Dan Noyes keeps the heat on Greg Allen
You probably remember Greg Allen, a phony Marine hero in Marin County, California. Allen told tales about his phony career, including that the movie “Sniper” was about his experiences in the Marine Corps. Our buddy, Dan Noyes, the ABC7 reporter who exposed him, does a follow up interview with some of the youngsters that he prepared for boot camp at his “House of Steel” facility and it appears that, because he had never attended Marine Corps boot camp himself, he used training techniques that he imagined the Marine Corps used, based on his interpretation of various Hollywood depictions of that experience;
Kris Hardy told the I-Team that Allen and his squad leaders sometimes used drinking water as punishment and that in one session, while running laps in a parking lot, he downed 10 bottles.
“We’d have to drink the whole water bottle after one lap,” he explained. “And then we would get another water bottle, have to drink that all down in another lap, and do that over and over again until we vomited back up.”
Hardy says one of Allen’s squad leaders made him do pushups in the mess.
“What kind of person would make somebody else do pushups in their own vomit?” Bull said. “To me, I don’t see how the guy slept at night.”
Yeah, we actually had an ROTC instructor who died from over-hydrating one year at Fort Bragg’s advanced camp. Water isn’t something to mess around with, if you don’t know what you’re doing. And Allen, obviously, didn’t know what he was doing.
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
Someone needs to wreck this guys day. That’s unbelievable and SO DANGEROUS. He could have killed one of those kids.
Thank GODS none of them were seriously injured.
What a SUPER DUMBASS!!
A woman died at a radio station a few years back in an attempt win a contest.
It is called simply “H2O poisoning”.
Too much water in a short amount of time is very dangerous … I thought everyone in the military knew that!
Oh, sorry he was not in the military!
H2) Intoxication:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16614865/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-dies-after-water-drinking-contest/
I’m sure we’ll learn more about this foul creature in times to come, I wonder what else he’s done to other youth in the past, something tells me that only the surface has been scratched!!
He has definitely fondeled something in the past
Looking at the still of this POS fraud in the video link above, I sensed he looked much like a famous movie star …
Then it hit me: SHRECK!
He looks like SHRECK’s younger and fully retarded illegitimate half brother!
Right after downing a few Dutch Rudder Gang Cocktails!
It’s a good thing no one was seriously hurt by this jackass. Tell me again how Stolen Valor is a “victimless crime.”
One Hundred push-ups when you first get there? WHAT? No idea what someone can do, do this until you fail? Smart. Does anyone remember that God Awful Richard Gere movie, An Officer and a Gentleman? Guess where this loser got the hose trick that was mentioned in the video? That someone was not hurt during this little rodeo of his is surprising. But he will be back, they always seem to.
NDSM? Check. He’s ok.
I still find dudeman’s eyes really disturbing. They look like a couple of piss holes in the snow.
I second that pretty creepy I would say
I wonder what the statue of limitations could be for assault or anything like that for any of these poor youngsters.
This FUCKER NEEDS TO BE IN JAIL!!!
Allen is probably looking at a future of unending lawsuits as more and more of his “graduates” learn of his fraud. As for the statutes of limitations, Chip, in most states they don’t begin to run until the tort (fraud) is discovered by the plaintiff.
“Under Code of Civil Procedure § 338, a defrauded person has 3 years–after the occurrence of the fraud–to file a civil action against the defrauding party; otherwise, the defrauded person will be barred from any recovery under California’s statute of limitations.
Nonetheless, California law has an exception to the 3-year rule, known as delayed discovery rule. Under this exception,
The injured party may bring an action based on fraud or mistake more than 3 years after the transaction if the party is able to show that he or she did not discover the facts, and could not with reasonable diligence have discovered them, prior to 3 years before the action. (5 Witkin, Cal. Proc. 5th (2008) Plead, § 929, p. 344.)”
I know a member of the CA Bar that he could hire…if he hurry’s.
Water intoxication is not something to mess with. It literally drowns your brain. If this guy doesn’t kill someone some day, It will be a miracle.
The least charge he can be hit with is fraud, defrauding those kids who thought he was giving them an insight into recruit training.
I am not saying this in defense of this phony clown Allen, so let’s not get the wrong idea here. However, drinking water as a punishment WAS done to members of my platoon on a few occasions when I was at Parris Island in 2001. In particular, I remember a squad leader who was taken to the head and told to drink one canteen after another until he vomited after the fourth one.
I’m not saying it’s good training (it isn’t), I’m not saying it’s not unsafe (because it’s really dangerous) and I’m not saying Allen isn’t a turd (because he is)…..but that actually did happen in my platoon, and to say that doesn’t happen in boot camp strikes me as incorrect. Maybe we were the extreme anomaly. I don’t know, I was never a DI and I’ve never been to PI since I left after graduation.
Yeah, I remember the the DS doing that to us at basic too. During a smoke session he had us chug our canteens and then sprint to the water buffalo to refill them and chug another one. Then he smoked us some more and then had us chug another canteen. A few people threw up, but you’re right. It does happen.
Not sure if they still do it anymore though. Regardless, this guy is a shitbag. Drinking to to the point of having dudes vomit seems counterintuitive to hydrating.
Heh….no kidding. The funny thing was, while we got the drink-till-you-puke treatment a few times, we also got lectured about drinking too much water and how that causes hyponatremia and can kill you. Then, during the night hump in the Crucible, we actually had a kid collapse and go into convulsions because….he’d overhydrated and his blood sodium was way low because he had drank way too much water. That wasn’t from any punishment, it was just a moron who thought that hydrating meant “drink a canteen every 20 minutes or so”
I believe it. I bet before the hump the DI told you guys to pound water the night before too. They pound that “drink water” mantra into your head so much. Some dudes, as you stated, took it way too far and ended up fucked.
I was at Marine boot in 2001. I remember having to drink canteens of water and a few guys puking.
3082!
2056, graduated July 20. I was a grad hold (fractured my foot on the final hump in the crucible) and was stuck in BMP for a couple of months. I worked at 3rd Bn S-4 while I was there. I might have known some of your DIs….haha
I don’t know, I remember us downing canteens until a couple people vomited. They weren’t specifically told to drink so much, but we were all pretty well over our limit about the hundredth time hearing the word ‘hydrate.’
I remember this one time at Advanced Terrorologist Shovel High Impact Training (AT SHIT). John “Faker6” Giduck was our DI and he made us walk from the parking lot to the lunch room… NON-STOP!
So you guys stop pissing and moaning.
Water? Cripes. Back in the day, we were so bad ass we VOLUNTARILY over consumed beer until we puked. Then, if we weren’t unconscious, we drank some more.
I wonder why none if the Marines he “helped make it into the Marines” never came back and called him out on his bullshit?
They did the water drinking punishment in “Jarhead”. Since most of Allen’s experience came from things he imagined he may have drawn many of his training techniques from movies.
They filmed some of Jarhead around Yuma and in the empty desert just across the state line in Imperial County, CA when I was stationed at MCAS Yuma. I remember they put up posters around the base for a casting call for extras. A lot of guys I knew went, and a few of them are in the movie, but I didn’t bother. I knew what Swofford was all about from reading his shitty book and from talking to a gunny in our squadron. Back when he was a young lance coolie, he’d been a scout sniper in a STA platoon during Desert Storm, just like Swofford. He didn’t know Swofford, but he did know what life in a STA platoon in Saudi was like, and he explained to me the many ways that the book, and later the movie, was a pile of horseshit.
As a former Marine grunt I felt the movie was pretty spot on about how ridiculous the Corps is. I think it’s one of the most authentic movies to depict the Corps next to Generation Kill which just nailed it out of the park.
I remember being told to chug a canteen frequently during BCT at Ft. McClellan in 1993 but that was because it was one of the hottest summers in Alabama history and the Drills were worried about heat casualties. I don’t think we could have overhydrated if we tried. I never heard of water being used as a punishment in this way.
Jeezus… getting training ideas from movies. WTF? He must have had a guardian angel looking out for his dumb ass training all of those kids over the years.
Why isn’t he in jail?
Early chow got caught eating ice cream. We all had to drink 2 canteens and run in place holding our footlockers over our heads till the majority puked…this was right after dinner chow. If you puked it had to be down the front of your bunkies skivvy shirt, not on the Senior DI`s deck. At least he got his research right for fantasy camp. PLT 3118 Parris Island 1990.
Bullshit flag thrown.
3rd Battalion represent!
The idea behind training is to TRAIN, not ABUSE. What good is it to abuse a recruit to the point of injury if the result is the possible loss of that recruit? That is not cost effective. Not to mention the fact that you would have the parents of that recruit suing the living crap out of you.
The training I went through as a Marine recruit was HARD, it was TOUGH. It was NOT ABUSIVE.
Marine bootcamp is like 90% mental abuse. The physical stuff is the easy part and not that difficult at all. There is very little training that goes on. It’s purpose is for intense indoctrination and to acclimatize enlisted for Marine Corps/Military culture and regulations.
Yep, it’s just a bunch of mind games. Always thought it was funny how, even after 13 weeks, we had dumbasses in our platoon that still didn’t understand that.
I’m glad they aren’t letting this shit-stain scamper out of the limelight. The shit he pulled was typical of wannabees.
It was all about him wanting to bully young men into thinking he was something he wasn’t.
When I was a hat I worked with recruiters and their poolees.
I would start out by being calm and casual. Of course poolees would fuck up and giggle and joke around like they did with their recruiter.
I would then tell them they were giving me no chioce and go in and get my smokey, and turn on my DI switch.
Things got real for them for about 20 minutes. Then I would put my Smokey away and talk to them about boot camp and what they had to do to prepare.
Allen has some very real problems coming up. IIRC the shit-bag had a Marine Corps Emblem on his VA card. Since he was Navy that means he showed as forged document to get benefits.
Something about this guy’s face doesn’t look quite right. He’s not quite an ape, but certainly not a normal human male. A missing link of some sort?