Bed wetters oppose memorial to fallen soldiers
Marine_7002 sends a link to the Detroit Free Press which reports on the discussion between handwringers and bedwetters in Michigan over a memorial that includes a *gasp* “machinegun”;
Council President Jerry Aubry says he’s not opposed to the fallen soldier monument itself, but rather the prominence of the proposed location.
“I don’t think it needs to be a center point of our Central Park,” Aubry said. “The boots, the machine gun, the helmet; I understand it should be there somewhere, but I don’t think it should be right in the middle of the park.”
“Being a veteran I want to see a monument there, yes,” said Councilman Tom Nader. “I just don’t think this is the proper one.”
For decades, the upturned rifle has been used to mark where soldiers have fallen on the battlefield so they can be located by graves registration folks. The current use with boots, helmet and dog tags is common at impromptu memorial ceremonies on the battlefield.
That is not an M16 or even a machine gun, by the way. It is an M4 – it is a gas-operated, magazine-fed, selective fire, shoulder-fired rifle with a telescoping stock and 14.5 inch long barrel.
Category: Dumbass Bullshit
Hmm…it’s an interesting sentiment, since they’re trying to avoid glorifying the violent nature of war, but I think that sort of dodges the entire point.
War IS violent. It’s violent, it’s terrifying, and it’s a horrible thing, and we NEED a reminder of that horror so that we understand how important peace is. The standard memorial featuring a rifle, helmet, and boots is a sobering reminder that a soldier DIED serving this country, and a reminder of why we should always strive for peace.
After all, war wouldn’t be something we would want to avoid if it were all gumdrops and rainbows.
Time to cut the cables at 8-Mile Road and let that hunk of shit formerly known as Detroit go floating off into Lake Erie.
What do you have against Lake Erie?
Other than being able to set it on fire?
Dude, that was the Cuyahoga River, not Lake Erie. And I’m reasonably sure that last happened more than 45 years ago (it apparently caught fire a number of times before that – some sources say 13 total times).
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/my-ohio/june-22-1969-cuyahoga-river-fire-brought-embarrassment-to-cleveland-and-environmental-change
Actually, this is in Milford, a fairly distant suburb of Detroit. But the situation proves the general blu-ish tinge to the state’s politics.
Only on that quadrant of the state. The rest is pretty red.
Sad for the people of Milford that the only council member that has any balls is Jennifer Frankford.
The rest is very red.
Then it would end up wedged against the Niagara Falls and join Buffalo. A match made in heaven. At least combining the 2 football teams would yield close to one real team
You are off the mark, Sir. It could be argued most effectively that the cables should be cut at M 696 (12 mile). Just like in wood, the rot has spread. The sad part is this council is head and shoulders above the previous few. I’ve lived here for about ten years now (since I retired), and have been consistently enthralled and appalled by Detroit city government. There is a reason most people here choose to keep themselves and their money in the suburbs, and gentrification has not been anywhere near as successful as it has elsewhere. And to think Detroit was once considered the Paris of the Midwest.
That thing in the memorial is no more a “gun” than the thing in the Lincoln Memorial is a “former president” and the Venus De Milo is a “double amputee woman”. There is reality and the depiction of reality. If you have a problem telling the difference, you probably need to get your meds adjusted.
And up the voltages in your shock therapy.
This article forgot to mention the Ford Foundation it’s right up their with their Anti Gun agenda. And where ??? Is the machine Gun I don’t see one in the picture????
I have been staring at that picture for ten minutes, havent found the machine gun yet. If I find it I will let you know, but I have a funny feeling it will be an exercise in futility.
(I accidentally hit the report button, totally didnt mean to.)
Rerun0369. I’ve already Hit the RED Button on myself a few times on accident on some of my comment. No Big Deal. I wish there was a way to report or hit a Red Button on Dumb ass political Retards. 🙂
Can you imagine the fun if that red button on the political retards was attached to a dunk tank? Or an ejection seat?
Heh.
Haa! ! ! nice just thinking about it makes me Smile
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Your friendly neighborhood liberal politicians at work. And Councilman Tom Nader is a fucking leaf eating piece of shit.
If Nader is actually a Veteran, then he needs to educate his fellow council members on proper identification of a weapon. It is not a “machine gun” and a Veteran would know that.
It isn’t hard to understand. They are complaining about the proposed Memorial because it hits too close to home. It reminds them of real sacrifice and it reminds them of their inadequacy, and those are two things they don’t want to be reminded of. Reality is a hard thing for some folks.
Not all of those council members are missing the point…
A statue of a weapon is going to make anyone kill anyone who wasn’t already planning to commit crimes…nobody sees an image like this and suddenly becomes a criminal. Some of these comments are so stupid as to make me question what passes for an educated response these days.
Deja vu all over again. Back in 2007 the city of Littleton, CO (where I’m from) had a bunch of panty-twisted hippies wringing their hands about a memorial to fallen SEAL Danny Deitz, who was from here.
Their supposed “concern” was that the statue depicted Dietz in his OEF uniform, complete with his M4. The shrieking pearl-clutchers were horrified that such a display would be near schools and parks and a mere 3 miles or so from Columbine High school, site of the 1999 school shooting.
The city fathers of Littleton patted them on their graying little heads and sent them on their way and the statue was put up, as it should have been.
Here’s a link to the article for some fun reading.
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_5595985
That’s where they made the mistake. They should have told them it’s a statue to honor no-pack or any of the dead gangsta’ (c)rappers (imo the best kind!) and then it would have been a welcome addition to the community.
I wonder if this jackass knowa that just about everyone in hat park is probably armed. It is Detroit.
“Thomas Nader, a technician at the General Motors Proving Ground, served on the village council from 1995-2009, serving the last four years as council president. He was unseated in 2009 by Rusas-George. ‘Some community leaders asked me to run again,’ said Nader, declining to reveal who those leaders were.”
Source: Hometownlife.com August 6, 2014
Yeah, I bet those anonymous community leaders were just aching for him to run again. And that explains why he received less than 19% of the vote–a whopping 700 or so. Oh, and Thomas Dale Nader’s brief bio says nothing about military service. Makes a person wonder.
One of the factors in considering to close a military installation is the surrounding community and its attitude toward the personnel of the installation. Michigan has no active duty military installation. The nearest they have is Selfridge ANG base. In my youth, when the state was more receptive to the military, there were several Air Force bases, and at least one Army base.
I would like to see the FAV there, build the monument in styrofoam, and pull it on a Radio Flyer wagon, through the park during high occupancy times, or put graphics on a van and park it at the gate. Anything but cave in to these panty wearing dopes. Machine gun, my ass.
You seem to have forgotten about Detroit Arsenal. Soldiers were a very small percentage of the workforce there, but it is home of TACOM. Back in the day, SANG housed units of all branches, including Coast Guard, and TACOM had a satellite unit there.
A search of Michigan war monuments (images) reveals a Huey, canon, sabres, bayonets, and many rifles. So, what’s their beef? Damned idjits.
The sentence that bothered me the most was the quote …”it could be off to the side…”. In one partial sentence, that says it all.
So, my response? I posted the links to every Gold Star and Veterans group I could and messaged a couple Gold Star families in Michigan. This is about to get highly entertaining.
On a related note, about a year ago, a member of my local school council objected to the idea of placing the five branch of service flags in the atriums of our high schools. Because it might encourage kids to join the military. Because “we want kids to aim higher” in life. She now has stock in burn cream to handle the blistering her ears received. And each high school has all five flags hanging proudly.
Good stuff, Denise.
What I find interesting are the sentiments that “they can see having the monument, just not there” – it’s at the walkway into the Vietnam War memorial.
Maybe they should make the memorials tie together better… and actually use an M16 instead of an M4.
Born and breed Michigan. I live 30 minutes from Milford.
I grew up in a small town where the Iron Brigade (Civil War era) was formed and marched south. The center of town to this day, still has the cannons and such commemorating the Brigade.
These folks have lost thier minds.
Jerry Aubry, what a pus-nutted thumbsucking booger-eating glittery gargoyle gonad-sniffing bedwetting Jane Fonda-lusting Smurf butt-licking unicorn-kisser! Who’s he trying to appease, his local chapter of the “Hanoi Jane Fan Club”? His locale is near Detroitistan, so I say…
Fa’qheem!
Bed-wetters strike again. Sigh…
I really do believe that a lot of these libtards are seriously, diagnosably mentally ill. I really do believe that.
What these libs fail to realize is that overprotecting children can be just as bad as underprotecting them. Children need to grow and develop; this means teaching them to manage risk as opposed to avoiding it at all costs. Life is risky. Kids need to realize this.
As far as I’m concerned, we should start treating the overprotective helicopter parents with the same contempt we give child molesters. No, I’m not kidding. When one overprotects a child, one produces damaged adults incapable of functioning in society. That is the same sort of damage child molesters inflict.