I saw pics of that NICE waterfront house he bought for a paltry $600K and rumor has it that the place was appraised at over $750K. Happenstance? Coincidence? Lucky deal? Meh, how many hungry children could have been fed with that money, how many college tuitions could have been paid? How many homeless people could have been housed and fed? Just repeating the same questions that proglodytes like our favorite human dartboard and the Bernie crowd asks anytime a Conservative spends money.
Or, how many zika deaths could have been averted!
Oh the humanity!
Bernie was probably given that house by the foundation for endorsing wide load.
I put money on his stank ass sucking a lot of cock to get it.
Ask Bernie’s wife where the money came from… she forced a school to close it’s doors due to her “management”!
As I recall, she also left while after receiving a 7-figure “golden parachute”. The college was in such bad shape financially after her departure that it later closed.
I’ve also read that at one point she was under investigation for fraud associated with her financial dealings. Not sure whatever became of that investigation.
She allegedly overstated the college’s pledges and/or honored pledges in securing a loan to buy 30+ acres of land. She reportedly also hired her daughter at 6+ figures as well as her daughter’s friend. Meanwhile, Bernie the Old Commie bought support by talking up free college on the campaign trail. Well, free ain’t free and somebody has to pay. Burlington college went belly up. No great loss. It was reported that 1/3 of its graduates were earning what others with high school education were earning. No wonder. The place offered graduate degrees in woodworking. I don’t know what the status of the fraud accusations is. It seems a tough row to hoe that someone knew or should have known that donations to the school wouldn’t materialize. And it seems a stupid move on the seller’s part to entrust the debtor to pay based upon the promises of third parties. I guess that when it comes to business acumen, as opposed to self enrichment dependent upon others, commies suck.
Oh. My. God. Trump is a blowhard??
I think we’ve ALL known that for months, you jackass!
A year late and ten grand short, you are. You just can’t even keep up with us, can you?
I know that Trump is an ignorant blowhard, because I’m an ignorant blowhard. It takes one to know one.
Your superior,
Commissar’s Narcissism
Commissar Poodle
Major, USAR
As his mangina I can vouch that he has copies of Pravda and Izvestia all over his 10 x 10 “loft” he shares with 14 people!
Thanks, that’s true also. Great to hear from you, see you at the barbecue.
Major Commissar’s Narcissism
“I despise both presidential candidates.” And I have little doubt that if both knew you, they would despise you, too. Trump would tell you to your face (idiots do that sort of thing.) Wide Load, who is not an idiot, would pretend to like you and then tell one of henchmen to take a sledgehammer to your knees and elbows.
What fucking difference does it make whether they would like me? How is that even relevant. are you hurt that i do not like you orange moron?
You just have to find something to ridicule in every post I make.
But you make it so EASY to ridicule, Poodle. Every time you post something, it’s couched in language almost specifically aimed at poking the bear to get a backhanded response. If you’re that desperate for attention, open a bar, engage a birdbrained waitress named Diane and a grumpy Italian girl Carla to serve the customers and turn it into a TV show. Then everyone will know your name.
“You just have to find something to ridicule in every post I make.”
You are missing the point, Commissar. It’s you that I ridicule. Your posts just help me to make quick and easy work of it. Now, go buy yourself a jumbo box of Kleenex. You’re getting low. BTW, I enjoy your always taking exception to me cmts regarding you. Mine is one of many that ridicule or dismiss you as a royal asshole. Who is that has the obsession?
Does he even remotely know he BEGS to get himself ridiculed?
That’s Major Commissar, USAR, to you! The Army Reserve must be proud of me! I represent them very well.
Your superior,
Lars taylor’s Narcissism
Commissar Poodle
Major, USAR
“What fucking difference does it make….” You stole that line from Wide Load, but you added the f’n part.
That wide load keeps my face warm during the winters.
Your superior,
Commissar’s Narcissism
Major, USAR
Lars, don’t you realize, boy, that every time you write something like, “there WAS no black candidate(S) at…” you make every one of us chuckle at the fact that our self-anointed scholar, our Berkley Boy, grad student, can’t even master elementary noun-verb agreement?
And you wonder why we then scoff at your intellectual pretensions?
I have encouraged Lars in the past to enroll in a remedial grammar and spelling class to no avail.
Recently, I pointed out to Lars “Commie Boy” Taylor that his comments lacked sentence structure and included poor word choices.
Did you know that I, Commissar’s Narcissism, am a Major in the U.S. Army Reserve? My writing makes the Army Reserve proud of me, and they wish for me to keep writing here, and to make them proud of my intellect. I represent them very well here.
Your superior,
Commissar’s Narcissism
Commissar Poodle
Major, USAR
Lars, have you ever even remotely considered the thought that you make yourself a human dartboard every time you shit your britches and babble here? Look around for assholes anyplace you are, if you see one or two you’re all right, but if you look around and say that about everyone but you, chances are that YOU are the asshole.
“If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you need to do is quit diggin’.”
“Always drink upstream from the herd.”
“The biggest troublemaker you’ll probably ever have to deal with watches you from the mirror each morning.” – Old Farmer’s Advice
Variant I’ve heard that I prefer, PT, is the following:
(The Bear, as he departs, speaking to the Zampolit) “Admit it. You are not coming here here for the hunting.”
Nope, I come here to dazzle you guys with my intellect, and to cause the Army Reserve to be proud of me. After all, not only am I a major asshole, I’m a major in the USAR.
Your superior,
Commissar’s Narcissism
Commissar Poodle
Major, USAR
You know what, Common Puddle, you are an idiot. The fact that you are childish enough to call someone out on their appearance as if it is reason enough to not like or support a candidate.
I started watching the debate but turned it off after it became obvious that it was nothing more than “I know you are but what am I”.
Amateur Night was a frigging bust.
My takeaways?
HRC deflected and said nothing of value and nothing new. #HowdyDoodyTIme
DJT got her one time on the emails but other than that was an epic failure. #getanantihistamine #please
The reason Reagan was so great is that all of his messages were positive. Trump’s negative Nelly approach made me cringe.
“Well, there you go again.”
Reagan was a -master- of the “nice guy nut-punch”.
#getanantihistamine
Spew alert, please. Luckily, food intake chamber was empty.
I thought trump would (and should) be better at counter-punching. Hillary got her teeth into the business of Trump stiffing contractors and his weak response was that “Maybe they didn’t do a good job.” He should have said, “Hillary if you’d ever actually created anything, especially something as huge as a skyscraper, you’d know that there are always numerous sub-contractor disputes and there is sometimes substandard work that should not be paid for. Of course the losers are going to claim they got stiffed. Anybody in the construction business knows that; but then you’ve never built ANYTHING have you?”
I thought trump would (and should) be better at counter-punching.
This, indeed he was too easily flustered and too easily baited. It hardly helps him look presidential.
Of course his opponent was nothing more than a voice over evading every question asked with a scripted response that was so wooden it also made Mitt Romney seem human, which I thought was damn near impossible.
These two looked like the freshman debate team last night, one sweating blowhard and one smarmy boot licker thinking she’s a know it all when the reality is something else entirely.
So, what you’re saying, VOV, is that I could have snowed both of them under?
Well. Maybe I should.
*spew alert*
This is trickle down economics. I want a quiche for supper tonight. I’ll go to the store and get half & half, eggs, a block of cheese and some coarse-ground black pepper or Mrs. Dash. I will also pick up a loaf of crusty French bread and a bottle of wine.
When I get home, I’ll put the quiche together – it’s a real simple deal, too – but the ‘trickle down’ comes from the cash I pay for the bread, wine, cheese, eggs and dairy. I already have the piecrusts in the freezer. The trickle down? The store gets the retail price, the 1.75% tax I pay on consumables goes to the state for tax revenues, the employees get paid by the store owner, and the vendors (eggs, dairy co-op, bakery and vintner) get their vendor price from the store.
There’s also the gas I put into the tank of my car. A popular gas station will get a larger revenue flow from its customers than a less popular place, and the owners have all told me when I asked that they make their biggest income from the stuff they sell NOT related to the gas in your car. That includes the newspaper in the stand by the door, the Snickers ice cream bar and soda you picked up, the can of synthetic blend oil for your car’s engine, and the jug of windshield washer fluid.
That’s how it works. Anyone with a working brain cell can understand that. I am quite sure that Trump understands that a whole lot better than Lester Holt or Hillary Clinton, because he runs a business and neither of them can say that.
No, she has NEVER run a business in her life. However, she has GIVEN PEOPLE THE BUSINESS for a very long time.
You forgot the money you pay for the electric, gas and water. You know, that trickles down and pays other peoples electric, gas and water bills.
The average TAH commenter wants quiche for supper tonight. They go to the store and get a frozen quiche and three bottles of red wine…
There, I fixed that part of the theory for ya.
It should really read “a frozen quiche and a case of Andre Cold Duck”
Just breaking it down to its basic elements, guys.
I’m not sure that the Poodle understands anything about basic economics and how commodities relate to them, but then, neither did Mao Tse-Tung. As a result, 20 million people starved to death in China.
In fact, I doubt that the poodle even knows where the coffee and dairy come from that go into his half-caffeine foam-whipped latte, never mind the cost to the wi-fi provider for that ‘free’ wi-fi.
Commie Boy: “But they always make fun of me. It seems no matter what I write, someone attacks me!”
Shrink: “Did it ever occur to you not to go there or at least refrain from commenting?”
Commie Boy: “But I want them to respect me, to recognize that my opinions have value!”
Shrink: “This is only our second session together, and all ready I don’t respect you or value your opinion. Maybe you ought to move on.”
Commie Boy: “Wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.”
Glad I swallowed before reading that.
This has been some of the funniest shit I’ve read in a while, thanks to the sheer ignorance and cranial flatulence of Lars the Poodledick.
I think his real problem is that he expect us to just take HIS word for something instead of providing any research from valid sources, and no, Mother Jones is NOT a valid resource. Never has been.
Let me explain basic commodities. No, wait — I’m going to go make a quiche with ham and cheese for supper, cook up some long-grain and wild rice to go with it, nuke some broccoli in the microwave, let the brie sit out and warm up for dessert with that nice, crusty loaf of fresh French bread and a good glass of my last bottle of Lost Cellars. I’ve been saving it for just such an occasion.
In regard to wealth, the idea that wealthy people hoard cash is so utterly ignorant that it blows my mind. They spend money like it’s going out of style. They’ll pay far too much for real estate in a pricey neighborhood, for the sole privilege of looking down their noses at their next door neighbors. The ‘trickle down’ effect of that is the cost of construction the oversized and overpriced McMansions that they lust after.
As Becky, of Becky’s Homestead has said, you don’t need quite so many rooms. She left out the part about ‘unless you have a ridiculously weak ego and a need to sneer at other people’.
A lot of laughs emanated from my corner of the room today!
Did you just say nuke? War monger!!
Did any bacon trickle down into that quiche?
Ham, dear. Ham, mostly because of the hams on the TV networks last night.
Ham is good!
Spinach too….
I’m thinking that I should experiment with slice Roma tomatoes and chopped onions mixed with sauteed pancetta, although I did buy that for pasta carbonara, not for a quiche. But what the heck – I can get it again as long as the store puts it in the case.
I was also thinking of a hash of Spam, onions, potatoes and mushrooms turned into a frittata, which is just the quiche, but in a skillet and cooked on the stovetop instead of in the oven.
I may try that!
Fried pancetta or Italian raw?
It’s Italian bacon, not smoked. I wouldn’t eat any pork raw.
You can google any of the information I posted and find you own source.
You guys accept that trickle down economics works on faith alone.
You don’t like my sources check the fact themselves. Look at the changes in income disparity and wealth disparity. Hell, look at trade deficits.
We have largely applied trickle down economics and neoliberalism for decades and it does not work for the majority of Americans.
Stagnant income and debt is all it generates while turning the finance industry into a rogue criminal enterprise.
The wealth disparity also concentrates political influence and power into the hands of a tiny fraction of our pollution leading to the emergence of a plutocracy and a loss of democratic accountability.
Do your own research but flat dismissing what I posted on faith along merely because it does not align with your ideological assumptions about trickle down economics. Assumption you have little empirical evidence to support.
I am sure you enjoyed your military pay. Just think of all of those children that went to bed hungry because mommy and daddy were taxed to death.
Did you ever participate in The Thrift Savings Plan managed by the rogue criminal enterprise?
‘a tiny fraction of our pollution’ — What?
‘rogue criminal enterprise’ – again, WHAT?
What in the blinking, blue-eyed world are you talking about?
Are you referring to the fact that you can’t find a job because you have a worthless degree in nothing? Or is this just another way of telling us that you don’t know your shit from shinola?
You don’t make any sense. And this is why is is SO EASY – FAR too easy, in fact – to point at you and laugh, poodle. You are so out of touch with reality that if you keep heading in your current direction, you may never get back.
Zika Poodle yips and yaps about income disparity, I wonder if he considers the degree to which it exists in say, Venezuela where we hear about kids passing out in school due to malnutrition while the richest person in that country, Hugo Chavez’s daughter, the ruling party inner cirlcles and their cronies live high on the hog?
Considering you don’t appear to know what the first chart you offered as an
“example” to “prove” your point actually says, maybe you’re the one who needs to look for better sources. Or maybe go brush-up on basic economics and the difference between “nominal” (e.g., current year) and “real” gains.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=68178&cpage=1#comment-2905198
Hey ZIKA-POODLE, unlike you nearly all of us have made it successfully both in and out of the Military. I myself have made it in more than one blue collar field where I make more than I would have with the four year degree I was pursuing and guess what? I have acquired job skills that are FAR more in demand than what you’ve wasted a ton of time and likely a dump truck or three of money. I’ve been a around the block FAR more times than you and I’m sure there are other TAH Regulars that could make me look tame. Less regulation and fewer taxes are what stimulate economies. Lady Margaret Thatcher was right when she said “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” Just look at Venezuela as one example!
Aha! “Income disparity!” that old shibboleth!
The spread of incomes has a fixed end, zero, and an unfixed end, the richest person. The disparity is the delta from least to most.
In any conceivable growth scenario, there -has- to be an increase between the richest and the poorest, because the poorest is fixed at “nothing”.
They will bring us all down with that stupidity! it is sheer envy and greed on -their- part, that someone else might be making “too much” in some insane belief that the richer somehow “stole” it from someone else.
They wreck whole nations with this creap, kill -tens of millions- of people through starvation and dictatorship, and still wont ever admit it is all a fever-dream insanity by a lunatic named Marx, who wrote with complete sincerity that the -sole- component of value of a thing is the work that went into it. Not a particle for how much someone wants it, or needs it, just how much work went into it. You can destroy that idiocy in about five minutes of lucid thought.
And yet, advocates of Socialism (of all stripes) just cannot admit they are simply envious and greedy, and too freaking lazy to go do the work to make themselves wealthy.
“Making Money”, an expression meaning to create wealth, is almost definitively American. A motivated idiot can enrich themselves honestly here, by -creating wealth- and keeping it.
And the various socialist nincompoops keep “trying harder”, breaking as many eggs as they can get away with. But don’t fear them! This time they will finally get it right. Have faith in Marxism/Socialism/Third-wayism/snake-oil-dejure.
Translated – “DA MAN is keeping my ass down”. “Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Workingmen of all countries, unite!”
I can tell when Lars has been pontificating on a thread without even opening it up. If the comments reach 100 plus, then I know Lars has been around…
Lars aka Commissar Poodledick aka Zika Poodle, the one who makes himself a human dart board!
Only Lars can somehow think that Zika was relevant to a thread about border security.
And he wonders why nobody takes him seriously…
I infer that the Zampolit is either:
A) a simulated intelligence routine, cooked up by a programmer, bought by Jonn to drive comment counts and spew-forth clickbait.
B) Someone who really likes abuse, but is desirable to be abused by higher-class persons than the usual expensive rentals such folks usually summon via online ads.
There is a C) possibility that Zampolit sees the volume of laughter as an objective measure of self-worth, but doesn’t realize that it is not laughter in the stand-up-comedy sense.
I suppose D) “True believer in Socialism” is possible, but he seems too intelligent for that. His approach is all wrong for it. The hardcore believer usually speaks in well-known Marxist formulas. I see only fragments of it.
Hmm. I have to conclude that he is getting ego-stroke from the uproar, as he keeps coming back for more.
Said the bear, as he left: “Admit it. You are not here for the hunting.”
I think its “B”, he likes the abuse…but it makes me wonder what his safe word is?
I’m thinking “Commies.”
Don’t fear them.
Great, now I have Blue Oyster Cult…banging around in my head.
“Don’t fear the Commies”…
If it’s a “simulated intelligence routine”, Jonn needs to ask for his money back. IMO he got gypped on the “intelligence” part of the simulation.
I read that I’m supposed to be upset that some people work mighty hard to eke out a living and that some others who don’t just keep getting wealthier and wealthier. It doesn’t upset me. I don’t envy a rich man any more than I look down upon a poor man. Besides, what is regarded as poor in the USA is middle class living elsewhere. I don’t pretend to know economics, but I do know human nature, and this concern about what others get is used by the rabble-rousers to inflame people, to make them hate the rich, to convince those who, by chance or choice, are consigned to sweep out the factories owned and operated by others that they are being cheated. Bernie banked on it. Wide Load, despite her millions, is trying to do so. Trump, meanwhile, makes no apology for his riches. I rather admire that. I do not suffer from pennies envy.
Hitlery Cankles used class envy rhetoric more than a few times last night and I’m sure it was fed to her via an earpiece. I don’t mind people enjoying the fruits of what they’ve earned honestly. Look at when say taxes are cut, the rich man no longer needs to hide it in tax shelters and say he wants to buy a yacht. It takes a number of people to build said boat and it requires material from many sources and all along the chain there are others earning an income. Trickle down economics works, I couldn’t care less WHAT Zika Poodle says.
Yeah, I have no trickle-down issues, except when I shake too little after a piss. I am a simpleton when it comes to economics. I have that brain-washed view that I recognize in you, too. I have yet to meet a poor fellow who hired anyone to do anything. However, there are a great many gov’t employees who rely on that poor man to stay poor. It’s called job security for the gov’t employees.
“We should measure welfare’s success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added.” Ronald Reagan
Liberals WANT as many people as they can get dependent on Government, they see that as insurance on getting democraps reelected.
Well, but API, Zippy the Zikapoodle does not have the faintest idea how to build a business from $-0-.
Since there are plenty of people in this country who have done exactly that and been quite successful at it, the mere idea of becoming successful makes them criminals, in his view.
This isn’t even about what kind of work is involved. It’s the simple fact that anyone who wants to take advantage of the opportunities offered here, such as Andrew Carnegie who started out as a messenger for a telegraph company and later, because he could operate a telegraph, worked for the Pennsylvania Railroad, can do so and make a huge success of his life.
The Zikapoodle doesn’t have what it takes to be like that, so he blames everyone around him, especially people with any serious money or real success, for HIS failures, which are entirely his own problem. He is exactly the kind of person who will embrace lysenkoism as the way to run agriculture, when in fact, it caused the starvation of 5 to 8 million people per year for 5 years in the USSR alone, and in China, 36 millions.
He simply cannot stand seeing other people succeed while he is left behind because of his own stupidity. Why? Because the success of those other people can’t possibly be due to the fact that they’re smart and he isn’t.
He doesn’t think for himself either, he takes the claptrap his profs feed him as Gospel and craps his britches when anyone disagrees with him. He just MIGHT wake up one day and see how badly he has been misinformed and misled or he’ll just be that perpetually grumpy and miserable little man down the block never having any kind of job other than some Government Bureaucrat in a cubicle. He doesn’t want to ever think outside the box he has let his profs put his mind into, thus he’ll never have the entrepreneurial spirit that the likes of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates or any other self-made Tycoon had and harnessed.
But that’s exactly what I meant. He’s not in classes now, so he has nothing to do but hang around some place to get attention and bitch at people who do not kowtow to his pontificating, when in fact, what he says is dumber than a box of bent hinges.
He’s never worked at anything outside the Army, by his own admission. He has no initiative at all, and I would bet he doesn’t really want it. He’s nothing but an errand boy with no destination.
And about as useful as a blind bus driver or rubber lips on a woodpecker. I remember reading a letter my Great Grandad sent me when I was still a rugrat (Mom saved it) part of it said “I sent you some balloons and a pin so your Mom and Dad can blow them up and you can stick the pin in them and watch them go BOOM!..” I see Commissar Zikapoodle as making himself the balloon and making everyone else enjoy sticking him to watch him blow up!
Headline reads “Trump Plans To Attack Clinton Harder At Next Debate”. He interrupted her 51 times on Monday – does that mean he’ll interrupt her 100 times at the next debate? The guy has the patience of a 4 year old boy.
Trump continues to demonstrate that he is totally unfit to be C-in-C.
So you say that Hitlery Cankles is the one you want?
API. You’re talking to Joe as if he’s a real person.
I wonder if he’s another Zika Poodle like Lars craving attention, a shit-for-brained Kool-Aid head or a paid Soros Troll.
He’s one of those talking dolls from the 1960s. You pull the string and he repeats the same message over and over and over again.
I think this explains Joe. The effects are reputedly irreversible and permanent.
Yeah, this is who I believe won the debate:
https://www.google.com/search?q=photos+from+spin+room+at+debate&biw=1920&bih=964&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisl5qGnrLPAhWFPiYKHbN_Bo8Q_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=hot+fox+news+correspondents&imgrc=5e_4jovEpnQx0M%3A
I don’t know who won, but I know who lost:
The American people.
AMEN!