Ryan Lonergan; veteran confronts phony at school
A few days ago, someone sent us a link to the story of Ryan Lonergan, an Iraq War veteran who is working on his Masters Degree at George Williams College in Wisconsin in social work that would enable him to help veterans adjust to this insane civilian world we all live in after our service.
Some doofus came up to him in the school’s cafeteria and started telling Lonergan a fantastical story about the student’s career as a Marine Corps officer. Lonergan drilled down into the student’s tale until the student finally admitted that he was FOS. The real veteran got a little loud and the phony ran from the confrontation. For Ryan, the story ended right there. Until he got a letter the next day from the school administration.
They claimed that Lonergan had violated their policy 4.13.a below;
According to Fox News 6 the disciplinary hearing was scheduled for yesterday, but it was cancelled. Our friends at Badger Pundit send us a link to their yeoman’s work on an article on the subject.
I’ve decided not to run some of the videos that I’ve seen lately because the folks who confront these phonies behave badly. I’m not saying that Ryan behaved badly – it sounds as if he mostly handled the situation like an adult and the school’s administration are over reacting. However, we have to measure our response to these phonies unless we all begin to look like bigger assholes than them. Let the judges and prosecutors get emotional.
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When and IF I have to confront someone pulling this crap, I’m going to do two things….
1. Whisper
2. Knife hand
Until they piss themselves and/or cease fraudulent behavior. If someone of legal authority is handy, I will recruit them to assist in affecting said panty wetting.
I would think that Ryan needs to take his studies and VA education money somewhere else…
my thoughts also
I deal with one of these Shit Bags once a month or so. I’m quit, and I let it go in one ear and out the other ear. I figure in time karma will take care of the stupidity and it seems to work all the time.
I was working the check-in desk at the range one day, and it was slow. A guy came back asking about the range, then started telling me about how he was pulled out of the middle of basic training for sniper school. How he outshot the instructors, took the Starlight scope off his M-1 Carbine because he could see better at night without it, blah, blah, blah. I finally had enough, told him he was so full of $hit that his eyes turned brown…. He left shortly after 🙂
So what is Mr. Lonergan’s transgression in the eyes of the human hamsters that run that school? What, making some snotnosed candyassed milquetoast of a Momma’s Boy pee his britches when he got called out on his bullshit by a real Vet?
[…] This Ain’t Hell […]
According to BP, the President of the school herself engage in the same sort of behavior in a private residence this past summer: “Finally, given a recent incident involving Sherrick, there is irony in the fact that Sherrick presides over a university which has brought disorderly conduct charges against a vet merely for loudly cussing out, in a school lunchroom, a student who had falsely claimed to have served as a Marine infantry officer — and that (as Belling discusses at 8:25 of the above video clip) the university refuses to allow the vet to have an attorney present when he’s questioned at the disciplinary hearing. Contrast this minor incident with the incident described by a woman living in a house just a block from the Aurora University campus who recently (in June, 2015) charged Sherrick herself with disorderly conduct. According to the official police report (originally uploaded here; blog post discussing it here), the woman complained that, angry about the woman’s fostered pit bull dog which had briefly gotten out of the back yard, Sherrick entered the woman’s house “without her permission,” “then identified herself as the President of Aurora University,” and started yelling at the woman. Sherrick reportedly called the woman a “criminal for being a pit bull owner and continued to yell about how bad the pit bull breed was.” During her “tirade about pit bulls,” Sherrick “had her index finger in [the woman’s] face . . . no more than 6 inches away.” Sherrick’s yelling woke up the woman’s boyfriend, who had been sleeping on the couch. According to the complaint, even though the woman asked Sherrick several times to leave, Sherrick would not leave. Sherrick “only left the residence after [the woman’s] boyfriend stood up and got behind the” woman. When the police called Sherrick about the incident, Sherrick told them she would meet with the police concerning the allegations of disorderly conduct only with a lawyer present. By contrast, the university over which Sherrick presides refuses to permit Ryan Lonergan to have an attorney present for his questioning during the disciplinary proceeding it has… Read more »
HUH? College higher-ups being flaming hypocrites? Who’d a thought that would ever happen? Had she come into my abode like that, every second of her tirade would be recorded on video and turned over to prosecutors. And if they didn’t do anything about it, then HELLO, YouTube!!
You’re a lot more polite than anyone in our abode. I’m guessing that she would have been heading out the door soon after my wife told her to leave the first time, which would have been followed with the unholstering of some variety of handgun (if she managed to make it past the dog on the way in the house).
Oh TRUST ME, I’d record her while she screeched and ranted, but the moment she made any kind of threatening gesture or acted like she was reaching for a weapon she’d be looking down the barrel of a locked and loaded sidearm, and that’s only if the beloved Mrs. Proud Infidel®™ didn’t throw her out on her ass (My better half is a born-and-raised Farm Girl who’s not afraid to stand her ground)! 😀
Such an intruder in my house would get one warning to vacate the premises. If that warning is ignored, weapons will be drawn and the intruder will be instructed to lie face-down on the floor and await the arrival of local law enforcement officers. Whether the intruder gets shot is entirely up to the intruder.
The last person that tried to force their way into my house came to a dead stop and pissed themselves. It might be because I grabbed my katana out of the umbrella stand beside my door, drew it, and let the point rest just under his sternum.
He thought twice about telling me to mind my own business when his girlfriend’s minor daughter runs to me house for help because he and her mom are fighting. Unfortunately, because of the psyche of most idiots, if it has been a gun leveled at him, he probably would have kept moving. But, pointy things get the point across just as well.
Often better. Someone might miss with a gun, but the average person knows they mess with someone with a knife and a smile, they’re probably gonna get hurt.
There have been two recent successful self-defense situations against multiple home invaders using swords (both Katanas, if I remember correctly) in the last month. And those were only the ones that made the news. In both instances, the home invaders had guns — but you brought up a good point: there is a psychological effect to edged weapons that guns don’t provide.
How do people get into someone’s house without permission? I think that’s B&E or something, isn’t it?
Why don’t any of these people lock their doors?
Disorderly Conduct, the catch-all charge for when nothing else really defines what happened..unruly indeed.
Were this a corporate work place both Ryan and the phony would be out of work. Disorderly Conduct is cause for termination during a confrontation with another employee, he’d be fired for that while the liar would be terminated for false representation. Folks need to be careful where and how they express their dissatisfaction with these embellishers and/or pretenders.
I wouldn’t trust a university board as far as I could throw them. That young man needs to have his lawyer welded to him at that ‘disciplinary’ hearing.
Yep. He should simply show up with the lawyer, and let the lawyer let them know the next step if they deny him counsel. These boards are typically cowards, and will cave in to whomever they fear most at the moment.
I am surprised they did not recommend behavioral intervention.
That is usually how academic types ooze out of a confrontation when their argument, position or stance in public is questioned enthusiastically; especially in public.
Was he violent?
No.
Did he threaten violence?
No.
Was his behavior lewd?
No.
Was his behavior obscene?
No.
Well, then what the heck do we charge him with?
How about honesty and integrity violations?
No, not HIM. He’s the victim! I’m talking about Lonergan.
Maybe they want to penalize Mr. Lonergan for bruising the snotnosed little candyassed milquetoast’s self-esteem and emotions? It’s no secret that most of today’s colleges are cesspools of political correctness telling their little snowflakes how special they are no matter what!
I know every university can’t have an Honor Code like the service academies, but don’t they have rules against plagiarism? Isn’t stolen valor a form of that? Maybe they need to look at their policies on this and start setting an example instead of protecting the phonies.
Plagiarism (a/k/a Biden Disease) is taken very seriously bu schools. The academics get all riled up when anyone steals their work or uses it w/o attribution. Stealing valor? Acting dishonorably? Not stuff they get upset about.
I confronted a stolen valor douche last weekend in DC. Black t-shirt, Army boots with a Marine Corps uniform, laces hanging out, bracelets dangling out of his sleeves…
I was quiet about it, kind-of, but he just ran away telling me “well, that’s your opinion” when I told him he was doing a disservice to the men & women who wear that uniform for real.