Washington Post “what ifs” violence

| November 6, 2015

Chief Tango sends us a link to the Washington Post‘s editorial board as they war game two separate incidents that happened this weekend. One, in Colorado involved a gun man who was carrying his long gun openly and subsequently gunned down three innocent citizens before police returned the favor in kind. The other, was the knife-boy terrorist who stabbed four people in University of California at Merced – he was also shot and killed by law enforcement.

The editorial board complains that there were 9-1-1 calls in regards to the Colorado gunman because he was carrying his rifle openly while riding his bicycle, but that the 9-1-1 operator didn’t take the calls as seriously as he/she should have because open carry is legal in Colorado. And “what if” the California stabber had a gun instead of a knife?

Imagine if Colorado weren’t so permissive in allowing people to openly display guns. Would that 911 operator have recognized the danger more quickly and would lives have been saved? Similarly, imagine what would have occurred if the attacker at the University of California at Merced had wielded a gun instead of a hunting knife. Would there have been fatalities instead of injuries, and would there have been additional victims before the attacker could be stopped? Indeed, would the construction worker who bravely broke up the attack have been able to do so if a gun were involved and not a knife?

The Colorado gunman was a nut who shouldn’t have owned a gun. He made blog postings about how we all deserved to die. In fact, most people who engage in these types of random shootings have displayed behavior that should have precluded their ownership of firearms. “What if” prosecutors, legislators, law enforcement, medical professionals and journalists took that seriously?

And the little jihadist terrorist boy with a knife? California laws prevented him from having a gun – he was only 18 years old. So I guess it’s too much for the Washington Post’s editorial board to admit that there were sufficient laws in place to prevent that incident from including a firearm. In fact, as we read yesterday, the construction worker has changed his mind about concealed carry laws. He wished that he had a gun that day – but that little fact shot right over the head of the Washington Post’s editorial board.

I am not a big advocate of open-carry, but not so much that I’m going to condemn the Second Amendment rights of those who prefer that method of personal protection. Police easily spotted Colorado guy with his openly carried firearm, so open carry advocates should consider that factor as compared to concealed carry.

It is simple nonsense to liken the damage that can be caused by a knife — or baseball bat or whatever other weapon the gun lobby feebly offers up as an alternative — to the lethal capacities of guns.

Yeah, um, dead is dead whether the death is caused by a knife or a gun or a hammer. It’s simple nonsense to think that we should put our trust in the police to bring their firearms to the scene of a crime to protect us from criminals with “a knife, or a baseball bat, or whatever”.

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ChipNASA

I think the federal government needs to ban the Washington Post because you can roll it up and swat someone with it and the density of their diatribes could injure and kill someone very easily

Ex-PH2

Is that why it’s also called WaPo?

I think it’s good for a lot of things, such as putting under trays of cookies fresh from the oven, to keep the countertops from being damaged. It’s also good for wrapping garbage, and you can’t really beat it when you shred it for packing material. I was seriously thinking of shredding it, compressing the shreds into balls, soaking them in something flammable but slow-burning like kerosene, and using them as firestarters. Another use for the shredded WaPo newspaper is cat box litter substitute, when the real littler runs out, and then there’s using the shreds as a way to aerate the soil in your flowerbeds. It decays when it isn’t packed down tight, and adds carbon to the soil, plus some nitrogen if the ink used is soy-based.

HMCS (FMF) ret.

Fish wrap… that’s all it’s good for…

Ex-PH2

Please don’t insult fish like that, HMCS. 🙂

A Proud Infidel®™

WHOA, ChipNASA, WHAT IF someone were to soak an issue or two of The Washington [Com]post in water, roll it up and freeze it/ Then they’d have a heavy club capable of being a LETHAL WEAPON if used in a clubbing assault? Then the perpetrator(s) could just throw them in a trash can while they melted, and *POOF!* a nearly untraceable crime. THAT’S IT, we need to ban The Washington [Com]Post!!!

Ex-PH2

Oh, dear.

You simply can’t fix stupid, you know.

Thunderstixx

One smack from a hammer or baseball bat can kill you just as quick as a handgun can. You probably stand a better chance of dying if you are in a fight with someone with a baseball bat than a gun.
Handguns are notoriously weak and tons of people survive getting shot if it’s not in a vital organ like the heart or brain. Lung shots, liver, gut or extremity shots aren’t a death sentence.
There are a lot more spinal cord injuries with guns now but that is because emergency departments are much better at their jobs.
A lot of people that would have died even ten years ago are now surviving because of that expertise in emergency treatment.

Azygos

In the United States the stats are that 80% of those shot with a gun survive.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

What if…

The WaPo had half-way decent reporters/writers/editors.

Now there’s a “What If” for folks to ponder.

OAE CPO USN Ret

WashPost: “Imagine if Colorado..”

Which prompted this memory of my dad:

“Imagine if a frog had wings then it wouldn’t bump it’s ass on the ground when it hops.”

UpNorth

Imagine, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Cpl/Major Mike

Had an uncle that used to say “if the dog hadn’t stopped to shit he’d have caught the rabbit”, then he would add “and if you hadn’t stopped to eat it you’d have seen a damn good race”.

David

NBCguy – that is ‘way too big a hypothetical. Go for something easier, like ‘what if there were world peace’?

SFC D

imagine whirled peas

HMCS (FMF) ret.

“What if…” is libtalk for “mental masturbation”

OWB

Without realizing it, the WaPo has made the case for individual citizens depending upon themselves for protection from the nuts who casually walk among us.

Ex-PH2

Well said!

GDContractor

Every time I see that Thelma and Louise photo of those two idiots with their AR clones in the restaurant, I become more convinced that they were DU operatives. Stupid should hurt.

In regards to WaPo, we could all play the “what if” fallacy. What if hospital staff washed their hands more frequently? How many lives could be saved? Etc… [yawn].

Dapandico

If the one witness following the whack job giving a play by play on his phone to 911 would have been armed…

Instinct

Reminds me of a show that used to be on called Deadliest Warrior. They had one that was Yakuza vs Mafia.

The expert for the Mafia showed on a pig carcass the damage a baseball bat could do to the spine (shattered two or three vertebra). Once he was done the Yakuza experts response was “Big deal. I can do that with my leg.”

Yes, guns are deadly. So are legs, fists and bats.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

I was married to an old bat once. Yes, they can be quite dangerous.

CA_SGT

Was the stabbing religiously motivated (Jihadist)? I read that his manifesto claimed it was because he was butthurt because he was kicked out of a study group. I know he planned to get a gun by attacking a cop, which con control couldnt have stopped (unless they want to disarm police as well).

MSG Eric

Don’t give them any ideas….

Common Sense

What if gang bangers didn’t have illegal weapons in weapons-free Chicago where they lured a 9-year-old to his assassination for his father’s gang activities?

Doesn’t his Black Life matter too?

UpNorth

Not to the blacks in the gang that wished to show their manhood by executing a 9 year old. Or to any of the blacks who get off by shooting anyone they see.

MSG Eric

I’d say they don’t matter to those “leaders” in the black community who are race baiters. If that 9 year old is killed by white people, you hear about it everyday non-stop and all white people are evil.

Because its blacks killing blacks, they don’t make money off that, so they don’t give a rip.

Hondo

And in other “what if” news: if a frog had wings, he wouldn’t bruise his butt every time he jumped.

But a frog doesn’t have wings. So playing the “what if” game here makes no difference in reality.

Roger in Republic

If “If’s, and But’s” were candy and nuts we would all have very nice Christmas.