Don’t lecture me about guns
So, every liberal worth his/her salt is out there this weekend telling us how guns are out of control after that little retarded turd in Charleston horrendously murdered nine innocent Americans during their Bible-study group earlier. Marty O’Malley is “pissed”, to use his word, that too many law-abiding Americans own guns – his solution is to ban “assault weapons” even though turd-boy used a handgun. Hillary Clinton spoke this weekend about the issue, according to CNN;
“I lived in Arkansas and I represented upstate New York. I know that gun ownership is part of the fabric of a lot of law abiding communities,” Clinton said. “I also know that we can have common sense gun reforms that keep weapons out of the hands of criminals and the violently unstable while respecting responsible gun owners.”
The comment earned a sustained round of applause from the mayors assembled for the conference.
So, look, can we talk about this rationally without the emotional outbursts? Banning a rifle because it has a bayonet lug on the barrel won’t change gun violence in this country, but that’s what it boils down to – emotion. O’Malley took the easy route – appealing to the ignorant masses with the image of a scary-looking gun. Clinton talks about “common sense gun reforms” without telling us what reforms would be “common sense” above and beyond what is already law.
Charleston’s Glock-boy already broke laws when he had a gun in his possession. He was charged with a felony – that precluded him from having a gun in his hand. Period. I guess he didn’t care about gun laws as he set about to commit yet another crime. Murder is illegal, too, by the way.
You know what? If someone wants to explain to me which “common sense” controls they want to place on gun owners and if they want to explain to me exactly how those “common sense” controls will make us safer, I may just agree. But, when they make broad gestures intended to make us feel guilty about our ownership of legal firearms that we use legally every minute of every day, they’re just farting in the wind. Stop treating legal gun owners like we’re a bunch of children and talk to us like we’re adults and you may just get an adult response from us.
I have several guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition, but I’ve never committed a crime with those guns, some I’ve owned for more than four decades in several states. Stop treating me like a criminal and start talking to me like the law-abiding, responsible citizen that I am, or STFU.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
My guns have never jumped up and shot anyone either.
I better get my money back for them…
I’m with you Jonn, STFU.
I agree 100% that this stark raving idiot murdered those people as a result of his deranged ideas. However, what about the concern for the ten people shot this weekend – including children – in Philadelphia at a “block party” by members of their own race? Hate crime? Terrorism? You think those two bozos had legal weapons? Not to mention the comment about “other advanced countries” not having this problem. I guess Sweden, Norway, France, etc. aren’t civilized like we are. There is no one answer to this problem and to try and make it fit into one category is just plain ignorant. As for the military, I can imagine SHARP and MST will be replaced soon by the “You’re all racists” training we had in the 70’s. Then the next round of PTSD for VA comp will be anyone who feels they were discriminated against because of whatever. I have to agree with the Wicked Witch of the West, “What a world, what a world…”
I till have my ‘Race Relations’ certificate. I don’t need to go to the course again.
“Race Relations”?
Isn’t that the NASCAR fans getting along with the IndyCar Fans?
BLASPHEMY!!!!
Heretic! Burn him! Go get the chainsaw Bubba, we got a pile of wood to cut!
‘common sense’? OH, that’s just shrillary trying to get your goat — er, uh, I meant ‘vote’. Yeah, that’s it! Vote!
I guess a goat is the only living breathing creature that would want to get close enough to her.
Well clearly the assault weapons ban worked. I mean I dont think we had a single bayoneting aftet lugs were banned.
/satire
I’ve been waiting (not holding my breath, luckily) for any of the “something has to be done crowd” to tell me exactly what something will keep a gun out of a criminal’s hand. These windbags keep blowing smoke but I haven’t heard them say anything. The silence is deafening.
So all we can do is just throw our hands in the air in disgust and give up.
What the fuck are you trying to say here? If you mean give up on waiting for a hand wringer to come up with something, then yes. Absolutely give up because it is futile. Let me put it in big bird terms for you: there is no law that can be passed to keep guns out of a criminals hands. None. Criminals do not obey the law hence, they are criminals.
Now, if you have some magic fairy dust that can do the impossible, please share with the rest of the class. We’re listening. I’m serious, we all want to know this grand plan.
I know of at least one synagogue that has had a police car in the parking lot for every service at least since 2001. It also had a couple of very large, concrete planters placed in front of the large, glass panel that held the doors, until that vulnerability was removed.
My kids used to attend classes after school in this building. I was one of very few parents that actually walked with my kids into it. I discovered that there were times when there was only one adult in the building, with all of those children being dropped off. I decided to just hang around the entrance, at least until the other teachers arrived.
I wish their was some type of law or something to control criminal’s.
p.s The media needs to talk to the citizens in upstate Zoo York about turning their guns in so that the police can protect them from the two killers on the loose.
p.p.s No gun store will sell a firearm to the escaped killers so the background check will help all of us.
sarc
Yeah, how about the common sense gun law they passed in NY that, until it was hastily amended, had the cops in violation of the law in regards to school grounds and magazines.
Common sense, step right up!
They don’t want a rational discussion, Jonn.
They want a knee-jerk reaction facilitating control and obedience.
“They want a knee-jerk reaction facilitating control and obedience”
I may frame that comment and put it on the wall. Succinct and dead-on.
Ok let’s try have a rational discussion. I don’t believe arming ourselves and adopting an “us vs them” siege mentality is the answer. I refuse to live my life that way. If I was that afraid of the society I live in I’d move to a desert island or out in the middle of nowhere and build a 40ft high wall and a moat filled with piranhas and alligators around me. Makes as much sense as walking around outside with my Ruger locked and loaded just waiting for something to happen as far as I’m concerned. Is my logic flawed?
That’s not a discussion. You’re telling us how you feel. I walk around inside and outside my house with my Ruger locked and loaded – how does that affect you? Unless of course you wish me ill. I don’t know how many people I can kill on my own property unless you plan on busing in a couple of loads. like I said, what you wrote isn’t a discussion – you’re trying to gun-shame me.
Diarrhea has more form than what you just wrote, but here goes:
“I don’t believe arming ourselves and adopting an “us vs them” siege mentality is the answer.” — We are not discussing survivalism or prepping. We are discussing gun ownership. There is a big leap between owning guns for self-defense or sport or hunting, and the preparation for siege that is the hallmark of survivalists.
“If I was that afraid of the society I live in I’d move to a desert island or out in the middle of nowhere and build a 40ft high wall and a moat filled with piranhas and alligators around me.”
— There are dangerous people out there. If you have the misfortune to be attacked, you have one of two choices: fight, or succumb to your attacker. It’s your choice.
“Makes as much sense as walking around outside with my Ruger locked and loaded just waiting for something to happen as far as I’m concerned.” — Gun owners generally have considered when and where they want to carry their weapons. I probably leave mine at home when others would carry, and conversely, I carry when others wouldn’t bother. That doesn’t make me right and them wrong, or vice versa. It’s a CHOICE we make.
“Is my logic flawed?” — We’ll let you know, when and if you start to use logic in what you write.
“If I was that afraid of the society I live in I’d move to a desert island or out in the middle of nowhere and build a 40ft high wall and a moat filled with piranhas and alligators around me.”
I live and work in the middle of nowhere, often a stones throw from a particular 40ft wall. I’m not afraid of society. I’m very aware that there are some people along our southern border that are less than upstanding law abiding citizens. I’m not waiting for something to happen, or hoping for it. I am prepared, however.
“Makes as much sense as walking around outside with my Ruger locked and loaded just waiting for something to happen as far as I’m concerned.”
Do you have a fire extinguisher in your house? I’ll bet you do. What are you scared of?
Gun-grabbing booger-eating bedwetting do-gooders claim that we don’t need guns for self-defense because we have Police Departments. WELL THEN according to them there is NO REASON for anyone to own or possess a fire extinguisher because we have Fire Department Personnel on duty! Saying “Liberals are idiots” is like saying “Fire is hot, “Water is wet” and “SHIT STINKS”!
…saying… and “SHIT STINKS”!
Hey, Hey, Hey! There is no reason to bring Giduck into this.
You refuse to arm yourself. Good for you. Nobody is trying to compel you otherwise. We choose to arm ourselves. If you don’t like it, too fucking bad. As we have no right to impose our preference on you, you have no right to impose yours on us.
You do your thing, I’ll do mine, period.
Bingo.
The fact that some fool elects not to take advantage of his or her rights under the Constitution has no effect on my exercise of those same rights.
Nor should it.
I have tried so hard to see the bed wetter’s side but I’ll be damned if I can wrap my head around it. And just like this ding dong, Lonnie, whenever you ask them how exactly another law, that infringes on my rights (law abiding citizen), will keep a firearm out of the hands of criminals, you are answered with silence. I think they just like the sound of their own whiny voice.
“I lived in Arkansas and I represented upstate New York.”
As the US senator for NY, her constituency included upstate NY, but she represented the folks with money in NYC.
All you have to do is see where the location of the house that she and Bill bought was to see her true constituents.
I heard that the reason it took so long for the Clintons to move into Chappaqua is that they had to let the authorities know that a sex offender was moving into their neighborhood!!
A sex offender AND Bill Clinton!
Yeah, that line of hers jumped off the page and smacked me in the face. All this time I thought that US Senators (unlike state senators) were to represent their entire state, not designated portions of it. But I will defer to Wide Load on this. After all, she is brilliant, a former Secretary of State, a former First Lady of Arkansas and the USA, and most relevant of all, a former US Senator. She certainly knows better than I do about government.
Damn straight. The majority of the people in upstate New York who’d vote for gun control are the people who work in the city and commute – ie, New York city folk who wanted ‘the good life’ without being country.
Mind you, there are some real racist areas of upstate (from personal experience) which could stand being brought up to the 1970s in attitude, but the majority of actual upstaters are like anybody else with half a brain. Hilary represented them and their interests about as much as she represents ANYBODY’s interests other than her own: to wit, not at all.
“Common Sense” is a nice policy concept. Unfortunately, the idiots up in DC don’t have any common sense policies to stand on. Lead by example is unknown to them. Was it common sense to entrust the management and storage of our PII to third county nationals? Is it common sense to have a VA that does not confirm POW status with the DOD before granting benefits? Is it common sense to have the IRS send over 600 tax refund checks to the same address in Lithuania? Was it common sense to not regulate derivatives? Was it common sense to allow multiple parties to buy credit default swaps on underlying CDO’s they did not own. Was it common sense to pass the ACA bill so they could find out what’s in it? Was it common sense to do away with preexisting conditions clauses while telling everyone their insurance costs would go down? I could go on for days ….
Nothing they do up there has one iota of common sense in it. And in closing, Fuck You Lars.
Sorry for the typo… s/b “third country nationals”
I clicked on Yahoo News and the first two articles are how that animal donated to Republican Presidential candidates. What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
It plays into the meme that the GOP are really the Dixiecrats born again like a Phoenix. That whole BS of southern strategy and the KKK isn’t really democratic but a GOP construction,blah,blah,blah,the real racists are the right wing because look the Nazis were right wingers. All that usual identity political circus the left plays.
This has nothing to do with truth or common sense, this has everything to do with manipulation and control. They KNOW there are mentally unstable people out there that will use guns violently. They KNOW they are capable of spinning the resulting tragedy to their benefit. They KNOW about the deaths in the inner cities. They KNOW they can downplay those acts with the help of a compliant news media. They KNOW they can make perception a reality if they continue to mold it long enough. We are coming to the point where laws and even our rights under the Constitution will not be enough to protect us from the agenda we are being faced with. If the overwhelming public majority comes to believe the propaganda that is so carefully being fed to them, the majority will vote to legally cancel our rights to own guns. By the time they realize what they’ve done, it will be far too late to fix it — and the ones in power doing this KNOW that, too.
Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my legally purchased, legally owned, legally carried 1911. I want a common sense law to regulate politicians.
SFC D…AAAAAAAAAAnd a Big THANK YOU, for that remembrance. Old smoldering in his grave Ted, was given a free pass on killing Mary Jo Kopechne. (A woman he shouldn’t have been with, but alas, that was the Kennedys for you.) My guns have the same statistics as yours. Ted had NO common sense and more than Hillary, O’Malley and last but largest Obama.
We do have rules. If they are good swimmers and return to the scene of a crime within say…..48 hours, it is like they never left.
You are probably one of these nut jobs that thinks we should be responsible for the passengers in our vehicles.
What is next? We start registering Golf Clubs?
My 1911 is a old war dog. So I cant positively say the same about it.
No, but there is a better than even chance that anybody it killed, deserved what they got.
Alright, all you right wing gun nutz. The POPE says you can no longer call yourselves Christians.
Since he is the Vicar of Christ his word is infallible. Who am I to say he is wrong. Give up the guns or stop saying you are Christian.
Glad I could help.
http://news.yahoo.com/pope-says-weapons-manufacturers-cant-call-themselves-christian-184139430.html
When he tells the Swiss Guard to pack up and go home, then I’ll listen.
Cute, wonder if he’s disarmed his guards yet.
Dead Men have no voice. Hmmmm….but we get to post online in the hereafter. Speak oh mysterious one.
I’ve been posting here for a few years. Same name even.
Keep reminding me why I haven’t been to Mass in years.
His “Holiness” has no authority to deny Christianity to any creature. To remove membership as a Catholic is called Excommunication.
Come now, we all know Catholics are the only REAL Christians.
I’m Catholic, and I don’t see it that way. Neither does my priest. Then again, my priest owns guns, hunts deer, and drives a Bronco he fixed up himself.
I know. Most Catholics do not believe what come out of the Vatican. You probably dont believe a cracker actually turns into the flesh of a dead Jew either. Its more symbolic, right? Probably used a condom or two at some point. Probably know some that take birth control pills. You dont really believe the Pope is infallible either.
I know, if I take all the things most Catholics dont agree with out of their religion they are more like…… well… Presbyterian.
I don’t know, its all so confusing to me.
Without going down the metaphysics rabbit trail, suffice it to say that we generally don’t believe that you have to be Catholic to be Christian (that tends to be more of a Baptist thing in my experience), and the Papal Infallibility thing is…complex, and–going by Catholic doctrine–I don’t think it applies to this statement.
Just poking the bear brother.
Much respect.
It’s all good!
The notion of papal infallibility is little understood by Catholics and non-Catholics alike. It has very limited application and is reserved solely for doctrinal issues. In my view, the current pope is wrong about a great many things. I was a Benedict fan and, like most every Catholic, a John Paul II fan. Pope Frank I’m finding difficult to like.
By definition there are only two entities who define your identity as a Christian… you and God. Whether you are a “good Christian” or not, no one else can determine whether you are or are not a Christian, regardless of their purported rank, job, or position. I realize he purports to speak for God, but until I see some evidence of that, it seems the determination rests with the individual, not him.
Less politely – he also spoke out on major nations ‘ignoring’ the same Holocaust the Catholic Church facilitated at its highest levels, and even issued Vatican passports for escaping SS officers in the immediate post-war period. (Believe the cardinal running the Vatican Foreign office at that time became Pope, nicht war?)
The Church may be Man’s oldest continuously operating institution, but that doesn’t mean it – or its pontiff – are always right.
Apropos of nothing else, I am reminded of the lines in the novel “Braveheart” (a scene which didn’t make it to film) as William Wallace is rebuffed by the Pope in his appeal for help against the English. As he is escorted back to Paris by his French guide, Wallace says something about how he – and King Philip IV – knew the Pope would not help him.
The guide shrugs and says, “The Pope is elected by cardinals, who are appointed by Kings, who fight with each other …”
Or something like that – I’m too lazy to go get the book and enter a direct quote.
That’s a difficult subject, too, as the nazis didn’t particularly like Catholics, lots of priests, monks, and nuns died at the hands of the SS, and the Vatican was surrounded by nazis and nazi-wannabes. You could say the Pope was in a precarious position. Hitler may have been raised Catholic, but he hated the Church and the faith, even if he found it useful for some of his plans. Catholic parishes generally weren’t lining up to embrace the virulently-antisemitic “Positive Christianity” doctrine that the Nazi Party was pushing, and some parishes were running “underground railroads” to smuggle Jews into Switzerland (speaking of shitbags: the Swiss–at least they harbors refugees, I guess). Don’t forget that the Church was also feeding intelligence to the Allies.
Could the Pope have done more? Yeah. Would it have been anything more than a futile gesture? Hard to say.
Also remember this one guy, who was a priest in Poland, named Karol Jozef Wojtyla, who was an active member of the Polish resistance. He’s more widely known as John Paul II.
Hitler and his minions certainly did not treat many priests and nuns well, and many died – some heroically – in the camps. But the Catholic Church famously took an ostrich stance and tried to pretend the whole issue would go away, and after the war the foreign was an active participant in the Odessa network’s work.
Yes, there was a noted anti-Nazi who became Pope… but seems to me I read it was Paul VI who was the cardinal in charge of the foreign office. He became pope first.
Don’t get me wrong, I am a huge admirer of the Church in the abstract – but like any human institution, it is made up of humans with feet of clay.
Dave,get back on the subject of the Anti-gun rants. They use scare tactics and feelings to push their agenda. I own SARs(semi automatic rifles. An assult rifle has a selector switch that you to choose full auto or semi fire. To legally own a assult rifle or machinegun. You must aply and pay a processing fee(nonrefundable) and if approved the gummit can come in your home and check your paperwork against your weapon serial number.Plus the price of a assult or machine gun you could buy a good house or luxgy car. Rant off, Disgust still flowing for ingorant followers. Joe
Joe, you don’t get it! Your rifle is black and has a large magazine fires as fast as you can pull the trigger and it looks evil and scary.
Therefore, to the do-gooder liberals, it IS an assault weapon. What the law defines it as is irrelevant.
Dave…Thank you for the link. Goes to prove a different take on an old adage. “Anything the Pope knows about sex…he shouldn’t.” Same with guns.
You got me, you crazy religious wacko, you!
/s
Ummm, I think His Holiness might want to back his wagon up a bit. Apparently, there are some monks in the gun pile somewhere:
http://www.faversham.org/history/explosives/About_Gunpowder.aspx
Good read, thanx for the link.
I’m not Catholic. I don’t listen to the Pope.
Read up on the doctrine of Papal Infallibility sometime:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility
Cliff’s Notes version: It doesn’t apply here.
The Roman Pontiff or Bishop of Rome has not only what is called primacy of honor but supreme power of jurisdiction over the universal church.
He has jurisdiction over discipline and government throughout the whole world. This authority is Episcopal. It extends over every church, every pastor, over all faithful, and cannot be interpreted by human authority. The moment he is selected he has supreme jurisdiction by divine right.
His authority is fixed by Christ and cannot be changed by man. Those who do not accept his authority cannot follow the will of Christ. I am fairly sure Cannon 215 though, oh, about 230 or so say exactly that in Latin. If you do not accept his authority and inerrant nature you are simply lost spiritually.
I figured a long time ago I was going to miss getting in to heaven. So, I figured why miss it by just a little bit.
I did NOT mean to report that comment! Sorry!
What I wanted to say is that the Pontiff also mentioned that the great nations of the world failed to stop the Holocaust by means of weapons of war (Unless you call bombing train tracks something else).
And, I seem to recall that the United States poured out its blood and treasure to stop the Nazis in Europe and the Japanese in the Pacific.
Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.
Well, it did take awhile — we got there as quick as we could. There were a bunch of damn Krauts in the way!
Don’t forget cross that “little ditch” called the English channel and land on a hostile coast
The Peronista Pope makes me miss the Panzer Pope and the Polish Pope.
Ah well, you can take the Pope out of Argentina, but you apparently can’t take Argentina our of the Pope.
(Not a Catholic FWIW).
I am, albeit nonpracticing at present. And I agree completely.
Thunder Thighs represented upstate NY?
Since fucking when? And typical flatlander to call Westchester County “upstate”.
She was a US Senator, SEA. I think that by definition that means she represented the entire state.
Theoretically, anyway. In actual practice . . . maybe not so much.
Hillary only represents whatever puts cash in her account.
Fuck Hildebeast!*
* Not literally
With two escaped killers running around NY I’ll bet a lot of citizens wish they had the same type of weapons and magazines that the police hunting them have
Amen, Jonn. Not a single weapon in my collection has ever jumped out and killed anyone, either. Although two of them *HAVE* had the opportunity to run off douche bags that wanted to endanger my life and property.
No one ever reports on how many times just having a gun, not even brandishing it, has stopped a crime.
I don’t know about that. I had my 1911 on the table, the other day, for a cleaning, and it was just sitting there. All of a sudden; it started to vibrate and move a little. I thought that maybe it was possessed and was gonna jump up looking for a target. I thought I might have time to get my phone out and take a short video of it heading out the house and down the street. Alas, I had just bumped the table and it went back to defcon 4 on the table.
The Second is only one of many which I don’t want to be lectured about by anyone who wants to limit any of our enumerated, inalienable rights. The Bill of Rights is an all or nothing document.
I collect guns. I like guns. All kinds of guns. Shooting is fun. Hunting is fun. And then, of course, my home and family are safer since my wife and I are able, if necessary, to immediately meet any threat to same with overwhelming firepower rather than have to wait an indeterminate length of time for law enforcement to respond. I also cannot be coerced by force (by ANYBODY), because I can respond with force of my own if they try. Anybody who wants my cooperation MUST use reason to convince me (an armed society is a polite society, after all). I collect all kinds of guns. Rifles, pistols, shotguns, carbines, SASS/Old West period guns, WWI/WWII military weapons, modern guns, even some of those Scary Black Rifles. Have any of my weapons been used to terminate a human life? Yes–60+ years ago, during government-sanctioned hostilities against belligerent foreign powers in time of war, two of them were. One of my Garands was carried and used in WWII and possibly Korea. My Enfield was used by a British sniper in Korea who accounted for his share of Norks and Red Chinese (I believe I’ve told the story of how it made its way into my safe). Do I think it’s “cool” that they’ve been used for killing? No. Does that history have ANY effect on the weapons themselves? No. They were tools used to do a necessary (if unpleasant) job. Neither of those weapons have been used for violent purposes since 1954. You could compare them to any other surplus equipment, such as the fleets of B-17s, PBYs, PB4Ys, A-26s, F7Fs, and TBMs that were used to rain high-explosive-incendiary death and destruction on lots and lots of people during the war, but afterwards were modified to carry retardant and used for wildland firefighting over the next five decades. None of my weapons will EVER be used for violence unless somebody tries to get violent with me first. To those who claim that my guns could be stolen, I simply say, “Try it. Let me know how that works out for ya.”… Read more »
Love the common sense! Not much of it (common sense) left in the world today. Can I use some of this for responses to idiots?
“Stop treating legal gun owners like we’re a bunch of children and talk to us like we’re adults and you may just get an adult response from us.” Thank you Jonn. Until then they get a big GFY from me.
As a reminder for our non history buff in the Oval Office, the one who took the first press conference on Charleston to stump for his “gun control” agenda and said in effect, “This doesn’t happen in other developed countries…” Again, Clueless In Chief let me offer you a few reminders, just a few.
1) Norway (2011… 77 killed, 309 wounded)
2) France ( 2015…Charlie Hebdo – 16 killed, 22 wounded)
3) Australia (2014…Cafe Hostage Crisis (3 dead, including gunman)
4) China (2014…Knife attack 33 killed, 140 injured)
5) Great Britain (2010…12 killed, 11 injured)
For the benefit of those who are curious, the following is what they mean by “common sense” gun restrictions:
1. A total ban on all privately owned firearms.
2. A series of restrictions on owning, purchasing, transporting and use that amount to a de facto ban.
And my answer is always the same to them: “Go ye forth and procreate with thine self and then expire.”
I saw this line somewhere recently: “Ever wonder why there are no mass shootings at NRA events?” Might add several other venues where legal gun owners congregate as well.
To be sure there have been accidents and incidents, but I still feel safer at a properly operated gun range than I do on some freeways nowadays.
So you’re saying those church ladies in Charleston, some of whom were well into their 80’s, should have taken some firearms courses, packed heat and been ready to use it? It must be nice on your planet.
So is anybody tracking what Carl the Turd Rove was spewing out of his mouth this morning ????
When asked what it would take to completely stop gun violence, Rove said it would take repealing the second amendment and totally getting rid of all guns. The left is portraying it as a major defection in the ranks, but it seems more likely he was saying “as long as guns exist in society someone’s gonna misuse ’em.” I got the sense that he was saying we would never eliminate violence with something as long as it exists (next up: banning kitchen knives!) due to human nature, but quite a few folks on both sides of the political spectrum are excited.
Karl Said:
“Now maybe there’s some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. I mean basically the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen.”
Sounds to me like Karl’s on the side of the second amendment, YMMV!
The only thing that will be harder than repealing the Second Amendment, will be reinstating it.
I read that the killer in Charleston originally wanted to target a school, but chose the church instead because it was an easier target. This leads me to wonder if the entire event would have passed us by, if there had been a single, friendly armed guard by the door, or a police car parked outside.
We need to stop posting signs that say in essence, “Target Rich environment here.”
It wouldn’t even take an armed guard, valerie. All it would take is a couple of parishoners being armed and instead of signs saying “gun free zone”, put up a sign saying “some of our people are armed”, or “guns welcome”.
What the emotion driven leftists will never get is that a gun is an inanimate object. A tool that can be used to save a life or take a life. With malice or defense, depending on the intentions of the user. Many leftists attempt to infuse a gun with intent, when it’s the person using it. They never see the person, just the gun. Just like the self identified liberal in the fb comments at the top pointed out; they’re waiting for the next instance to happen, when more people are killed in Chicago on a slow weekend than died in this attack. Does it lessen the impact of this attack? Nope, but it doesn’t increase it, either, like the hyperbole being spewed forth by the anti-gun types is trying to make it appear to be an “epidemic” or “crisis”.