Gun violence in New York City

| September 8, 2015

The Associated Press reports that a member of the legacy governor’s staff was shot in the head when he was caught up in gun battle between gangs at New York City’s West Indian Day Parade yesterday morning.

At first I thought maybe he’d been shot by the New York Police Department as part of their bystander eradication program, but apparently not.

Of course, the legacy Governor, Andrew Cuomo is having problems dealing with the incident;

“I’m the governor of the state of New York, and there’s not a thing I can do,” Cuomo told reporters after he visited his staffer’s family at Kings County Hospital. “There’s not a thing I can say, and there’s nothing I can do. And sometimes it just hurts.”

But you can bet that he’ll use the shooting as an excuse to pass more gun laws, you know, even though the tragedy happened in the most regulated area of the entire country, yet they can’t seem to get criminals to follow the laws they write. Even though Cuomo admits that’s there is nothing he can do to prevent gun violence, that won’t stop him from doing something, anything.

I mean, I’m sure that the state called every registered gun owner in the state to see if they had an alibi for their whereabouts during the shooting – that’s the only law enforcement reason to have gun registration in the state, right? So they can solve crimes by trolling through the list of gun owners. Otherwise, the only reason to register every gun in the state is to know where the guns are when they finally decide to confiscate all of the guns, or, at least, particular guns.

But, the article isn’t without a few laughs;

Cuomo and several other elected officials were planning to fly to Puerto Rico to offer advice to the island government grappling with a debt crisis

And maybe Chris Christie will fly down and give Puerto Rico some dieting tips, Joe Biden can give them home defense tips, Bernie Sanders can fly down and give them some business tips.

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Ex-PH2

‘part of their bystander eradication program’ – (SNORK!)

Fell off chair laughing.

Seismic shock recorded and reported by USGS.

Startled cat.

GDContractor

I agree, he has outdone himself.

Funny how the legacy governor and his family are protected by around-the-clock armed security. The little people (staffers), not so much.

Have a nice flight at the taxpayers’ expense over all that water, Governor. I’ll be rooting for the Bermuda Triangle. She’s a hungry bitch.

A Proud Infidel®™

I LIKE your positive thinking! 😀

The Other Whitey

NYPD: the world’s foremost experts in the fine art of shooting bystanders.

Silentium Est Aureum

That kind of shit happens when they follow NY state laws and have a trigger pull that takes a comealong and a 12-lb sledge to pull it.

A Proud Infidel®™

I KNOW, lets outlaw the act of murder and other things that gangbangers do, like selling drugs and oh wait, never mind. What about enforcing the laws that already exist, or would that offend too many precious little liberal snowflakes?

2/17 Air Cav

Words matter. Refer to a gay as a sodomite and, although it’s a true description, the reaction to sodomite is not quite the same as it is to gay, is it? “Gun violence” is a term we are accustomed to reading and hearing. No gun has ever done violence. Place one on a table. Scream at it, whack it with something, threaten it, spit on it, put a hot poker to it and…nothing. “Gun violence” is used to condition us to view guns themselves as the evil, the doers of violence. Who shot Cuomo’s guy? A gun didn’t. Reportedly, a gang member did. And that’s the way it should read, bullets aside.

UpNorth

I got two of my new guns out this A.M. to update our insurance. Neither of them went on a shooting spree, nor did they go off because they wanted to.

Sparks

Four big lies: 1, 2 and 3 are

“There’s not a thing I can say, and there’s nothing I can do. And sometimes it just hurts.”

Number four is “Cuomo and several other elected officials were planning to fly to Puerto Rico to offer advice to the island government grappling with a debt crisis”.

There are things they could do and they are heading out on a taxpayer paid vacation.

GDContractor

Apparently Cuomo is on his way to Puerto Rico as part of his effort to lobby Congress to allow PR to seek bankruptcy protections. Makes me wonder how much of PR’s money is going to make its way into Cuomo’s pocket.

For anyone wanting to understand this global financial mess that we are trapped in, I highly recommend this documentary (full length, free)

To summarize, money moves, fees are collected, nothing gets produced, stats are fabricated, productive taxpayer takes it in the ass, rinse, repeat.

NotBuyingIt

Several years ago (okay, a couple of decades ago) I visited Puerto Rico for an extended time. At that time (and I suppose to this day) PR had very strict and restrictive gun laws – probably more restrictive than NYC’s.

One thing that struck me was that the daily news contained reports of murders at a rate at least as high as any US state, but the weapons of choice were edged weapons – usually machetes. I found it instructive and drove home the point that its not the weapon, but the wielder that commits the crime. Maybe Cuomo will find that too. Or not. I doubt he’ll read the local news or stay long enough to see a pattern.

(Now there were areas – particularly in San Juan – where there were PLENTY of guns, but those were trafficker enclaves, cordoned off by police/national guard, rarely reported on and not visited by regular folk. But those were industrial-strength bad areas where PR law essentially didn’t exist, so it’d be hard to draw any conclusions from them.)

The Other Whitey

Having once made the mistake of dating a Puerto Rican girl for a year of my life that I’ll never get back (I was 18, so was she), I can say that anybody who lives on an island surrounded by Puerto Rican chicks and doesn’t arm himself is insane.

It’s kinda funny now, but when my Grandpa first met her, he immediately asked me, “Boy, are you crazy or just fucking stupid?” At the time, I thought he was being racist, blinded as I was by the novelty of ANY attractive female not only acknowledging my existence, but demonstrating a willingness to have sex with me (and apparently EVERYBODY else as well, but I didn’t know that at the time). Now I know better.

MustangCryppie

I’ll cut you some slack. Knowing some of the incredibly hot Puerto Rican women I’ve known, an 18 year old can be forgiven for thinking with the little head.

A Proud Infidel®™

During my AD Army days I had a Puerto Rican Platoon Sergeant (former DS as well) who warned us to NEVER marry a Puerto Rican woman.

Hondo

“At least as high” is a dramatic understatement.

In 2013, Puerto Rico’s homicide rate was 26.2 per 100,000 residents.

In that same year, the highest US state (LA) had a homicide rate of 10.8 per 100,000 residents. The US national average in 2013 was 4.7 per 100,000 residents.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2014/01/08/plagued-by-violence-bad-economy-puerto-rico-rings-in-2014-with-bang-13-murders/

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/4tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_4_crime_in_the_united_states_by_region_geographic_division_and_state_2012-2013.xls

But at least they had a lower homicide rate in 2013 than Baltimore, Newark, and Detroit.

MustangCryppie

I was born and raised in the NYC area.

I came home on leave when Dinkins was mayor. The potholes were a mile deep and they seemed to reproduce. 14th Street was like an obstacle course. And never mind walking around the city…anywhere. and there were neighborhoods where you took your life in your hands if you went in them. Bed Stuy anyone?

I came back next when Giuliani was mayor. The potholes were gone and I felt comfortable walking anywhere in “Da City.” I remember being pleasantly surprised that Harlem had become a safe neighborhood. It was an excellent time.

Guess that history is repeating itself. Dinkins lives! Thanks, DiBlasio!

Jarhead

How long before the mayor of NYC gets involved? His solution, nothing larger than a .22 can be sold.
As for the rocket scientist gov., you suppose he has ever heard of phones, email, snail mail or any other form of communication? You can damned sure bet he and the rest of his cronies, while “advising” on management of taxpayer dollars fleeced, they will all be staying in five star hotels right on the beach where they can suck up the caviar.
I’m in TOTAL agreement with GDContractor’s comments and the volumes he did not expand on. The damned gall politicians have these days makes it clearly evident NONE of them have any shame! What kind of a dumbass would tolerate the actions of politicians these days? Worse yet, even consider re-electing even a dog catcher? Nothing will ever change until the day when nobody votes with an I. Q. of at least two digits.

B Woodman

“But you can bet that he’ll use the shooting as an excuse to pass more gun laws, you know, even though the tragedy happened in the most regulated area of the entire country,”

Yep. Followed just as well as the gun-grabbing SAFE Act (about 80-90% none compliance).

David

AND… he came out with “well, our laws work but no one else’s are s good so now we want everyone to pass our laws so you can be as safe as NYC.” Right on cue and on time. It’s like watching the mutt when Pavlov rings the bell.

FatCircles0311

Aren’t gang members easily identifiable? I mean that’s the whole purpose of a running crew.

Maybe they should ban gangs?

Nah, Dindu Nuffins would riot.

2/17 Air Cav

Dindu Nuffins? That’s a keeper.

charles w

Let’s all celebrate diversity!

Richard

He said, “I’m the governor of the state of New York, and there’s not a thing I can do,” Cuomo told reporters after he visited his staffer’s family at Kings County Hospital. “There’s not a thing I can say, and there’s nothing I can do. And sometimes it just hurts.”

I assume that he wants to help. What does he think that he COULD do that WOULD help? If he outlawed guns in the State of New York (and the law was constitutional, etc, etc) and all law abiding people were disarmed, there would still be guns in New York state and the gangs in The City would still shoot at each other. How would this help?

David

You are echoing the logic of gun-banners like Rahm Emmanuael, Cuomo, Pelosi, et al – if we only ban some of the guns, there are still other guns elsewhere – so we ban them too. Eventually they want all guns banned everywhere, not just in states, but across the entire country.

And, if you look at the UN treaty on small arms trade, eventually, world-wide. No one will be allowed to own a gun anywhere… except of course for the police and military that enforces the power elite’s laws. (Now we have wandered over into the New World Order fantasy…damn, it’s hard to keep them all straight!)

Richard

I guess I didn’t communicate clearly. Suppose that we actually outlawed firearms across the country. There would still be a LOT of guns in the US – owned by people who would use them to victimize the rest of us. The law abiding people who owned all of the guns that were turned in would be victimized by those who did not turn in their weapons. The guns owned by law abiding people are not the problem. The guns owned by the criminal segment are not really the problem. The problem is the criminal segment itself. Our criminal justice and social systems have not figured out how to prevent people from behaving in criminal ways. Crime delivers enough benefit to offset the risk for some people. We can either reduce the payoff, increase the risk, live with it, or find some other solution. Gun control reduces the criminal’s risk so I think it is a bad idea.