David W. Barno: The Army’s next enemy? Peace.

| July 12, 2014

Retired Lieutenant General David W. Barno, writes in Washington Post about the challenges facing the force in the coming years that lack the intensity and demands of combat. I never thought that I’d agree with a fellow of the Center for a New American Security, but here I am. General Barno writes from the experience of being an infantry company commander in the late 70s. At about the same time I was a young infantry squad leader.

I’ll be the first to admit that I was probably the worst private in the Army to ever wear the rank, but I was the product of one of the brightest things the Army ever did. The Ranger Battalions were initially formed, not as an elite fighting force that they became, but rather a continuing education project from initial entry training. We had specially-selected officers and NCOs. Nearly every NCO above the rank of Buck Sergeant were Vietnam veterans, some company commanders and most of the staff had survived the war, too. The plan was for that cadre to pass on the lessons that they learned and pass it on to young privates who would rotate out of the unit after 18 months. I learned more about how to train soldiers in those 18 months than I did the rest of the time I spent in the Army – from the heroes of the last conflict.

I was insulated from the rest of the Army during that time while the rest of the Army was wrestling with the social changes and garrison regulations after Vietnam. It made me a little arrogant when I left the 1/75th and went to an airborne company in Panama, but it was because I was better trained than many of the NCOs in my new unit. Not to disparage them, but just stating a fact. I guess that arrogance made me a terrible private.

What I learned in the Ranger Battalion experiment stayed with me and made me a better NCO when I finally made that rank. But General Barno says pretty much the same thing in his Washington Post piece;

The Army’s senior leaders of the 1970s had endured the trials of Vietnam as mid-grade combat commanders, and they understood that the traits required for battlefield success — bold decision-making and individual leadership — would be quickly stamped out in a peacetime, rule-focused force. So they took action.

In 1979, the Army chief of staff, Gen. Edward “Shy” Meyer, advanced the controversial idea of “selective disobedience” as a way to empower junior leaders in the face of stultifying Army bureaucracy. His comments sparked a furious debate in the force, but as a young infantry company commander at the time, I knew exactly what he meant. He did not mean that we should ignore laws or violate ethical standards. But in a peacetime Army, the demands of burgeoning policies, regulations and requirements vastly exceeded the time available to comply, so leaders were empowered to set priorities and make choices. We could say no — we were even expected to say no. As I recall Gen. Robert Shoemaker telling us in a 1980 speech to leaders of the Army’s 25th Infantry Division in Hawaii: You will impress me, he said, if I come to your training site and you tell me what parts of my guidance you have chosen not to follow. You will really impress me if you have already told my staff and explained why.

It’s doubtful that any Army Chief of Staff in the next few years will have a policy like General Myers (who, by the way, is universally hated by many airborne troops, tankers and Cav guys for taking away their distinctive head gear when he took over the ACoS job). As they advanced through the field grade ranks, those Vietnam-era officers understood the value of a force that was essentially run by squad leaders who weren’t afraid of making training decisions and taking responsibility for the readiness of their small units.

Most of the NCOs from my age group flourished under the loosened restrictions, while others fell by the wayside. Units that didn’t give NCOs authority and responsibility to lead their units paid for it eventually. The unit that I went to Desert Storm with fired no fewer than seven Sergeants First Class before the opening shot was fired because they couldn’t adjust to the stress of being in charge without an officer looking over their shoulders.

This Army, that we have today, seems to be hell-bent on driving out the experienced veterans. For example, the new tattoo policy that came out of no where. And now, the Sergeant Major of the Army released guidance on what boots the Army will allow, and I’ll be damned if I can tell what the hell Smadge is talking about.

The same shit happened after Desert Storm, too, believe it or not. My battalion sergeant major would co-opt our weekly “Sergeants’ Time” for sales pitches from USAA and the NCOA. Nothing gets a force ready for combat like a car insurance sales pitch. The lessons from Desert Storm should be that training wins wars – the war with Iraq was only 100 hours long because we’d been training for that war every day for more than ten years. Well, that and the fact that the politicians didn’t have gumption to follow through on our gains.

But, I don’t see this crowd running the Army today to have the courage to let their junior leaders make decisions on how to train and prepare their small units even though it makes sense as budgets and resources shrink in this administration’s rush to balance the budget on the back of readiness for the next conflict.

Thanks to Chief Tango for the link.

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korea95

one more reason to avoid being in the barracks at FT Hood back in 93, the old you need extra life insurance weekends.

Anonymous

Army in the ’90s… a really bad episode of Seinfeld that would never end.

BOILING MAD CPO

I am very surprised that more senior NCO and CPO’s have not entered into this discussion. It is ripe for comments from the field. I myself, as a very senior E5 made division (ships) decisions all the time which were backed up by my Chief. As a senior E6, it was expected of me if I was going to every make CPO (E7). I took career defining decisions knowing I would be backed up by my superiors. I should mentioned that by this time I had been on 3 Admiral staffs and was quite versed in office politics. This was all well and good until I was finally selected for Chief Yeoman. My LCDR second guessed me all the time and this went on for quite some time. I finally gave my staff of 20 YN/PN/HM special liberty and they were to be gone for at least the rest of the afternoon. If I was not there the next morning, they were to clean out my desk and locker and if possible, deliver it to my home. I did not exactly know which way my intentions would play out. I had the habit of coming out of the CO’s officer and walking off my mad by slamming every door in the passageway and the staff would take bets on how many I would slam. My record was 10). So what I did that afternoon, I slammed about 8 doors and than walked into that LCDR’s office, slammed his door and had it out with him. I offered him my collar pins and said one of us has to go. Luckily for me, he knew he was going to be passed over and would be forced to retire on 20, so he said he would go. Of course, this was after much shouting. After a long sigh of relief, I asked him why he was such a jerk and not letting me do my job. His simple answer was that when he was on staff, he was not allowed any breathing room and everyone was always looking over his shoulder. If… Read more »

vietnam war protestor aka uss liberty aka deport republicans not the children

let us all pray for the problems of PEACE!

You’ve finally said something most of us here do every evening. Saddly however only praying and whishing for peace will not make it so.

You sir, are the very reason that sheepdogs live, breathe and walk the face of this planet. Go eat a hot smokin bag of dicks…

Peace does not come without a price, you dipstick.

The military are the people who pay the price so that you can run your idiotic mouth in freedom. If you EVER decide to do something for someone besides run your mouth, please let us know.

Please go fuck yourself with a jackhammer you worthless POS.

I refuse to pray for your kind of peace. That would make us weak and leave us in chains. I’ll pray for the peace that comes from being so damned big and mean that no one in their right mind would dare fuck with us.

James in Gulf Breeze

BZ! +10000

Hondo

Agreed, ArmyATC. The “idiot commenting as vietnam war protestor” above is a perfect example of one of those wretched, stunted souls of whom John Adams spoke on 1 August 1776 in Philadelphia:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

Praying for the problems of peace brings the problems of war, dumbass…

Anonymous

P.S. Say, peacenik, you wouldn’t happen to be LTC(not-P) Bateman, would you?

Climb to Glory

I’ve been saying this for a while. They’re forcing out a lot of good combat veterans. The Army leadership(if you can call it that)is worthless. They’re more interested in social experiments than winning wars. Fuck them.

Hondo

This just seems apropos here:

“I’d like to have two armies: one for display with lovely guns, tanks, little soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals, and dear little regimental officers who would be deeply concerned over their General’s bowel movements or their Colonel’s piles, an army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country. The other would be the real one, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display, but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That’s the army in which I should like to fight.”

Jean Lartéguy

And for the fool posting as “vietnam war protestor”:

“Only the dead have seen the end of war.”

— attributed to Plato (questionable)

Roger in Republic

“composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display, but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught.”

And when they show up at your doorstep you know that you have just stepped in a very deep pile of shit.

Ex-PH2

Cicero?

I thought that was attributed to Scipip, Hondo. I guess it depends on where you find it.

Ex-PH2

That should be ‘Scipio’.

Isnala

I’ve always seen it credited to George Santayana. Who is also credited with coining ‘those who forget the past..’.

Hondo

Santayana may indeed be the origin – he does appear to have used it at least once in his writings.

However, both the UK’s Imperial War Museum (1936 or earlier) and MacArthur (1962) attributed the quote, apparently in error, to Plato. Others have also done the same – the quote opens the movie “Blackhawk Down”, and is there also attributed to Plato.

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/only-the-dead-have-seen-the-end-of-war-who-said-that/

Bottom line: the quote appears relatively likely to have been originated by Santayana, but is often apparently incorrectly attributed to Plato. It’s also possible Santayana did not originate it, and the original author is still undiscovered.

streetsweeper

Nice fire support, Hondo. On target! lmao!

Roger in Republic

The problem begins at the top. This is just a repeat of every Democratic administration since Truman. This administration is worse than a lot of others because it did not want to fight any of the current conflicts in the first place. This administration would just as soon zero the defense budget and disband the military. in their minds it would cost less to put the whole force on welfare and save the money needed to feed and arm it. They would just as soon scrap every piece of military hardware and send all the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen home. The worst thing that can happen to the military is peace time. Too many people fighting for for a good spot on the next promotion board. Not enough money for troop training or equipment replacement or even maintenance. In 1966 my first army unit was driving WWII trucks, and we often had more on deadline than were running. Our tactical tractors were lots older than we were. We were not a combat unit and thank god for that. Our company only had about 20 M-1 carbines and 8 .45 pistols. At monthly post reviews we were one of two units without arms, the other being a WAC detachment. If we went to a field station in RVN we would have to share rifles. In four years I went to the rifle range exactly once after boot camp to shoot the carbine and another to fire one mag out of a .45 so I could stand armed CQ duty. My agency grew to over six times its prewar manpower but we were always short of equipment. We had a bunch of staff sergeants that jumped in from the lifer army so they could get promoted but they had little or no technical training and had no clue what our jobs were. None that I remember has Signal or AIS experience. The next time we have a war our new soldiers have the same experience to look forward to. I left the army in 69′ and can’t speak to how bad… Read more »

Ex-PH2

RIR, have you been sneaking peeks at my stuff? Or reading my mind?

Redleg JO

the really scary part about all this is what it is going to do to our most junior leader. I am in particularly thinking of 2LTs. the entire point of being a 2LT is in many ways to screw up and learn from your mistakes (as long as they don’t kill someone). I was lucky in that my BTRY CO understood this and not only let me fail occasionally but gave me top cover to screw up. one of the most important lessons i learned involved navigating on BFT vs Map. keep in mind that this was my first convoy (leading the entire BN into the BN PAA), i had never done mounted land nav and i am really good with dismounted land nav so was really cocky, this LT was not going to get lost! well here i was navigating of my BFT and wouldn’t you know it but the BFT updates AFTER you cross a point unlike on a paper map and we missed our turn. well after 20 minutes of getting everyone turned around and extreme embarrassment and all kind of thoughts (1 month as a PL and i am about to get fired etc) we got to our PAA and my BTRY commander took me aside and asked me what i learned and that was that. i got called into the BN TOC during the BUB that night and told to explain what happened. well that was fun, but at the end the BN commander asked my BTRY CO why i was leading a convoy that important and my boss told him because i had to learn how to lead a convoy in a real environment and that was that. and you know what, that is a lesson i have never forgotten, i always navigate off a paper map in addition to the BFT now. the new army is getting so controlling i am not sure i will be allowed to allow my LTs the freedom to fail i had by my future BN commanders. and that is going to get people killed, training is the… Read more »

3C3P

David Barno was my BN CDR in 3/505. Hell of a CO. Much pressure was levied on SQDLDR’s and PSG’s to train and take care of Soldiers the right way. He had three nicknames for you: Ranger, Airborne and Skippy. Don’t be Skippy. 3/505 PIR had at least two company commanders/ 1SG’s that I can think of relieved and several PL’s/PSG’s/SQLDR’s. My favorite quote: “An Infantryman going to work without and EIB is like an executive going to work without a tie”. ATW! and 3P Sir.