Wallace Grey Rather; phony SEAL with 7 Purple Hearts
Someone sent us their research on this fellow, Wallace Grey Rather, who appears to have had an enviable career in the Navy. He did actually serve as a corpsman three times in Vietnam with the 1st Marine Division and with the Riverine fellows, it appears that he earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star for his efforts, but apparently, that wasn’t good enough. His FOIA returns from his DD214 the award of a Special Warfare Badge (SEAL Trident), but Don Shipley reports that he isn’t in the database of folks who completed that course of study. So we looked at his records more thoroughly.
He has these two citations for Bronze Star Medals for actions in 1969 – according to his list of assignments, he was stationed in Vietnam with Coastal Riverine units 11 & 13 from February 1969 through February 1970. The two citations seem to be for the same action – neither of which has anything to do with Riverine operations, though. He has included in his file a Navy Commendation Medal which appears to be legitimate.
I don’t know how the Navy does Navy Commendation Medal, but the one above reads like an end-of-tour award and wouldn’t merit a “Combat Distinguishing Device” in the Army, but what do I know?
Now on to his awards; There are two entries each for Purple Hearts and Bronze Stars. A good clerk, a mediocre clerk, or even a completely dumbass clerk would know to put one entry for each medal. For the Purple Heart, whoever typed it into the DD214, wrote “with one one silver star and one gold star” instead of the usual “(7th Award)”.
While we’re talking about the Purple Heart, here is the citation Mr Rather presents for doubters – one citation with all seven instances of his wounds;
For the record, if he had earned seven Purple Hearts, he’d have seven citations not one citation that is nothing but a list of dates. His assignments do show one hospital stay as a patient from June to September 1966 and afterwards, he returned to Vietnam, so I’m pretty sure that he has one Purple Heart.
Of course, we’ve already mentioned his lack of training for the SEAL Trident as verified by Don Shipley. But, on to his Silver Star. Here’s his citation;
He was indeed in Vietnam with the Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Company in 1972, but Elmo Zumwalt was a full admiral and the Chief of Naval Operations by then and had been in that office for two years by the time Mr Wallace Rather has Zumwalt’s signature on the Silver Star citation as a Vice Admiral commanding Naval forces in Vietnam. Mr Rather wasn’t a Navy UDT frogman, either, so I don’t know why he’d be disarming a bomb on the hull of a Korean transport ship.
His last assignment is HCMS (senior chief hospital corpsman) and, although I’ve never been in the moister service, I think that’s an E-8, I think an E-9 would be an HMCM: Master Chief Hospital Corpsman.
It looks to me that HCMS Rather edited his DD 214 before he left the Navy. The Navy has been informed of the above discrepancies, but apparently, HCMS Rather has some friends in the Navy Department who would rather brag that they know a 7-Purple Heart SEAL faker than get to the truth about him.
You can Google around and find where he was convicted of insurance fraud, but we only care about military frauds here. Obviously, he’s been a fraud for a very long time, and it continues.
PS: You people on Reddit are illiterate morons. He went to the CIA’s BUD/S class? Really, which one was that? Don Shipley says he didn’t go to BUD/S, so he didn’t go to BUD/S – it’s that easy. They put all of his Purple Hearts on one citation because of OpTempo? Over a period of four years they found five minutes to put them all on one? Fucking idiots.
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Correct, John. HMCS is senior chief, E8, while HMCM would be Master chief, E9.
Sounds as if Rather is from the John “Lurch” Kerry school of Purple Hearts.
I had a guy on my ACAV in 1968 that was sent home after receiving his fourth Purple Heart, which was SOP back then.
Another legitimate and honorable military career ruined by falsehoods and exaggerations.
I just don’t get it…
It has to be a mental disorder, or something.
We should reserve judgment until Degrata Tactical can declare Wallace Grey Rather as the “real deal”.
http://thetruthaboutsocnetlies.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/degrata-tactical-swears-that-john-giduck-is-the-real-deal/
If they swear he is the real deal based on some trinkets and doodads, Wallace Grey Rather is the real deal. They swore I was the real deal.
sincerely
John “Faker 6” Giduck
There appears to be a great deal of omitted information on your posted. Allow me to clarify several points. During any investigation, such as yours, to accurately ascertain the truth, it requires an accusation by an accuser plus a response by the accused. The following is my explanation: 1st. The fake SEAL claim. I am not a member of SEAL team, nor have I ever claimed to be. As further proof positive I refer you to your posted picture. There is no Trident (SEAL Team insignia) on my uniform. There is however a USN Scuba pin and a Navy Marine Corps Parachute insignia which I will address later. 2nd. The issue of the seven Purple Heart awards citation. The representation you’ve shown is not the actual citation. What you have shown is a memorabilia illustration which was given me at my retirement party. I also have similar illustrations for the Silver Star plus Bronze Star. As to the validity of the Purple Hearts, I have individual citations per each incident. The first three were while serving with the Marine Corps which include a severe head wound, shrapnel from a grenade booby trap, and a gunshot wound to the right thigh which required a muscle transplant. Following a 6 month rehabilitation assignment, I returned to Vietnam with the Naval Riverine forces in the Mekong Delta. The mobile riverine forces carried 9th Infantry Army troops throughout the Delta utilizing the extremely narrow rivers and canals to drop them off for ground operations. The rivers proved to be ideal ambush areas for the enemy to fire directly into the boats with B40 rocket propelled grenades. The rockets threw shrapnel throughout the boats wounding almost everyone, Army and Navy men alike. Each of the final four Purple Hearts where produced by this type of shrapnel injury. Usually the injury were numerous but superficial. Only when the metal shrapnel required medical intervention was a Purple Heart awarded. Hence, three while with the Marine Corp and four while with the Navy riverine forces 3rd. The Silver Star. This was awarded at the US Naval Hospital, Orlando… Read more »
You lied at NHCS, and you are lying now. I was THERE at NHCS when you were. You did wear a Trident, and I am swearing in as an eyewitness right now. Your fellow poser buddy Larry Jacobs got caught, and now so have you. And now you’re wearing MY Reconnaissance gear, which I’m certain you are lying about as well. “Attended jump school on leave at my own expense” my dying ass. That’s not just unlikely, it’s illegal. I am a career Recon IDC HM8403, a static line and freefall jumpmaster, and open/closed circuit diving supervisor – those are my genuine and documented bona fides. Your SRB and citations are as fake as a 3 dollar bill. I am stating positively for the record that I personally saw you wearing your fake trident, and that in this Senior Chief’s EXPERT opinion, your record and claims are bogus. You offer explanations that are vague and unverifiable. Your service documents and citations are not worded correctly, they are out of order and date, and I and hundreds of other NHCS students saw you wearing a SEAL trident.
Worst of all, is that I actually looked up to you as a student. I and others viewed you with awe, and whispered rumors about you with reverence. I hope every member of your family and community gets a chance to read this. You lied and posed then, you are doing it now.
FU
Sarc88
HMCS(DV/FPJ/FMF) USN Ret
P.S. Take off my badges right now. Also remove your CPO Anchors – you are a disgrace to the Mess and Initiated men everywhere.
I also remember him wearing the trident while at Great Lakes. What a piece of shit. I was the Asst. Navy Personnel Office at 1st FSSG when Larry Jacobs was busted.
I would be interested in hearing about any information you have regarding LCDR Jacobs. I have heard stories over the years but nothing substantial. I remember him well.
Sarc88,
You are 100% CORRECT about this guy wearing a SEAL Trident when he was an instructor at NHCS. I was there as a student from 17Apr-22Jul 1981. He wore that SEAL Trident on his uniform EVERY DAY when I was there!! I am not a SEAL or Diver, but this is not only DISRESPECTFUL to our SEAL’s and Diver’s but to EVERY Sailor who wore the uniform with Honor and Pride. 2 words this guy doesn’t know the meaning of.
I was with you as well, looking up to him in awe because of the “Like 10 Frickin rows of ribbons” and the SEAL Trident. I believe he used to kid and say that was for drinking the most beer!
This guy is a DISGRACE to the MESS and would NOT be welcome if I had anything to do with it. I would say this guy is a “7”
Dccab
HMCS(AW/NAC)USN Ret
I was in one of yure last classes at corps school great Lakes. I have looked up to you as a personal hero snice then. Reading this has been very hurtful. Please respond to me with the provided proof you’re legit. My e-mail is christcollins@live.com. I appreciate any info from anyone but this was very hard to read.
I went to Corpsman “A” school spring/summer 84′ and had LT Jacobs as an instructor, in awe of all those ribbons and the SEAL Trident. I also remember HMCM Rather who had even more. When I learned later about LT Jacobs fraud I always wondered why HMCM Rather’s never picked up on it since it’s such a small community, now I know.
HMC(DMT) (Ret.)
I am Greys younger brother and the only time he lies is when his lips are moving. I believe he has disgraced his uniform and instead of being proud to just serve, that was never enough. I do credit him with his tours, and that alone is enough to be proud of. I can look back at stories he told and we believed because that is what family does, support, but looking back, they are just outrageous lies. He told us over dinner one night after his last return that 3 shuttle planes he was on, including the last leg fro Hawaii actually crash landed, 3 flights in 3 days.
Good luck with your research but he was always good at manipulating so he may actually have certificates but I don’t believe a word he ever says
Grey, you tried wearing the Trident when you were a contractor at HM A-School and the XO told you to take it off. Don’t lie about that. There are plenty of graduation pictures floating around showing you wearing the trident. Don’t lie.
If you look closely her copied someone else’s Silver Star citation from 2 years pervious. Hard to believe the exact same incident happened at the exact same place 2 years after. Grey you are a FAKE and a disgrace! You told all of those Corps school kids lies about you being a SEAL and you wore the TRIDENT. Captain Norton called you in his office and told you to stop wearing it. LIAR.
Phildo’s dad.
I found an article from the VFW in which Rather is listed as being among the top PH recipients:
http://digitaledition.qwinc.com/publication/?i=44657&p=17
Yeah, I read it. Nowhere is verification mentioned. In fact, the article asks, “Should you or someone you know be on the list?”
True enough. However, the article was written by Fred Borch, who is the Army JAG Corps’ regimental historian, so I’d hope he actually did some research before submitting the article. I could be wrong, of course.
I can understand and realize that most of us that have or will see combat has had a very high probability of being awarded ONE Purple Heart, but being awarded seven PH’s tells me that A=Your a poser, or B=They should have sent your ass home along time ago because you are that damned incompetent to be sent out side the wire to begin with.
I myself was damned lucky to have never earned one, and in today’s static environment of modern operations and how the insurgencies of Iraq and Afghanistan operate make that even harder to accomplish, but I cannot remember were I read a statement years ago that stated most Purple Hearts are nothing but enemy marksman ship medals.
Colonel Robert Howard (awarded the MOH) received 8 Purple Hearts. Not too sure I would put him in that group you describe.
I understand what you are saying, but the late great Col. Howard never boasted about it, nor did he ever use his combat record to bolster himself.
I myself had heard of Col. Howard way back in the mid 80’s when I served, but I never knew of his extensive combat record in till I saw his obituary on NBC News with Brian Williams a few years ago.
Published accounts indicate COL Howard was actually wounded 14 times in Vietnam, but that he thought 6 of them “too minor” to merit a Purple Heart and either didn’t request one or convinced his superiors not to put him in for one.
Mag-36, had 4 squadrons waiting or circling in near area to go in and extact Col. Howard ‘s recon squad. If a Corpsman in Nam had earned 7 PHs . I would have read or heard about him. The FMF Corpsman is not that big of Corpsman. The Corpsman would been bragging about him. Joe
A buddy of mine has 3 (I believe) PH’s. He calls them his I forgot to duck ribbons or his IMT failure badge.
Dude was a bullet magnet…too bad he embellished, he had a very honorable resume already.
I’m just not understanding the Purple Heart Certificate.. All the ones I have seen, state 2nd Award, 3rd Award..etc. The Silver and Gold Stars are for the ribbon.. Never seen any Certificate show stars.. Seen lots of “with “V”. It was issued in 1971. Whoever wrote it up should have known better.
read that silver star citation.
wow. the officers and clerks of the day needed to re-educated.
Or maybe “unhesitatiagly” means he was just really super happy to be there helping people out and stuff.
Citations are a reflection of the command, signature authority, and the awardee. That citiation is written like a drunk monkey did it.
ooops. I read the Bronze Star one….gah. the photocopy put smudges.
I stand corrected…still…unhesitatingly is just akward.
I’d been sent back to rewrite that one.
There are so many things wrong with his awards write up. First, it would all be in order of precedence, so the Silver Star would be on top and descending from there. Also, there are not multiple awards of the rifle or pistol expert medals. Once it’s awarded, it’s for life. No requirement to requalify and therefore “earn” subsequent awards.
I seem to remember from my Navy days something about a bronze “E” awarded for shooting expert the first 2 times, and the bronze “E” wasn’t a permanent award. Once someone shot expert the 3rd time, the bronze turned to silver, and the medal was permanently awarded. That was circa 1987, so the memory might be hazy.
Navy pistol and rifle ribbon marksman (“S” for sharpshooter) and medal (“E” for Expert) are once earned always worn.
Cripes.
Another day at TAH and…another phoney SEAL. What are the odds?
Dude has so much stuff on his uniform it is pulling it down.
In case anyone is interested, here are the references to the guy’s insurance fraud conviction. FWIW: Libertyville, IL, is roughly 4 miles west-southwest of Great Lakes NTC.
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-167400799.html
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-161942126.html
Seeing the entire articles requires signing up for a service, but what’s available there in the free lead-in is enough to show the guy pleaded guilty and got what appears to be a relatively lenient sentence for insurance fraud. I’m wondering if he didn’t play the “I’m a heroic vet who screwed up” card to get a lighter sentence.
Thank you so much for exposing this fraud.
Stolen Valor a victimless crime? Not so much. I dealt with this fraud’s lies while on deployment in Afghanistan. Young HMs were asking about a “neck tourniquet” that Mr. Rather bragged about using. Young HM’s also thought that anyone with PTSD was violent, edgy, and couldn’t be reasoned with as Mr. Rather would routinely punch Corps School students in their chest if they “snuck up” on him and “surprised” him.
Oh, and regarding his silver star…..what a fraud. Check SECNAVINST 1650.1H. The Silver Star awarding authority is not the CNO. It is most certainly not anyone below the CNO.
I hold him in more contempt than I hold Bernath. One has fantasies about being a chief, the other one has used his anchors for evil, to serve his own selfish desires, and to tear down the Navy.
There are no expletives strong enough to describe my contempt for him.
Thank you for finally publishing something on him.
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After reading this I stand corrected.
This is Phildo’s mentor.
Excellent points. I didn’t think you could get lower than Bernath, but when you suborn the leadership role that younger people are looking up to you for, and putting lives in danger … yeah, I’ll agree he’s worse.
Who the fuck wrote up these awards–Visconti?
Also, Master Chief, maybe you or a PN or YN can help me out here.
His last entry in 1985 was RELACTDU, or Released From Active Duty. Would that still be the same for someone who retired? I know that 20-30 years you transfer to the Fleet Reserve, and after 30 you move to the Retired list.
Would it not say that, or am I reading too much into it? Even his FOIA say discharged, though, not retired or Fleet Reserve.
NHSparky – though I’m not Navy, I believe that entry is correct. I’ve seen it on a fair number of other NMC 118s when someone’s records were transferred to USNRPC at New Orleans. I believe that’s also what happens to the USN personnel records of people who retire with <30 years of active duty service.
Hondo all correct, released from active duty and records go the reserve command …
I don’t know about the Navy but my orders say something to the effect of released from active duty and placed on the Retired list. I’d have to pull out my orders to give you the exact wording, but I just moved into my new home and they are still packed.
The Army and AF place you onto the retired list, the Navy and Marine Corps release you from active duty and transfer you to the Fleet Reserve or Fleet Marine Corps Reserve where you stay until you hit a combined 30 years when your then retired.
Its basically the same thing though I believe the Fleet Reserve actually has a provision for members to report for screening every few years though I have never heard of it being used.
That is correct.
AD1 (AW) USN ret.
That Silver Star citation is indeed very . . . interesting. It references acts of heroism occurring on 14 May 1972, and was signed by “VADM E. J. Zumwalt” – obviously some time thereafter.
As Jonn noted above, in mid-May 1972 “VADM Zumwalt” did not exist. VADM Zumwalt relinquished command of US Naval Forces – Vietnam on 15 May 1970. He was appointed CNO and promoted to ADM on 1 July 1970, and was serving as CNO during May 1972.
I very seriously doubt that ADM Zumwalt was signing documents over a signature block listing him as “Vice Admiral, U. S. Navy” in May 1972. And I especially doubt he was signing documents saying he was “Commander, U. S. Naval Forces, Vietnam” two years or longer after he’d relinquished command of USNF-V.
The Silver Star was awarded by the Vice Admiral Zumwalt Commander Naval Forces Vietnam, for an incident that occured two years after he left Vietnam and became CNO. Interesting. And no schools listed for Jump, Scuba, and SEAL. I guess he earned it all OJT, like no other guy ever. An exceptional career deserving of great respect flushed by lies. The absolute worst sort of turd poser. A disgrace to all of the fantastic Corpsmen I had the honor of serving with.
A Navy Comm will specify if a “V” Device is authorized, and it says it right in the award.
Also, that is about right for issuing authority–both my NAMs were approved at 2-star level. No way in hell a Silver Star is authorized by anyone but POTUS.
My BSV was approved by SECNAV, as I believe the Silver Star is.
Okay. Was going by the citations at Hall of Heroes, which has by direction of the President.
Actually, NHSparky – SECNAV is the current approval authority per SECNAVINS 1650.1H. The instruction allows it to be designated to lower level commanders, but currently the SECNAV has retained approval authority for the Silver Star and higher decorations.
Approval authority is often decentralized for the Silver Star during wartime. (The Army awards reg explicitly states that approval authority for the Silver Star may be delegated to the 3-star level during wartime.) Given the relatively primitive state (by today’s standards) of worldwide communications during Vietnam and the desire to recognize heroism in a timely manner, it is eminently plausible that the Navy did the same.
Unfortunately, that is also the reason that awards of the Silver Star and below are such a royal pain to verify. Decentralized approval is great in terms of allowing quicker recognition. But it grossly complicates the problem of records keeping for same. It’s also why current Silver Star recipient rosters for Korea and after are not regarded as being but 80-90% complete.
I took the time to google Silver Star citations for Department of the Navy personnel serving in Vietnam during the time period in question.
SILVER STAR MEDAL should be capitalized on the opening line. Wallace Grey Rather’s citation does not reflect caps.
There are no opening and closing quotation marks for a citation. Wallace Grey Rather’s citation has opening and closing quotation marks.
Citation should begin with an indent. Wallace Grey Rather’s citation does not begin with an indent.
In my opinion, still a fake and probably never actually wounded.
http://www.riverinesailor.com/images/Bruce.Citation1.jpg
http://www.fold3.com/image/270343749/
Not saying this one is legit, AndyFMF. My previous comment pointing out that it’s signed by someone who did not exist at the time (“VADM E. J. Zumwalt” ceased to exist on 1 July 1970 when the man was promoted to ADM; the Silver Star certificate refers to heroism on 14 May 1972) makes it abundantly clear that I regard this one as a fake.
We are in complete agreement. My apologies if it sounded as though I was accusing you of being Wallace Rather apologist.
I was trying to address any rebuttal that someone else might have.
On rare occasions I break from lurker-mode, so I’ve got a pretty good idea of how you feel on issues like this.
AndyFMF: my bad. Misread your previous comment as indicating you thought I was supporting this guy, and wanted to make quite clear that I regard at least some of his claims as false. In particular, the Silver Star citation has major issues, and the Purple Heart citation is highly suspect IMO as well.
WTF, cannot figure this asshole out. All his PUC’s, NUC’s, and MUC’s all pan out in terms of dates and the proper Units. Checked under NDAWS.
That’s a pretty shitty “cut and paste” job on his DD214.
I’m sure the Navy is the only service that used Old English script on their award documents, too.
His paperwork is as phony as Obama’s birth certificate. 🙂
It is impossible to make sense of his records because too much of it is BS.
His citations are photocopied onto Page 13s. These are not the real citations. The spacing is awkward on his COMM w/ V, which makes me think that the line “Combat distinguishing device is authorized” was inserted after the fact.
If these citations were real, then explain why his history of Awards and Assignments says, “Purple heart, Bronze Star Medal,…Bronze Star with 1 Gold star (2nd Award)…” Where is the “Combat Distinguishing Device authorized”?
The same question is posed to his Navy Commendation Medal with Combat Distinguishing Device. Where is it?
The missing annotations of “with ‘V'” are not accidental as the record reflects a Joint Service Commendation Medal with “V”.
I think used the same verification system as DAN Rather……
Look everyone, it is Bernath’s fellow chief bullshit artist in the Navy.
Doug Sterner, Mary Schantag, and BG Burkett have exposed posers who were able to get bogus information into their official records. This guy seems to be no different.
I pulled my records out to check. Naval personal awards are done on form OPNAV 1650. The presence of a citation is supplemental to an award. The form is signed by their entire chain of command up to the authorizing authority. If NAV/MC records do not contain that form for each separate personal award they are not authorized. I also checked Secret squirrel activity which can not happen without form OPNAV 5520 and 5521.
Cumulative Sea Service”00yrs 00mths”
I hate it when they go through all the trouble training a SEAL and then he spends most of his career high and dry instead of haze grey and underway.
Sorry you feel that way about my never having been haze gray and underway. I never had to endure the arduous living conditions of a ship. I really pity your having to eat 3 hot meals a day, sleeping on sheets in a bed, air conditioning, enduring the anguish of using a toilet. You never experiencing the thrill of being shot at or having a shipmate blown to pieces and his blood being splattered all over your clothes and in your face an in your hair. Your life must have been pure hell. I, on the other hand had the luxury of sleeping under the stars even in the rain, mosquitoes the size of humming birds, eating cold food out of WW2 C-rat cans. I didn’t have to wait for a toilet to be open, just go behind a tree and let go. The exhilaration of not knowing when a sniper would decide today was your time to get shot in the head, or missing stepping on a booby-trap, running through the mud of rice patties while being shot at.
You poor sole, missing the adventure of the great outdoors in war time. Yea, you certainly have my sympathy. You really missed out on what the Navy is all about.
So did you faker. You wore the TRIDENT at HM A School. You are a complete liar. I lost all respect for you. I see you now and then at Lovell and I pity anyone who happens to believe in your BS.
What a shit-heel. This guy ist a Viscunti, He id mote like that bag off shit Larry Gugle, the guy in the Marine Corps who doctored his SRB to mke it look like he came in two years earlier and served in Vietnam, getting awards for combat.
That fuckstick got caught when he was a 1st Sgt, was busted to Gunny and allowed to retire. He popped up a few years later and conned the 1/9 vterans group, until he was busted and outed again.
Rather was a worm who got a hold of his records or heavy barreled someone into putting that crap in there.
The chances are no one is going to do much about it, unfortunately. The Navy doesnt award 2nd award Expert bars on rifle and pistol badges, unless he qualified on the Marine Corps KD range ( which is a slight possiblity) he would never rate,,and Ive never ever,,, ever heard the term “Exoert Pistol SHOT” in a record book.
Fuck this guy.
Except this guy had some pretty good connections to help him doctor his records in questionable manner that blurs the lines. Visconti was one thing, but this guy maybe did not even have to go overboard like he did.
This guy looks like Larry Hagman.
Back in the day it wouldnt be that hard for someone to show up at a new duty station with an SRB that was thicker than when he left his last command.
That’s some truly sinister shit to do. I mean you gotta have a lack of morals and integrity to stuff your records PCS after PCS. Piece of shit move to do. I guessing that has to be the reason for this mess he has created.
I remember this fucktard from Hospital Corps School Great Lakes. Had a office full of shit, a mickey mouse with a k-bar in its head, and an ass ton of rack on his chest. I think he was the Senior Enlisted for Academics or something and i do believe he was sporting HMCM at the time. He was a bit off.
Gene,
I remember him as an HMCM at NHCS GLAKES in 84, and also sporting a Trident, Craftmaster, and the office goods too.
This guy does not look like the same Grey Rather I recall tho; but a coincidence would be almost impossible.
There was also a LT nurse corps Larry Jacobs, who was later busted as phony RVN NSW.
V/R
HMCS(DV/FPJ/FMF) HM8403 USN Ret
As well, he said” he had longer hair because of the metal plates” His story was that the barber clippers would cause problems”
I am either amazed or flabbergasted that you have had such a mundane life that you nothing better to remember of your time at Corps school other than a Mickey Mouse hanging in my office. Sadly though, without even asking you’ve never known the significance of the Mickey Mouse. The hanging Mickey Mouse was a gift from one of my classes. Had you noticed too, the mouse’s T-shirt had the class motto printed on it. The classes’ motto was: “Don’t let the Mickey Mouse BS get to you” What a waste of the wrong memory after 35 years.
You are nothing more than a low life, ball-working dude.
There you go, this thread was almost dead, and you had to come breath life back into it with more bullshit! Why is it so many of you former ‘shipmates’, and students remember YOU sporting a Trident? Please re-live that memory for us!
I wonder if Phil Monkress ever had this guy as a instructor?
If so, some of “Wacky” Wallace here surely “rubbed” of on Commander Phil.
Submit a DD215 and have your records corrected. It is bad enough to live a lie for decades, making no effort to correct it is just gutless.
His certificate for his purple heart is messed up. You would get a cert for each one awarded. It would not be combined all of the cert.
Also it would be the date and the reason of why he is receiving the purple heart for.
Some examples
Sorry for the long links…but it shows what a real Purple Heart Cert is suppose to look like.
I worked on certs when I was in the military and have never seen a blotched up cert like that before.
Yeah, I was checking that out earlier, too. Who signed the Navy-issued PH certificates? Through the 1940s it was the Secretary of War; then, for the Army it was the Secretary of the Army. I saw a few Navy certs, but couldn’t make out who signed them. Also, the Army certs are countersigned by the Army Adjutant General, but the Navy cert appears to have a single signature.
I also googled for 1971, but couldn’t find any Navy PH certs, but saw some USMC PH certs (single signature).
P.S., If I correctly recall, the USMC certs were signed by a Marine general.
Shitbird.
This turd may have legitimately earned a Bronze Star, but has anyone ever seen a citation that read, “For heroic achievement?” I’ve seen, “For heroic actions” or “meritorious achievement.” but never seen one written the way Rather’s is.
ATC,I don’t believe even the Bronze Star(s)? is legit,even with the “heroic achievement” BS. From the VHPA(Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association) site that has 99.999% accuracy for all birds(including Navy)lost in RVN, on 5 April 1969 no helicopter losses were reported for that day from any services/areas of operation. It is a bogus write-up. Check out the site,it has a lot of good stuff on it,especially their other site VHPA/Museum. Lots of good pictures of helicopters,bases and flight personnel.
Just to tie it all together in one place. http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/pig-and-associates-newport-news-virginia-c380174.html RATHER, WALLACE GREY AKA GREG RATHER AKA GREY RATHER AKA WALLACE G CATHER 10/2009 05/2010 Great Lakes IL area http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=557468111 Miami Norland High School Miami, FL Class of 1963 Biography: Military Spent 7+ years in Vietnam with the USN/USMC and the Saigon embassy. Staye… read more Claims Silver Star, numerous Purple Hearts —————————————————————— Byline: Sara Faiwell Daily Herald Staff Writer A man who ran a Libertyville heath care business faces federal charges for allegedly bilking insurance companies out of nearly $3, 000. Wallace Rather, who ran the National Institute of Allergy in Libertyville, was indicted Tuesday by a grand jury and charged with… ——————————————— Libertyville man pleads guilty to insurance scam (11 April 2007) A Libertyville man pleaded guilty to insurance fraud Tuesday, admitting he billed insurance companies for procedures his allergy clinic never actually performed. Wallace Grey Rather, 62, pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge Samuel Der-Yeghiayan and admitted his actions as owner of the… http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6431425/Libertyville-man-pleads-guilty-to.html ———————————————————- Rather, Grey – (847) 984-2445 – greyrather@comcast.net – Libertyville, IL – 1966-67 Golf company/7th Marines http://www.golfco7thmar.com/Roster2.html —————————————————————– Wallace Grey Rather View Details 64 Grayslake, IL Libertyville, IL Lake Bluff, IL Lindenhurst, IL 2010 RATHER, WALLACE GREY, or Grey as he likes to be called was hired recently as a civilian contractor to teach at NHCS, Great Lakes, IL. He claims to be a SEAL and has worn his uniform with many high decorations (i.e. Silver Star, Purple Heart, Trident). Some of his history seems out of context to his claims (i.e. being stationed with a SEAL team and then being stationed with a Marine 2nd Recon BN). . 2010 I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. Before answering your questions I must make clear that I am a private individual, not affiliated with the US Dept. of Defense or any other government organization. My efforts to expose SEAL imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my SEAL Teammates who gave their lives… Read more »
Steven Robinson, same fella who signed Dennis Chevaliers book.
The listing on the for his for the Bronze Star and Purple Heart Medals state with “gold and silver stars” for multiple awards of the medals. Unless things were different then, oak eaf clusters – not stars – are the devices used to denote additional awards for both of these medals. Also, the color for a second award would be bronze, not gold.
Stars are almost exclusively used for campaign medals – a bronze star on the ribbon denoting participation in two campaigns; a silver star denoting five.
Army/AF use the OLC. Navy and Marines use bronze star in lieu of subsequent awards.
ETA…and personal awards (NAM, NCM, etc, would be a gold star.) Bronze is for unit or ribbon, or GCM.
Where did this clowndog retire? Is that info available?
NA Form 13164 says he left active duty at Great Lakes, Delilah T. I’m presuming that was when he was transferred to the Fleet Reserve. That’s also consistent with his being a resident of Libertyville, IL, in 2007 when he pleaded guilty to insurance fraud, and with other accounts indicating he was working as a civilian at Great Lakes after he left active duty.
And I’ll just bet I know where he has breakfast on Sunday mornings, ’cause they give a discount to AD and retirees.
PS: You people on Reddit are illiterate morons. He went to the CIA’s BUD/S class? Really, which one was that? Don Shipley says he didn’t go to BUD/S, so he didn’t go to BUD/S – it’s that easy. They put all of his Purple Hearts on one citation because of OpTempo? Over a period of four years they found five minutes to put them all on one? Fucking idiots.
“You people on Reddit are illiterate morons.”
You’re just now figuring this out?
When Bernath and Wittgenfeld get them whipped up into a fucktardian frenzy, that would basically tell me calling them retarded is giving them way too much credit.
And insulting to retards the world over.
While not surprised with the documents, the inability for most clerks writing DD-214s and seeing if the pass the smell test does not happen. When leaving from a previous deployment the clerk just asked for my awards and took my word for it. No proof required. I was honest about but I am sure many are not. Especially in the current ” everybody gets a trophy society”. I even saw a National guard retirees USMC discharge that had an obvious Combat Ribbon and Purple Heart added in a different type style and size but took it to the NG and the clerk just added it onto his 214 with no supporting docs. If you really want the true Stolen Valor just look at the Delaware Guards Jack Maslin. You can still fool most of the people all of the time.
If you’ve got a full name (first/middle/last), POB, DOB, and approximate dates of active duty service – I’ll be happy to file a FOIA on the guy. (SSN works in place of POB and DOB.)Disregard – I didn’t initially recognize the name. That’s one of the a-hole phoneys B. G. Burkett outed in his book Stolen Valor.
Hey, I just found my memo awarding me the Good Conduct Medal as a CPT. No shit really. The perscom clerk just added me to it. When incompetence rises to this level I doubt most sources. Whats really amazing is how many still in the service get caught with bad paper, awards, and decorations.. We actually had a CPT get her promotion pic with a combat patch and other bogus awards. I think she thought the board would no catch it and when they did she filed EO complaints against all involved.
Sir,be proud of that GCM. In the words of COL Potter(who did have one),”Patton didn’t have one,McArthur neither” I’m the voice on the intercom from the left gunners well. UH-1 Crew Chief 71-72,Phu Bai,RVN.
Search for this faker at the VA. Used the information from here. There is no record on this faker. If he claims these Purple Hearts, then he hasn’t gone to VA to get the benefits. Unless this an alias he uses, or served under a different name.
Is there any other alias for the faker? I would just love to find out and if he is getting VA benefits, have it taken away.
While I admire your intent, please tread carefully. You might want to get one of those Lois Lerner Hard Drives… if ya know what I mean.
As far as chasing down VA fraudsters in general, TAH archives would be the happy hunting grounds, hypothetically speaking.
Sometimes the FOIA document includes the service number/serial number of the individual. Not sure if that will help someone doing research.
Who knows? The VA is full of imposters. As they deny real combat Vets claims, they pay posers and legal counsel(s) do their best to hide it.
I sent you a message via Facebook. It will be in your “other” folder as we are not friends on Facebook. Please read…
Some VA’s who send request to me to upload a vet for service here don’t do their eligibility properly. Been here for 4 years and had to turn down close to 50 “veterans” because they were not eligible for VA care. Just love when I get the calls with people cussing at me cause I did my job right.
Rb325th..was that directed to me? Add me as a friend if you like. I will check in the other box tonight when I get home.
There appears to be a great deal of omitted information on your posted. Allow me to clarify several points. During any investigation, such as yours, to accurately ascertain the truth, it requires an accusation by an accuser plus a response by the accused. The following is my explanation: 1st. The fake SEAL claim. I am not a member of SEAL team, nor have I ever claimed to be. As further proof positive I refer you to your posted picture. There is no Trident (SEAL Team insignia) on my uniform. There is however a USN Scuba pin and a Navy Marine Corps Parachute insignia which I will address later. 2nd. The issue of the seven Purple Heart awards citation. The representation you’ve shown is not the actual citation. What you have shown is a memorabilia illustration which was given me at my retirement party. I also have similar illustrations for the Silver Star plus Bronze Star. As to the validity of the Purple Hearts, I have individual citations per each incident. The first three were while serving with the Marine Corps which include a severe head wound, shrapnel from a grenade booby trap, and a gunshot wound to the right thigh which required a muscle transplant. Following several months rehabilitation assignment, I returned to Vietnam with the Naval Riverine forces in the Mekong Delta. The mobile riverine forces carried 9th Infantry Army troops throughout the Delta utilizing the extremely narrow rivers and canals to drop them off for ground operations. The rivers proved to be ideal ambush areas for the enemy to fire directly into the boats with B40 rocket propelled grenades. The rockets threw shrapnel throughout the boats wounding almost everyone, Army and Navy men alike. Each of the final four Purple Hearts where produced by this type of shrapnel injury. Usually the injuries were numerous but superficial. Only when the metal shrapnel required medical intervention was a Purple Heart awarded. Hence, three while with the Marine Corp and four while with the Navy riverine forces 3rd. The Silver Star. This was awarded at the US Naval Hospital, Orlando Florida… Read more »
Nice story there Rather…
Perhaps you should send verifiable copies to Jonn Lilyea. You can find his contact info at the top of the page. If what you say is true, then that should be no problem. If its not, well guess what Sparkle Pony…you just became a new chew toy.
Given the man’s past, um, “adventures” in court, TC – I’d not advise holding my breath waiting for documentation. And if he does happen to send something, I’d advise looking very closely at any paperwork he might happen to provide that “backed” his claims.
@Hondo~
Good point. Perhaps he can contact Frank Visconti to help with said documents, Birdrain Bernath to represent him for any more lawsuits or criminal cases and Psulio The Uncoolio Wickre and Cheese Slayer Chevelier/LIAR to do some in depth investigations. The Purple Chicken Clown Dullas Witengenfeld can just be just use as auxiliary entertainment
Those of you that have weighed in with your opinions have absolutely no idea of whom you’re talking about. Upon his transfer out of the US Navy, in 1985 Grey Rather established the National Institute of Allergy, a small medical allergy laboratory. After 20 years in business, he had the opportunity to sell the company and retire. Part of the selling agreement require the residual payments be continued until each patients treatment cycle was completed. The sub-contracted independent billing organization would send the bills to the appropriate insurance company for payment and the collections were then forwarded to Grey Rather’s business account. Over the 20 year period, tens of thousands of appropriate bills were processed in this manner. Unbeknownst to the billing agency or Mr. Rather one patient passed away but bills were processed and paid in error. This claim amounted to two bills in the total amount of $3266. Blue Cross/ Blue Shield of Illinois filed a legal action, charging fraud. When confronted with this, Mr. Rather’s attorney recommended settling the issue immediately but the insurance company refused and the court case proceeded. Rather admitted the mistake, was ordered to pay restitution to the insurance company, given a $350.00 court fine, and placed on 90 days court supervision. Unfortunately this lead to a local newspaper article which is now in the internet realm. This was the entire situation. Not exactly a Bernie Madoff or Al Capone criminal.
He was a fraud before he ever got that far. You’re barking up the wrong tree, “Captain”.
Word.
The “Captain” above probably pulled young dudes for him in various ports of call.
Losers of the same stench usually smell the same.
Just saying.
He also applied for a patient administration job at the VA stating he was a in charge of records at HM A School as a contractor. He couldn’t get a security clearance as a contractor so he wasn’t in charge of ANYTHING but lying and wearing fake ribbons.
TO: HM A School Instructor
In the pusillanimous veil of antimony, the federal law of Pub.L. 93–579, 88 Stat. 1896, enacted December 31, 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552a is violated. By violating this federal law, the Lovell FHCC, the VA and the USN have been compromised. It is suggested the Lovell FHCC legal department be advised. Once again proving the adage:
“Give the village idiot enough rope and they always hang themselves.”
Wow. So, you’re functionally illiterate, too?
‘The pusillanimous veil of antimony’?
Transliteration: the lazy veil of the chemical element with symbol Sb, used in flameproofing, ceramic enamels, glass and pottery.
Really, Rather, you should stop your pretenses before you go any further. You’ve already been found out, exposed and determined to be a fraud. I heard about you and your idiotic neck tourniquet thingy when I was at the Naval Regional Medical Center in 1973-74 Philadelphia doing medical photography, you putz.
You should sober up and find something useful to do with what’s left of your life.
Explanations like Adm. Zumwalt is a time traveler? I like stories.
YAPyapyapyapyapyap…
That’s an incredible story there. I noticed you hardly stuttered at all.
The shock treatments seem to be working–up the voltage.
I can no longer sit by and allow the castigation of Master Chief Rather. I have known Master Chief Rather for more than 45 years and can attest to his character throughout most of his military career. I first met HM3 Rather in Vietnam where I was his platoon sergeant. I was with him when he incurred a serious head wound from an NVA mortar round. He volunteered to return to our unit where he again was wounded by a booby trapped grenade fragments. He again returned and volunteered for every patrol, night ambush and combat operations our unit was assigned. Finally, on Operation DeSoto, he was severely wounded for the third time, this time by a 50 caliber round in his right leg. Several years later, we reconnected in Saigon in SubUnit 1, 1st ANGLICO, FMF. He had since been promoted to Chief Petty Officer and I to 1st Lieutenant, O.I.C. of the S-3 division. My responsibility was to coordinate all combat missions for the unit. Again, Chief Rather volunteered of every assignment even thought there were junior corpsmen available for the duty. ANGLICO departed Vietnam on the second to the last official day of the Vietnam War and Chief Rather was transferred to USNH, Orlando, Fla. for a shore duty position. Chief Rather and I later re-assigned at 2nd Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, Camp LeJeune. I had been promoted to Captain and was a Recon Company Commander. Chief Rather, also while at this assignment was promoted to Senior Chief Petty Officer. Sr. Chief Rather was the chief of the Medical Department and due to his diving qualification was often the Assistant Diving Officer during sub-op training exercises. In May, 1985, I was given the honor as the guest speaker for Master Chief Rather’s retirement ceremony from the Navy. In all the 46 years we have known each other, I can say without equivocation, Grey Rather exudes honor in every respect. Since his retirement, Master Chief Rather was solicited to teach as a contract instructor at the now disestablished Naval Hospital Corps School on the Great Lakes Naval… Read more »
So, you’re willing to vouch for the Special Warfare Badge on his DD214. I mean he admits that he isn’t a SEAL, but there’s the badge right there on his DD214. And, I’m fairly certain that you’re a sockpuppet since you’re using the residential IP address that the fellow identifying himself as Wallace Rather used the other day. Unless you guys are shacked up together.
Dammit, Jonn, you beat me to the punch! 🙂
Identical IP addresses, they never think of that when putting on the guise of a sockpuppet, do they?
These ain’t the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
Sockpuppet! That’s the word I was trying to think of!
Wondering if Jonn has had a chance to pull the IP addys of this “supporter.” I’m betting on sock puppet for Capt. Bull Dawg.
Yeah, we fall for that sockpuppet thing every time, no matter how many times they try it. I’m a little embarrassed about that.
more like Capt. Bull Crap.
/PhD….Piled Higher & Deeper
I remember this turd.
He appears to have been Commander Phil Monkress’ at All-Points Logistics mentor during Phildo’s younger days.
You know, like when he went from E-2 to 0-5 overnight? And who needs a Commissioning source, right? They just slow things down!
This maggot is the one that trained him!
Hey, some of us are just gluttons for punishment!
50 caliber round in his right leg
Okay, now I’m no ballistics expert, but I am staying in a Holiday Inn Express tonight. (No, seriously, I am.)
I’m gonna take a wild fucking guess here and say that someone who took a .50 round in the leg wouldn’t HAVE a fucking leg when all was said and done.
Care to dispute? Oh, and when the the NVA/VC ever use .50 cal?
Yeah, I pretty much stopped reading there, asswipe.
Spot on, 50 Cal to the leg. Bingo no leg. As for the NVA/ VC using a 50 Cal. They used a 51 Cal. Russian or Chinese made. As I recall the theory was, in a pinch they could use our 50 Cal. Ammunition in their 51 Cal.
Gotta love these guys and their stupid, unreal, bullshit, war stories!
Further, the kinetic energy carried in 50 cal would blow the leg off clear up to the chest!
But what do I know?
Oh, does he have a limp?
The barrel alone ways more than 20 pounds! During training at Ft. Lewis, we fired that beast. What were our targets? Refrigerators and car hulks. Went thru them like a hot knife thru butter.
Fifty cal leg wound my ass!
Meant weighs, damnit!
Even I knew a .50 cal would take off a leg, and I was a GP vehicle mechanic in the Air Force for God’s sake! Do people like this ever take a step back and really think about what they’re writing? It’s completely mental.
Awesome.
I remember “Heavy Metal”.
Hey CAPT BULL SCHITZ,
Have your MCPO buddy contact me.
Jonn has me POC and he can foward your email.
I can set this all straight.
It starts like this:
BS … Try again!
A Real MCPO
Unless the guy was sporting a prosthetic leg, he wasn’t hit with that monster round. Saw a single .50 round cut a man in two in Iraq, so just imagine what it would do to a leg. Sounds like complete and utter bullshit to me.
*Ahem*….This thing on?…*taps mic*
My name is Doc….and I’m a medic.
I have had this affliction for over 30 years.
I might have spent a day or two in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In all that time I have never seen a .50 cal wound that required the attention of a medic.
In 99.99% of those cases, the casualty was beyond any medical care….however, it did make for an impressive and gory display of Hollywood Special effects proportions as the unlucky individual in question was turned into large wet airborne chunks of tissue.
The remaining .01% I observed were victims of butter fingers because they dropped a 50 cal ammo can on their foot.
care to try again “Ratherbo”?
Please put this phony in the SV Tournament; I’ll do the write up for you!
John, you were sent the ‘entire’ file proving without a doubt ALL the information you’ve question has now been verified and substantiated. When are you going to provide THAT to your blogger followers?
As I wrote to you in an email, the mountain of useless documents that you provided are insufficient evidence to support your claims. That, and about ten real deal SEALs dispute your account of earning a silver Trident. I’m not arguing with real SEALs, I’d rather take my chances with a pretend SEAL. Also, I told you in the email that since you want to threaten legal retribution, all of your further communications with me should be through my lawyer. His email address is right where you found my snail mail address. Good luck.
Another lying sack of shit that will stick to his lies and take it to the grave.
there’s no helping some folks.
Just as Don Shipley said.
Rather, you are delusional. Being a compulsive liar is not doing you any good.
People who KNEW YOU are confirming that you are lying.
Get some help with your problem.
I’ve heard some amazing stories about “neck tourniquets” and “how Corps School students shouldn’t surprise you because you might hit them in the chest”.
I also heard stories about service with Recon and SEALS at the same time.
Comments?
I’d hate to think that young impressionable Sailors are liars.
Nice job Grey. I had forgotten about you. Thanks for the reminder. If any docs proved your claims, Jonn couldn’t get them posted here fast enough, silly fellow. If he says the emailed docs were insufficient, they were likely woefully insufficient. Most every bullshitter and false claimant builds the bullshit on some truth. You would not believe the number of people who actually served, some in a combat theater, others with enviable records, who decided their true record was lacking the wow-he’s-a-freakin-hero factor…and then set about falsely creating just that. They are sorry bastards, don’t you agree?
This dude works balls.
Seven sets at one time, no less.
Just an old, gnarly shitbag.
I’m sure he does tricks for winos behind bus stops in the seedy sections of his town as well.
I can only imagine he will be hanging out with the “Retirement Version” of the DRC soon.
Kirjath Toney and the likes.
Old shitbags.
Yeah, he sent me medical records to “prove” the Purple Heart claims. He had the medical records, but no orders or citations. I think he was trying to trick me into a HIPAA violation. However, all of his medical records were destroyed in my fireplace, so he can’t get me that way.
Because no medical types have ever falsified a record…
Makes one wonder what sort of falsified records may have influenced CPO/SCPO/MCPO Boards to promote this guy.
Better watch out, Jonn – he may send his buttbuddy Capt. Bullshit Dog after you for destroying the records of a friend that he has known for 45 years…a fried with “integrity”.
TheCloser – it wouldn’t surprise me if the assclown passed of some of his “records” to the CPO/SCPO/MCPO boards to help get selected… I would have thought that CPO initiation would have pulled his head out of his ass and taught his about HONOR. Must have gone to MickeyD’s for his E-7 “initiation (complete with the singing of Kumbaya)
There are a couple of people that have posted here that I personally know (and served with as instructors at HM “A” School) – if they are calling this turd out as a liar, that’s good enough for me…
Another poser here http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=18481
that was promoted to Warrant Officer in the Coast Guard, I’m sure largely as a result of his altered DD-214 indicating he was a Navy SEAL.
I reported to 2nd Recon as “Wally” was leaving. I heard the stories about how a BAS corpsman at Wally’s direction, falsified wally’s records…Something about a BS from Coastal Carolina and Mary’s medical records to support her claim against an insurance company.
I went AWOL from Recon Bn and foolishly spoke with “Wally” while awaiting my SPCM. I almost had the case won and then Wally called the command and ratted me out. So much for trust. Did two months in the brig. Wally had a hand in that. 9 years later I was initiated a CPO.
PBMF, Wally. Took 36 years, but you’re getting yours. Finally. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fellow.
to: Khermey
I don’t know who you are and have no memory of the incident you refer too. BUT I do know that a Chief, or at least any responsible Chief, would Never, ever aided or tolerate a scumbag AWOL lowlife in their unit and would immediately turn them over to the authorities. Obviously, that was the case. The one and only similar incident which occurred while I was at 2nd Recon, was a “Faggot, Maggot”, was outted (ratted out) by the Marines as a homosexual. While awaiting his NJP, he ran and went AWOL. When captured about six months later, he too was awarded 2 months in the brig and discharged with an ‘other than honorable discharge’ That is the only incident when a corpsman from 2nd Recon went AWOL during my tenure. But, based on your story, you stayed in the Navy and were ultimately promoted to CPO yourself. If in fact your story is true and honest, then the punishment of 2 months brig time must have been the motivating factor to have gotten your head out of your ass and put on a positive career track. If that’s case, then; “you are welcome”. I do however commend you on at least having the testicles to identify yourself. Your blogger buddies obviously lack your courage and hid behind a veil of antimony and spew their tripe, misguided as it is.
Thus speaks the man reportedly convicted of insurance fraud. You can trust everything he says as Gospel truth!
Better watch out, Hondo… he’ll either use that sekrit skwillr training as a “CIA-trained” SEAL to find you or send his anal buttsekks buttbuddy “Capt. Bullshit Dogfucker” out to get you.
Hell, it’s pretty bad when your kin even dime your ass out as a liar… and Rather is still stuck on fucking stupid with his BS, as seen as his post bringing this Zombie thread back to live one more time
Hey, Rather, you stupid ass, learn what words mean, will you?
As I pointed out above, antimony is a metallic element used in glass, enamel ceramics, etc., etc., etc.
Get a dictionary, you moron.
I bought my veil of antimony in SWEADEN.
Better watch it, Ex-PH2… he may go Bernath on you for correcting him on his obvious lack of acumen when it comes to the English language.
Well, frankly, Senior Chief, I don’t think I’d trust him to remove a splinter from my thumb.
You got me. You’ve proven your smarter than my spell check
Spell check? Oh, lawsy me, your reading comprehension is sadly lacking, Toots!
FYI, ‘antimony’ is correctly spelled.
It is the wrong WORD to use, you sap.
Try harder. And you used to teach classes at NAVSTA GLAKES, huh? In what? Window dressing?
*YAWN* Hey Rather, anyone who told you to be yourself COULD NOT HAVE given you worse advice! Don’t you realize that there are enough people to hate in the world already without your working so hard to give us another?
“Rather” a shitbag, would you not say?
Rather, when all is said and done, the records still show that you have a solid track record of being a fucking liar. You’ll take that to your grave no matter how much you whine, no matter how many documents you falsify. I just hope that you have just enough integrity left that you ensure when you do die, your head stone does not show the bogus awards that you claim.
His troubles aren’t over – you heard it here first.
Oh, SNAP!!! Sounds like THE TAH PAIN TRAIN is coming for someone!!! You done fucked the hell up when Jonn starts channeling his “inner Terry Tate”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3QP1kYWuMI
DA PAIN TRAIN IS COMIN’, BYTCH!!!
Nothing would make me happier than for him to inherit the bad karma he continues to invest in. I can’t believe he’s checking in regularly to see if we’ve magically changed our tune.
Hey Grey – I DONE TOLD YEWWW to take off my Recon badges, faker!
Lovingly,
Sarc88
HMCS(DV/FPJ/FMF) USN Ret
Another day and this dude is still an old, gnarly turd.
Lying sack-o-shit.
Mr. No-Grey-Matter Rather will get a “splash. out.” soon I’m sure.
I’m still waiting on Jonn’s teaser above. only been a few weeks.