More Navy uniform changes
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WASHINGTON (Aug. 3, 2016) The Dept. of the Navy announced that it will transition from the Navy Working Uniform (NWU) Type I to the NWU Type III as its primary shore working uniform. While, the NWU Type I will be phased out over the next three years, effective Oct. 1, 2019, all Sailors will be expected to wear the NWU Type III as their primary Working Uniform when ashore or in port. (U.S. Navy photo illustration by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Julia A. Casper/Released)
The Navy Times called the “Type 1” uniform that the Navy adopted a few short years ago “the dumbest uniform ever”. I disagree – the ladies looked real good in that uniform, I don’t know if it was the style or the colors, it was just attractive on the women, to me anyway.
This from the Navy;
Over the next three years, Sailors may wear either the NWU Type I or III, but effective Oct. 1, 2019, all Sailors will be expected to wear the NWU Type III as their primary Working Uniform when ashore or in port.
While the Navy is developing an incremental regional fielding plan for the NWU Type III, this transition period will give Sailors time to prepare for the change and allow them to get maximum wear out of recently purchased NWU Type I uniforms.
For those of you who love Ray Mabus, these uniform discussions have been the focus of his time as the Navy Secretary, because it’s easier to make uniform decisions than it is to fight a war;
Category: Navy
Someone please tell me why sailors on a ship need a cammo uniform? The old dungarees were distinctive and cool. The blue cammo, meh, this is just kind of dumb.
Exactly. I have always thought it was bullshit.
When I was a EUCOM staff puke, I remember the CO at JAC Molesworth, a Navy Captain, directed that all squids were to begin wearing cammies.
Reason?
So that all the services would feel more like one team.
Brother! What a crock.
Having written this, I have to say that I like the way the new cammies look. Nice design. Wouldn’t mind a pair for myself.
But if I was still in, nothing would replace my khakis. NOTHING.
I would use the cammies to work around the house.
Tropical khakis. the best uniform ever. You could roll them up in your duffel and never hurt the creases. Cool, short sleeves, and they looked great.
The trouble was that various venders (suppliers) had differing dye recipes. Some tended toward green, others toward yellow. You could get a mismatch between the shirt and trousers which could look horrible.
Nice travel uniform.
MC,
Wait a couple of years. The Navy will change its mind (again), and you’ll be able to pick up a set cheap.
I wonder if they’ll melt in fires just like the aquaflage did?
Yeah, sorry, but give me a set of FR dungarees any day.
Indeed. God forbid Sailors actually look like Sailors.
If anybody actually saw that “Battleship” movie* (if you didn’t, don’t bother. Apart from Brooklyn Decker in a bikini, you missed very little), you might remember the extra-cheesy part where USS Missouri gets reactivated (okay, that was kinda boner-inspiring, but the rest of the movie was still dumb as all hell). The main cast are in NWUs, while the old vets wear khakis and/or dungarees. The main cast look like retards dressed up to buy a “Call of Duty” game, while the old vets look like badasses you wouldn’t want to fuck with.
What’s the point of the NWU anyway? I thought the whole point of the old dungarees was to have a damn-near-indestructible uniform for dirty work on a ship, which I understand can be quite dirty and absolute hell on textiles. And what in Christ’s name is the point of a camouflage uniform that’s not supposed to blend in with anything?
* Don’t judge me! My wife wanted to see it, it looked like a lot of shit blowing up and ass being kicked. What could possibly go wrong? Very, very much, that’s what.
Dude, I am so judging you.
Yep, I’m with Atkon on this one.
Totally judging you.
Hey, it only happened once!
You guys suck.
Once too many! pffft….
Make love to a thousand women, nobody cares.
But suck one little dick….
“Make love to a thousand women, nobody cares.”
And IDC_SARC would call you an amateur….
oh come on, it was a ridiculous fun movie. If I want reality I’ll rent “Cocksucking Politicians of Virginia”. At least it wasn’t directed by Peter Jackson, who could stretch a one-car funeral into a 12 hour epic.
The bluish camo was so when a sailor fell overboard he could blend right in with the water… I am so ready for someone to just say “to hell with it, bring back green fatigues” in every branch.
The purpose of the camoflauge is to hide stains. I sh*t you not; that was one of the comments that came from way up the Navy food chain back when they were first considering the aquaflauge.
I guess the switch to green is to make one easier to find in the drink.
I am left wondering though, what is the NWU type II?
NWU Type II is the desert camouflage and is authorized only for SEALs.
Not only for SEALs they don’t wear any of those uniforms actually, it was more theater specific (OEF).
The uniform pattern she’s wearing looks to be what our NSW (SEAL/SWCC) students are currently wearing, including the shoulder insigs.
There is no NSW type III or Type II, for now that uniform is worn by NWS/NECC The Navy changed over in 2012 to the type III you see in the photo. Noe they do have operator pants and other combat items that do go with that uniform and will be mission and unit issue only.
Not to be contrary but I just walked over to a SEAL here and he identified the cammo pattern he’s wearing as NSW type III…I walked to another room and asked another one and got the same answer NSW III
Oh come on. You’re always trying to be contrary Sarc.
Do they have to shine their boots?
I hope not. Such a waste of time.
Damned good question…that is the stupidest son of a bitch to come along since “Z grams”! I guess you can hide camo better on a ship in the ocean that dungarees! The old uniforms were outstanding, they were comfortable, they all folded and fit in the tiny lockers we had back when Noah was first mate, and they came out the lockers looking fresh pressed! The blues were easily identified..and a classic uniform, assholes like this contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, so they make changes like Zumwalt to justify their existance! Not only that, can you imagine how much freaking money all this uniform ph-cking around with costs?? imho
Idiots. Uniforms are not fashion statements. Put light blues back into the working uniform for summer, willya? We women looked good in that one, too, even if some of us were built like brick outhouses.
And just what was wrong with dungarees and chambray shirts for deck crews and sloppy work jobs? I never have figured that out.
Here’s a little history of WAVES uniforms, from WWII. Mainbocher was contracted to design smart, timeless apparel. I guess someone like Raymie Maybe, who has too much time on his hands, doesn’t understand that these are working clothes, not fashion statements.
http://coutureallure.blogspot.com/2009/05/mainbocher-and-navy-waves.html
I think they cost less than the camo uniforms too, didn’t they? Along with the fact that the denim and cotton didn’t burn quite so easily if near flames.
A redesign of the dungaree trousers would have gone a long way. They were rather uncomfortable when trying to work around aircraft (They tended to pinch your nuts.).
Ashore, the only time I wore Dungarees was Watch or Quarters. Any other time I was in a pair of coveralls. At-Sea, it was Flight Deck greens.
I think the Dungarees should come back in some form. Part of the reason is so Officers and Chiefs would wear Khaki, to make that distinction. Besides, I think a Sailor wearing a white hat in dungarees looks pretty cool. Makes me think of those guys in WWII.
While your at it Ray…get rid of those Black and Tans and bring back the Working Blues and Working Whites.
You damned straight! bring it all back and throw that ignorant asshole out on his butt!
There was a slight suit of sorts for WAVES, the dark blues wool slacks with the dark blues service dress jacket. The problem was that it was winter weight clothing, and jumpsuits were/are much more practical.
Eeeew! Did not proofread!
‘Slight suit’ should be ‘flight suit’. My bad. Sorry.
From the “He who has no sin let him cast the first stone” department:
You’re forgiven else we condemn ourselves.
Dungarees are part of the Navy history.
They were relatively cheap to replace if they got doused in JP5, grease, or any other fluid/substance.
This whole ‘blueberry’ bullshit was just some pentagon asshole who wanted tacticool and ended up with WTF?
Ex-PH2…Please tell us more about the brick outhouse okay.
We aims ta pleaseya, Sparks!
http://www.jldr.com/ohstonmt.html
HAHAHA!!! Not what I meant and you know it! But…an out house is an outhouse.
And we all had our hopes up!
https://youtu.be/-5EmnQp3V48
“The old dungarees were distinctive and cool.”
Distinctive yes, but never cool. Well, I guess it depends on the context of cool.lol
I liked the jumpsuits much better. Doing shipboard work in dungarees was just a PITA.
If I was just seeing patients, dungarees were fine, but as the department DCPO and 3M Rep, Fire/R&A/Nuclear Accident Response guy…..dungarees just didn’t work.
Trying to keep your shirt tucked in and your pants on properly when bending squatting, doing overhead work or crawling around was a constant nuisance.
I don’t see where the average Sailor needs cammies either though, or that they would be advantageous in doing traditional jobs involved in running and maintaining a ship.
Well, for real practicality, what is wrong with a jumpsuit or onesie?
Your pants pinched you? Yes, that was the real problem with any kind of mass produced clothing that didn’t allow for alterations, and dungarees really did not. The women’s version (cotton slacks) were too short in back and too long in front, so if you had to squat to get stuff off the bottom shelf, everything pulled out.
It will be for shore duty assignments only and deployed shore units. The reason to just use the NWU III is you have around 100,000 sailors that will always wear the type III and this way they would not be required to purchase the Blue like they had to and never wear them This will save on unit funding, not having to provide uniforms to everyone. The special units NSW/NECC mission added uniform items like FROG gear and combat shirts will still be issued. The main thing is just the uniform itself will be a purchase item now.
They are looking at a uniform like the coast guard has for ship use.
Poppy suits and tennis shoes underway.
Ah, good times. Good times.
The poopie suits were much better before the regulations came out about what you could put on them. I remember something like 6 different types of embroidered Gold and Silver Dolphins, not to mention the folks who just used the metal versions…
Bullshyt…dungarees were all I wore on ship or on base for 4 years……NO PROBLEM!! once in awhile we wore the working blues on base…but the rest of the time was dungarees! camo costs a bunch compared and they are stiff and ridiculous for Navy IMHO
I think the real problem is that Raymie Maybe doesn’t like women and wants the women to look just like men. So why not hand out Ace bandages and tell the women they’re required to flatten their upper assets and stuff the lower section?
He needs to be kicked out on his useless ass as soon as possible.
No, Raymie is just jealous that he is only an A cup. He really wishes he was DD.
Fucking turd.
Doesn’t like women? He is the one spearheading changing the names of rates to be gender neutral, a true SJW.
Agree that he should go, not his biggest fan.
No, he really does not like us girls.
Here’s a brief history of women in the Navy. During World War I, women were recruited to fill mostly clerical jobs. They were enlisted at Yeomanettes. Note the feminine ending, which was appropriate. When WWII rolled around, the -ette ending on Yeomanette was dropped and WAVES in that rate were simply Yeomen.
Some of the changes that have been made deny the history and the reality of women serving their country.
Mabus needs to be told ‘Get on the bus, Gus’.
You bet and A.S.A.P.
Next up, rainbow colored spandex cammies.
With sprinkles?
And unicorns.
Don’t forget the Brony patches.
I liked the dungarees with the “iron on” rank and name.
Yeah I remember those, we had them for our cammies too. They were great..unless you effed up the process of ironing them on.
I agree, still beats sewing….
I like the boots….she can leave em on.
Reminds me of the night my (then) GF was on duty and she she left her boots on while I pummeled her on top of her CO’s desk.
“Blotter” takes on a whole new meaning, eh?
Bwahahaha! Yeah we were young and impulsive, but we were careful not to invite disaster by leaving a wet spot anywhere.
What a bunch horseshit. Just have sailors where NWU’s that are the same color blue as the coveralls. All these cammo patterns are fooling no one. Back in my day (83-87) we wore dungarees to quarters and coveralls the rest of time in Engineering Dept. Every so often they’d make guys change into dungarees to eat on the mess decks which is understandable considering how dirty snipes can get.
This will not be ship board uniform. This will be shore duty and ground deployed units.
They are coming out with a Coast Guard type uniform for ship board use.
Give me wash Khakis and Poopie suits any day. I hated the aquaflage with a passion.
Congressman Textile District again voted appropriately, I see.
Well, now aquaflage surplus will be available at all the surplus stores. Something one can wear on holiday hikes, no doubt.
It looks like they are attempting to look like Marines.
Well, being that you brought it up, many of us old(er) Jarheads have been somewhat puzzled as to why the Navy didn’t just simply keep on wearing the same camouflage utility uniform for field use that the Marines have, rather than going with that blue camouflage monstrosity. The Navy had been doing so back to WW2, and maybe earlier, and it seemed to work just fine. The only difference was that the Navy utilities had “U.S. Navy” on the left breast pocket instead of “USMC”.
Some of us were proudly Marine Regs. lol
My Alpha’s are the only uniform I actually have hanging in a garment bag in the closet, though it hasn’t seen sunlight since 2006 when I put it there.
Doc:
“Marine Regs”. I haven’t heard that in a very long time. Brings back a lot of good memories of the FMF Corpsmen that I served with over the years.
We always greatly appreciated it when you Corpsmen went “Marine Regs”. It meant a lot.
Semper Fi.
P.S. I also still have my Alphas, but I couldn’t fit into them now if my life depended on it. At least not without testing the maximum tensile strength of the wool gabardine fabric, or putting others at risk of injury from bursting/flying buttons.
Primary. Shore. Working. Uniform
How many uniforms do sailors have? This is starting to sound like they are designing costumes for HMS Pinafore.
This is the MCPON that stopped Chief’s Initiation. Thank goodness I’ve retired, this is not the Navy I joined back in 1983.
Is it just me or did the ‘high five’ at the end of that look a little wussie?
“In other unrelated news, Ray Maybe will be transferring to his new job at a defense contractor selling uniforms to the services in 2017.”
The Navy: Constantly searching for solutions to non-existent problems. Bring back the dungarees. Stop trying to blend with the other services’ uniforms. Ray is going to be a defense consultant/contractor/advisor/shill in some capacity. Stop trying to fix problems that, IMO, do not exist. Follow the money.
How much money is wasted on all these damn uniform changes every year or two across the services? I know the people on the uniform board have to do something to justify their jobs, but c’mon, this is just dumb!