“Curiouser and Curiouser”, Said . . . Pretty Much Everyone
By now, I’d guess everybody has heard about former SECSTATE Clinton’s use of a private email server for official business email.
While Clinton’s private email server appears to have been wiped clean of data before being turned over to Federal authorities, copies of many emails it formerly stored were apparently transferred to a USB “thumb drive”. That thumb drive was in turn apparently transferred to Clinton’s lawyer, David Kendall in December of last year.
A sample of email stored on that thumb drive was later reviewed by Intelligence Community (IC) officials. Those IC officials determined that some of those emails were contained classified information.
That determination happened on 22 May of this year. But it wasn’t until early July that Federal authorities delivered a GSA-approved safe allowing proper storage of classified information to Kendall’s offices.
So, riddle me this. How and where was that classified thumb drive stored between 22 May and early July? Why wasn’t that thumb drive turned over to the government – perhaps in a sealed envelope after a joint inspection by Clinton’s and the Federal government’s lawyers – on or about 23 May in order to ensure it was properly stored and safeguarded?
And, perhaps most importantly – besides Clinton and her Kendall, who else had access to the device between 22 May and early July?
Inquiring minds want to know!
FWIW: it also appears that Clinton’s aide and confidante extraordinaire, Huma Abedin, also had and used an account on that email server. And it still remains unclear whether the internet hosting service from which Clintoon rented the server – Platte River Networks – did or did not maintain a backup server that might shed further light on these . . . somewhat unusual goings on.
I just don’t think we’ve heard the last of this. Stay tuned.
Category: Crime, Foreign Policy, Legal
Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. – Marmion, Sir Walter Scott.
In the 80’s it was shredding memos, today it’s wiping private email servers.
Doesn’t surprise me that Hill maintained a private e-mail server. Just her changing with the times. Supposedly when she and Bill moved into the White House and found out there was still a old fashioned switchboard phone system with a operator, they had it torn out on the off chance someone might listen in on them.
If there were not automated backups, that in itself is highly suspicious. No competent IT admin fails to back up data regularly and store backups off-site.
I should add that it doesn’t mean Platte River isn’t competent, some providers just lease the space, it’s up to the lessee to manage the site and the data.
When talking about a cluster fornication of these proportions, I.e. Hillary Clinton’s email server, competence does not enter into the equation. If, for example, this cluster fornication was done competently than perhaps a managed server would have been leased from a provider that specializes in the handling of sensitive email. More importantly, perhaps, being an attorney Hillary is more than likely at least remotely aware of the basics the legal profession adheres to when dealing with work related emails which, had she followed, would have at least mitigated the proportions of said cluster fornication.
That would all be true – IF the intent was to run this email host as a business or government IT service.
However, IMO that was not the intent.
The intent can be summed up in five words words: “off-the-record” and “plausible deniability.” Taken together, these phrases describe both the reason the server was on a private hosting service and the reason why no backups of the server are available.
So, once again, may I ask whether Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton completed any mandatory training that is needed to get access to government computers? Just off the top of my head, there is training required for classification marking, Information Assurance, record retention, and let’s not forget everyone’s favorite document, The Non-Disclosure Agreement. If they choose to do nothing to her, than anyone whoever was reprimanded, fined, censured, fired or imprisoned for a ComSec violation has a good case to appeal.
Hack Stone, as always it’s a Clinton she is above the law this crap makes me sick, in the end the DOJ are going to clear her, the whole thing is her and the DOJ Are B.S. they are playing a game
Clinton style and the low info voters are playing along
GO FIGURE!!!!!
I handle abosolutly zero classified information at my current job and I still had to go through classes before I could log onto the system.
Hillary for Prison 2016!
How is locking Hillary up in a cell with a bunch of women that don’t have sex with men supposed to punish her? That is like sentencing Bill to 300 hours of community service coaching an all girl basketball team made up of chubky girls with low self-esteem.
Change to read “chunky girls”. Hack Stone Publishing regrets the error.
Chubby + chunky = chubky
Gone Hogging Is a better way of saying it
That fits. Bill C was from Arkansas, after all. Go Hogs.
Hack – Monica was one of them thar “beefy babes”, so my guess is that Bill likes a “little cushion for the pushin'”, if you know what I mean…
All the women he’s forced himself onto have said that Sickslick Williepete has a crooked dick. I don’t think he actually porked Monica. I don’t think he could get it up any more and all he got from her was a BJ.
Bill Clinton & Obama just happened to “accidentally” bump into each other on a posh golf resort near Martha’s Vineyard? Umm ok…yeah, I guess I believe that.
The IGs for the State Department and the Intelligence Community are apparently reviewing communications hardware and software used by five different Secretaries of State. The stories I’ve seen indicate that Clinton wasn’t the only one to use her own email server after complaining that State’s was inadequate. It will definitely get interesting.
What is good for General Patraeus is equally good for Mz. Hillary Clinton. While he was man enough to step up, fess up, resign, and ask for forgiveness, she will stonewall, lie, evade and watch the fucking (forgive me Pastor) bleeding hearts who elected Obama elect her. Strong message to follow ;>))
Somebody get a rope! Or better yet a piece of piano wire.
It’s interesting that her LAWYER admitted that he received the thumb drive from her. That means she passed him classified materials. I am fairly certain that he was not cleared to receive them.
I wonder if it sat on his desk for a week or two, while the cleaning crew plugged it in and viewed it.
in a GSA Approved desk drawer..
The big thing here that people don’t seem to quite “get” is that it’s impossible for classified information to just show up on an unclassified system. It isn’t a case of someone “fat fingering” in anything. The reason I say that is because in the US government systems are broken down into the following:
JWICS – The most sensitive information (like the TS-level documents found in Hillary’s email) are stored in this network.
SIPR – Secret-level information.
NIPR – This is the unclassified system. There is ABSOLUTELY NO CLASSIFIED DATA EVER STORED ON HERE.
None of these systems are “linked” to each other and it is done this way so as to ensure there is no “spillage.” Now having said that, the question is “how did that information get brought down from JWICS to an unclass network?” Simple, somebody – likely one of Hillary’s underlings after she told them to do it – burned the classified documents onto a CD/thumb drive, then transferred those classified documents to a unclass computer. There is no “accidental” or “negligent” acts here. This was INTENTIONALLY DONE. These people also can’t say that they “didn’t know,” because every US government employee from the executive-level down to the lowest-ranking private in the Army regularly goes through quarterly training on the proper way to access and store classified material. In other words, if this doesn’t become a criminal investigation and if she isn’t held accountable, then somebody needs to start raising some hell…
You forgot one thing, StaticLine: motive.
What’s the motive? Money? Greed? Ego?
What’s the motive for doing all that and then acting like an unbelievable ditz (I can’t keep it all straight!) when questioned on it?
Ex-PH2 you bring up a good point, what about the motive? For that, look to the foreigners donating large sums of cash to the Clinton Foundation, Huma Abedin and Sidney Blumenthal. I’ll bet my retirement that all three are connected…
Oh, and consider this – what if some of those documents found in her email led to the deaths of our fellow Americans? Whether she had intentionally ordered the illegal uploading of classified material onto an unclassified system is not in doubt. Needless to say, I have a very bad feeling that we’re going to find out that some of those emails were compromised and led to a few deaths. Remember, one of those documents was classified “TS//SI//TK//NF,” meaning it was more than just satellite imagery. The document in question was a fused intelligence product consisting of imagery, SIGINT intercepts and HUMINT – which looks a lot like a Target Intelligence Packet.
You make several good points, especially about Benghazi, although it’s no secret – never has been – that the people there knew ahead of time that an attack was coming and asked for extra protection.
What that skankazoid has to answer for is WHY she didn’t send it as requested. When she tried to blow it off in the Benghazi hearing, I wanted to throttle her. It was very clear that she did not care at all what happened to them.
Frankly, I think she will flat-out lie her way out of this, but it will come home to roost anyway. She’s not royalty. She’s just another democrap.
Agreed, but I’d go one further – I think the reason this thing as gone as far as it has is because this is Obama’s way of throwing Hillary under the bus. I’ve always thought that after the 2008 primary he offered the Secretary of State position because it was his way of “keeping friends close, and enemies closer.” I personally think he’s trying to set up either Sanders or Warren for the nomination. So she may not see jail time because of who she is (although she should see jail time), I do think this will ultimately prevent her from securing the nomination. In the end she’ll have no choice but to drop out of the race…
We could very well see a Sanders-Warren Democrat ticket. If that doesn’t “galvanize” the liberal base, I don’t know what will. I’m afraid that we may be in for a rather rocky election. I pray that we don’t end up with Trump or Jeb :/
Just out of curiosity, which of the following authors will write the novel based on these events?
1 – John le Carre
2 – Robert Ludlum
3 – Ken Follett
4 – Tom Clancy
5 – Ian Fleming
6 – Stephen King
7 – Orson Scott Card
8 – Frederick Forsythe
9 – Graham Greene
10 – Len Deighton
11 – Agatha Christie
12 – Georgette Heyer
13 – Lee Child
14 – Douglas Starr
15 – Joss Stiegler
I’m kind of going with Ludlum and LeCarre, with a little bit of Christie’s Miss Marple thrown in, just for good times. Heyer can provide the romantic angle and King can work with OSCard on the sci-fi angle.
suppose it is declasse to point out that half the list have shuffled off this mortal coil?
Oh come on….all of us have stored SI/TK stuff on our laptops and thumb drives. No biggie…no one has said there was compartmented stuff. /s
OBTW, travel plans for cabinet level folks is at least confidential. You telling me she and Huma didn’t discuss travel?
I’m not an LEO or attorney; but it seems to me that now the chain of custody has been obviously and intentionally bungled – nothing can be legally proved and she’ll claim someone else somehow tampered with her stuff. What a surprise. I bet she’s got this covered six ways from Sunday.
“South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy said Sunday that Hillary Clinton will indeed testify Oct. 22 about her activities as secretary of state at the time of the Benghazi attacks but suggested that her demand for a one-time appearance will result in a long, hard day.”
‘“We have agreed on the date,”’ Gowdy, a Republican and chairman of House’s Select Committee on Benghazi, told ‘“Fox News Sunday.”’”
What am I missing? I have to be missing something. Agreed on a date? One appearance? What am I missing? Wide Load is a private citizen. You are, too. YOU try to tell a congressional committee that you will negotiate terms! See what happens. First, you would be subject to subpoena, not a request. Second, there would be no negotiating. You would be entitled to plead the 5th repeatedly and let the world draw its conclusions. I don’t even know if Wide Load will be sworn. If not, no perjury. Again, what the hell am I missing?
Uh, perhaps the fact that she’s Democrat royalty?
I am truly baffled by this. First she gets to testify w/o being sworn and now she gets to negotiate when she’ll appear and for how long. I am baffled. In my dreams, I would love her to be subpoenaed, certainly placed under oath, and then asked the same few questions every which way and hear her say, “On advice of counsel, senator, I decline to answer that question on the grounds….”
Well, I would just love to have a 30 minute session called a debate, but more properly defined as a bitch-slapping contest with that moocow.
I would certainly make sure the audience understands that a) she wants THEIR money to pay for things for other people; and b) she’s not going to pay a cent for anything, ever. That’s for starters. It would be fun.
What? I can dream, can’t I?
NO, Poetrooper, she is NOT royalty. She is just a law student who got lucky, and turned politician, lured by greed.
I want to see her slovenly ass washed out of the whole election process. Whether or not this hearing does that remains to be seen, but no one – as we have seen repeatedly – can get away with being a lying bitch forever, and that includes her old man.
The sooner we get rid of dynastic politics, the better off we’ll all be.
PH2, if we could just get a picture of her smuggling that secret server out of Foggy Bottom stuffed down into her granny panties.
How’s that for an upchuck image, hmm?
Before breakfast? Eeeeewwww!!!!
Just like Casey Kasem, the hits keep coming. Maybe they can do too 40 countdown of the biggest data spills that she is involved. And if they need to run out the clock, they can through in a few long distance dedications to some of those foreign governments that donated to The Clonton Foundation.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/16/number-of-hillary-clintons-emails-flagged-for-clas/
Hack, turn off your autocorrect. It can’t spell. I think it’s been drinking.
I was channeling Paul. Hack Stone Publishing adamantly regrets the errors.
Ain’t auto-correct just a fun-filled mother forklift sometimes?