Cuomo’s cluster f*** in Dannemora

| June 15, 2015

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One corrections officer at Dannemora, NY’s Clinton Correctional Center is characterizing the manhunt there as a “cluster f***” largely due to legacy governor Cuomo’s interference in a bid to suck out all of the credit for the eventual capture of the two escaped murderers, Richard Matt and David Sweat, according to the New York Post;

The sources, meanwhile, said the State Police, the lead agency, had repeatedly refused to share information on the design and scope of the manhunt with the local police, the Clinton County Sheriff’s Department, the state Correctional Services Department and the state Environmental Conservation Department, whose police officers are part of the search, as well as the US Marshals Service.

Just a few days ago, a potentially dangerous confrontation was narrowly avoided when a group of heavily armed State Police troopers combing the woods near Willsboro unexpectedly came upon several members of a Correctional Services emergency response team emerging from a patch of forest, startling them.

According to the article, Legacy Governor Cuomo has transportation standing by to whisk him away to the facility in the event that the cluster f*** ever captures the duo, you know, accidentally, or something.

I guess that no one has ever noticed that when the politics of something takes precedent over the actual overarching goal, that stuff never functions the way it’s supposed to work.

Whadya mean that’s not Cuomo in the picture above?

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M Savoy

“Legacy Governor Cuomo” Ha ha ha! I love it.

GDContractor

I had to search the interwebs for the contextual definition of “legacy”…I’m no MESNA guy.

B Woodman

“state Environmental Conservation Department, whose police officers are part of the search”

WHy? Because the two escapees MIGHT step into and “damage” some eco-sensitive wetlands?
Next thing you know, the faux “news” will announce that state plumbers will be a part of the search, because the state will have thrown in everything (everyone) and the kitchen sink. And ya’know, we CAN’T have clogged up kitchen sinks during a manhunt.

GDContractor

Wake me up when they send in the Railroad Retirement Board SWAT Team. Those guys are supposed to be badass.

A Proud Infidel®™

All they need now is to add DHS to the mix and it could REALLY turn into a royal clusterfuck!

Laurie

I would think they are part of the search because the prison is actually in a State Forest, and very near the massive Adirondack Park (6.1 Million Acres, an area about the size of Vermont) and parts of it are considered part of the search area. The DEC would better know the trails, cabins, and possible resources than regular police would there. Also they have more contact with hikers and other people using the park to collect any information they might have.

Bobo

I believe that the police officers with the State Environmental Conservation Department are what most people call game wardens. Those would be the guys who have the power to arrest and can walk onto your property and look around without a warrant. In Massachusetts I’ve even seen them handing out traffic citations on public roads.

John Meili

FYSA State Environmental Conservation Department are state troopers.

ThatGuy

Game Wardens/Environment Protection Officers are still sworn law enforcement agents who just happen to have better knowledge of the area than the local State Police troop or Metro PD.

jonp

Used to be Game and Fish knew how to track, trap and wander the woods without getting lost. The new breed knows how to use a gps and keep you off of the Canadian Lynx Habitat. If the gps go’s out they can’t read a compass to save their life. I watched this in action across the lake while walking through 10 miles of woods on an afternoon stroll to fish for Brook Trout. Came upon one of the old guys trying to teach navigation to a prospective Game Cop. While the kid tried to work out his location with a map and compass I talked to the Game Cop. He pretty much shook his head at the kid. Gee, a topo map and a compass surrounded by obvious landmarks and knowing where you started with a compass bearing and he was still stumped???

I laughed and walked off, without a compass to hit that beaver pond.

Combat Historian

A barely-averted blue-on-blue firefight; that would have been the shit cherry on top of an ever-escalating bureaucratic debacle…way to go, Legacy Guv !!!

AW1Ed

“I said, don’t give the prick the satisfaction. Sir.”

GDContractor

Well at least we can take some comfort in knowing the taxpaying citizens of New York State are still allowed to defend themselves against these two escaped convicts with modern weapons and ammunition…um, right Governor?

Silentium Est Aureum

Just when you thought CA had a lock on the crown for goatfuck manhunts (see Christopher Dorner), Cuomo and the Keystone Kops are giving them a run for their money.

At least the NY LEO’s haven’t shot any innocent newspaper delivery folks.

Yet.

Old Trooper

“At least the NY LEO’s haven’t shot any innocent newspaper delivery folks.

Yet.”

Give them time. They just about took each other out, once, so I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before they screw the pooch and have a blue on civilian incident. Or, take out a bear shitting in the woods……….it could happen.

GDContractor

I think this is a time like no other to take the high capacity magazines away from LEOs. It will reduce the casualties when they open up on each other. If we save one life, isn’t it worth it?

GDContractor

Gosh I hope there are no S&W M&Ps up there! Could get ugly!

ChipNASA

***COMEDY INTERMISSION***

A bear and a rabbit are taking a shit in the woods.

The bear turns to the rabbit and says, “Do you have a problem with shit sticking to your fur?”

The rabbit turns to the bear and says “No, why do you ask?”

So the bear wiped his ass with the rabbit.

😀 😀 😀

/you can now return to your regularly scheduled TAH.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

EDDIE!!! EDDIE!!!

ChipNASA

NAILED it.
/Eddie when he was CLASSIC Eddie.

One of my other favorite moments in Delirious….

“Hey, let me borrow your camera.”

A Proud Infidel®™

Is sounds like the Mayor and the Dogcatcher are the only ones NOT looking for them. I’d be surprised if they weren’t well inside Canada or down in Mexico by now!

Skippy

I am so glad I live here in Arizona. How in the hell can people live in such crowded places

LIRight

Too bad it’s not mid-November – those Troopers walking through the woods would put on a helluva deer drive!

John Meili

Those criminals will get more than they bargained for if they try and invade some mountain man’s castle. They may find them on a BBQ. Rough crowd up in Northern Tier of NY. Not fit for city slickers.

SFC D

OPSEC Skip… hush up or they’ll find us!

2/17 Air Cav

Climb to Glory

Cuomo is an incompetent piece of shit and a world class narcissist. Kinda like the Occupier in Chief.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Classic stupidity…of course it all starts with average looking hag working at the prison getting lots of attention from an inmate…telling her she’s pretty and smart and interesting while her husband of a million years doesn’t look at her much anymore…

She plans on getting the killers out to kill her husband and live a life of joy with a murderer, until she figures out that after they kill the husband there’s not much reason to keep her stupid old ass alive so they kill her and her kid as well and use the family resources to get away clean…then she turns herself in and thankfully saves her husband and kid from a grisly death as well as herself most likely…

Cuomo being a twat wants to pretend he’s johnny on the spot and capitalize on that…nothing like a hack to ejaculate on the moment just for a photo op.

A Proud Infidel®™

Has Cuomo ever been genuine about anything he’s ever done in this life? I see him as little more than an arrogant windbag in the likes of Kerry, Nanny Lugosi, the Hildebeast,…

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Even a broken clock is right a couple times a day my friend! 🙂

Richard

These guys don’t seem like that Eric Fein guy in Pennsylvania last year – experienced in the wilderness and all of that. On the other hand, marching a platoon of guys around dress right dress isn’t going to do much good in a 6 million acre backcountry with lots of tree cover. Do the cops have people who know how to track? Do they have any idea where these guys might be? Are they using cordon and search?

If they are up near Plattsburg, seems to me that the 10th SF Group is up there. Maybe they would like to go on a camp out. Maybe they have a Gray Eagle or Predator company who could fly the area looking for fires.

Of course, all of this assumes that they are still in New York. If they had a brain (and the news reports suggest that they are reasonably clever), they would have borrowed a car and headed for Pennsylvania or parts west and just disappeared into America.

Reminds me of an old truism in IT. Do you want the credit or do you want to get the job done? In most cases, you cannot have both. This applies in a lot more places than just northern New York.

Big Steve

The 10th SF Gp. was at Ft Devens Mass. for years, but relocated to Ft. Carson Colo. in the mid 90’s. I have no idea if they’re still at Carson.

Richard

Okay, I screwed that up. Fort Drum is near Lake Ontario about 110 miles WSW from the prison – on the other side of the Adirondacks.

I was thinking of the 10th Mountain.

There is a drone unit at Fort Drum, 10th Aviation Regiment. I wonder if the FAA will let them fly outside the R5201 restricted airspace.

I was at Ft Devens in 1970, the 10th SF group was there at that time. Apparently they moved to Ft. Carson in 1994 and 1995.

Scott

Sadly, Posse Commitatus prohibits the use of the Army (Federal, Title X) from enforcing the law. Can’t use them.

Hondo

It doesn’t prevent the Governor from using any National Guard assets in such a role, however – so long as they’re operating under state vice Federal orders.

Perhaps someone should suggest that to the legacy governor. As I recall some of the upstate infantry units in the 42nd Inf Div used to be rather competent.

PFM

Hancock Field in Syracuse flies MQ-9s for the NY Air National Guard. Wonder if they can be used by the governor – assuming title 32. Shouldn’t be too hard for Latham to call SAD for 42D or 27th units.

Old 1SG, US Army (Retired)

They really need to contact Jay Santos with the Citizens Auxiliary Police (CAP). The CAP (not to be confused with the Civil Air Patrol) has been associated with the New York State Simulated Police and other similar organizations (see below). From what I understand they all do a bang up job!

Here’s an excerpt from an article about the Citizens Auxiliary Police:

The Citizens Auxiliary Police was founded in 1996 by a Major Elvis Newton in Torrance, California. Newton, himself a shadowy figure with some past military association, is said to have handed down his idea for an aggressive civilian police auxiliary to Jay Santos, a neighbor, while sitting in a darkened living room, chain smoking Pall Malls.

Organized loosely around the rank and leadership structure of The Federation of Planets (a fictitious entity from televisions Star Trek series), the CAP says its mission is to “take a peek over the shoulder of the police.” They view themselves as being “on the front lines of law enforcement” though they take their only real authority from the legal concept of “citizens’ arrest.” They’re “official” uniform is a pith or safari helmet, a blue armband, Bermuda shorts and ox-blood wing-tips with knee socks.

Among their various ranks are Sub Commander, Brigadier Admiral (Jay’s rank which seems to be second in command for the entire CAP) and the leader’s rank of Major, held by Elvis Newton who hasn’t been seen in public for many years.

The CAP apparently has sister organizations throughout the United States. These include the Gator Brigade (Florida), the Beaver Battalion (Oregon), the West Texas Range Riders (Texas), and the New York State Simulated Police (New York).

Support your local Citizens Auxiliary Police force — help them take a “peek over the shoulders” of the authorities!!!

charles w

Beaver Battalion. Sounds like fun.

B Woodman

Pffffttt. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! (‘scuse me while I catch my breath).
Poorest job of hack sci-fi writing I’ve read in quite awhile. Thanks for the laughter.

Scott

A Phil Hendrie fan, I see?

Old 1SG, US Army (Retired)

Absolutely! You gotta love Phil’s radio show and all of his “guests” — he’s got some real posers on his show.

I’ve dropped comments on TAH about Jay Santos and the CAP a couple of times just waiting for someone to recognize that it was about Phil.

All his guests are great, but some of my favorites are Lloyd Bonifide, Jay Santos, Pastor Rennick, Steve Bosell, just to name a few.

Ex-PH2

So now that the media have made sure that the convicts know where the cops are looking, what they’re wearing, how many dogs, guns, etc., they’re carrying, the convicts can move off in a different direction.

Got it. In the theater of absurd stupidity, this ranks pretty high. It’s just a shame that the picture up there at the top of the column isn’t cuomo. He’s a blondie boy.

Wake me when the Wisconsin state troopers catch the bad guys, okay?

Smitty

Yall all juat seem so judgemental. These upstanding gentlemen are not escaped convicts, they are trans-free people. Why can we not embrace their new life style choices?

charles w

Here is the escape caught on CCTV
https://youtu.be/kSCKyP2mmHo

PtolemyinAfghanistan

Maj. Malcolm A. Powers: Been in a long time, Gunnery Sergeant Highway.

Gunny Highway: I’ve felt some heat, sir.

Sgt. Maj.: Korea. Dominican. Three tours in ‘Nam. Hell, this old ass in the grass bulldog’s carrying around so much shrapnel he can’t pass through an airport metal detector.

Maj. Malcolm A. Powers: I haven’t as yet had the privelige of combat. I’ve recently come over from supply and logistics.

Sgt. Maj.: An unappreciated field of endevour, sir.

Maj. Malcolm A. Powers: Quite. My record of achievement thus far as been exemplary. I fully intend for that to continue.

Mike C, 4/27`

Excellent ! !

SGTFON

Try living in this damn state with an azzhat like him for a govener…

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