Another sailor won’t stand for anthem
MikeM sends us a link to another story about another sailor who won’t stand for the National Anthem. We talked about one earlier this month, but Janaye Ervin wants to join her;
Military.com reports that the Navy has published guidance on the subject;
A message directed at active-duty sailors and reserve personnel on active duty cites Navy Regulation 1205, which mandates that personnel in uniform must stand at attention and face the flag when the national anthem is played. It also notes that a Navy administrative message published in 2009 requires Navy active-duty personnel in civilian clothes to face the flag, stand at attention, and place their right hand over their heart.
“Additionally, Sailors receive training on the appropriate usage of social media, and must not use it to discredit the Naval Service, and should be reminded it could potentially be used as evidence against them,” the guidance continues, a message apparently directed at the two sailors who published posts on Facebook about their protests.
Failure to comply with these regulations, the message said, is punishable under Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and constitutes commission of a serious offense — grounds for administrative separation from the service.
Category: Navy
Oh, but this bitch was whining about having her clearance yanked. I hate everyone. >:(
She should lose a stripe, as well.
I just got through going over her Twitter feed. Aside from the mandatory Annual Training (2-3 weeks out of the year), I’d be surprised if she has any Active Duty Service at all, much less any deployments under her belt.
Yet, here she is as a Second Class Petty Officer….
Must be nice to be in a critical rating like IS and make rank every cycle no matter what your performance metrics are.
???? like these reinforce my stereotype of Millenials, what a bunch of shallow self-centered LITTLE SHITS!!
Proud, you’re holding back! Tell us how you really feel! Booger eating swamp donkey, that help? I’m not worthy!
“It also notes that a Navy administrative message published in 2009 requires Navy active-duty personnel in civilian clothes to face the flag, stand at attention, and place their right hand over their heart.”
I reckon the Navy didn’t get the word.
Many years ago, the Pentagon AND the Veterans Administration issued a statement authorizing military veterans in civilian clothing to render the military, “Present Arms!”, instead of using the civilian custom of placing the hand over the heart.
Here’s the URL for the video recording which repeats the official announcement:
https://youtu.be/Ee3mMZ1mIbE
Which part of the Federal gov’t is responsible for opposing that commie lesbian org, BLM? Which part of the Federal gov’t is enabling or causing any state or local police officer to shoot an unarmed citizen? I would like to know. Maybe one of these socially conscious retards like the sailor here or Craperdick can ‘splain that to me.
Sorry there John. I put my comment as a reply to you. That is a mistake.
@ 2/17 AIR CAV :
I kind of figured that.
Mox nix.
Yup, ever since I got that memo, I’ve rendered honors to the flag via standing at attention and rendering a salute while in civilian clothes. I’m both a veteran and still serving reservist.
One time, outside of the commissary, I heard the music associated for the lowering of the flag for that post. I stopped walking towards the commissary, faced the direction of the music, stood at attention, and rendered the hand salute in the direction of the music.
Until then, service members out of uniform, retirees, and their dependents continued on until they saw me. At that point, they stopped, faced the flag, stood at attention and placed their hands over their hearts. They didn’t get the memo.
Ewww.
Sorry but this marine doesn’t salute while uncovered. Old habits and all.
What are you doing outside without your cover?
Place yourself on Report, Marine.
It seems that some old habits do die.
Authorizing but not mandating, John. As mentioned below, Marines do not salute uncovered or in civilian attire. For the longest time Recruits were taught to stand at attention and face the flag when in civvies, I believe that was changed to hand over heart a few years ago. I’ve never seen an Active duty Marine in civvies do the hand over heart, only PoA.
ZERO EXCUSES THROW HER ASS OUT !!!!!
she is all over social media whining about what the big bad navy did to her
DAMN POS
Agreed. Navy should flush this turd and be done with it. She went against regulations knowing the consequences. Did this dumb c@nt forget she waived 1st Amendment rights when signing on the dotted line? The US Government is not responsible for her not thinking sh!+ through, so toss her sorry a$$ to the curb and not even bat an eye. Hell, she should have been blanket-partied 10 times by now and shouldn’t f@cking want to stay in the service.
I think she should show she really means this protest…by refusing the paychecks, returning everything she has been paid so far (it’s tainted money after all), demanding court-martial when she goes up for punishment, asking for an enlisted panel, and making a really inflammatory statement in her defense.
This is bullshit! Follow orders and directives or face the consequences. The only exception is an illegal order but I have my doubts if she could tell the difference.
She’ll probably argue that any order she doesn’t want to follow is illegal.
What’s next a fucking armed forces union??
Yup.
Shades of Andy Stap!
The Dutch Army had a union. Being an ex-EM, I found that a really goofy idea, but they have legal marijuana.Hmmm. Then I saw this picture of one of them wearing a hairnet, so his curly locks didn’t get caught up in the works of this
machine gun “he” was using.
General McChristian had the press after him (whatta shock) back in the 60s, when he had the PXs at Hood pull copies of Esquire. There was an article in it by Stap arguing for a union for us peons.
I’ve been hoping to meet him, ever since. A little close order knuckle drill, just on general principles.
Let me be clear, Stap, not the General. He was DCSINTEL just before I was drafted. His book said he started out as an infantry scout.
Only if Hillary Obama gets elected.
Screw this broad…..Dishonorable Discharge.
Mabus will protector! Commissar Poodledicski will protect her! She’s a SJW and she has RIGHTS!
/sarc off
When will this shit end?
Sadly, it never will.
They’re just getting started.
END?
Ready for the USS JANAYE?
Yeah, she’s got a right to sing the blues, and a right to feel lowdown.
Alright, that’s over.Back to real life.
Does the Navy paint rocks and pick up cigarette butts? Ah! The chipping iron!
Duties in line with her declared sensativity.
What we used to call the duty platoon. Back in the OLD Army. (chuckle)
Throw their asses out with a Big Chicken Dinner. No VA benefits, just a swift kick in the ass on their way out.
By by “TOP SECRET” clearance. That’s gonna leave a mark.
I graduated in the mid eighties from a Military Academy high school where we were mentored by WWII, Korea and Vietnam Vets when we weren’t in class. Disrespecting the U.S. Flag would get one an ass beating as well as a blanket party after Taps and ditto when I was in Basic and AIT. WTF are they teaching these snowflakes these days, SJW bullshit?
Escort her to the gate, thank her for her time served, and ensure that any other special little snowflake that wants to join her protest can join her in the unemployment line. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Yup, this right here. Isn’t the military trying to draw down? Way to make yourself a target, sailor.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/janaye.ervin
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Janayestayfly
Locked up tight as a drum.
I am curious about the GoFundme campaign listed on her Twitter account.
So if the world is not perfect for this bitch, she has a hissy fit?
SELF-serving little snot. 10 minutes with some in-country VN, DS, OIF/OEF vets. Form a circle, put her in the middle of it, and don’t say a word. Just stare at the bitch for 10 long minutes, then turn your backs on her.
She pisses me off.
Is she a PO3? RIR, kick her ass out.
PO3 with 8 years in the Naval Reserves, advancement must be tough.
PO3 and she’s got 8 long years? Damn! I made PH2 2 years and 4 months after I left boot camp.
Must be something in da stupid with her.
Belay my last. Upon further inspection of her collar device, she is in fact a PO2.
She must not have paid any attention in leadership training and is a pathetic excuse for a Second Class Petty Officer.
Methinks it’s likely she skated by playing the race and gender cards and “riding the EEO Wagon” to an undeserved rank and position.
Welcome back to the 70’s….
BITCH! Little attention whore. Throw her ass out with a BCD and start making examples of all these shit stains. They want to protest, fine, get out of the military and protest to your hearts content. But in service, in uniform, you behave and act the fucking part.
Fucking bitch.
To borrow from one of stupidest military commercials ever made, ‘To get to you, they have to get past her.’ That’s a comforting thought.
They can have her. I’ll even deliver.
Yeah, she’s not standing up to anyone for somebody else. She’ll only ever be standing up for herself and what she believes in.
Hopefully, when she gets kicked out of the Navy with Malice, that’ll be what every other employer identifies about her for the rest of her life.
If she is truly representative of the current Navy, I think I will continue to carry my own gun, and protect myself, thank you.
We’re here to preserve democracy, not to practice it. I think a little time in the brig would do wonders for her outlook on life. I really miss Corrective Custody Unit. CCU would be the fix for this.
In addition to an ass-kicking.
Absolutely, an old school ass kicking.
Damn straight, Gunner.
The old CCU out at Stone Bay Rifle Range at Camp Lejeune.
I’m sure that this precious, special little princess would really enjoy her 30 days out there.
Oh yeah.
I have been told, by a former CCU resident, that you are there until they deem you to be corrected. It may be a day. It may be a week. It could be a few months. This individual did time in the brig and CCU, and he preferred the brig, because when you get sent to the brig, at least you know when you will be getting out.
Roger all.
I referred to ’30 days’ in my post because in the early ’90s, we sent a couple of knuckleheads to CCU, and their ‘sentences’ when they were sent out there were for 30 days each. They may have kept Marines out there in CCU for longer periods of time, but our two came back after successfully completing 30 days. Maybe that’s the catch: ‘successful’ completion of the assigned time in CCU.
And both of them were completely changed after 30 days in CCU. They both became stellar Marines, and we never had any further problems with either of them.
I think the Army would benefit from a return of CCF’s, those straightened out more than a few misfits and if they didn’t the CoC’s knew it was time to Chapter them.
Lump these jerks in with those who did the Syrian intervention protests. A shame to the uniform, all of them.
She definitely doubled-down on that stupidity. She protested and advertised it. THEN, protested getting spanked for it by protesting in uniform on social media, advertising it again with her Navy uniform on.
Its like they don’t believe the hundreds of stories of service members already getting spanked for what they do on facebook, twitter, etc. (Especially when they use their real name)
Good riddance to a shit bird, sweetheart your generation needs to learn a few simple realities.
None of you are really that special, no matter how many participation trophies you’ve managed to acquire. That’s an important first lesson, the second lesson which ties into the first is that the world doesn’t care if you live or you die because you’re not that special, your absence is no more missed than the random antelope taken by a lion. Or the random lion dying from illness or injury. Life goes on without us, no matter how “important” we were when were alive when we’re dead life goes on without us rather easily.
That sounds a bit rude, doesn’t it princess? That nobody gives a flying fuck whether you live or die, and nobody outside your family thinks you’re all that fucking special. But guess what that’s the real world. How you make a difference, is what you put into the world in terms of actual effort and not symbolic twattery that achieves nothing except momentary notoriety followed by zero action on your part to change anything.
If you really believed the stupid things you’re posting the simple means to effect change is to finish your commitment and then run for office to generate legislation that actually creates a change in the law, or at least join a legal action committee to force pressure onto officials who will generate legislation on your behalf.
Instead, like so many of your generation, you chose a meaningless display of selfishness and offered it as something of value. It is not in any way meaningful.
Here’s hoping you learn your lesson after you’ve been administratively separated for being a turd and you can actually move forward with some positive results beyond mere display.
If not, well then fuck you…you idiot.
She’s such a stupid vapid little attention whorebag that even IDC SARC wouldn’t fuck her. Not even a grudge fucking.
/I say off with her head.
Naw, ChipNASA. Ignoring the bitch would work a whole lot better.
She’s just another attention whore who picked the wrong theme to get attention.
“None of you are really that special….” And below,Misfit says, “Welcome to the look at me generation…..” I point those out b/c I just watched a riveting documentary of the Iwo Flag Raising and witnessed the evidence that points to the inescapable conclusion that 19-year old Marine Harold Schultz was one of the flag raisers but was never ID’ed as such. So, what did he do? Nothing. He got a job with the post office and went about his life. Never a peep. It wasn’t about HIM. It was about the USMC on Iwo Jima. Amazing contrast bewteen these attn whores and real warriors.
What do you call an intel puke without a clearance? Janitor.
Lars?
or Admiral
Racist bitch!
There would be nothing left or IDC to hit after I got done with her NEW Training regiment.
for
digit to cranial interlock miss fire.
Where there’s smoke there’s fire…u can bet she had a laminated EO card she would play for any trivial reason…claim racism when faced with personal failure…I avoided these creatures like the plague when I was in uniform…they often got good folks fired because no CO or ISIC wanted “racism” on their watch…
Welcome to the look at me generation followed by doing the wait there are consequences for my actions? Too many seem to forget that when you sign the paper and raise your right hand you give up some rights especially when wearing the uniform. They forget the importance of because we are supposed to be a political when we put on that uniform so there is no chance of the military becoming a political force like in some third world countries, we live, we train, we fight together, and at times die together. Politics, race, religion, etc never matter only that you can trust and count on your battle buddy or shipmate and not worry they have another agenda. Too many have become spoiled self entitled brats that seem to thing the world is owed to them and lack the perspective of the harsh realities of life in other nations. If life is so terrible and unjust in the U.S. why are so many willing to fight and die to get to the U.S. and many go on to serve proudly in our armed forces. Well come to reality IS2 and thanks for letting your brothers and sisters down.
Jeepers…and all this time I thought all the bullshit that occurred before the civil war,(The Underground Railroad and strangers who took in the travelers as they followed the Drinking Gourd)..during the War to Free the Slaves (Republicans vs Denocrats) The Reconstruction (Republicans and exslaves murdered by the democrats with glee and then the Freedom Riders,the Equal Education,the Equal freedom……it wasn’t Republicans at the lunch counters or Republicans standing in the school doorways as the brave little kids walked past screaming democrats …occurred to Set You Free. Wrong again,I guess.Since you are not happy where you are, why don’t you go see the chaplin,getyour ticket punched,and get the hell out of OUR MILITARY.
I’ve been tracing my Family Lineage and so far I’ve found that TWO of my Great-Great Grandfathers were Civil War Vets that fought for the Union. I’ve still yet to hear a “Thank You” from the SJW left and I know I never will, it gets in the way of their self-victimization and societal infestation of white guilt!
If I were her CO, I would do everything in my power to boot her sorry ass out.
She would be “dead” to me.
I’ll take command of a NG IN CO sometime in the near future. My inner sadist is coming up with so many ways I’ll make any similar SJ whiner in the unit miserable while awaiting separation.
Not sure which of them are legal. Not sure I even care.
You’d better care, lest you end up being the one made an example of.
Does the Navy “Drum” people out anymore? A pal of mine told the story of witnessing a guy being “Drummed out of the Corps” in the sixties. He said that as a young Marine, it scared the shit out of him and he would do anything it took to get his Honorable Discharge. I can’t imagine the humiliation such an event would cause me. Of course a snowflake would not have any idea of the gravity of the rite. Her response would be “Fuck all youall”
Jonah Bennett, senior reporter at The Daily Caller News Foundation here.
I’m trying to uncover the identity of the first sailor, who refused to stand for the anthem. Navy isn’t releasing her name.
What I know so far: she is a seaman apprentice (E2) and she is a student, in training to become an Aviation ordananceman. (AO)
She is/was at NAS Pensacola.
Shoot me an email if you’ve got any info: jonah@dailycallernewsfoundation.org
I’m scrolling through the FB link here where it was first posted to see if anyone has names…
https://www.facebook.com/usampwtfm/
Comment:
Evan Malone: Her last name is williams. She’s a yeoman in my barracks. She’s an AO
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Another comment
Ernie Kovac 🙁 She WAS a Navy Student…
– She went to ‘Captains Mast’ &..
– Currently Living in ‘Restricted Barrack’s
– Awaiting DISCHARGE Paperwork!!
EeeeeYES, I hope that’s true!!! Now the USN has an attention-whoring PO they need to shove out the back door alongside yesterday’s trash!
She is not awaiting discharge paperwork, which is why I feel this story is worth pursuing more.
“She is not being discharged or separated,” Meadows added. “She will be able to move on to her next duty station as planned.”
https://www.navytimes.com/articles/this-sailor-sided-with-kaepernick-sat-out-anthem-now-the-navy-is-taking-action
Well THAT sucks…..
I certainly hope you can get some more information and maybe bring this to light.
Got-damn weak ass leadership, or full lack thereof.
And her FB page also has a post from August 2015 stating she was gonna slap her a Master Chief and that she didn’t respect rank.
Oh, she gonna learn now.
Whoa.
‘Stand by for heavy rolls’.
I hope the entire Goat Locker and her COC find out about this and stick their horns up her ass. REPEATEDLY
She needs to suffer the full weight of her actions. I see shit like this as an effect of the new age “touchie-feelie” shit that the left has infected and infested the U.S. Military with, I wonder what we’ll see next?
Is she a Petty Officer in the USN? Shitcan it.
I’m pretty sure this mindless cretin didn’t pay attention to all of the words in her enlistment oath.
From Title 10 USC 502
Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
“I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”
You know the ones about obeying the orders of POTUS and the orders of officers appointed over me according to regulations and the UCMJ.
I may take some heat for my opinion, but I would not discharge the person simply for some flag-disrespect and a few other dumb-ass posts.
Oh no. No. No. No.
I rather strongly suspect that our little disciplinary issue mentioned above would like that very much, in a “don’t throw me in that briar patch” way.
Sweetie, you signed on the dotted line for X years, and X years shall you serve. Plenty of shit jobs wasted on Good Sailors and Good Marines. Your clearly underutilized talents for shitty-ness will be directly employed. When not serving as the shit-job-lackey for every color-guard detail on post, you will be emptying bedpans at the base hospital and scrubbing toilets there and elsewhere. Between those, you will be re-painting over every detectable graffiti found on post. Your communication to the world will be via postcard. Your food is conditional on doing your assigned duty. Slack off, and we will find more interesting shit-jobs for you. Take it like an adult, show some self-control, and we may put you back into more regular duties. Up to you if you finish your tour as a Sailor, or as a shit-shoveler.
No quitting. No. No. No. No way. No -easy- way out. Nuh uh, nohow.
Word gets around of this little turd-blossom’s no-quit fate, and you will cease hearing about deliberate disrespectful shit-baggery.
Bitch and moan over beers at the club like all the other folks. Everyone gripes about something, after all. Just knock off the shitbaggery, hmmm?
Kinda with you on the not rewarding bad behavior with the attention apparently wanted by ingrates such as this. Give them plenty of attention, but not the sort they crave. Assignment at a very isolated duty station with limited social media sounds appropriate.
Camp Buehring, Kuwait sounds like one good place. Rocks, sand, scorpions, yep that’s All.
I’m guessing she got the memo sent to only a few … those with a hard on for all things with whom they have a grievance. You know: Rules, regulations, customs, etc. I’m thinking only a few got that memo.
Want to stop this shit within a month? Admin sep these turds, hopefully with bad paper. Let them swim upstream in America with bad paper while still believing they are the victims of damn near everything.
Now future potential employers, when they google her, will see her for what she is, and that, IMO, will not be flattering.
Court Martial her and then give her a dishonorable discharge for misbehavior before the enemy at a time of war.
I hear Diego Garcia is nice this time of year. Or Klefavik. A nice supply depot someplace miles from anything. The possibilities are endless, for someone with the right “attitude”.
People need to wake the hell up before they have allowed it to happen. There’s black F O P organizations, black this and black that. How long before they create a black military member’s organization and start making unreasonable demands?
They WANT a damned race war, in my humble opinion. As has been for decades they are allowed to pull and use the race card whenever they don’t get what they want; whenever they have to follow the same rules and regulations that were created for every swingin’ dick regardless as to race, religion, or color. You mthrfckrs keep begging for a race war and you will get your wish sooner or later.I don’t owe any one of you any damned reparations for something that happened way over a hundred years ago.
Think I’m kidding or exaggerating? A friend of mine who is a former LEO sent this. You take a look at the demands made during the disturbance at Charlotte. Keep in mind MANY of those raising hell in Charlotte were from out of state. Let me know if you want proof of that. Meanwhile feast you eyes on the TRUTH http://lawofficer.com/2016/09/charlotte-rioters-list-of-demands-includes-reparations/
They won’t get reparations. They can’t even get an education so how are they going to get reparations?
jarhead. My latest favorite is the association of Black doctors who recently urged oBaMa unilaterally to ban menthol cigarettes b/c they are the choice of Black smokers. #BlackSmokersLivesMatter
As for reparations, they have been being paid, with huge increases under oBaMa, for many years. They’re just not called reparations.